Hawks 97, Pacers 83
Greetings, all-
Hope you enjoyed the game, though it certainly didn’t look like a game anybody would enjoy at the start, particularly people who like to see baskets. Hawks started 1-for-12 and both teams were 11-for-41 in the first quarter. Yikes.
Notables for the game: Jeff Teague, who gave the Hawks a lot of energy after coming in with 3:26 to go in the first quarter; Al Horford, who had an off night shooting (7-for-2o) but compensated with an excellent night of defensive work on Roy Hibbert (3-for-14); Jamal Crawford, who was 7-for-16 from the field, 9-for-11 from the line and made way more offensive impact than his three assists would indicate.
Larry Drew: “I thought our bench did a great job in the second quarter. I thought Jeff Teague was the catalyst of that. His speed and his energy when he got into the game got us going.”
On Hawks’ scoring: “We got it off of movement. First of all with Hibbert, the one thing we wanted to do was keep him on the move, and we did that. We were able to get some really good looks.”
Drew put Horford back at center, replacing Jason Collins, to exploit the Hibbert matchup. Drew also said he could see Collins starting some when Joe Johnson comes back. Interesting possibility.
Josh Smith also came through with a couple three-point plays when the Pacers closed to seven. Drew: “I’ve got to stay on him about shot selection, but the thing with Josh, there’s some things you’ve got to live with and I’m willing to live with them when he’s giving me the energy and effort defensively and he’s still making great plays and great decisions on the offensive end.”
Josh Powell sprained his right knee, the same knee he sprained earlier. He hurt it colliding with Damien Wilkins defending a shot. Drew did not have an update on prognosis.
Odds and ends – Hawks have beaten Pacers eight straight. They’ve also won eight of their last 10 and are 16-9. Their record last year after 25 games was 19-6. Pacers took 28 3-pointers (making eight), which is the most taken by a Hawks opponent this season.
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JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:17 pm
Damien becomes guaranteed on January 15th or something. Sometime in January
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:18 pm
I will be pissed off as hell if we release Damien. Release any other player on our bench besides Damien. Just get rid of this Pape Sy guy or JoCraw if he isn’t going to do anything for us. ObviouSLY WE GOT Damien because LD doesn’t trust Jo-Craw. SEND HIM TO THE NBDL
Ramon
December 12th, 2010
10:26 pm
Jeje, its funny, LD is doing the same thing on the bench that Woody was doing. LD came with the promise to play more young players, but its not seeming that way in the games. Powell just replaced Joe Smith. And Collins is getting more minutes.
I always think the time to play young players is in the beginning of the 2nd quarter. In the beginning of the second quarter you can quickly see if they’re going to have a good night or not. If they’re not, they haven’t done enough damage to risk losing the game.
lewis
December 12th, 2010
10:28 pm
“Imagine a possible venue that the Hawks and Falcons share playing.” – That’d be the selling point. It’s a shame though because Phillips is quite nice I just don’t like the location nor the Thrashers. I’ll use my influence within the city to get it done. Plenty of corporate money in Atlanta. Why can’t we just get TNT to buy/invest? Think Braves/TBS. Hawks could be America’s team.
Hoops and Dreams
Jamillion
December 12th, 2010
10:28 pm
Hey tony why do you want us to get kirk for jj so bad. It doesn’t work and it doesn’t solve a need.
Ramon
December 12th, 2010
10:31 pm
Lewis, you could see so many nice restaurants being placed in a venue like that. And having traffic even on nights when games aren’t being played.
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:31 pm
Does anyone else feel like ZaZa cares more about his restaurant than basketball? Also, did that awards show ever happen involving him being Best Dressed in ATL?
LD uses the bench well at times (like last night), but when he does a good job rotating in early 2nd quarter, he just forgets about it in the 2nd half and ppl like teague get no burn
Jamillion
December 12th, 2010
10:33 pm
And the people who don’t want nash cause of age sound foolish.Like not wanting peyton manning cause taverous jackson has potential. Look at boston and san antonio. Those old dudes are playing well with youth and veteran leadership. Dr. Mary nene a actually be a upgrade he plays bynum is another potential player?
Ramon
December 12th, 2010
10:35 pm
Jeje, sorry, but if he cared more about his restaurant than basketball, would that be a terrible decision for him? In 10 years his business portfolio has a greater chance of being larger than his player portfolio. I can’t fault a player who make more moves for business than basketball. When you look at the owners, you have more owners who are in the league for what it can do business wise (not necessarily money but influence in respective cities) than they are in basketball. There aren’t many owners who are true fans of the game like Cuban is. There are a lot of owners who don’t even go to most games..
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:38 pm
Jamillion,
Nash has been playing as a POINT GUARD and is 37. There’s a difference between being an old PG and an old PF or SF. Plus, Nash is OLDER than those guys.
Ramon, I don’t give a damn what ZaZa’s intentions are. He signed a 4 year extension to be our backup center. Dude has been horrendous save for maybe 2 games. He had Kevin Love-like stats the first game of the year. He had like 19 and 17. WTF has he done since then? He has been atrocious. He cannot finish at the rim, and I can count on one hand the number of shots he’s blocked this season
lewis
December 12th, 2010
10:38 pm
I like Hinrich too. He could help the Hawks plenty.
I think he’d be a nice addition for closing out games.
High Bball IQ, doesn’t give up, defensive minded.
Leader.
Probably would complement JJ/Al better at the end of games looking to hit open 3’s and score in the motion rather than being another iso threat. Also would probably enable Teague to run the offense more.
But that’s about the last time i’ll think about that, cause it aint gonna happen.
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:40 pm
*17 & 11 in game 1
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:42 pm
I think Powell is putting up better numbers than Z this year LOL.
Too bad next year half our team will be new players on veteran minimum contracts because that’s all BASG can afford and how pathetic our GM is
lewis
December 12th, 2010
10:43 pm
zaza is terrible he has had over 90% of his shots blocked this season he is a disgrace
its official powell playing like garbage is more effective than Zaza playing average
tony
December 12th, 2010
10:44 pm
Hey Mz.Hawkdafied, I believe Nash will make the hawks a condender but we will have to give up too much to sign him. I’m quite sure we will lose JS or AH and a 1st rd pick to bring Nash to the ATL. That’s just too much to give up for a 36 yr old veteran in my opinion.
I would send JT and fan basher, unapologetic JJ to Washington for Kirk Hinrich(pg) and a 1st or 2nd rd pick. It’s not an attractive move but I believe it will bring stability to the team and from a business standpoint we now have money to spend.
1) Kirk Hinrich…….Mike Bibby
2) Damien W………Maurice Evans
3) Josh S…………..Marvin Williams
4) Al H………………Josh Powell
5) Jason C………….ZaZa
Ramon
December 12th, 2010
10:44 pm
Jeje, you can count on two hands the number of shots he’s blocked the last two seasons. Zaza is the same player he’s been the last two seasons, sorry! I’ve always wanted to trade Zaza even before this season. The Hawks have played a lot of young teams. And that means Zaza is normally going against younger, more athletic guys. I am convinced Sund gave Zaza his contract off of the Boston series when Zaza got in KG’s face. There’s no way in the world he should be making close to $5 mil a season. So from the standpoint Zaza is sorry and overrated, he should be looking at his next ventures after basketball. The restaurant hasn’t made Zaza play worse, lol. He was sorry in the beginning, lol.
Jamillion
December 12th, 2010
10:46 pm
Jarret jack collisson ain’t gone take this team no where. You need real players and nash a bring real vet leadership
northcyde
December 12th, 2010
10:47 pm
I’ve been wondering about the D-League question myself. It makes no sense to keep Jordan on the active roster, if he’s not going to play actual game minutes.
Yes, the argument can be made that he’s not going to face better competition than JJ and Jamal in practices. But he’s not getting that valuable game experience either.
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:48 pm
Ramon, that’s not true.
Z averaged like 13 & 7 one year and close to that the year before (early in his 1st contract). I mean, the guy is still young. He’s not out of shape – he’s healthy.
how is he so sorry?
Same goes for Mo (no offensive game at all except for random shots (every shot he takes looks like a prayer) and Marvin (BE CONSISTENT).
These are the 3 worst players in our rotation. Bibby, while horrendously lethargic, still seems consistent with his shot, despite his horrid defense.
Get rid of Mo, Marvin, and Z, and sign 3 HUNGRY veteran minimum players similar to Damien and then resign Jamal and we’ll be in a better position. Of course, you can’t just “get rid of them”
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:51 pm
*Kirk.
If i see a G*ddamn trade suggestion one more time for Kirk Hinrich (who is 6 freaking 3 feet tall. What position does he play?) I am leaving this site
northcyde
December 12th, 2010
10:52 pm
Enter your comments here
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:53 pm
WHERE DID MY POST GO?
LOL @ PEOPLE WANTING TO TRADE A 4 TIME ALL STAR FOR KIRK FREAKING HINRICH. WASHINGTON IS NOT TAKING ON A MAX CONTRACT WHEN THEY HAVE GILBERT ALREADY
JOE FOR KIRK HINRICH. LOL!!!!!! I’D RATHER SIGN TMAC TO A 5 YEAR DEAL THAN GET A WHITE 6″3 AVERAGE PLAYER.
WHY WAS MY POST EATEN UP
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:54 pm
U people can’t just pick players u want and offer !@#$ for them. Joe for Kirk Hinrich? have u even looked at the contractual discrepancies?
I’ll just keep watching everyday as people think we’ll trade Marvin, Mo and ZaZa for a star player
SMGDMFH
Ramon
December 12th, 2010
10:55 pm
Jeje, that was before Horford came to the Hawks. And Zaza was averaging 28.3 minutes a game. The most he’s averaged since Al came in the league is 6 ppg and 5 rpg. Zaza averaged 19 minutes a game that season. Zaza is only averaging 14 minutes per game the last 2 plus seasons. And even when Zaza averaged 12 and 7, he averaged over 2 turnovers a game as a back up center, to go with that. As I said, Zaza has always been sorry. He was a pleasant surprise because he was better than garbage, and he was serviceable. But he’s never really been a consistent impact player even on the second unit. I would trade Zaza for a player like Jeff Foster (when he was younger) in a second.
tony
December 12th, 2010
10:56 pm
Sorry Jamal Crawford. I forgot to include you in the lineup.
1) Kirk Hinrich……..Bibby
2) Damien…………..Jamal
3) Josh.S……………Marvin W
4) Al H………………Josh P
5) Jason C…………ZaZa P
northcyde
December 12th, 2010
10:57 pm
LOL . . Tony has lost it Man, we’re trying to construct a team that can make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. You act like we’re some rebuilding team that needs to shed a big contract, so that we can save money.
Trading JJ for those 2 players does NOT make us better, because both are no more than C+ type players at best.
If Kirk Hinrich was that damn good, the Wiz wouldn’t be one of the worst teams in the league and winless on the road.
Hyping up Kirk Hinrich is like hyping up Hakim Warrick as being some type of difference maker.
JeJe
December 12th, 2010
10:58 pm
Amen, Ramon.
Well at least in those big minutes, ZaZa put up something. Now in sparse minutes he’s just a bench scrub.
STOP WITH THE KIRK HINRICH BS TRADE OFFERS.
LOL
JOE JOHNSON FOR KIRK HINRICH.
CAN 2 OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD CONDONE THIS TRADE AS MAKING SENSE FOR BOTH TEAMS CUZ I SURE AS HELL CAN’T?
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tony
December 12th, 2010
11:01 pm
Joe Johson will play small forward for Washington. JeJe stop showing your prejudice young man.
northcyde
December 12th, 2010
11:06 pm
OK . . I’m getting a little clairity on why we don’t send people to the D-League. This is from the Collective Bargaining Agreement:
69. What is the NBA Developmental League (NBA D-League)?
The NBA Developmental League (NBA D-League) is a separate league run in affiliation with the NBA. Teams may assign up to two of their players to an NBA D-League team.
Only players with fewer than two years’ experience may be assigned to an NBA D-League team, and each player can be assigned no more than three times per season.
If an active player is assigned, he is automatically placed on the team’s Inactive List. There is no minimum or maximum length of an NBA D-League assignment, and players have 48 hours to report to the NBA D-League team once they are assigned.
Players continue to receive their NBA salary while assigned to the NBA D-League. NBA D-League rosters are normally 10 players, but can expand to 12 to accommodate assigned NBA players.
In some cases where one team might be overstocked with assignees or players at a particular position, players might be reassigned to a different team. NBA teams do not control the playing time their assignees receive — that matter is up to the discretion of the NBA D-League coaches.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 12th, 2010
11:08 pm
Ramon
From a sound business stand point, The Hawks purchase would be weighted down with the Thrashers as well as a 99 year lease on Phillips Arena.
If, I were Blank? I would not purchase that much dead weight along with all those guaranteed Player Contracts and No Fans in the stands. Have you seen how empty Phillips Arena is, unless LeBron or Kobe comes to town?
Besides, The Falcons are building a Dynasty right now and I wouldn’t t
Ake revenue away from such a gold mine. This is SCC country and Atlanta is a Football Town! Arthur did look at purchasing The Braves a few years back, but the numbers didn’t make sense there either. Baseball Contracts are also guaranteed.
Arthur is too smart and savvy to waste his money on a Prima – Donna Basketball Team! I wouldn’t do it either! The thing about Football is people on Food-Stamps can go to a game for $10.00 or get a job as an usher for minimum wage and see all the home games on the time clock!
Wishful thinking, but that will NEVER happen with Mr. Blank!
Try calling David McDavid! He won that 250M law suit from TNT, but even he has NO interest now, since the Financial Markets crashed his Car Dealerships out in Texas!
We are stuck with The Atlanta Spirit-Killer Group (ASKG)!
tony
December 12th, 2010
11:09 pm
The same people hating on Kirk Hinrich are the same people that were hating on Raymond Felton but look at the impact he’s having with the Knicks. Washington has John Wall as their starting pg so they no longer need Hinrich’s services we do.
lewis
December 12th, 2010
11:12 pm
I think we can expect
Against true centers,
Collins/Al/Josh/Joe/Jamal
Against PF/C’s,
Al/Josh/Joe/Jamal/Bibby
Mo and Etan currently are dead weight.
Before the knee thing Mo was okay, now he can’t really do anything.
Etan sits on the bench. He plays behind Al, Josh, Collins, Powell and Zaza.
We know what Jordan is about. He’s looked good every time he’s been on the court. explosive. Deserves pretty much any PT Mo is getting.
Not quite ready to call Teague a bust. He plays solid man-d, rebounds, and has shown ability to drive and dish / hit the floater in the lane. Deserves any PT Mo is getting as well.
Nothing to say about Etan he’s a practice player / locker room guy i guess. waste of money imo
Ramon
December 12th, 2010
11:12 pm
Drmary, you could’ve at least waited until tomorrow to end that dream, lol. Could’ve let me got a good night sleep with it. I know it would probably never happen. Just think he’s the perfect owner. I’d take Arthur Blank over Jerry Jones any day of the week. He’s passionate, and present, but not overbearing.
lewis
December 12th, 2010
11:20 pm
no one was really hating on felton we just couldn’t really pay him
northcyde
December 12th, 2010
11:26 pm
Now this is what the CBA says about active rosters and inactive players:
67. What roster size limits exist? What is the Inactive List? What is Injured Reserve?
A team must have 12 players on its active roster, although they can drop to 11 for up to two weeks at a time. They must suit up at least eight players for every game. Any remaining players must be on its Inactive List, and are ineligible to play in games.
A team must have a minimum of one and a maximum of three players on its Inactive List, although they can drop to zero for up to two weeks at a time, and can temporarily have four with league approval in the event of a hardship.
The composition of the Inactive List can change on a game-by-game basis — no less than 60 minutes prior to tipoff, the team must present to the official scorer a list of the players who will be active for that game. A player can be inactive for as little as one game.
While individual teams are only required to carry 13 players (12 active and one inactive), the NBA also guarantees a league- wide average of at least 14 players per team. The league is surcharged if they do not meet this obligation.
Injured Reserve is the previous name for the Inactive List. It was originally intended for players who were injured and unable to play, however teams often used it as a convenient place to stash extra players.
While a medical reason was required for players to be put on Injured Reserve, the league did not insist on an independent physician confirming the diagnosis. Thus it was common for a seemingly healthy player to suddenly develop “back spasms” right before rosters were cut to 12 players, and spend the entire season on Injured Reserve as a result.
With the current CBA they gave up the ghost, dropped the medical requirement, and changed ” injured” to “inactive.”
Players assigned to the NBA Developmental League are automatically put on the inactive list.
northcyde
December 12th, 2010
11:34 pm
Now currently we have 2 inactive players ( JJ ans Sy ), and 13 guys who are active. Because of that, I don’t think we could send Jordan to the D-League even if we wanted to.
At least not until JJ gets back . . or we decide that Damien is a keeper, and guarantee his contract for the rest of the year.
Also, the fact that Sund and the ASG ( if they had their preference ), would only keep 13 or 14 players in the first place, would prevent us from sending a guy to the D-League.
Right now, either Etan or Jordan is the 13th active guy, and one of them doesn’t dress out with the other 12 on game nights.
So let’s see if when JJ gets back that the keep Damien. If they do, then there’s no reason why Jordan shouldn’t be sent to the D-League.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 12th, 2010
11:47 pm
Ramon
I know baby! I wish we had Blank too? But, you never know what Santa Claus might bring us? Nothing is impossible – So, keep dreaming! You Never know?
drmaryb (*_*)
December 12th, 2010
11:50 pm
“JeJe
*Kirk.
December 12th, 2010
10:51 pm
If i see a G*ddamn trade suggestion one more time for Kirk Hinrich (who is 6 freaking 3 feet tall. What position does he play?) I am leaving this site”
___________________________________________
We should BE so LUCKY – IF you would just leave this SITE!
Any time a waste of human tissue could use GOD’s name in a “cursing – tirade”, like that? The whole world would be better off IF you would just go away, crawl into some woods and die!
Put some LAXITIVE in your mouth and STHU!
You are unbearable to tolerate and have absolutely NOTHING of value to say!
A piece of FUNGUS is what your mouth is! Do you have a job? If so when do you stop vomiting to go to work?
If you can Amen? And, disrespect GOD the way you do? Remember GOD has a judgment day planned for us all! I just hope, you are standing NOWHERE in my vicinity, on THAT day!
Good Nite to all the relevant bloggers! I can’t listen to the MOUTH any more tonight!
Don’t even bother to respond to me! I will NEVER read the JeJe vomit moving forward!
(*_*)
Najeh Davenpoop
December 13th, 2010
12:14 am
“The thing about Football is people on Food-Stamps can go to a game for $10.00 or get a job as an usher for minimum wage and see all the home games on the time clock!”
Wait, what? What football game costs $10 to get in?
I have gone to many Hawks games for $15 before, but the least I have ever paid to go to a Falcons game is $50 (which is why I have only been to three of them).
Najeh Davenpoop
December 13th, 2010
12:14 am
Unless you are talking about college football games… I have no idea what the prices are like for those.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 13th, 2010
12:24 am
$10 LOL!
Hey Najeh, I went back to when Blank was in year One. The Falcons were so bad, he had a $10 section. I know I was stretching that fact … Ha Ha … Because the 2nd year he slightly increased the prices to like $150 for the season.
Each year, Blank has increased those prices. But, a few of my classmates in med-school were working there as on field security in the bright yellow vinyl capes. I know The Braves got $10 and $1 (standing room only) tickets though.
But, you’re right Football is not cheap!
You got me blowing gas there. LOL!
drmaryb (*_*)
December 13th, 2010
12:35 am
Patience!
I think some bloggers are jumping the gun on Teague and Jordan’s playing time!
We got a rookie HC, we’ve only played 20 some odd games. Let Coach mix the
cake batter, before he puts it in the oven and put the icing on it!
I have no problem, with Coach trying to figure out the rotations early on!
We were on a losing streak, JJ was hurt and not telling anyone, Marvin and Maurice went down and we needed to find out who Josh Powell is on our team.
Plus, Collins needed some PT as well!
Teague was smelling up the joint and now is not the time to experiment with a rookie in JC2! We are not so desperate that he needs to play right now.
We already got Josh, taking questionable shot selections, even though they are going in? He still need to cut back on when he takes them, when a pass would be more beneficial for a post player who can get that And-1.
There is too much going on right now to be focused on JC2. He ain’t going nowhere? We may use him later on, when we find his game and minutes. Jordan, has too much talent to be in a D-League risking serious injury for nothing.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 13th, 2010
12:35 am
Oh haha OK… this is why I always laugh when people talk about how expensive Hawks tickets are, when they are pennies compared to what people pay to sell out the Dome.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 13th, 2010
1:19 am
Patience, cont’d!
Also, we are installing a brand new offense and defense!
Shouldn’t the regular rotation gel into that and own it, before we start playing project players?
Are we the microwave generation or what?
Do we scream at the microwave after one minute has passed?
drmaryb (*_*)
December 13th, 2010
1:37 am
A Known Fact!
It is a known fact, that if your starter has two fouls in 7 minutes? You sit his butt down! That’s why you have subs! Besides, why let a 2 foul player get a frustration 3rd foul in the 1st and most irrelevant quarter, before the refs settle down too?
You need to know your starters can play fearless in the 3rd and 4th decisive quarters. If you can keep a NBA Game close, you can win it in the 4th!
Dwight sits with a 100% frequency with two fouls in his 1st quarters too.
Do the complaining blogger really believe that is not a strategy to win the game not the small battles?
Coach Drew didn’t invent this strategy 22 games ago – This is a known fact!
I know it’s hard for the microwave fans to be patient.
But, Patience is a Virtue – nonetheless.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 13th, 2010
4:57 am
Ask Doc!
Ask Doc Rivers why Boston traded for Nate Robinson (a proven NBA scorer and 2X Slam Dunk Champion), last year at the trade deadline, then nailed his butt to the Celtics bench for 38 straight games?
He told Antsy-Pantsy hyper-active Nate to sit, watch and learn Boston TEAM Basketball and to be ready for the play-offs! He told Nate, “You will WIN a game for us in the play-offs!”.
What happened? “Shrek & Donkey” was born!
Nate did NOT complain about PT – Nor is Jordan Crawford!
You Are! (That would be all the whiners on this blog!)
drmaryb (*_*)
December 13th, 2010
7:03 am
One more thing and I’m done with this topic:
Doc didn’t spoon feed Nate strained peas and carrots, nor did Doc wipe his little chin and burp him either, no time for all that. They were getting KG ready and jockeying for a play-off seeding with our Hawks. The best thing was for Nate not to be disruptive to the TEAM and LEARN where he fit in –
FROM DA’ BENCH! Everyone already knew he could score, that team didn’t need him to score like a reckless maniac. That’s what he did in NY and never passed the ball, he had to learn how to do things – Doc’s Way!
That’s what Jordan has to do as well!
OK! I’m done here, was up all night traveling in the car, just got back
from a funeral in NYC! See my buddies after a Hawks Win Tuesday night!
Happy Holidays Everyone!
drmaryb (*_*)
December 13th, 2010
8:18 am
Proof Pudding!
Ken Sigura interviewed Jamal and reported this excerpt:
“At the start of the season, Crawford had trouble adjusting to Drew’s motion offense, which is considerably different than the isolation-heavy scheme run by coach Mike Woodson last season. He talked to Drew and general manager Rick Sund, among others, to try to figure things out.
“We had to revamp the whole offense, but you still have to be who you are on the court,” Crawford said. “Don’t think so much, just react and play.”
I think Joe, with injury aside, was having the same adjustment issues as Jamal, because they were both featured in ISO-PLAYS heavily last season.
So, if Jamal, The SMOY and 11 year veteran was struggling?
Can Coach really throw another pupil in the fire in Jordan Crawford right now?
OK! I’m home, gotta’ go to work now. I’m really done now.
-smiles-
JeJe
December 13th, 2010
9:23 am
drmaryb you’re a joke.
You don’t belong speaking my name in the same sentence as yours. You just use exclamation marks and are the AJC Hawks Blog Cheerleader.
bite me
Fundamentals
December 13th, 2010
10:20 am
THANKS Northcyde. Excellent info.
I’m on board that Jordan, Teague and Damien should take Mo’s minutes. I’ve been very pleased to see Powell and Collins used over ZaZa. They’ve both played well and deserve it.
To me it seems Mo can play SG, but becomes too foul prone when he’s at SF. He’s a player that needs consistent run to stay sharp. We don’t give that to him. It’s not that I dislike Mo or ZaZa, they just need consistent minutes that we don’t have. They’re better served on a team that really needs a SG and center to play extended minutes. Things are too tight, too competitive each night here to allow them those minutes. Both sides deserve better.