Atlanta Hawks: Spurs 108, Hawks 92

San Antonio–Tight game, tough opponent, and the Hawks had to make a few food plays to earn a big road W. You know how this one ends.

– “It’s frustrating,” L.D. said. “That’s kind of been our case. We were the same way in Miami, going down the stretch in the fourth quarter and we had an opportunity. Tonight we had an opportunity as well. We just didn’t get the job done.”

– The Hawks played without J.J. and Zaza and they could have used both guys. Then Smoove was limited to 13 minutes after halftime and Richard Jefferson suddenly was shaking free for open 3s.

– But consider that the Spurs turned back the Hawks with Tim Duncan playing zero minutes in the fourth quarter and Manu Ginobili sitting the final nine minutes. “I just thought the team that was on the court was doing the job, so Manu and Timmy stayed in the bench,” Gregg Popovich said. “Sometimes there’s a certain flow going on in a game and a group is doing well, so there’s no reason to change it.”

– He makes it sound so simple, doesn’t he? Must be nice to have a deep, veteran, disciplined club that can close out Ws with its two main guys watching from the bench. “They’ve been together for a long time so they know what it takes to win down the stretch,” Josh said. “They’ve been in so many close games together. It’s kind of unfair to play against a team like that.”

– The Hawks played well enough for three quarters, took a 73-71 lead on Mo’s layup and then came unraveled.

– After committing eight turnovers through three quarters, the Spurs cranked up their intensity, got in the passing lines and the Hawks had seven miscues in the fourth. The Hawks held the Spurs to 18 points in the third quarter, with Twin doing a pretty good job of making Duncan shoot over him, then gave up 37 points with role players Jefferson, DeJuan Blair and George Hill leading the way.

– And, oh yeah, Tony Parker ran the show. “It took until the fourth quarter to finally get a flow and get a rhythm,” Popovich said. “Tony was a big part of that.”

Al had some costly turnovers. One led to a Hill free throw with the Hawks down 80-75 (and also gave Al his fourth foul). Blair took it from him with the Hawks down 94-86, leading to a Jefferson 3. Al also was responsible for a shot-clock violation with the Hawks trailing 65-64 in the third.

– “We put ourselves in a good position to win the game,” Al said. “It’s just the fact that I was being a little careless with the ball. I felt like we controlled the tempo of the game and we were right there. It’s just those few turnovers that really just changed the game completely. You can’t do that on the road.”

– San Antonio’s steals and 3-pointers energized what had been a relatively docile home crowd until the fourth quarter. “”You can play a little bit looser at home because you have the crowd to get behind you,” L.D. said. “But when you are on the road you have got to keep the crowd out of the game. You turn the basketball over, take ill-advised shots, the crowd gets back into it and you lose the momentum.”

– Josh left with 3:40 to go in the third quarter, soon after he had a tremendous block of Duncan’s fastbreak dunk attempt, and didnt’ return until 8:24 of the fourth. He said he tweaked his hamstring on the play but expects to play Saturday vs. the Pacers. “I just didn’t want to be out there hurting my teammates, so I had to come out,” he said.

– Smoove said he could have helped shut down the corner 3-pointers that Jefferson and Hill buried. “A couple of blown coverages when I went out of the game,” he said. “It’s always frustrating when you know you can help your team but I just wasn’t able to shake off those cramps.”

– With Zaza out, Josh Powell was forced to play some center. “We have enough big bodies, and with J.P. playing some five it allows me to play a guy who can stretch the defense a little bit with the pick-and-pop,” Drew said.

– Tough night for Bibby, who missed his first five jump shots and never found a flow. He tried going to the basket but just doesn’t have the lift to score among all those bodies.

– Marvin had moments where he looked explosive and other times where he seemed to struggle to walk. He played 42 productive minutes. “I’m OK,” he said. “I’m not complaining.”

Jamal’s shotmaking kept the Hawks close in the first half. He had five assists against two turnovers and even got a couple of blocked shots.

Damien Wilkins gave the Hawks 10 pretty good minutes. One thing I’ve noticed is he attacks the offensive glass even if he doesn’t always get his hands on the ball.

– The Hawks wanted to limit Parker on the pick-and-rolls and slow San Antonio’s transition scoring. They did well with the latter, not so much the former.

– The Hawks dropped to 2-6 against teams with winning records and 4-2 without J.J. With Chicago beating the Lakers and Miami on its way to victory at Golden State, the Hawks will fall to a tie for fifth with the Knicks in the East.

– “We had a chance to win the game,” Al said. “It just shows we still have a little ways to go as a team. I think we played good, we played hard, but they are a really good team over there.”

– “We were right there,” Marvin said. “I don’t believe in moral victories, personally, but it’s a good feeling to know you are playing at a high level against the best team in the league.”

MC

199 comments Add your comment

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
12:58 am

JeJe

December 11th, 2010
1:00 am

“We were right there,” Marvin said. “I don’t believe in moral victories, personally, but it’s a good feeling to know you are playing at a high level against the best team in the league.”

LOL! What did this idiot say the last 5 years?

Any team can compete against any team in this league. Does Marvin think we’re some 30 win team or something?

This guy blows

L-QUE

December 11th, 2010
1:10 am

Great effort ! But we to have win these type of games to get respect in the league. I feel that we are close, two maybe three players away

O'Brien

December 11th, 2010
1:12 am

Hawks played well for about 3 1/2 quarters. But they have to find a way to execute down the stretch against good teams.

And although we played well, a loss is still a loss. Can’t be happy about that.

Knicks are 12-1 in their last 13 games. Their last loss? Your ATL Hawks.

MsDee

December 11th, 2010
1:16 am

We need NASH yall!!! Dude would definitely get us over the hump in games like this!! Just image if he was here against the Spurs, we would have had a go-to PG down the stretch playing just as well as Tony Parker was for them. Nash could have had about 14assists with about 24pts..3-3 behind the 3pt line while being perfect at the free throw line!! Sund, PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN, NASH WANTS OUT OF PHOENIX AND HE SAID HE WOULD CONSIDER THE HAWKS…PLEASE SUND, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
1:21 am

MsDee, Nash couldn’t beat the Spurs with Amare, Joe, a young Marion, and Q. Richardson playing the best of his career. You think he would be able to be a much bigger difference now? No doubt his offense is better than Bibby’s. But how much of a problem would he cost on defense in the playoffs?

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 11th, 2010
1:28 am

Did they even show Smoove’s vicious block on Duncan, during the highlights of the game on Sportscenter? If it was LBJ that would have shown it 5 different times from 5 different angles and actin like he’s the only person in the league who could have done it

rusty

December 11th, 2010
1:30 am

Has any one wonder why jc1 will never get real high scoring games for the hawks like he has in the past. Jc is a streak shooter. When he is on fire like he was in the first half ld let him.sit on the bench for the first 7min of the third quarter,how smart is that? Did he want to get mo into the game ha ha?
How is it that every team in the NBA gives their high draft choices playing time when we never do. I believe that teague is not getting a real chance & jc2 is also getting screwed. Oh I forgot mo needs playing time, is he blowing ld. What I seen of jc2in the summer & in preseason he is the real thing.oh ld doesn’t like his shot selection, does he always like all the rest of teams choices. Jc2 is a scorer,he can really turn it on. On defense he is not bad,he isn’t that bad,he also moves very well. I blame him for this loss as bib played big minutes, was not knocking a lot shots down &.was the weak link in our defense. If ld isn’t going to use them trade them or get rid of ld

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
1:30 am

Mac, that’s because Lebron pays bills at ESPN, and the Hawks get blacked out, lol.

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
1:32 am

Rusty, when have you seen the Lakers, the Celtics, or any team coached by Larry Brown give the rookies extended playing time on a regular basis?

rusty

December 11th, 2010
1:40 am

Ramon I said playing time not necessary extended playing time.are we going to not give jc2 or league no time,why do we really have better players on the bench. Mo sucks, bib by, can’t play defense against quick pg and jc1 isn’t a pg

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
1:44 am

Rusty, I didn’t say I disagree. I would much rather see JC2 get playing time over Mo some games. I can’t say I’m a big fan of Teague right now. But I do want to see more of JC2.

cp

December 11th, 2010
1:52 am

This felt just like the Miami game. Those turnovers down the stretch killed them…..Im really not understanding what LD sees in Mo Evans. He isn’t good on defense and is even worse on offense. I would rather see JC2 get those minutes or give them to Damien…Mo is not getting it done yet he continues to get plenty of minutes….

MC has the front office thought about sending Teague and JC2 down to the D League? Both aren’t playing and they might benefit getting minutes down there and working on their game. It seems that no matter how terrible Mo is he will continue to play while those two just sit there. LD must really be down on Teague because even when Bibby is getting torched on defense he still wont find the kid any minutes….

The Truth

December 11th, 2010
2:17 am

I’m pissed because this was a winnable game. All this talk about the Hawks TO’s, yes they had 15 TO’s but the Spurs had 14 due to good Hawks defense. The difference was the Hawks didn’t capitalized on theirs while the Spurs made the Hawks pay with easy transition baskets or hitting 3’s especially in the 4th quarter with the game on the line. This problem points to Mike Bibby our so-called floor-general who IMO had a horrible game when the game mattered the most in the 4th quarter. I am convinced, when it comes to during something positive with an opponent’s TO, Bibby is over-rated with the exception of only a few flashes. He’ll either get trigger-happy himself trying to make long 3’s regardless of a shooting slump or he’ll make untimely lackadaisical passes that leads to more Hawks TO’s. This guy is killing us with his careless plays. Yes, there are other players that are also to blame, but as a PG, seasoned-veteran, and so-called floor-general the critical errors committed by Bibby are unacceptable. LD tamed one fire with Bibby’s poor defense from last season. However, he created another fire with Bibby tendency to cause TO’s this season trying to run his motion offense. The Hawks win/loss problems always seem to start and end with Mike Bibby more than any other player, yes including Marvin.

tony

December 11th, 2010
6:58 am

This team needs Captain Kirk(Hinrich). He’s as close to Steve Nash than any player in the league. He brings intelligence and stability something this team is lacking. I said it once and I will keep saying it, we need smarter players.

Some of you want the hawks to sign Carmelo Anthony. I think that young man wants to play for the Knicks but even if the hawks had a chance to sign him, do you honestly believe he and JS can coexit? I don’t think so. Some of you want us to sign a center…….well I got news for you. Until we get a true pg with leadership abilities, this team will continue to struggle against smarter teams with or without a good center.

Lets talk about my favorite player Jamal Crawford. Jamal is still playing timid because he doesn’t want his teammates to think he is a ball hog especially JS and JJ. I could careless what JJ and JS think because JC can help this team win games when feel he has the freedom to do his thing. I was hoping he would score 50 pionts last night because the Spurs could not defend him. Heck, most teams around the league can’t defend him. To Jamal’s teammates……GIVE THE BALL TO JAMAL! GIVE THE BALL TO JAMAL! GIVE THE BALL TO JAMAL! GIVE THE BALL TO JAMAL!

vava74

December 11th, 2010
8:05 am

tony,

Please get real. Hinrich is a combo guard, a good defender but not a dynamic offensive playmaker. There is nothing linking him with Nash besides his skin color. NOTHING.

As for Jamal, how many shots to you want him to take more? He took 18 and hit 8 yesterday.

Against MIA he missed everything he shot and hogged the ball in the 4th quarter when the game was up for grabs.

Yesterday he missed a crucial wide open lay up in the 4th. Sure, he was not the main culprit of the game going away from us. He even played passable D with steals and a block and generally trying to keep himself in front of the Spurs’ players, but… have you noticed the ratio of assists/fg yesterday?

Way down from our norm.

drmaryb (*_*)

December 11th, 2010
8:14 am

I said this:

“Lakers started season 8 – O
Then went 8 – 7

Only three wins against teams above .500
However, they are still the Lakers! You get passes only when you:

Win Something!”

Then Real Talk replied:

“@ drmaryb

Don’t even mention this Hawks Franchise in the same breath as the Lakers thats just totally disrespectful. The Lakers have about double digit championships. Excluding the St.Louis Hawks, How many do the Atlanta Hawks have………………………………………………………………………………………?”

Aye Real Talk can you also Read and Comprehend?

My closing statement was:
“However, they are still the Lakers! You get passes only when you:

Win Something!” – Does that help you understand the words?

drmaryb (*_*)

December 11th, 2010
8:33 am

Talk-A-Lot!

Real Talk? Where do you see The Hawks mentioned in my comment?
Real Read! Before you Pop-Off next time

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
9:17 am

@ vava . . . guys like Rusty and Tony want Jamal to have Kobe Bryant like freedom offensively . . as if Jamal doesn’t already have enough offensive freedom already. He played a great 3 quarters last night, but still ended up -20 in the +/- category.

Jamal did his job last night though. No complaints from me for his overall performance.

*****

@ drmaryb . . . start talking to some of these dudes like Chris Tucker did Jackie Chan in Rush Hour.

“Do yoooouuuu . . understaaaand . . the wooords that are coming out of my mouth?”

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
9:33 am

As for Bibby . . MC outlined perfectly what was going to happen to us in his pre-game write up in the last blog. Because of that, I would’ve liked for LD to throw a few switches at the Spurs on defense. Cut off Parker’s penetration, and make him shoot over a big a few times.

On those 3s that broke the game open in the 4th, they ran pick and pop on each of those plays. They screened Bibby, and Parker goes hard toward the rim. Each time, either Josh Powell or Marvin had to rotate toward Parker to prevent him from making a layup.

When that happened, Parker simply kicked it out to the man that Powell or Marvin left, and they knocked down the 3. Then we go down and turn the ball over, or jack up a bad shot, and make the situation even worse.

It’s a reason why we haven’t won in San Antonio in 14 years. When it comes down to crunch time, they execute and we don’t.

As long as we take care of Indy tonight, we can say that we had a pretty good week overall.

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
10:01 am

For those of you who like stats and box scores, popcornmachine.net is probably the best site to see exactly what went on in the game, when it happened, and who was in the game when it happened.

This is the game last night

http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20101210&game=ATLSAS

Some of you may not know how to use this site and what the numbers mean, but it completely tells the story.

I’m surprised that more people aren’t calling out Drew for pulling Josh Smith in the 4th quarter. Yeah, he had a bad game from a turnover perspective, but he still our most important player on defense.

LD just can’t afford to pull him out of a tight game like that. Every team isn’t Philadelphia. The Spurs aren’t going to offensively collapse down the stretch. So we need our best defensive player in the game during that situation.

Smith only playing 4 minutes in the 4th quarter is actually kind of inexcusable, to be honest.

That’s why I keep saying that Drew is an offensive coach, not a defensive one. He may talk and coach defensive principles, but his substitutions tend to rely on offensive players. Josh Powell should have not been in that game down the stretch.

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
10:13 am

A few food plays? You mean they needed to poison the Spurs’ food with whatever they put in the Magic’s food (which Zaza ate by accident)? ;)

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
10:23 am

Wow

So Marvin and Jamal play the entire 4th quarter. Powell plays 9 minutes in the 4th.

But Smith only plays 4 minutes and Horford 5 minutes?

According to tha game link I posted, the Spurs went on a 13 – 2 run to start the 4th quarter . . and a 13 – 4 run to end the quarter.

The common link?

Josh Smith was not in the game, for the most part, when both of those runs happened. I now see why Jamal was -20 for the game now.

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
10:29 am

Northcyde, LD is going to set the Guinness book of world record of number of games played with out a starter fouling out. The only problem is, he’s going to lose a lot of winnable games in the process, because he was scared to play guys with fouls.

tony

December 11th, 2010
10:31 am

vava74, Kirk Hinrick played pg in his 1st two seasons at Kansas but was ask to play the 2 in his final 2 seasons there. The Bulls drafted him to play pg because of his leadership abilities. He was named team captain for the Bulls for four consecutive years. I never said he was dynamic you did. We passed on 3 true pgs(Chris Paul, Deron Williams and Darren Collison) who would of had a tremendous impact for this team. During the free agent period I was lobbying for the hawks to sign Raymond Felton but you people would only criticize me for mentioning his name. Now that young man is with the Knicks averaging 18 points and 8 assists a game.

As for Jamal Crawford, I’m very aware of his game statistics. His statistics aren’t as bad as you say. I admit that he has been inconsistent at times but only because he is playing timid. I watch the way these players perform together and I’m not please with what I see from certain players. I won’t waste my time nor yours trying to explain what I mean because I don’t think you would understand if tried.

rusty

December 11th, 2010
10:35 am

Northcyde Didn’t you watch the game js was hurt.why do we haveto use Jc2
as a 6 man. Why do we always take him out of games for extended periods when he is on fire,he is a streak shooter. We give jj complete freedom to shoot & he is not as good of a scorer make
him a starter with jj out, don’t always use him as a point guard. I am concerned that the the hawks & ld will ruin jt & jc2 ,use them .

rusty

December 11th, 2010
10:37 am

Try to think real hard ,ld

Melvin

December 11th, 2010
11:01 am

Ramon,

Josh block on Duncan made number 4 in Friday top 10 plays on ESPN.

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
11:02 am

Melvin, that’s VERY surprising. I would’ve thought the top four plays would’ve went to Lebron, D’Wade, Lebron and D’Wade, and D. Rose. lol.

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
11:09 am

@ rusty . . No I didn’t see last night’s game, but I was following the play by play on the net and trying to read the blog comments at the same time.

I knew he had some sort of injury, but I didn’t know he was hurt bad enough to not finish the game. So if he was hurt, I take back my rant about him not playing more.

*****

But having said that, I have to agree with Ramon. I’m not going to beat Drew up too much over his Woody-esque “two foul rule” in the first half, even though he should trust Horford a little more. But in the 4th quarter, he can’t coach scared like that.

The very thing he’s trying to prevent ( playing without Horford at the end ), is actually hurting the team at times, because it’s keeping Horford off the floor too much during other parts of the game.

It speaks to the quality of our frontcourt depth though that he has to coach like that, especially at center. I would like to see if Horford could play through foul trouble though. He’s a smart dude. I’m sure he can do it, and still be efficient.

*****

@ tony . . . Jamal is an offensive specialist in the mold of Jason Terry and J.R. Smith. But he also has to play somewhat within the offensive system.

He, more than aanybody else on the team, gets to freelance more than anybody to get his shots . . including JJ. I don’t see how a dude that is averaging more shots on a per 36 minute basis than anybody on the team, is playing “timid”.

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
11:29 am

Northcyde, when the Hawks play championship teams like the Spurs, saving your best punch for the last 2 or 3 minutes of the game is crazy because, you may not make it past the 5-6 minute mark of the game. It only takes 45 – 60 seconds for the Spurs to turn the game around with 2 defensive stops and 2 corner threes, or and 1’s by Duncan. Now compared to getting the next 3-4 minutes out of Horford while only being down 1 or 2 (or possibly being up), you’re bringing Horford into the game with 2 minutes left, and you’re down by 9 or 10. For veteran teams like the Spurs, EVERY minute in the 4th quarter is the last minute of the game.

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
11:37 am

As they say though R.I.F. ( reading is fundamental ).

I usually read MCs blog thoroughly, but didn’t last night. He explained what happened to Smith.

So strike my comments about Drew not playing Smith from the record. It’s a shame though that we collasped defensively without him in the game.

rusty

December 11th, 2010
11:43 am

Nortgcyde Jason Terry & jt smith have never been the great scorer that jc1 has. We just don’t utilize him right. We don’t need to jerk him in & out of the game when he is hot

northcyde

December 11th, 2010
11:55 am

Yeah Ramon, I agree. All top level teams like the Spurs, Lakers, or Celtics need, is a 2 minute stretch in the 4th quarter, where they play high quality basketball for 2 minutes, and they can knock a team completely out.

We had cut that lead to 5, and it was right back up to 11 after those 2 threes. They got two stops and hit two threes within a minute, and basically ended the game.

Our bench simply isn’t good enough for LD to trust them on a nightly basis. Powell is a one dimensional offensive player. Collins is a one dimensional defensive player. To me, neither of those guys can’t be trusted, unless they’re playing at a very high level offensively ( Powell ) or defensively ( Collins ).

And even then, LD has to see if the score is negatively changing with Horford off the floor. If it is, he needs to get him back in the game ASAP.

Miles D

December 11th, 2010
11:56 am

Tough loss for us last nite! Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers killed us in the fourth quarter alone! If we don’t turn the ball over SEVEN times in the fourth…we very possible win the ballgame! I think in some instances LD needs to matchup Teague on quick PG’s though and call a different offensive set to keep vet teams off balance a little! They honed in on our motion set early in the fourth! If we run some double down screens it changes the dynamics of this game! But LD will get it done and so will we! Solid game except for except for the turnovers! MS. DEE love the NASH talk he would indeed give us a much needed edge!! LETS GO HAWKS!!!

Ted M

December 11th, 2010
12:04 pm

Orlando is 1 team we’ve beaten with a winning record. What’s the other 1?

jtshoopsblog

December 11th, 2010
12:23 pm

It’s hard to dtermined why atlanta lost so badly. Was it because San Antonio was too much for them? Or did they return to their lackadasical play? hard to tell with this group.

Ted M

December 11th, 2010
12:35 pm

That crazy full court pass by Josh started the avalanche.

Mantis

December 11th, 2010
12:35 pm

I was never happy about the Hawks’ decision to hire Larry Drew as a coach, and games like this prove my point. When it comes to scoring, he is a complete charlie foxtrot… much worse than Mike Woodson. I don’t understand why they would pass up Byron Scott and Avery Johnson after having interviewed them both.

I am sick of Jordan Crawford riding the bench. He has so much potential, and has consistently shown so. As many chances as we have given Marvin Williams, who has continued to ride down Suck Street, because of his alleged potential, it is a travesty that we have allowed one of the brightest scoring prodigies of the 2010 NBA draft get only 9 games in this season. Mike Bibby is playing entirely too many minutes, and Jamal Crawford is inconsistent.

I want to see Drew gone. I am not a fan of his coaching at all.

terrell

December 11th, 2010
1:23 pm

Bobcats in trade talks with Nuggets about Melo.

brigadierjerry

December 11th, 2010
1:27 pm

terrell where did you read that about Melo and Bobcats?

Also where would you put the Hawks as far as top teams in the east if you were to rate them 1-8 as of right now?

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
2:52 pm

Ted M, Smoove wasn’t even in the game when the Spurs made their run.

Ramon

December 11th, 2010
2:55 pm

Ted, they beat the Pacers and New York as well.

terrell

December 11th, 2010
3:43 pm

brigadierjerry, NBA TV.

Jamillion

December 11th, 2010
4:54 pm

Ramon steve nash is still a top five point. Why question the logic of that and he said he a come to atlanta. U have are most glaring weakness now a strength, in a top four point guard who is a mvp. Plus atlanta with nash a be better than phoenix for the simple fact WE PLAY DEFENSE. Plus we’ll get instant credibility and rank. And his d is better than mike and jamal Go get nash that’s a wet dream.

drmaryb (*_*)

December 11th, 2010
5:00 pm

Woo – Tang!

NorthCyde … What’s up Baby?

Yeah! I had to pull out my Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan lines to explain some simple things to Sir-Talk-A-Lot! Don’t mess with Mother – Nature after a loss. She was not in a playful mood!

I am so tired of watching The Hawks lose such winnable games due to:

Peach Turnovers and loss of Focus on execution!
Oh Well!

Let’s get Indiana tonight!

Jamillion

December 11th, 2010
5:02 pm

Ramon rondo got but kind of time as a rookie and so did kobe and paul pierce and antione walker tim duncan also. And jordan is a stud like i said when we drafted him

drmaryb (*_*)

December 11th, 2010
5:08 pm

Can someone post that link where Nash said he would come to Atlanta?
What’s the hold up?

Najeh Davenpoop

December 11th, 2010
6:13 pm

“As many chances as we have given Marvin Williams, who has continued to ride down Suck Street, because of his alleged potential, it is a travesty that we have allowed one of the brightest scoring prodigies of the 2010 NBA draft get only 9 games in this season. Mike Bibby is playing entirely too many minutes, and Jamal Crawford is inconsistent.”

You’re blaming the wrong person. Drew isn’t the one who put together a roster with five shooting guards and one small forward. LD plays Marvin because he is literally the only SF on the roster, and he doesn’t play Jordan because there are way too many players ahead of him on the depth chart at his position. I agree that Jordan shows a lot of promise and should be getting playing time somewhere (if not here then in the D-League) and you could make a solid case that he should be taking Mo’s minutes (although Mo plays a lot of minutes at SF, a position Jordan can’t play). But ultimately it’s Sund who constructed the roster this way, not LD.

Sautee

December 11th, 2010
6:17 pm

Mantis,

Since our “low point” losing 4 in a row, we have won 7 of the next 9 including beating the Magic in Orlando. If LD sucks as badly as you say, how did they pull that off?

And please don’t tell me that they won despite his coaching. The players themselves have obviously bought in to his concepts whether you like them or not.