Atlanta Hawks: Joe Johnson shoots Js

Just 10 days after he had surgery to remove a loose body from his shooting elbow, Hawks guard Joe Johnson was making jump shots today at Hawks practice.

Johnson took some midrange jump shots near the end of the team’s practice. He said the first 10 attempts felt awkward because it had been so long since he got shots up.

“For the most part if was pain-free,” he said. “But we are taking it one day at a time. I may have a little soreness tomorrow. We are trying to get it as strong as possible.”

Johnson and the team said his activity today is not an indication that he will return sooner than the minimum four weeks announced when he had the procedure on Dec. 2. But coach Larry Drew took it as a sign that Johnson at least might be on the short end of the four to six week timetable.

“Heck yeah,” he said. “It was good to see him out there. I don’t know what the timetable is as far as his comeback. But I am very encouraged that he is able to be out there just to shoot. We will see how it goes as he continues his therapy.”

Johnson has been durable during his career and is reluctant to sit out games due to injury. The team wasn’t even aware of the seriousness of the elbow injury until the pain became too much for Johnson to ignore and he sought medical treatment.

But Johnson said sitting out might end up being the best thing for both him and the team in the long run. The Hawks have won five of seven games without Johnson, whose uncharacteristic shooting woes were in stark contrast to the accuracy of the rest of Atlanta’s regulars.

“Things happen in mysterious ways,” Johnson said. “This could be a blessing in disguise. It can help me feel better or give me a break, and let the guys go out there and figure things out [without him]. Who knows? So far, so good.”

The Hawks have managed to win without Johnson but Drew said he looks forward to getting him back healthy and productive. Johnson has generally fit in with Drew’s philosophy of sharing the ball and spreading around the scoring (he leads the team in assists per game) so if he can improve his shooting accuracy while maintaining that approach Atlanta’s offense should be enhanced.

“He has missed a lot of good looks, shots that he normally makes,” Drew said. “We are just hoping the problem was the elbow and we can get the ‘old Joe’ back.”

Johnson’s return also would allow Drew to cease the lineup shuffling that’s included using Marvin Williams at shooting guard. Drew has used Johnson to defend point guards, shooting guards and small forwards, and the recent addition of Damien Wilkins as a defensive specialist should help ease the burden on Johnson.

Johnson was struggling and the Hawks have managed without him but he is the team’s top dog and their longtime mainstay.

“I do like the fact that we are less predictable [without Johnson] but I also know that with Joe in the lineup, he is a go-to guy,” Drew said. “I know in most cases he is going to command a double team. It is just a matter of making the right play out of the double team which he has shown the willingness to do. His presence [is important]. I know when he is out there, I can see the body language of our players they swell with confidence with his presence.”

Al Horford (hand), Mo Evans (knee) and Josh Powell (knee) missed portions of practice today. The Hawks said all are expected to play tomorrow at Detroit.


157 comments Add your comment


December 13th, 2010
4:14 pm

First?!? Good for Joe!


December 13th, 2010
4:14 pm

Actually, I was first but the blog moster ate my last tow posts -_-



December 13th, 2010
4:15 pm

On another not, GO Joe GO!!!!


December 13th, 2010
4:16 pm

More truth About the Hawks Elite status…

They continue to try and discount the Hawks, but the Road record and their stats tell the different…LOl.

These are probably the same fools that think 2PAC is still alive….unwilling to accept the truth.

This article is also for people on this BLOG who discount the HAWKS….GET A CLUE!!


December 13th, 2010
4:16 pm


December 13th, 2010
4:17 pm

Carmelo for Joe anyone?


December 13th, 2010
4:17 pm


December 13th, 2010
4:24 pm

““Things happen in mysterious ways,” Johnson said. “This could be a blessing in disguise. It can help me feel better or give me a break, and let the guys go out there and figure things out [without him]. Who knows? So far, so good.””

LOL @ “let the guys go out there and figure things out.”

Like he is not part of the problem with the team. He better have a better mentality than that when he returns and share the damn ball.

When JJ returns, start Collins and bench Marvin. Bringing Jamal, Damien, Teague, Powell, and ZaZa as your 2nd unit is damn potent


December 13th, 2010
4:26 pm

I hope Mo Evans’ injury will sideline him for the season..


December 13th, 2010
4:27 pm

This time that JJ has been down has been the most exciting period for the Hawks over the last year or two. Not necessarily the type of ball they are playing, but the unpredicatability of the line ups, the players stepping up, signing of Damien Wilkens and also shifting (hopefully not starting) Marvin around.

Joe being out has forced Drew to do all the things he said he wanted to before he got hired and how he has had the chance…..he has gone big, shifted starting line ups, played Al at the 4, and allowed Jamal to get more touches helping him out of his slump.

The obvious question now is what will these Hawks look like when Joe comes back. Go Hawks.

Miss ev

December 13th, 2010
4:29 pm

Good to hear that Joe is doing well.


December 13th, 2010
4:33 pm

When Joe returns…

Hawks will be top 2-3 teams in the East, beacuse JJ will make us better than the Heat.


December 13th, 2010
4:34 pm


Astro Joe

December 13th, 2010
4:36 pm

Good comments from Joe and LD. Thanks for the update, I was wondering when we would get our first update on Joe’s recovery. Like LD said, he messed a lot of open shots early in the season, hopefully Joe will make sure that he comes back when the elbow is ready. The Hawks have had a nice run without him but I agree with Sund and LD… this team is better with Joe (a healthy one).


December 13th, 2010
4:40 pm

Westurd, I think we all know what we will look like when Joe returns….that is the uneasiness we will have going forward.

Now, does it make sense to take a look at a big man at this time? DA on reporting:
Grizz willing to deal Thabeet……..and shopping him hard……the big man is owed 24.6M/3+years over the remainder of his deal….is there enough there to say he just needs a fresh start?

Alsandair Barnes

December 13th, 2010
4:41 pm

Trade Joe Johnson for Carmelo Anthony.We don’t need him & he quit on the team last year.Plus,the hawks are better without him.It was a mistake to sign him for that crazy deal anyways.Joe Johnson & Jamal Crawford for Carmelo Anthony & J.R Smith.


December 13th, 2010
5:02 pm

Get rid of Marvin…we should have grabbed TaShaun Prince when we had the chance……..Joe for Carmello..Mmmm interesting but, keep Jamal Crawford. His image is good for the team…Hawks have looked pretty good since the absence of Joe. Just think, a few defensive stops in San Antonio and we could have won that game….same thing when we were in Miami…Go Hawks….Marvin and Mo need to go….Hey that ryhmes….

Hip Hoppy

December 13th, 2010
5:03 pm

What about Joe start earning those millions that was GIVEN to him ?

Astro Joe

December 13th, 2010
5:05 pm

KevinM, if Thabeet can’t earn his $8M on an average (at best) Memphis team, how will he earn that contract on a team like the Hawks? While you “can’t teach size”, you also can’t have a guy who is physically incapable of maintaining rebounding position and struggles with making defensive rotations. The chance for thw Hawks to develop a center came when they had pick #31 (which would have been a $1M salaried player). I don’t see making that kind of gamble on someone making almost 2X as much as Zaza.

Maybe Portland can trade Oden for Thabeet.


December 13th, 2010
5:09 pm

Can we create a “fantasy blog” on another site? We can blog about trading for Carmelo and CP3……both will never happen and everyone knows it.

drmaryb (*_*)

December 13th, 2010
5:21 pm

Warrior Joe!

When Joe fractured his orbital bone in Phoenix, he didn’t miss a beat and balled in that play-off series with a face mask! That’s when he became relevant.
A fractured orbital bone is 911 Serious Injury. He payed against doctor’s orders I’m sure!

He is a tough guy and may return before 4 weeks. I sure hope so.


IDK how to pull Top PG Stats Current:
But, I found this list from HoopsWorld Fantasy Board from 10/13/2010:


With the Top 100 Overall ranking in the books and on the site, it’s time to begin breaking down the performers at each individual position. 

As always, these rankings are based on 9-category leagues (points, assists, rebounds, steals, blocks, three-pointers made, turnovers, FG%, and FT%). 

And please note that any player with point guard eligibility in Yahoo! Fantasy Leagues will be listed; which means that many players will be ranked at multiple positions, i.e. point guard as well as shooting guard, etc.

1 Chris Paul. 21 Brandon Jennings
2 Dwyane Wade. 22 Jrue Holliday
3 Deron Williams. 23 Jamal Crawford
4 Stephen Curry. 24 Tony Parker
5 Chauncey Billup. 25 Jason Terry
6 Jason Kid. 26 Rodney Stucke
7 Rajon Rondo. 27 Jameer Nelson
8 Steve Nash. 28 Andre Miller
9 Tyreke Evans. 29 D.J. Augustine
10 Monta Ellis. 30 Beno Udrih
11 Darren Collison. 31 Mike Conley
12 Derrick Rose. 32 Rodrigue Beaubois
13 Raymond Felton. 33 Jose Calderon
14 Russell Westbrook. 34 Luke Ridnour
15 Mo Williams. 35 Lou Williams
16 Devin Harris. 36 Jonny Flynn
17 Aaron Brooks. 37 George Hill
18 Baron Davis. 38 Ramon Sessions
19 Gilbert Arenas. 39 Jeff Teague
20. John Wall. 40. Kirk Hinrich

 wow! That was a ton of work on my blackberry … I’m not that smart w/techno!
I have no clue were to get LIVE stats, but I guess these are last season numbers. I’m sure the top guards have risen to the TOP! Like Rondo, Rose, CP3, Deron, Wall … Etc. But, I didn’t see Bibby in top 40.



December 13th, 2010
5:21 pm

Astro Joe, you know what? I take Thabeet/throw-in for Marvin/Zaza or Collins today!

Damien Wilkins has won me over enough in 15 days! We then have a potential big man who has 3 years left, 5.1/6.4/and the final year of 8.4M and we get him a Patrick Ewing and put them to work. Heck, give me Akeem/Clifford Ray and let’s see where that takes the big man.

Easily worth the swap today! Problem is, you gotta convince Memphis to take back one of the most inconsistent players in the league that has started the past few years.


December 13th, 2010
5:24 pm

And Astro, that puts Thabeet as the highest paid bench player we have going into 2011 should we not bring back JC1. I like the idea if Quik Rick can pull the wool over Chris Wallace’s eyes.


December 13th, 2010
5:30 pm

Wow..Nash at 8 while Kirk at 40!!!!


December 13th, 2010
5:31 pm

From previous blog


Dont act like it isnt possible to trade good for ‘garbage’ cause like the saying, ‘ones trash could be someones treasure” or something like that! LOL! We traded Jon Barry for TLue when TLue had gas still in the tank, and lets not forget Acie & Speedy for Jamal…It just depends what one team is looking for and what one team just dont need anymore!

I’m not going to give up on the idea of getting Nash on this team..HE IS A DOUBLE/DOUBLE PG FOR GOD’S SAKE!! How can he NOT help this team????? With his crafty style to score AND his willingness to pass the rock AND his ability to take over the game when NO ONE ESLE seem to know how (JJ), is exactly what we need on this team!! Come SUND, PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!!

drmaryb (*_*)

December 13th, 2010
5:35 pm


Talking ’bout Donald Sterling heckling Baron Davis courtside with obscenities!

LOL! Is Baron available? What’s his problem in clipper-Land?

drmaryb (*_*)

December 13th, 2010
5:41 pm

Ms. Dee

I heard Nash was 3rd or 5th recently. That list was pre-season.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 13th, 2010
5:45 pm

Nice to hear that Joe is getting healthy. I’m still waiting to see whether he will fit in to the offense when he returns or whether he is going to revert back to his iso form.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 13th, 2010
5:46 pm

Donald Sterling is a disgrace to the human race, and it’s sad that David Stern hasn’t forced him out of the league yet. Larry Ellison, one of the richest men in the world, tried and failed to buy the Warriors a year ago. If Stern cares at all about his league’s image (and surely he does, by instituting relatively pointless rules like making players wear suits during their postgame press conferences) he would seize the team from Sterling and try to sell it to Ellison.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 13th, 2010
5:48 pm

Listing players by fantasy stats doesn’t really prove much. When it comes to fantasy, Mike Conley has been a top 5 point guard this season.


December 13th, 2010
5:49 pm

DMB, sounds like Baron is stealing money….if he isn’t in shape, what excuse does he have?

Yet Del Negro tries to continue to try and find a way to motivate him….he already allows him to play only on one end of the floor…..that contract…man, just like Elton Brand.

SWAT Native

December 13th, 2010
5:52 pm

I agree with several others (including Joe) that Joe being out may be the best thing that has happened to the Hawks for a while because it is allowing the other players to step up without him. When Joe comes back healthy, I think the Hawks are a much tougher team than they were before.


December 13th, 2010
5:56 pm

LOL @ people wanting Baron.

Overweight, out of shape, injury prone, and has 3 years left of 13M a year. I’ll take Rashard Lewis first

drmaryb (*_*)

December 13th, 2010
5:57 pm



S Samuels, CLE



C Wilcox, DET



C Paul, NOR



A Ajinca, DAL



R Westbrook, OKC



D Nowitzki, DAL



L James, MIA



K Bryant, LAL



D Howard, ORL



A Horford, ATL



D Williams, UTH



K Love, MIN



M Ginobili, SAS



D Wade, MIA



S Nash, PHO



A Stoudemire, NYK



P Gasol, LAL



T Thomas, CHA



D Rose, CHI



K Martin, HOU



J Smith, ATL



K Durant, OKC



P Millsap, UTH



T Duncan, SAS



J Evans, UTH



K Garnett, BOS



N Hilario, DEN



D West, NOR



E Gordon, LAC



B Griffin, LAC



December 13th, 2010
5:58 pm

Once Joe returns, shop ZaZa+Mo around for the best possible backup C, and either start Collins, or start Damien at the 3 and bring Duck off the bench


December 13th, 2010
6:01 pm

” The chance for thw Hawks to develop a center came when they had pick #31…” Will someone please say that again.

Ken Strickland

December 13th, 2010
6:07 pm

I don’t understand this sudden to go all out to acquire a player like Thabeet. Even a team with money to spend, and the willing to spend it, wouldn’t be stupid enough to spend $8.4M a yr on a back project center that can’t earn more than 8.4MPG on a team like Memphis.

For those who are obsessed with wanting us to acquire CAnthony, why not get NBA LEAGUE PASS and follow him? Why, because it doesn’t take a high IQ to realize he’s not coming here. First, the Hawks can’t afford him without purging their roster, which isn’t going to happen, and secondly, he want’s to be close to his home state of NY. That alone eliminates the Hawks, and makes the Knicks and Nets his top choices.

PLEASE, GIVE THAT DELUSIONAL FANTASY A REST. Injuries will be the only way we’ll add anyone new this season. I don’t even see us trading Jamal Crawford this season.


December 13th, 2010
6:13 pm

What’s this garbage about Thabeet making 8M a year?

Dude makes 4.7M on his rookie contract. Some of you people just make ish up LOL


December 13th, 2010
6:33 pm

What’s the polite way to ask Joe Johnson to take another six weeks off?

I like how the team is playing without him. Let’s see how far they can take it.


December 13th, 2010
6:35 pm

Hope when JJ comes back. he’ll be playing much better than he has been.


December 13th, 2010
6:37 pm

If JJ had just rested all summer or just taken the first month of the season off, we’d have 3 or 4 more wins right now. Damnit


December 13th, 2010
6:37 pm

*If JJ had rested in summer, we’d have 4 wins more at least. If he had returned in December we’d have 2 more (MIA and SAS). This team is playing well


December 13th, 2010
6:39 pm

LOL @ drmaryb .. .. . I think Bibby was ranked #60 last year. I would bet this year though, that he is in the top 40, based off of how well he’s shooting the ball.

As for Thabeet. I live in TN and see the Griz on Sportsouth just as much as the Hawks ( due to the Griz now having priority over the Hawks on SS this year ).

Thabeet is garbage.

He’s not as good of a defensive player than Collins, despite he can get more blocks.

He doesn’t rebound.

He doesn’t hustle.

He shows no desire to be a better player.

Memphis could desperately use a quality big on their frontline. But Thabeet is so sorry, that they’d rather play Zach Randolph at C at times, than to throw Thabeet’s sorry self out there.

KevinM . . . he’s garbage.

As bad as the quality of our bench is at times, Thabeet wouldn’t even see the floor for us.


December 13th, 2010
6:39 pm

ps Do we really want to talk about how Johnson makes grown men “swell”?

I didn’t think so.

Steven A.

December 13th, 2010
6:43 pm

Smartest move Hawks could make would be to work out a deal for Hasheem Thabeet. Under good mentorship, he will be a solid defensive minded center.


December 13th, 2010
6:48 pm

LOL @ Steven A. I’ll take back Solomon Jones for the Vet Min before I pay Thabeet


December 13th, 2010
6:49 pm

It’s not like we have Olajuwon or Ewing as our bigs coach. We have TYRONE HILL


December 13th, 2010
6:58 pm

Jeje . . what games do we win, if JJ wasn’t in the lineup?

Just don’t throw comments out there. Which games do we win?


December 13th, 2010
6:58 pm


Do not pull a Mo Evans and come back before you’re ready. We don’t need you in pain for the rest of the season continuing to miss open jump shots.

Section 303

December 13th, 2010
7:01 pm

Whoever said that Thabeet would be a good pick up is crazy. The guy can’t play. Just face it. He’s not even a “project” at this point. He’s just a complete bust.

Forgive me if I could give two sh#ts that Joe Johnson is feeling better. He’s just stealing money from the organization at this point.