Hawks 116, Nets 101
Greetings, all-
This is Ken Sugiura filling in and giving Michael Cunningham a rare and well-deserved night off. Hope you all enjoyed the game.
A pretty impressive night, my first time watching Larry Drew’s club in person. Obviously, ball movement and the shooting stuck out, particularly given a) they were playing the back end of a back-t0-back in which they’d shot 38.8 percent in the first game; b) were playing their fourth game in five days; c) I’m not sure about a c. Actually, here’s a c. The Nets a pretty decent defensive bunch. Their defensive field-goal percentage coming in was 44.8 percent.
The lineup of Mike Bibby/Marvin Williams/Josh Smith/Al Horford/Jason Collins, which debuted is now 2-0. I imagine Drew will keep this lineup. He likes the size mismatches it presents at the 2 and the 3 (Williams and Smith), that it makes the opponent match up the Hawks rather than vice versa. He also likes that it frees up Horford to play the 4 and not have to wrestle the likes of Brook Lopez all night.
Drew on Smith at the 3: “Most 3’s will not be able to match up against him especially when he posts them. He’s learned to be a pretty good paleyr in the post when I can get him down there, but it does pose a problem for the opposition because they have to make a decision on whether to match up big against him or like last night (against Orlando), they matched up Quentin Richardson and I went right into the post at him and they had to change the matchup.”
On Horford at 4: “I think he likes the fact that he doesn’t have to get down there, every single night, bang against somebody that’s bigger and stronger. It certainly relieves him of that, puts him in a position where he can be a little fresher at the end of the game.”
- Jamal Crawford on the game: “I think we know that anybody can lead our team in scoring on a given night. We’re O.K. with that.”
- Also: “I feel a lot more comfortable (in the offense) right now.” He was 11 for 17 with six assists.
- Hawks were able to slow Lopez down (somewhat). He had 15 before halftime, nine after. But he had 32 the first game, a 107-101 Nets win Nov. 23. Drew: “I thought our guys did a good job in making some adjustments during the course of the game in defending him and in defending the pick-and-roll with Devin Harris.” (This is probably not that important, but I don’t know that I’ve ever heard a coach give credit to the players for making the adjustments, or if I have, it hasn’t been very often. This is even less important: I was interviewing former New York Giants coach Jim Fassel once and he was talking about something like that, about some schematic or personnel change the Giants had made in their season that had them playing better and he said something like, “After we made that switch,” then he paused, and said, “After I made that switch…” I think I can safely I’ve never heard that before.)
- We’re obviously way off from this becoming reality, but I imagine some of you must be wondering — what happens if the Hawks keep up this unselfish style and start really playing well without Joe Johnson? It’d be challenging for any player, I’d think, and any team to re-adjust to their lead dog coming back, but I might think it could be especially so here. For one thing, players look to Johnson as that lead dog and so it’ll be a change in mindset for everyone when he returns.
- Smith on his jump shot: “I work hard on my jump shot. I’m not surprised if anything goes in. I assume it’s going to go in every time. I’m a confident player.” (Then he laughed a little bit.)
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Rod from College Park
December 9th, 2010
11:24 am
Rufus1,
“Did you see the defense the “DUCK” played against IGGY, GAY and Morrow. I think Morrow scored 1 Basket when Marvins was playing him…..THE DUCK CAN PLAY “D”
I am not saying you shouldn’t be upset about his offense inconsistancy, but to say he is worthless is an overstatement.
Some people have watched Wilkins play 20mins of basketball and are saying he is better than Marvin….REALLY…..I CALL THAT HATE!”
You really should give people on this blog a little more credit. So you name 3 guys that we played this year that he did a good job on for one game, and that makes him a good defender. Morrow is a stand still jump shooter with no ability to drive, so why did you name him? Have you seen the Hawks over the past 4 or 5 years, try to defend the Iggy’s, Granger’s, Lebron’s, Pierce’s…… I don’t seem to recall many nights when Marvin played lock down defense on them. I remember everyone talking about how Marvin plays Lebron well, then he came in and dropped 50 on us. I remember many of these guys killing Marvin, and Joe Johnson having to guard them to slow them down. Maybe I’m crazy? Does anyone else remember this?
dukester
December 9th, 2010
11:29 am
@Rod we agree 100% again about Marvin. Nuff said.
@Najeh Go check his stats he is 6′11″ 250lbs. The game he scored 22 pts 14 bds 2 blocks was against Wizards last I checked Jevale Mcghee is a monster at center. They have him listed at 7′0″ 252 lbs. Now hey Collins has been doing pretty good in the paint for us. But to land a 25 yr old that could replace him do the same job or better defensively and can score points all for just a back up point guard. Can we all say Sund dropped the ball on this one. Cmon son!!
@Rev Marvin will always be the odd man out. Cmon man please stop talking about marvin’s defense you guys are grasping at straws to make him seem viable. Let it go man. It takes heart,pride and passion to play defense Marvin has none of the above.
Rufus1
December 9th, 2010
11:29 am
@ROD
Marvin is the best wing defender….Joe could be if he want too….BUT MARVIN IS THE BEST.
The 1st time we played the Sixers he shutdown kapono…the 2nd time he locked-up IGGY. It was every other player on the sixers killing the Hawks.
The only players you can say destoryed Marvin LBJ and he kills everyone.
Every night in the NBA Marvins faces a very good offensive wing player….Josh faces a good offensive PF 50% of the time.
I WATCH EVERY GAME.
Rufus1
December 9th, 2010
11:43 am
@ROD
In the NBA sometimes the players scores regardless how good the defense you play…..so the box score doesn’t always tell the story, that is the NBA….WATCH THE GAME.
Perfect example Jamal crawford and Bibby’s defense has improved this year, even if so people don’t think so….They are is still not GOOD.
dukester
December 9th, 2010
11:52 am
@Rufus so where does value lie in your eyes about Marvin? Is worthy to be our staring SF? Coming off the bench as a defensive specialist? I am confused because your making a point for this guy like you really feel he is a key component to us winning.
I dont think people really like Damien Wilkins but they see the aggresion that Marvin lacks night in and night out. And my point is I dont want the hawks to pay 8 million a year for a back up SF defensive specialist.
J from the A
December 9th, 2010
11:54 am
Co-Sign the “Marvin as a valuable role player” comments.
I’ve always agreed with this. However, I do have a concern similar to one Najeh expressed in the 11:14 post: He is a bit overpaid given his production. Defensive-minded wing players with OK offensive games are not usually paid $7 million a year. Ron Artest comes to mind as a defensive-minded wing player with OK offensive games that is paid in this ball park, but Marvin Williams is no Ron Artest.
If Marvin was making $3 or $4 million a year, he would be a good investment, but at $7+ million a year, he simply is not a good investment. And with this in mind, plus considering he is not an expiring, trading him for even (or better) talent would be difficult, if not impossible. Besides the Hawks depth-wise are still very weak at the SF position. There is no one on the Hawks bench that could be a legitimate starter at the SF position … even on a bad team.
So, not only is Marvin Williams probably untradeable (at least in a trade that provides the Hawks with even or better talent), but the Hawks probably would not want to trade him given the Hawks’ SF rotation.
For better or for worse, Marvin is probably here to stay. The sooner we all accept this AND accept that Marvin is a decent contributor to this team, the better we will all be. If we are going to worry, let’s worry about filling some other holes, e.g., a starting-quality, defensive-minded center, a stronger PG rotation, a stronger SF rotation.
SUPERIORBLOGMAN
December 9th, 2010
11:59 am
Jason Thompson has 43 career double doubles in just 2 full years in the NBA. This is only his third year. Anyone that says the numbers I posted are fluky is just uninformed and does not care to inform themselves rather just spew unfounded ignorance, but what do you expect? That’s what most of you guys are inferior to me
J from the A
December 9th, 2010
12:00 pm
Oh, and I am a little confused by a previous post that implicated a Miller as being one of the few centers that could help the Hawks. Was the poster referring to Brad Miller? Yes, I would probably take Brad Miller over the backup centers the Hawks have, but if the Hawks are really in need of an upgraded DEFENSIVE-MINDED center, I don’t think Brad meets this bill by any stretch of the imagination.
As is obvious, I still like Camby. I really think he could help the Hawks, as he would be an upgrade over Collins, Pachulia, and Thomas, plus he is defensive minded. Also, the Trailblazers may be willing to trade him, as he is beginning to be a little disgruntled. (If you haven’t noticed the Trailblazers are having problems winning this year. I think if Camby was moved to a team that was winning more games, he would be much happier. But, of course, I could be wrong.)
drmaryb (*_*)
December 9th, 2010
12:01 pm
Ms. Dee said it BEST, when she said this:
“WOW..Nash with 8 TO’S and only 11 pts..truly LOOKS like he wants OUT OF PHOENIX!! His mind isnt there with that team anymore..he has no help there..J Richardson w/ 4pts, G. Hill w/ 10, C. Frye w/11, and J Chills w/ 7..WE COULD USE YA NASH, COME ON TO DA ATL!!”
I agree, also don’t forget Nash just had an infant daughter what? 5 weeks ago and the following week, his wifey filed for divorce. So, I am sure Nash is pretty stressed out right now on many levels: Personal and Professional.
Iam sure he does want out of Phoenix and a crack at that vaunted RING!
My question is: Will he desire to remain on the West Coast, to be near his children? I am sure Phoenix will consider his list of requested teams to play forn and try to accommodate. Also, will he want to play here without that Big dominant Center? Also, what happened to Joe’s Agent who claimed Joe would recruit help for his Hawks, after he signed that Max-Deal this Summer?
More questions than answers, IMHO.
J from the A
December 9th, 2010
12:03 pm
@Superiorblogman: Talent-wise a Teague for Thompson trade makes sense. However, personnel-wise the trade makes no sense, unless the Hawks could combine this trade with another trade or two that addresses some of the personnel issues.
Rufus1
December 9th, 2010
12:26 pm
@Dukester
I am not saying he isn’t currently overpaid for his offensive production, but to overlook his defensive ability isn’t fair.
Batteir makes 7mil year, Ariza makes 7mil a year and Kendrick Perkins will get atleast 7mil a year when he signs a new contract. None of the players are very good offensive players, but have value to their teams.
@Rod and anyone that thinks the box score tells the whole story.
I have watched Kobe score 30pts against Battier atleast a dozens times, but no person on the blog would call Shane an average defensive player. His value may not show up in the box….
Marvin is about 5 years younger and some people want to trade Marvin for Battier….Really. I don’t want to hear the Battier is a leader….Tell one of those 10 to 20mil players to step-up and be a leader.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 9th, 2010
12:32 pm
Rev in Tampa said:
“@northcyde – “To me, it just doesn’t make sense to be stressing out about Marvin. He’s a secondary player. If he plays well, that’s great. If he doesn’t, just reduce his minutes.”
Aye Rev? Can we reduce his salary too? LOL.
When Bibby (who rarely speaks to media) was asked about his thoughts on Marvin? He NEVER mentioned DEFENSE. Matt Barnes, Tony Allen and Ron Artest? Now, your are talking game changing DEFENSE.
I just don’t see the – ‘Love of Marvin’
Rod from College Park
December 9th, 2010
12:37 pm
Rufus 1,
So if you do watch EVERY game as you say, why is so hard for you to remember that in crunch time for the past 4 or 5 years, the best wing players (as you say) are most of the time guarded by Joe or Josh. Marvin has never been in the game during crunch time anyway, so would you not think that your best wing defender would be on the floor?
I you are going to make a statement about a player being our best wing defender, and then use one game as proof, then your statement does not hold water.
For instance, last year against Philly, Iggy averaged 20 ppg against us. Marvin really locked him up huh. Granger averaged 31 ppg. Where was Marvin? Lebron averaged 26ppg against us. Great defense by Marvin right. Get real. Maybe because all other parts of his game are below average, you guys try to give him more credit for his defense than he deserves. Joe has been our best perimeter defender cosistently over the past couple of years. If you can’t admit that, then you obviously don’t watch EVERY game.
Rod from College Park
December 9th, 2010
12:52 pm
Rufus1,
@Rod and anyone that thinks the box score tells the whole story.
Actually that is my point. YOU took one game from this year against Iggy, and said Marvin locked him up. Did you every consider that maybe Iggy might had a bad game? Guys like Battier, Artest, Prince, and Ariza, are proven defenders who coaches and players have voted on all defensive teams, or they have played great defense on a great scorer over a seven game series, not just one game. I have never heard anyone not associated with the Atlanta Hawks or this blog ever give Marvin Williams credit for being a great defender.
Rufus1
December 9th, 2010
12:55 pm
@Rod
LBJ 30pts for the season…so based on your numbers he keep LBJ 4pts below his average.
IGGY is a SG, so when he GOING OFF on the Hawks …..JOE was defending him…See I watch the Games.
Marvin Guarding IGGY.. 39min, 4-12, 2FTM, 10pts.. I don’t know what you call that….I also watched the game.
I just saying he can play defense…That is all.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 9th, 2010
1:00 pm
“A” for Effort and Passion!
Rufus1 said:
“Marvin is about 5 years younger and some people want to trade Marvin for Battier….Really. I don’t want to hear the Battier is a leader….Tell one of those 10 to 20mil players to step-up and be a leader.”
I have go give you props for your debating skills and passion for the argument!
However, just because Battier and Ariza are overpaid? Doesn’t give solace to Marvin being over paid by a cash strapped ball club.
I would actually rather pay Battier at 5 years older to paying Marvin’s invisible game. Battier has seasoning, and can hit his threes and mid-range jump shots consistently. He does NOT disappear in games either. That man has a HEART!
And, guarding KOBE is a mute point! Kobe is unstoppable – period. He is a 5 Time Champion who plays with a broken finger on his shooting hand and still makes impossible baskets look easy. Not even a debate there.
Besides, older veteran teams are the recipe of Champions! We could use some old cats like: Ray Allen, KG, Shaq, Kobe and that lists goes into eternity. Young teams have NEVER won it all in Basketball!
Maybe the Marlins or Tampa Bay Devil Rays in Baseball, which is ONE POSITION dominated – PITCHING and NOT hitting wins there!
But, NEVER the case in Basketball! Look up the past 30 Champions of round ball:They are all “Over the Hill”. Talent laden ball clubs with at least 3 HOF’ers!
So, no, Marvin will never help a ball club win a RING – with his game nor so-called defense! Mark My Words! IMHO! Old Vets play URGENTLY! Because, they know it’s time to hang up the Laces! Marvin does NOT spell – U R G E N C Y!
drmaryb (*_*)
December 9th, 2010
1:03 pm
Blog – Hopping!
Rufus1 got this BLOG hopping! Can you believe the topic is: MARVIN? Damn!
LOL!
J from the A
December 9th, 2010
1:03 pm
@Rufus1 Re: $7 million-a-year defensive-minded wing players. I cannot believe I forgot about Battier and Ariza.
In almost all categories, Ariza’s stats are slightly better, including Ariza’s defensive stats. Ariza also averages about 5 more minutes per game.
Shane Battier’s ppg, rebounds and FG% are similar to Marvin’s, but Shane is shooting much better from beyond the arc, Shane also has twice as many assists per game, and Shane has a higher average block per games.
Of course, stat lines never tell the whole story. I think Shane would be a _small_ upgrade over Marvin. In addition to slightly better stats, he brings some of those important intangibles. I am not sure if I would take Ariza over Marvin, though. I don’t think Ariza would really add anything meaningful to the Hawks above and beyond what Marvin already brings.
Hawkeye
December 9th, 2010
1:20 pm
Is it possible to make this trade? http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
Zaza and Marvin plus a draft pick for Hinrich and Thornton
Teague for Thompson
HAWKS will have a YOUNGER AND DEEPER bench
lineup will look like this:
C- Collins
F- Horford
F- Smoove
G- Joe
G- Bibby
Reserve:
C- THOMPSON / Etan
F- Powell
F- THORNTON/ Pape
G- JC1 / Evans
G- HINRICH/ JC2
Thompson is not really a real center and a great defensive player but i would rather have him over Zaza. He’s YOUNG and can contribute right away both rebounding and offensively and he’s not a bad defender either. Having Hinrich will give us a solid backup PG for bibby. He’s a good spot up shooter, defender and facilitator. I would even start him over bibby. While having Thornton will provide us more consistent scoring and explosiveness during the break.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 9th, 2010
1:25 pm
Killing ‘Em Softly!
Rod from CP is winning this argument – Hands Down! He is killing Rufus1, “who started it all” with Stats and Facts!
Rod’s argument is UNDISPUTED and Marvin’s Game?
Backs him up – Every Time!
Hawkeye
December 9th, 2010
1:26 pm
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=24rxjl2
Is it possible to make this trade?
Zaza and Marvin plus a draft pick for Hinrich and Thornton
Teague for Thompson
HAWKS will have a YOUNGER AND DEEPER bench
lineup will look like this:
C- Collins
F- Horford
F- Smoove
G- Joe
G- Bibby
Reserve:
C- THOMPSON / Etan
F- Powell
F- THORNTON/ Pape
G- JC1 / Evans
G- HINRICH/ JC2
Thompson is not really a real center and a great defensive player but i would rather have him over Zaza. He’s YOUNG and can contribute right away both rebounding and offensively and he’s not a bad defender either. Having Hinrich will give us a solid backup PG for bibby. He’s a good spot up shooter, defender and facilitator. I would even start him over bibby. While having Thornton will provide us more consistent scoring and explosiveness during the break.
J from the A
December 9th, 2010
1:36 pm
@Hawkeye: It’s one of the few semi-realistic trade proposals that let’s the Hawks keep JC1. Depending on your point of view, that may be a good thing. I like adding Hinrich to the line up. With that move, the Hawks PG rotation definitely improves.
However, Marvin is better than Thornton IMHO. Maybe that is the price the Hawks pay to get Hinrich. The move has the Hawks take one step forward at the PG position but one step back at the SF position. I don’t know — maybe the move is worth it.
As far as Thompson vs. ZaZa … is this really an improvement at the *C* position? Stat wise both players put up similar numbers. ZaZa (usually) brings a bit of energy off the bench that the (more causal) fans love. Thompson is smaller than ZaZa is probably better equipped to play PF.
If you could find a way to make a similar trade, but bring in a center who would be an improvement over Collins as-a-defensive-center and who would not hurt the Hawks offensively, I think the trade becomes a good trade for the Hawks. Of course, a trade has to be perceived by all parties involved as a good trade, or else, a trade will never take place.
dukester
December 9th, 2010
1:43 pm
@Everybody who thinks Marvin being on this team is ok.
First you J from the A in one breath you say no one will trade for Marvin because of lack of production and salary. But the next breath you say but he is not all that bad. Lets be real the problem I have with Marvin is first he plays with no heart. I mean it is a darn shame we are comparing Marvin to Shane Battier and Ariza. He cant hold either of there jock straps! Yes if we trade Marvin we will be extra thin at SF but I tell you I would rather have a player with passion and heart any day instead of 6′9″ “lion from the wizard of oz”.
And yes we should be stressing out over Marvin. I am always looking for the weakest link on a team. Yes we have all kinds of needs but the way you folks are talking like “it is what it is” as far as Marvin and the hawks. If that’s how you feel then we might as well stop blogging to each other because I will never let up on Marvin until he becomes the player we need him to be.
J from the A
December 9th, 2010
1:45 pm
@Hawkeye: Follow up: After taking a few more minutes to think about the trade, I actually do like it. I am not sure if it makes the Hawks any closer to the Eastern Conference Championship, but it probably does not make the Hawks any worse, while also putting the Hawks in a bit better salary position going forward.
So, the real question is whether or not the Wizards would go the trade knowing that (1) personnel wise it only helps the Wizards a little bit and (2) it hurts them salary-wise if they plan to make a run at one of the bigger name free agents this year or next.
dukester
December 9th, 2010
1:46 pm
@J and from A in defense of SuperiorBlog man. Which that comment was superior believe me. LOL
You acting like Teague can not be replaced. Sir he is currently a backup point guard for a starting center!!
drmaryb (*_*)
December 9th, 2010
1:46 pm
Hawkeye
Not a bad trade, but Zsa for Thompson? Mmmmh! Zsa has more BEEF in the pants. Can, Thompson – “Stare Down”- KG? While Zsa may be regressing, he does battle, body-up and collect Offensive Boards. Also, is a pretty decent passer.
Marvin is a weaker link than Zsa, IMHO. Not ready to give up on Teague just yet.
But, your trade does make some sense and would add value.
It’s jusþ a matter of what is needed the most to take the next step!
We got many holes!
ILL-Logical
December 9th, 2010
1:50 pm
Some food for thought:
http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2010/12/big-lineup-and-frontcourt-rotation.html
J from the A
December 9th, 2010
1:51 pm
@Dukester, being difficult to trade because of low-production-for-your-salary-point and being a valuable role player are NOT mutually exclusive events. In other words, there is no tension in saying that some player (e.g., Marvin Williams) is both a player that may be difficult to trade because he has low production given his salary and he is a player that is a solid role player.
J from the A
December 9th, 2010
1:57 pm
@Dukester (again): Now you are accusing me of acting like Teague cannot be replaced. No where did I make any such suggestion. I simply said you don’t trade Teague for Thompson unless you have a trade in place that let’s the Hawks fill in other holes (e.g., another pg).
It is becoming obvious that reading comprehension is something that does not come easy for you …
Hawkeye
December 9th, 2010
2:25 pm
J from the A
I love your trade proposal which involves having camby and hinrich it’s definite upgrade in the 5 and 1 spot but i wouldn’t mind having him if he’s 3 years younger. I know thompson will not solve our problem C spot but he can be an asset if we want to make a trade in the future and having him saves us more $. Zaza may be bigger and tougher than him but IMO I think thompson is more talented offensively and he’s a decent rebounder and defender. After watching wilkins defend lebron I don’t think losing marvin will affect the team that much and we have plenty of shooters to make up for his 3pt shooting and we have yet see Pape play and i think thornton is a cheap decent replacement for marvin.
Making this trade will save us more $ and probably makes it possible for us to resign JC1.
Zaza 15M 3yrs v.s Thompson 6M 2yrs
Marvin 24M 3 yrs v.s Thornton 3M 1yr plus (team option)
SUPERIORBLOGMAN
December 9th, 2010
2:39 pm
Jason Thompson has 43 double doubles in his short career which is only 2 full years old and Teague is as worthless as Acie Law this should not even be a discussion. Jamal Crawford is a much better option at backup PG than Teague. You people are pure stupid with some of your comments.
Hawkeye
December 9th, 2010
2:42 pm
Well i thought making that trade will benefit us in a way:
1.) Saves us $ (Marvin+ zaza salary = 40M 3 YEARS, and having them is not a long term solution)
2.) Trade will make us younger (thompson and thornton, zaza’s getting old)
3.) Gives us trade pieces (thompson/thornton)
4.) Gives us a solid Backup PG (hinrich)
5.) Let us keep JC1
Let’s just hope that Wizard’s GM is as Bad as Sac and Goldenstate’s GM to make this trade happen.
dukester
December 9th, 2010
2:47 pm
@ At J from the A
Reading is very fundamental for me sir. My point is in just about every trade a shortage at the position will occur. Unless of course you trade position for position. But I can tell you this most teams will 99% of the time trade a guard for a big. Someone said Flip Murray is out there on the waiver wire to picked up if you are looking for back up point guard. My point is this look at the list of bigs we have. Collins,Powell and Thomas and Zaza. Why wouldnt you want to add a 6′11″ 250lbs who according to “superior blogman” has had 43 double doubles in 2 years in the NBA. By the way his salary less than 2 million.
Just like we called up Damien Wilkins we call a 1000 back up point guards to fill Teague’s spot. Now if you cant comprehend my point or diagree with it. Then more power to you sir.
dukester
December 9th, 2010
2:54 pm
@Superior no one said lets go get Acie Law
I said we should have traded Teague for Thompson. And if need be we could sign Acie Law and he would be a regular ole back up point guard to fill a roster spot. Someone used the excuse that trading Teague would leave us thin at PG and over loaded at PF/C. My thoughts are so what there are 1000’s of point guards on the street looking for a job. Pick one and move on. We are not over loaded at the big spot we really only have a couple that we can trust. I mean we were so despearate we resigned Collins and Thomas. Geeshh cmon guys wake up. It’s like yall fall in love with certain players that are not producing and I dont understand it.
Hawkeye
December 9th, 2010
3:01 pm
dukester
i also thought of signing Acie if they decided to trade teague since we all knew that acie is not really a bad back up PG if only woodson gave him enough playing time and experience. I think LD can use acie as much as he use teague.
SUPERIORBLOGMAN
December 9th, 2010
3:04 pm
dukester: I would be fine with picking up Acie if it meant we could do the Thompson Teague trade. I was agreeing with you dude but the truth is for those people saying trading Teague would make us short at backup PG I am saying that Jamal is the backup PG. Jamal usually is the 1st player off the bench and he subs in the for Bibby. That means Jamal is playing backup PG and doing a good job so why are people talking this Teague stuff I don’t know
Melvin
December 9th, 2010
3:19 pm
Look who made the underpaid list of NBA players. I guess T.S. will be turning over in his sleep tonight.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/12/07/lebron-james-rondo-durant-business-sports-nba-best-players-buck_slide_12.html
JoJo the Godfather
December 9th, 2010
3:24 pm
When we’re talking about the Hawks making moves, we can’t forget about the luxury tax…We don’t even know if we can afford to keep Wilkins for the rest of the year, much less take on an extra $600k in a Teague for Thompson swap, and we definitely can’t trade Teague for Thompson, cut someone, and then sign a free agent PG to finish the year…As a Hawks fan, for every move we propose, we have to consider this year’s salary impact, and future years as well.
Melvin
December 9th, 2010
3:48 pm
According to MC tweet…
Hawks C Zaza Pachulia (ill) out Fri at Spurs
drmaryb (*_*)
December 9th, 2010
3:57 pm
Orlando Magic! Spreading that bug around the NBA!
Get Well Soon Zsa!