Atlanta Hawks at Celtics: Can they do it without J.J. and Jamal?

BostonJamal is out with a sore back. J.J. is back in Atlanta.

Is there any chance the Hawks can go back home with a W?

Under the best circumstances, it would be difficult for the Hawks to do it; it will be dang tough while missing an All-Star and Sixth Man Award winner. Then again, somehow win this one and it really would mean redemption for that Nov. 22 surrender at Philips.

On Boston’s side, Rondo says he’s in despite a balky ankle. (Update: Celtics GM Danny Ainge says Rondo to miss “weeks” with injury.) Shaq says he’s out. Even if Shaq plays, L.D. said plans to send out the big lineup with Twin at center.

“I want to play Al at the four,” Drew said. “The rookie [Semih Erden] is real long. I like the matchup better moving Smoove to three and Marvin to two; it gives us an advantage on the offensive end. We will match up Smoove on Pierce [to] put a little length on him to see if that bothers him. We will try to do some thing offensively with Allen having to defend Marvin. See if we can create an advantage size-wise with that.”

Maybe the Celtics will be sapped after that hard-fought W at Madison Square Garden last night. Perhaps the Hawks will chapped by that ugly L at Detroit and motivated to save face against the C’s. Of course Boston beat down the Hawks on a back-to-back last time with energy ball Nate Robinson doing the damage early.

The Celtics did show some vulnerability last night. It was shocking to see the Knicks working the pick-and-roll so easily. Doc noted he couldn’t put KG or Big Baby on Amar’e too often because the power rotation is thin without Shaq, J. O’Neal and Perkins. Can the Hawks take advantage, too? Note that the Knicks only have two Ls since Nov. 16, to the Celtics and Hawks.

Granted, the Hawks don’t have Amar’e pogo sticking as their roll man but Al is deadly on the pick-and-pop and Smoove is a load when he gets the ball going to the rim. Together, they are like a composite Amar’e. Gallinari was a weapon for the Knicks–ESPN talker Jeff Van Gundy noted that the C’s couldn’t “short close” on him at the 3-point line because he’s so big he can shoot over them, and once they closed hard Gallinari went by them to the hole. Dare I say Smoove should try to do the same if he makes the first couple (inevitable) 3-pointers he launches?

The Knicks did enough to get some respect from the Celtics, who aren’t the types to give it easily:

“They test our defense,” Pierce said. “There are few teams in the NBA that test our defense. That’s one of them because they go small ball and they put four shooters on the court. Then when you got a big man who’s an elite scorer in this league, who can shoot from everywhere, they’re a tough guard.”

“I’ll say one thing about the Knicks, they’re confidence is obviously through the roof,” Garnett said. “Definitely a team to reckon with.”

Obviously L.D. watched Knicks-Celtics, too, and he noticed some things. He said the Hawks would run a lot of pick-and-rolls and also try to run with Teague and JC2 getting some burn looking to do both.

“They struggled with [the pick-and-roll],” L.D. said. “New York, they picked up the pace, too. In that fourth quarter a few times Boston scored and New York got the ball out, came right back down and scored. It’s that type of tempo we have had success [with] in the past playing at that pace. At the same time, you have got to be smart coming down and not jacking up that ill-advised shots, especially on the road.”

MC

782 comments Add your comment

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:06 pm

LOL Marvin is probably pissing his shorts having someone like Ray Allen guard him. He knows that all the pressure is on him now, but he will still be invisible tonight

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:07 pm

lol @ bibby outdoing anyone at anything

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:10 pm

jamal how do are u 6′5 180? son thats some durant shi

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:12 pm

Bibby is almost just as bad as Marvin.

Marvin has a good game 2 out of 10 times and plays okay defense. Bibby only makes shots (he can’t make jack against rough defenses). He CANNOT get past his man OR guard his man

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
8:12 pm

lol @ Charles Barkley

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:12 pm

already making fun of josh screw tnt

bigdave

December 16th, 2010
8:13 pm

what stat did they say about Josh..?

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm

ONly the white guy was hating on Josh….Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith believe

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm

3pt %. Why does TNT hate on us so much? TNT is right next to Philips Arena

LionHearted(FormerlySteel)

December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm

Come on the Hawks haven’t shown that they deserve respect.

Of course they’re gonna get clowned

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm

that he’s 9th and the league in 3 pt,
and ernie and charles were like, “i hope he dont start playin like he believe that stat”
and kenny was all his usual smart as self, “how can he not, its a stat”

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm

#9 3pt shooter in the league right now is Josh Smith @bigdave

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:15 pm

I think we play hard for 3.5 quarters and then commit turnovers. Moral victory?

J.J.M.

December 16th, 2010
8:15 pm

josh 9th in the lead in 3 pointers

J.J.M.

December 16th, 2010
8:16 pm

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:16 pm

We need to trade Bibby + Marvin for Monta Ellis and start Damien @ the 3

LionHearted(FormerlySteel)

December 16th, 2010
8:16 pm

I think they hate the Hawks becuz they think theres alotta wasted talent on the team and they don’t show heart. Which is true.

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm

marvin about to embarass

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm

MARVIN. yes

DO THAT EVERY TIME NO HOMO

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm

Marvin????? WTF scoring?

Melvin

December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm

Bigdave, where ya at?

It was not a bad pick

December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm

marvin great post up..wow!!!

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:18 pm

marvin reads this blog too prolly

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:18 pm

MARVIN. WHY CAN U NOT DO THIS EVERY DAMN GAME

ATTACK THE BASKET

LionHearted(FormerlySteel)

December 16th, 2010
8:18 pm

Oh so Marvin wants to play now lol

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
8:18 pm

Marvin Williams??????????? *in a high shrill voice*

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:19 pm

ATTACK THE BASKET AND PLAY UPTEMPO AND WE WIN THIS GAME

Najeh Davenpoop

December 16th, 2010
8:19 pm

I just turned on the game. How come the game started this late? Wasn’t it supposed to be an 8 PM start? Did they go to the studio show before the game or something?

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm

POST UP MARVIN

Najeh Davenpoop

December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm

The Celtics crowd sounds unusually quiet on the TV broadcast.

LionHearted(FormerlySteel)

December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm

Wat happened to the Motion Offense??????????????????

J.J.M.

December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm

lmao I wonder whats collins 40 speed

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm

Smoove’s post moves are horrible

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm

tnt games always start at 8:15

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:21 pm

extra time for charles to blabber and commercials

Najeh Davenpoop

December 16th, 2010
8:21 pm

“He’s the engine that stirs the drink”… where’s the Department of Unintended Irony when you need it?

J.J.M.

December 16th, 2010
8:21 pm

games never start at exactly 8

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:21 pm

Marvin needs to get position in the post. screw posting up smoove for now

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm

I was looking forward to Jeff Van Gundy rather than Steve Kerr and Al Michaels

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm

LionHearted(FormerlySteel)

December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm

So MArvin wants to play good now

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm

Marvin Williams??????????????

Najeh Davenpoop

December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm

I think it’s funny how the Celtics fans still boo Bibby for that obvious stunt he pulled during the 2008 first round series. Kinda reminds me of how Section 303 is going to run into Joe Johnson in like 25 years and boo him.

lewis

December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm

how was marvins shot a 2

J.J.M.

December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm

white man can jump

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm

No way. JVG Blows

You want Hubie and Fratello. These guys know the team damn well

Rev in Tampa

December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm

This game is over. Boston decided not to come to play. The Hawks will own them.

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm

ERden bout to make the All Star game off the Hawks

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm

When Pierce got that steal….instead of hustling back immediately…Josh Smith took a second or two with kind of “Awww Man!!!” frustrated body language.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm

When Pierce got that steal….instead of hustling back immediately…Josh Smith took a second or two with kind of “Awww Man!!!” frustrated body language.