Atlanta Hawks: Spurs 108, Hawks 92

San Antonio–Tight game, tough opponent, and the Hawks had to make a few food plays to earn a big road W. You know how this one ends.

– “It’s frustrating,” L.D. said. “That’s kind of been our case. We were the same way in Miami, going down the stretch in the fourth quarter and we had an opportunity. Tonight we had an opportunity as well. We just didn’t get the job done.”

– The Hawks played without J.J. and Zaza and they could have used both guys. Then Smoove was limited to 13 minutes after halftime and Richard Jefferson suddenly was shaking free for open 3s.

– But consider that the Spurs turned back the Hawks with Tim Duncan playing zero minutes in the fourth quarter and Manu Ginobili sitting the final nine minutes. “I just thought the team that was on the court was doing the job, so Manu and Timmy stayed in the bench,” Gregg Popovich said. “Sometimes there’s a certain flow going on in a game and a group is doing well, so there’s no reason to change it.”

– He makes it sound so simple, doesn’t he? Must be nice to have a deep, veteran, disciplined club that can close out Ws with its two main guys watching from the bench. “They’ve been together for a long time so they know what it takes to win down the stretch,” Josh said. “They’ve been in so many close games together. It’s kind of unfair to play against a team like that.”

– The Hawks played well enough for three quarters, took a 73-71 lead on Mo’s layup and then came unraveled.

– After committing eight turnovers through three quarters, the Spurs cranked up their intensity, got in the passing lines and the Hawks had seven miscues in the fourth. The Hawks held the Spurs to 18 points in the third quarter, with Twin doing a pretty good job of making Duncan shoot over him, then gave up 37 points with role players Jefferson, DeJuan Blair and George Hill leading the way.

– And, oh yeah, Tony Parker ran the show. “It took until the fourth quarter to finally get a flow and get a rhythm,” Popovich said. “Tony was a big part of that.”

Al had some costly turnovers. One led to a Hill free throw with the Hawks down 80-75 (and also gave Al his fourth foul). Blair took it from him with the Hawks down 94-86, leading to a Jefferson 3. Al also was responsible for a shot-clock violation with the Hawks trailing 65-64 in the third.

– “We put ourselves in a good position to win the game,” Al said. “It’s just the fact that I was being a little careless with the ball. I felt like we controlled the tempo of the game and we were right there. It’s just those few turnovers that really just changed the game completely. You can’t do that on the road.”

– San Antonio’s steals and 3-pointers energized what had been a relatively docile home crowd until the fourth quarter. “”You can play a little bit looser at home because you have the crowd to get behind you,” L.D. said. “But when you are on the road you have got to keep the crowd out of the game. You turn the basketball over, take ill-advised shots, the crowd gets back into it and you lose the momentum.”

– Josh left with 3:40 to go in the third quarter, soon after he had a tremendous block of Duncan’s fastbreak dunk attempt, and didnt’ return until 8:24 of the fourth. He said he tweaked his hamstring on the play but expects to play Saturday vs. the Pacers. “I just didn’t want to be out there hurting my teammates, so I had to come out,” he said.

– Smoove said he could have helped shut down the corner 3-pointers that Jefferson and Hill buried. “A couple of blown coverages when I went out of the game,” he said. “It’s always frustrating when you know you can help your team but I just wasn’t able to shake off those cramps.”

– With Zaza out, Josh Powell was forced to play some center. “We have enough big bodies, and with J.P. playing some five it allows me to play a guy who can stretch the defense a little bit with the pick-and-pop,” Drew said.

– Tough night for Bibby, who missed his first five jump shots and never found a flow. He tried going to the basket but just doesn’t have the lift to score among all those bodies.

– Marvin had moments where he looked explosive and other times where he seemed to struggle to walk. He played 42 productive minutes. “I’m OK,” he said. “I’m not complaining.”

Jamal’s shotmaking kept the Hawks close in the first half. He had five assists against two turnovers and even got a couple of blocked shots.

Damien Wilkins gave the Hawks 10 pretty good minutes. One thing I’ve noticed is he attacks the offensive glass even if he doesn’t always get his hands on the ball.

– The Hawks wanted to limit Parker on the pick-and-rolls and slow San Antonio’s transition scoring. They did well with the latter, not so much the former.

– The Hawks dropped to 2-6 against teams with winning records and 4-2 without J.J. With Chicago beating the Lakers and Miami on its way to victory at Golden State, the Hawks will fall to a tie for fifth with the Knicks in the East.

– “We had a chance to win the game,” Al said. “It just shows we still have a little ways to go as a team. I think we played good, we played hard, but they are a really good team over there.”

– “We were right there,” Marvin said. “I don’t believe in moral victories, personally, but it’s a good feeling to know you are playing at a high level against the best team in the league.”

MC

199 comments Add your comment

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
9:03 pm

That’s not a travel anymore Nique. The NBA admitted that they give people 3 steps, especially on a hop step.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 11th, 2010
9:03 pm

Also, props to Cam. Nice to see another ATLien doing big things, and nice to see more NCAA hypocrisy get exposed.

Rev in Tampa

December 11th, 2010
9:05 pm

I’m doing the church progressive dinner tonight so I haven’t seen the game. How is it that Teague has outrebounded Josh?

rusty

December 11th, 2010
9:07 pm

Why In the world did ld have mo play so much in the third quarter & jc1 so little. Will jc2 ever get in or did ld leave him on the plane or bus or maybe back at the hotel

ATL FAN

December 11th, 2010
9:07 pm

Wow, you hate to see that happen to Powell after having a game like this

Melvin

December 11th, 2010
9:09 pm

Why did LD take Teague out of the game

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
9:09 pm

Horford quietly having a horrible game . . 6 – 19 FG . . . stop shooting jumpers Al. It’s not there tonight.

Blast

December 11th, 2010
9:10 pm

This game is too close for comfort. Al needs to shoot when he gets an ounce of daylight.

Jamal!!!!

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
9:12 pm

When JJ returns, ship Evans away. Keep Damien.

Get rid of useless players like ZaZa, Mo, and Marvin. Marvin will go back into his shell soon. He had his 2 good games

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
9:12 pm

We’ve had complete control of this game, but only up 9. Than you Indiana, for taking more jumpers than us.

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
9:13 pm

Bibby with 3 pts, 2 rebounds, and no defense in 20 minutes. LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

December 11th, 2010
9:14 pm

“Horford quietly having a horrible game . . 6 – 19 FG . . . stop shooting jumpers Al. It’s not there tonight.”

Horrible shooting game, but as Bob Rathbun just pointed out, he’s not too far away from a triple double.

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
9:16 pm

OMG . . no foul?

Najeh Davenpoop

December 11th, 2010
9:16 pm

Big sequence there, converting the Dunleavy turnover into an and-1 on the other end.

bigdave

December 11th, 2010
9:17 pm

bigdave

December 11th, 2010
9:18 pm

Josh coming up big..

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
9:19 pm

Captain Smith stepping up when needed.

All we need is a Bibby 3 to put the game on ice.

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
9:19 pm

Jamillion, in the cases of Duncan, Pierce, and Rondo, each of the teams were coming off of losing seasons, not playoff seasons. Also Rondo, Pierce, and Walker each played for lottery teams their rookie season. In the case of Kobe, Kobe didn’t have Phil Jackson as a coach his rookie season. And Kobe only played 15 minutes a game, and most of those minutes came after the all star break when he won the dunk contest.

Melvin

December 11th, 2010
9:20 pm

Yeah, Josh…

terrell

December 11th, 2010
9:20 pm

With Josh at the 3, Al at the 4, and JJ at the 2, we’re a pg and a center away from being ELITE. Really impressed with Josh’s shot. Hopefully Teague will take notice and go to work this summer.

bigdave

December 11th, 2010
9:21 pm

what a bs call

bigdave

December 11th, 2010
9:22 pm

Granger is a biiiiiiiatttch.

bigdave

December 11th, 2010
9:23 pm

Josh looking more and more like a 3 that can play 4 everyday..

bigdave

December 11th, 2010
9:24 pm

dont know how u improve your perimeter d.. but thats what needs more work before you can plant him @ SF..

guess thats why LD wants him to loose the extra lbs..

bigdave

December 11th, 2010
9:26 pm

i thought Al was playing for the triple double..

Najeh Davenpoop

December 11th, 2010
9:27 pm

The Hawks got all of five points from their starting back court and still won decisively.

Sautee

December 11th, 2010
9:28 pm

Congrats to LD for recognizing Damien’s contribution.

bigdave

December 11th, 2010
9:29 pm

37% is more like it..

consistently allowing those high shooting totals was becoming a concern..

Sautee

December 11th, 2010
9:32 pm

Horford’s shooting % came back down to earth tonight. I agree with northcyde. He should recognize when he doesn’t have it going and pump fake and get to the line.

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
9:33 pm

Good comfortable win by the squad tonight. Not the smoothesr offensive game in the world, but they got it done defensively.

People talk about the offense, but it’s the defense that’s actually improving lately, and the reason why we’re starting to win games a little more comfortably.

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
9:34 pm

LD told Smoove to lose weight?

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
9:36 pm

I really think this team tries much harder with Joe out.

We may not be loaded with offense, but these guys compete every play (even Smoove it seemed tonight).
Anyone else see this?

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
9:36 pm

NO I’M NOT SAYING WE’RE BETTER WITHOUT HIM. I SAID WE SHOW MORE EFFORT

Sautee

December 11th, 2010
9:36 pm

LOL at ‘Nique: “They flustrated Granger”

Sautee

December 11th, 2010
9:40 pm

Hey Jeje,

You wanted more rebounding from Horford? (so do I)

But his last 5 games he’s averaging 10.8 / gm.

Up that a tick and I’ll be happy. He’s certainly capable of 10+ per game and 11 would thrill me (and LD).

Najeh Davenpoop

December 11th, 2010
9:43 pm

I don’t know if they “try harder”, but they definitely share the ball more efficiently without Joe. The rest of the Hawks pass the ball quickly if there’s nothing there more often than not, which Joe doesn’t really do.

Sautee

December 11th, 2010
9:43 pm

LD:

“Teague’s speed was a catalyst to get us going”

THAT’s what we need to hear. Keep it up, Jeff.

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
9:43 pm

Sautee,

Horf’s reboudning is good. Always room for improvement

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
9:45 pm

Teague said at halftime he just wants to show LD he is capable of playing.

Sounds like he and LD are on shaky terms and Teague really needs to capitalize maybe?

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
9:49 pm

It feels like the whole personality of the BENCH/team has changed since Damien was signed.

Defense is outstanding most of the time. Holding MIA to 89, Orlando to whatever we held them to.

Go Damien!!!!!

oldtimer

December 11th, 2010
10:08 pm

Good game by Teague and Damien. Why is Teague not getting more minutes? He was clearly more effective than Bibby, but in second half coach stayed with Bobby too long, took Teague out too early, and then as Bibby was struggling did not come back with Teague.

Teague was playing under control and attacking, that is what Hawks need.
Damien is just superb. There is no reason Mo should be starting when Damien is available.

Rev in Tampa

December 11th, 2010
10:29 pm

I read a comment earlier that made it sound like Powell got hurt. Did he?

Does this win qualify as a win over a quality opponent or just another W against scrubs?

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
10:44 pm

Rev, Powell did get hurt.

Also, this is a quality win. They had a winning record and the Hawks were on a second night of a back to back after flying from Texas

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
10:44 pm

Rev, remember Indiana just beat LAL last week.

Rev in Tampa

December 11th, 2010
10:48 pm

Ramon, thanks for the update.

O'Brien

December 11th, 2010
11:01 pm

Great win for the Hawks w/o JJ, and on the second of a back to back. Indianna also beat Miami in Miami.

It looks like Marvin, Damien and Mo did a good job defensively on Granger.

As for the team, you guys raise a good question. When JJ comes back, he is going to get his 36 minutes. So who will lose minutes?

I think Mo and Teague will see their minutes cut even more.

Ken Strickland

December 11th, 2010
11:05 pm

All of the teams on winning streaks are feasting on teams with losing records. Why are certain individuals, posing as Hawk fans, discounting the Hawks whenever we defeat a team we’re suppose to defeat? Why haven’t we seen a single comment from our resident MWilliam bashers over the last 2 gms. I guess this is their delusional idea of giving him credit for playing well.

I certainly hope JPowell’s injury isn’t serious. If JaCrawford continues to perform at this rate, there could definitely be a sign and trade in his future.

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
11:50 pm

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
11:53 pm