Atlanta Hawks at Celtics: Can they do it without J.J. and Jamal?

BostonJamal is out with a sore back. J.J. is back in Atlanta.

Is there any chance the Hawks can go back home with a W?

Under the best circumstances, it would be difficult for the Hawks to do it; it will be dang tough while missing an All-Star and Sixth Man Award winner. Then again, somehow win this one and it really would mean redemption for that Nov. 22 surrender at Philips.

On Boston’s side, Rondo says he’s in despite a balky ankle. (Update: Celtics GM Danny Ainge says Rondo to miss “weeks” with injury.) Shaq says he’s out. Even if Shaq plays, L.D. said plans to send out the big lineup with Twin at center.

“I want to play Al at the four,” Drew said. “The rookie [Semih Erden] is real long. I like the matchup better moving Smoove to three and Marvin to two; it gives us an advantage on the offensive end. We will match up Smoove on Pierce [to] put a little length on him to see if that bothers him. We will try to do some thing offensively with Allen having to defend Marvin. See if we can create an advantage size-wise with that.”

Maybe the Celtics will be sapped after that hard-fought W at Madison Square Garden last night. Perhaps the Hawks will chapped by that ugly L at Detroit and motivated to save face against the C’s. Of course Boston beat down the Hawks on a back-to-back last time with energy ball Nate Robinson doing the damage early.

The Celtics did show some vulnerability last night. It was shocking to see the Knicks working the pick-and-roll so easily. Doc noted he couldn’t put KG or Big Baby on Amar’e too often because the power rotation is thin without Shaq, J. O’Neal and Perkins. Can the Hawks take advantage, too? Note that the Knicks only have two Ls since Nov. 16, to the Celtics and Hawks.

Granted, the Hawks don’t have Amar’e pogo sticking as their roll man but Al is deadly on the pick-and-pop and Smoove is a load when he gets the ball going to the rim. Together, they are like a composite Amar’e. Gallinari was a weapon for the Knicks–ESPN talker Jeff Van Gundy noted that the C’s couldn’t “short close” on him at the 3-point line because he’s so big he can shoot over them, and once they closed hard Gallinari went by them to the hole. Dare I say Smoove should try to do the same if he makes the first couple (inevitable) 3-pointers he launches?

The Knicks did enough to get some respect from the Celtics, who aren’t the types to give it easily:

“They test our defense,” Pierce said. “There are few teams in the NBA that test our defense. That’s one of them because they go small ball and they put four shooters on the court. Then when you got a big man who’s an elite scorer in this league, who can shoot from everywhere, they’re a tough guard.”

“I’ll say one thing about the Knicks, they’re confidence is obviously through the roof,” Garnett said. “Definitely a team to reckon with.”

Obviously L.D. watched Knicks-Celtics, too, and he noticed some things. He said the Hawks would run a lot of pick-and-rolls and also try to run with Teague and JC2 getting some burn looking to do both.

“They struggled with [the pick-and-roll],” L.D. said. “New York, they picked up the pace, too. In that fourth quarter a few times Boston scored and New York got the ball out, came right back down and scored. It’s that type of tempo we have had success [with] in the past playing at that pace. At the same time, you have got to be smart coming down and not jacking up that ill-advised shots, especially on the road.”

MC

782 comments Add your comment

Melvin

December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm

Where’s the foul. They were all over horford

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm

POST UP MARVIN ON RAY ALLEN

Najeh Davenpoop

December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm

I rarely EVER complain about the refs, but the Hawks have been playing 5 on 8 this entire half. This is about as blatantly biased as I’ve ever seen NBA officiating.

J.J.M.

December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm

Melvin

December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm

Put Teague back in the game…

LionHearted

December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm

we had our chance

Wabe

December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm

The Hawks are getting jobbed hardcore by the lack of a whistle.

And they’re getting frustrated and losing their composure.

YoDaddy

December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm

Erden going to the All Star game off us

Blast

December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm

Al was mugged, no call…….. enough said.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm

Those non-calls on Horford were a disgrace

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm

I guess Marvin is done for the night.

Run this lineup:
Teague Damien Mo Horford ZaZa

LionHearted

December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm

Najeh I told ya’ll Josh’s whining pissed off the refs lol

cp

December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm

And so it begins. hawks dont get some calls and they start playing sloppy

A COMMON MAN

December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm

Is Jamal that overweight kid that played on the old Cosby show?

Melvin

December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm

LD need to standup for his guys and get a Tech. The C’s are getting away with thugging on defense…

Rev in Tampa

December 16th, 2010
9:54 pm

The Hawks will be fine coming out of the timeout. THey are outplaying the Celtics tonight.

Blast

December 16th, 2010
9:54 pm

Told y’all the Hawks were gonna get jobbed by the refs.

Bailey

December 16th, 2010
9:54 pm

I don’t usually complain about the refs, but I have to say, the calls tonight have been very poor. Things are definitely not being called down the middle. Josh and Al are getting the short end of things every time they make aggressive moves. It’s disappointing, to say the least. Horford has yet to get a foul called in his favor and Josh has attacked the rim on several occassions and managed to only get one foul called by some miracle. On the opposite end, they are calling Horford for ticky-tac touch fouls.

ATL FAN

December 16th, 2010
9:54 pm

Wow, tonight just reminded me there is no team I hate more than the Celtics and their fans

ATL FAN

December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm

Marvin!!!!!!

LionHearted

December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm

At least we kept it close

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm

Nice shots Marvin

have the Celts missed in this qtr?

lewis

December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm

and thas twice they’ve called marvins 3’s twos

LionHearted

December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm

Anotha foul lol

Najeh Davenpoop

December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm

How the hell was that a foul on Collins?

Rev in Tampa

December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm

THat was no foul on collins

Astro Joe

December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm

Funny how the favorite whipping boys of this blog are keeping the Hawks in the game… while the beloved son is, well,…

northcyde

December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm

Collins with zeros across the board.

Get him out Drew.

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm

OMG is this team gonna miss?

ATL FAN

December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm

How the F*** WAS THAT A FOUL??

Wabe

December 16th, 2010
9:58 pm

I’m still tryin to figure out how the hell Ray Allen got a foul after getting his ish swatted by Collins…

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
9:58 pm

wtf

MAKE THE FREE THROW

I hope Josh gets called out after this game

Absolutely horrendous

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm

I think Collins pushed Allen outta bounds as he was off balance or s/t

Rev in Tampa

December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm

LOL at Wilkins assuming that the tie up was a foul on him becasue of the calls this game

lewis

December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm

sucks that LDREW is another emotionless coach like WOODY

no ref workage at all

Rev in Tampa

December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm

pierce walked and horford pushed on the rebound

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm

GET THE REBOUND WTF

We are always in AWFUL position after the shot

BOX OUT

Melvin

December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm

My goodness. KG clearly took Al legs from under him…

bigdave

December 16th, 2010
10:00 pm

i dont see one “untested” guy on the court for celtics.. get off their nuts…

Sautee

December 16th, 2010
10:00 pm

We need to win the rest of the qtr.

Wabe

December 16th, 2010
10:00 pm

Some of yall are getting too damn worked up…

The Hawks are down 8 @ Boston.

Boston’s the best team in the league.

We’re minus Joe and Jamal.

Josh has been on a tear prior to this game. He’s having a bad game, I get it. But, really, chill.

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
10:00 pm

LOL lewis.

Doc is always active

LD doesn’t seem to do much

Doesn’t really speak eloquently or clearly either

Najeh Davenpoop

December 16th, 2010
10:01 pm

KG would have to murder a nursery full of babies on live television for me to hate the Celtics more than the Heat.

Teabagger Johnson

December 16th, 2010
10:01 pm

Terribly one-sided officiating in this one . . .

Sautee

December 16th, 2010
10:02 pm

Teabagger Johnson

December 16th, 2010
10:02 pm

I hate the Celtics because of their dirty play. The Heat did nothing other than spend money better than we have . . .

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
10:02 pm

WHY DOES NO ONE BOX OUT

WE GET NO REBOUNDS

ATL FAN

December 16th, 2010
10:03 pm

Wabe

December 16th, 2010
10:03 pm

Marvin Williams actually stepped his game up tonight.

JeJe

December 16th, 2010
10:03 pm

Why does it take so damn long for this offense to get started? It’s 12 seconds on the clock every single time

Marvin playing well