Hawks 116, Nets 101
Greetings, all-
This is Ken Sugiura filling in and giving Michael Cunningham a rare and well-deserved night off. Hope you all enjoyed the game.
A pretty impressive night, my first time watching Larry Drew’s club in person. Obviously, ball movement and the shooting stuck out, particularly given a) they were playing the back end of a back-t0-back in which they’d shot 38.8 percent in the first game; b) were playing their fourth game in five days; c) I’m not sure about a c. Actually, here’s a c. The Nets a pretty decent defensive bunch. Their defensive field-goal percentage coming in was 44.8 percent.
The lineup of Mike Bibby/Marvin Williams/Josh Smith/Al Horford/Jason Collins, which debuted is now 2-0. I imagine Drew will keep this lineup. He likes the size mismatches it presents at the 2 and the 3 (Williams and Smith), that it makes the opponent match up the Hawks rather than vice versa. He also likes that it frees up Horford to play the 4 and not have to wrestle the likes of Brook Lopez all night.
Drew on Smith at the 3: “Most 3’s will not be able to match up against him especially when he posts them. He’s learned to be a pretty good paleyr in the post when I can get him down there, but it does pose a problem for the opposition because they have to make a decision on whether to match up big against him or like last night (against Orlando), they matched up Quentin Richardson and I went right into the post at him and they had to change the matchup.”
On Horford at 4: “I think he likes the fact that he doesn’t have to get down there, every single night, bang against somebody that’s bigger and stronger. It certainly relieves him of that, puts him in a position where he can be a little fresher at the end of the game.”
- Jamal Crawford on the game: “I think we know that anybody can lead our team in scoring on a given night. We’re O.K. with that.”
- Also: “I feel a lot more comfortable (in the offense) right now.” He was 11 for 17 with six assists.
- Hawks were able to slow Lopez down (somewhat). He had 15 before halftime, nine after. But he had 32 the first game, a 107-101 Nets win Nov. 23. Drew: “I thought our guys did a good job in making some adjustments during the course of the game in defending him and in defending the pick-and-roll with Devin Harris.” (This is probably not that important, but I don’t know that I’ve ever heard a coach give credit to the players for making the adjustments, or if I have, it hasn’t been very often. This is even less important: I was interviewing former New York Giants coach Jim Fassel once and he was talking about something like that, about some schematic or personnel change the Giants had made in their season that had them playing better and he said something like, “After we made that switch,” then he paused, and said, “After I made that switch…” I think I can safely I’ve never heard that before.)
- We’re obviously way off from this becoming reality, but I imagine some of you must be wondering — what happens if the Hawks keep up this unselfish style and start really playing well without Joe Johnson? It’d be challenging for any player, I’d think, and any team to re-adjust to their lead dog coming back, but I might think it could be especially so here. For one thing, players look to Johnson as that lead dog and so it’ll be a change in mindset for everyone when he returns.
- Smith on his jump shot: “I work hard on my jump shot. I’m not surprised if anything goes in. I assume it’s going to go in every time. I’m a confident player.” (Then he laughed a little bit.)
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KevinM
December 8th, 2010
10:13 am
SUPERIORBLOGMAN – good ideas, but you have to give up something of value to get something of value….
Anyone want to revisit Shaq for Marvin w/the Cavs?
I am not surprised the Hawks are doing better w/o E#2 than the Cavs are w/o LeBron. We really aren’t missing much at this point.
Yes, E#2 is talented, but while it is a short run, it shows that no one guy is going to be depended on to win games. Bibby, Smoove, and JC1 have all had big moments in E#2’s absence.
I don’t like the idea of moving JC1, and never have…..he is proven, unlike the cheaper, younger JC2. Its a shame the summer of Sund had to occur…..there would be some flexibility on this team that there currently isn’t…..
At this point, you’re not getting much for Marvin, Teague, or Zaza.
KevinM
December 8th, 2010
10:14 am
Forgot to welcome Ken in in place of MC….
Rev in Tampa
December 8th, 2010
10:37 am
I was so hoping that I would be the first to suggest that Marvin stay on the bench after JJ returns, but it is still satisfying to contemplate it as I read several of you make the statement ahead of me.
I saw Marvin standing around on the perimeter so many times while the shot was going up. Had Marvin taken a step to the backcourt I would thought that he might have the assignment to get back on D, but he just stood there being useless. He got only garbage rebounds and really did not work to get open on offense.
Surely Drew, Gattison, Hill, Bender, or Connor should be noticing this inactivity. Is it being addressed by the staff, what is being done about it, where is the accountability???
On a different note (as I regain my composure), I looked at the Hawks official site to make sure I got all the coaches names but I did not see Nick Van Exel listed as a coach. Have I missed something? Has he been let go? Did LD decided that Teague has no inner dog to develop?
i_am_soulstar
December 8th, 2010
10:50 am
The starting line up should be flexible throughout the entire season. Make adjustments based on matchups. Anyone outside of the 3 captains should be open to coming off the bench for the sake of the team.
tony
December 8th, 2010
10:52 am
If it ain’t broken don’t change it. We should leave the lineup like it is except for MW. We should throw JC1 or DW in at the 2 spot. We don’t need JJ anymore because JS and JC1 plays much better without him. Let’s try to dump JJ salary by sending him to Washington for Kirk Hinrick and their 1st or 2nd round pick.
tony
December 8th, 2010
10:54 am
Forgot…..Sign my favorite player JC1.
Mike is back
December 8th, 2010
10:54 am
MsDee, on your 1:15 am post on JC2…I don’t think it’s a knock on JC2…he’s got to put his time in like everybody else…minutes are just sparse at the PG and SG positions…especially with the improved play of Bibby this season. Teague has stepped up too of late…and he is not getting much PT either…JC2 time will come…it’s a loooooooong season.
I hope people don’t get too impatient with LD…Dude is still working out his rotations. LD and his staff is doing a remarkable job of getting these guys to buy into his system…Teague and JC2 have to make the most out of the time they get…that’s what’s up.
JC2 can learn a lot from Bibby and JC1…while he is getting these DNP’s…If he does that…he should be fine.
Sautee
December 8th, 2010
11:26 am
O’Brien,
From the last blog, where you said this:
“I think Collins should start against the Spurs and TD. Horford has a hard time slowing Timmy down.”
“I would not start Marvin at SG though. I would go Bibby/Evans/Josh/Al/Twin.”
I agree with one exception: I would start Damien instead of Mo to “put a rock in Manu’s jock” (that is, to slow him down greatly).
Rev in Tampa
December 8th, 2010
11:36 am
Sautee, I agree completely. Moe was horrible last night. He must be hurt.
lewis
December 8th, 2010
11:37 am
Mo said he would be playing in pain for the rest of the season due to his knee.
Worthless imo.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 8th, 2010
11:59 am
Ken Sigura,
I really enjoyed your fresh and new analysis of our Hawks team win last night. Welcome that! Is nice to hear something new and fresh on the blog.
Aye Mike! Get well soon, you deserve a break you’ve been ‘Doin’ Work!”
Ken said that Josh said:
“Smith on his jump shot: “I work hard on my jump shot. I’m not surprised if anything goes in. I assume it’s going to go in every time. I’m a confident player.” (Then he laughed a little bit.)”
Kudos to you, Josh! Your hard work on your game year in and year out has not gone un-noticed. And, YOU Sir, are appreciated! I wish you could take your home boy Marvin under your wing and help him improve his game too.
ASKG has invested heavily on Marvin, I don’t see Marvin giving back. Marvin needs to put his schoolin’ on hold in the Summer and do some serious work on his invisible game and jump shot! Josh said, “CONFIDENCE” confidence is a very fragile emotion: It goes as fast as it comes! Especially, with jump shooting.
Marvin shoots with NO confidence. Too bad you can’t BUY IT? He sure has the money to buy some.
Anyway, Great Win! Great Coaching! Great effort and play from Twin!
Let’s Go! Aye Joe! Get Well Soon! We need you big time to Get Well Soon!
Your team will be ready to take that next step when YOUbreturn!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 8th, 2010
12:33 pm
I would go Bibby/Joe/Damien/Josh/Al against smaller teams and Bibby/Joe/Josh/Al/Collins against bigger teams. I like what Collins gives the Hawks against other big centers, but Horford plays just fine against the majority of the so-called centers in the league. The Hawks have a major athleticism advantage against most NBA teams, and unless that is being neutralized by a size disadvantage, they should stick with Horford at C.
wordsmithtom
December 8th, 2010
1:27 pm
DrMary,
You’d think Sweetthing would give MW a shot of confidence!
Seriously, I think he’s still hurt. And I know how an uncertain knee can affect your confidence. It’s a long season. Let’s hope he mends and gets on track. If now, we’ll have a tough trade decision to make this summer.
Ramon
December 8th, 2010
1:36 pm
Here’s a question for EVERYONE.
If the Hawks didn’t re-sign Joe, would they record be better, the same or worse than it currently is at the end of the first quarter of the season at 15-8?
NCBravesFan
December 8th, 2010
1:44 pm
Ramon: my guess is it would be roughly the same. The Hawks have had a pretty easy schedule up until now. To me, not re-signing Joe would have set the team back some because he’s one more offensive and defensive weapon lost.
However if the Hawks aren’t willing to spend more money to upgrade the roster and try to press further in the playoffs, I’m not quite sure why maxing Joe for 6 years makes much sense … especially at his age.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2010
1:51 pm
Let’s see how the better teams scheme against Horford and Josh before we decide that Joe isn’t needed. We just had a stretch of games when we couldn’t score 95 points and Josh was socring less than 15 a game. Let’s be careful not to assume that kicking a 4-time All-Star to the curb was the right move for a team that hasn’t seen game 5 of the second round of the playoffs. In other words, this team ain’t accomplished jack to be running off significant talent.
Ramon
December 8th, 2010
1:53 pm
NCBravesFan, you think the schedule has been easy? The Hawks have probably had the fewest days of off days in the league or close to it. The Hawks have only had 2 or 3 days truly off. It seems they play the most back to back home/away out of any of the other eastern teams. You may be right though. The quality of opponents haven’t been great. But I think the travel and preparation time is underrated.
I agree on the comments about Joe. The only problem is, besides Shaq, I can’t say I’ve clearly seen an opportunity since then that they could’ve wisely spent money (and Avery Johnson of course). I can’t truly say I would rather have Barnes than Wilkins. And I don’t think they’ve had a clear chance to upgrade the PG position.
Ramon
December 8th, 2010
1:59 pm
AJ, I am not saying either way. I was all for re-signing Joe, even at the maximum amount, because the uncertainties were too great. I will say I believe this season and next season, Joe may end up being more valuable as a trade piece if it brought a superstar pg (Paul, But Stern won’t allow that to happen now, lol). I personally believe, Crawford is still the player who needs to be traded the most. With the injury to Joe, Crawford is auditioning for the entire league to drive up his price for the off season. I really don’t believe he looks at re-signing with the Hawks as an option, unless the Hawks (IMO foolishly) offers him the highest contract compared to the other teams.
I’m just curious to see what is the common opinion of where life would be without Joe in comparison to now.
cp
December 8th, 2010
2:18 pm
It was a good win last night. Big games from Josh, Al, and Jamal….The front office really needs to consider moving Marvin. Hurt or not the dude just stands around and looks uninterested in the game. If he isn’t going to score then at least play lock down d but he doesn’t even do that. I have no idea how he still starts at this point… I would pout Mo in street clothes and let JC2 play.. Mo is too small to guard sf’s and too slow to guard most sg’s. He is an average defender at best and has no offensive game. I would rather take the growing pains with JC2 on defense. He is a better scorer and passer than Mo. No more Mo. I think LD just doesn’t like what he sees in Teague. He was talking about giving him pt all summer and how he had confidence in him. He was playing early in the season but wasn’t doing much with the pt. ZaZa is just flat out terrible. He might be trying but he just doesn’t have it. This dude fumbles more passes than a little bit. He is good for at least 2 passes he cant handle and one illegal moving screen a game.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2010
2:18 pm
I wonder if Drew will apologize for Teague not making the Rookie-Sophomore All Star game like Woody did last year?
Ramon, the Hawks record may be slightly worse, maybe with another win against a good team and another loss or two against a bad team. But overall, comparable. But our schedule has been relatively easy thus far… the value of having someone like Joe (healthy) on the team is not when you’ve played the 76ers, Nets & T’Wolves 6 times in the first 20-something games, but when you are playing elite teams over the course of maybe 2-3 weeks (like what we’re about to go through). IMO, we could miss any one of our top 3 players and still beat the Nets & 76ers every time and all the time.
Sautee
December 8th, 2010
2:46 pm
AJ,
Man, it’s only Dec. 8th. I mean Bibby or Jamal could get injured and Jeff could get major minutes and shine enough to be asked. Believe me, I don’t think that’s at all likely, but it’s a little early to say it couldn’t..
But I guess it’s never to early for you to get a shot in on LD.
Ramon
December 8th, 2010
2:52 pm
Sautee, Teague has been given many chances, by LD, to shine enough to get playing time. Its hard to see Teague being a starting PG for a playoff caliber team any time soon. And being that there were 5 or 6 pg’s drafted before him, Teague would need to come in averaging 18-10 to be considered anywhere close to the top of the class, lol. Teague is easily the worst shooter on the team. And you can only believe its a mental thing, because he was able to score with such ease in college. Maybe he needs to slow down a little on the offensive end, and exhale. Whatever it is, he’s missing a lot of opportunities to have meaningful playing time. I guess Woody was right, lol. Can’t believe I just said that. So that would mean Woody was right about Teague, Salim, Law, and Solomon. Wow, who knew?
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2010
2:58 pm
Sautee, no shot at LD. I never gave much credence to Teague as being ready to contribute to a 50-win team last year (or early part of this year). Dude is about as mentally tough as the guy on the Geico commercial. To your point, it appears his next shot will happen due to injury and not due to anything that he does.
Ramon
December 8th, 2010
2:59 pm
I know this is the Hawks blog, but Meyer just quit AGAIN!
i_am_soulstar
December 8th, 2010
3:00 pm
We may make the playoffs without Joe, but it’s unlikely we make it out of the first round. He brings alot more than scoring to this ball club. Any guy who commands double teams (although he could pass out of the double team better), averages 5 rebounds and 5 assists, plays above average on the ball defense, and is a bona fide closer is indispensible to this club. Never argues with the refs, never backs down from superstars, keeps a good relationship with the coach and players. All those guys in the lockerroom look up to him 4 a reason.
And just think, if he comes back shooting like old Joe and assimilates well into the offense, the Hawks could become a very dangerous team in the East.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2010
3:01 pm
Ramon, you mean Salim and Acie who are no longer earning NBA paychecks?
Ramon
December 8th, 2010
3:06 pm
AJ, not unless they’re doing a secret documentary for NBA.com ‘Life after College, The Unemployed with Degrees” lol.
heartofdarkness
December 8th, 2010
3:23 pm
Coach Drew probably will change starting lineups based on the opposing centers. Reducing the body banging on Horford keeps him fresh for late in the game and allows him to assume more of an offensive role. Against less potent post men, you may want to give Horford more time down low. Hawks are getting disappointing production out of Williams and Evans in the half court offense (they appear to be reduced to being a post on the periphery). Against the zone, they were non-factors. Neither were reliable on open jumpers when the chance came. I am puzzled as to what the coaching staff thinks their strengths are.
There seems to be an encouragement in the offense for shooter who only have a prayer from the 3 pt line, to move closer and hit a higher percentage shot. It has reduced offensive dry spells this year, IMHO.
NCBravesFan
December 8th, 2010
3:29 pm
Ramon: the Hawks have been busy this year – seems like a lot of “three games in four days” sets early on. As you mentioned, I was speaking more to the caliber of teams they had played so far rather than the relative number of games.
You may be right about roster moves that could have actually helped – hard to believe there wasn’t a trade to be made somewhere in the off season. Maybe Sund wanted to see how the team came together in LDs new system before making personnel tweaks.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2010
3:31 pm
Ramon, I readily admit I was wrong on both Salim and Acie. I thought Salim would be Van Exel at best and Eddie House at worse. And I saw Acie play in his first NBA game and was thrilled that we drafted him and figured we were set for the long-term. I think I learned with both of those guys not to be fooled after a few flashes… which made me more cautious in evaluating Teague (as the supposed PG of the future). I still think that Teague is much closer to a back-up combo guard (think Lou Williams or George Hill) than the starting PG for a 50-win team. But with Jamal on board, he won’t ever get the chance to show his innate scoring skills off the bench. If LD paired him with Mo Evans as the second string backcourt and told Teague to go out and score 8-12 points a game, I actually think he could do that tomorrow. But asking him to manage the offense with Jamal expecting to touch the ball on every half-court possession? I don’t think so.
Ramon
December 8th, 2010
3:43 pm
AJ, I actually loved the Hawks drafting Law over Stuckey when they drafted AC. And I thought Salim was a steal. In Salim, I saw a pure shooter who could out shoot anyone in that draft. And in AC, I saw what I perceived to be a tough minded PG, who had lead his team each year. I though AC would be a leader. Some say MJ ruined Kwame’s career. Some could say Woody may have ruined AC and Salim’s career. But I don’t buy into any of that. If you can play, you’re going to end up playing somewhere in the first 4-5 seasons.
I could agree Teague is more of a scoring guard than natural PG. The only problem with that is, on this roster, even without Crawford, it would be tough for him to do that. When Teague is in the game, all the opposition has to do is shift to a zone to take away any effectiveness he could possibly have.
Sautee
December 8th, 2010
4:09 pm
Ramon and AJ,
I’m already on board (and have been for a couple of weeks) with the idea of trading Jamal for a starting point guard who can play D (Hinrich comes to mind).
But I’ll have to say that if Jamal can play more often like he did last night (that is, shoot over 50% while dealing 6 assists and only 3 to’s), he’ll change my mind.
Odds are, Jamal cannot keep that up. AND he is a defensive liability to the degree that many, many nights he gives more than he gets.
So, back to the trade for me. I see it (a defensive point guard) as our biggest need, now that we have Damien for some minutes at the 3.
And y’all are right that Teague likely can’t be a starter anytime soon. Which is why I say trade Jamal sooner than later.
Jamal, if you read this, nothing personal. You seem like one of the good guys in the league, but we have a glaring need that you aren’t likely to fill.
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 8th, 2010
4:23 pm
SAY IT AINT SO..JORDAN CRAWFORD QUITS THE NBA FOR THE RUCKERS LEAGUE!!( NOT REALLY TRUE) AT LEAST THAT WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE THOUGH..WHERE IS THIS GUY AT AND WHY ARENT THE HAWKS UTILIZING THIS GUY..IM GUESSING HE MIGHT BE TRADE BAIT SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD…ANYWAYS KUDOS TO THE HAWKS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A GOOD STREAK HERE LATELY..IN TERMS OF JOE JOHNSON IM GUESSING THAT HIS CONTRACT WILL TURN OUT TO BE BAD NEWS FOR THE HAWKS IN THE LONG RUN..ONCE HIS FEET ( PLANTAR FACITAS OR WHATEVER IT IS) GIVE OUT ON HIM, HIS CONTRACT SITUATION WILL BE SIMILAR TO MICHAEL REDD’S IN MILWAUKEE, EDDY CURRY AND ALLAN HOUSTON IN NEW YORK..BOTTOM LINE JOE JOHNSON’S CONTRACT IS THE WORST EVER IN NBA HISTORY FROM THE OWNERSHIP POINT OF VIEW!!
lewis
December 8th, 2010
4:51 pm
If Joe’s elbow was preventing him from hitting open shots (which, i don’t know if yall’ve ever tried to shoot the ball with any pain of any kind arm related, it definitely affects your shot, even the smallest pain), and the surgery / time off allows him to come back legitimately healthy, we might be back up from not making the playoffs to second round out status.
LD’s flexibility with lineups lately seems to have given me a bit more vision and hope for the future
J from the A
December 8th, 2010
5:02 pm
@Sautee: Wizards cannot trade Henrich until next summer b/c they just acquired Henrich via trade this summer. If it wasn’t for that, I would be co-signing a trade for Henrich. He is a good combo guard that would bring some grit and would bring a respectable offensive game.
Here is a quick question, though: Teague vs. Lou Williams — if given a choice, all things considered (e.g, contract considerations, too), who would you rather have in a Hawks uniform?
ag
December 8th, 2010
5:05 pm
B4 everyone gets so happy about this lineup and how much better the hawks are going to be with Joe and Marvin coming off the bench, remember when Mo and Marvin were hurt, Drew used this lineup and the losing started.
J from the A
December 8th, 2010
5:12 pm
*hinrich
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2010
5:14 pm
I’ve never known a team to go far by altering their starting line-up every few days, but there is a first time for everything I guess.
There is NO requirement that a player stay with a team a full year after being acquired in a trade, Hinrich could be moved tomorrow. We just saw Bayless traded from Portland to New Orleans to Toronto in like 3 weeks.
That said, I doubt that Jamal gets traded given Joe’s injury. Too risky to deal that kind of proven scorer with another proven scorer recovering from surgery. The time to move Jamal was during the summer (when his value was at it’s peak).
J from the A
December 8th, 2010
5:18 pm
AJ,
You are right … I misread something earlier, but after seeing your post, I double checked it, and I was wrong. MY BAD. I guess I can get my Trade Machine on now!
lewis
December 8th, 2010
5:18 pm
Powell isn’t phenomenal or anything but he’s better than Zaza at everything short of drawing fouls.
He seems to be trying harder on D and his jump shooting typically works within the offense.
Rufus1
December 8th, 2010
5:30 pm
Time to start beleiving!!!!!!
Why we Win the EAST!
1)We now have size to compete with D12.
2)Josh has a jumpshot.
3)Al has elevated his game.
4)When JJ returns it will be like a midseason trade for the 3rd best SG in the NBA.
5)DID YOU SEE THE DEFENSE AGAINST THE MAGIC AND HEAT?
6)We now have a deep bench.(11 played against the Magic and 12 played against the Nets)
7)We now have a COACH!
8)The most important reason…………………The are starting to believe they are the best team in the EAST! I don’t want to hear about Boston, because the Hawks feel about Boston..Like the Magic feel about us.
lewis
December 8th, 2010
5:31 pm
“i’ve never known a team to go far by altering their starting line-up every few days, but there is a first time for everything I guess.”
i agree. which is why marvin should come off the bench from here on out and Collins should start.
Its a question of whether you want to be mismatched at the 5 or at the 3.
Is there a better chance defensively for Smoove on Paul Pierce or Horford on Shaq?
Is there a better chance defensively for Smoove on Rashard Lewis or Horford on Dwight?
Its going to be hard to conclusively set the line up.
we’re unable to determine whether Al is better at guarding bigger 5’s than Smoove is at guarding smaller 3’s. too many factors come into play.
lou hudson
December 8th, 2010
5:33 pm
For the 100th time, JJ is not the Hawks problem. It is Marvin; he’s an inconsistent player who hurts the team because of it. At this point, the only way Marvin can be moved is trading him with your #1 pick. Sadly, his game does not justify anyone trading a quality player for him. He is now a throw in with a #1 pick. Teague is NOT a NBA starting point guard. He has skills, but does not have the confident to lead a NBA team. Again, he is a throw in or a 2nd tier player for a 2nd tier player. ZaZa, unfortunately is nothing more than a banger and his time has past for him to develop into a solid starting center. He simply did not develop. Finally, Mo is no longer viable with Damien Wilkins and Pape as the future multi-use player. Now is the time to make trades to strenghen to team: Trade options
Steve Nash’s days are numbered in Phoenix; they have peaked with him at PG and are rebuilding. Josh Childress is a role player who will not be a featured player. Realistively, Steve Nash and Phoenix must accept no one will trade a young rising star for a fading star in the twilight of his career. However,in the short term Steve Nash could help a contender like the Hawks.
Steve Nash and Josh Childress for Bibby, Teague, Marvin, Mo or ZaZa, and next year’s # 1 pick. Phoenix gets a veteran PG with a tradable contract next year, a young PG, a potential label SF(he’s only 24), a cheap multi-use player with an expiring contract or a banger with decent contract(they need size), and most importantly a # 1 pick for rebuilding. Also, the contracts work for both teams.
The Hawks get a deseperately needed PG for at least two years and serivcable SF. This trade may allow the Hawks to offer Jamal 3yr/18-21 mil deal.
OR
Portland’s Pryzbilla and throw in player for Marvin and #1 pick. The jettinson Marvin and get a legitimate Center. Next year’s #1 pick is gone! Marvin has seen to that!
Boooo!
December 8th, 2010
5:50 pm
Trade Marvin for Iggy and Sign Tayshoun Prince (UFA) is the offseason. Then Re-sign JC1.
2012 Champs
Boooo!
December 8th, 2010
5:54 pm
Mo Williams and Anderson Varejeo are probably available now.
We could probably get them for Bibby, Mo and Marvin.
lewis
December 8th, 2010
5:54 pm
Marvin + Teague for Mo Williams
Marvin + Mo Evans for Mo Williams
Would rather live with Mo’s contract than Marvins, even tho he’s fairly useless
bonquesha
December 8th, 2010
5:55 pm
So I guess the million dollar question is who will adjust. I honestly felt that Joe was making more of an effort in the motion offense but LD was actually calling for those ISOs. If the team regresses upon his return, is it really his fault. From what I can tell, it seems they play harder without Joe. So, is it more of mentality amongst the supporting cast. I hope they can maintain their confidence and identity when Joe does return.
lewis
December 8th, 2010
6:10 pm
when Bibby/Jamal/Joe are in the lineup Al never gets shots.
If we are to succeed against good teams with that lineup, Jamal and Joe must learn to play better together within the offense.
Sautee
December 8th, 2010
6:24 pm
Oh boy, It’s NBA 2K10Live. I love it when the blog devolves into useless trade ideas. It’s not Fantasy guys.
And that’s beside the fact that unless Gearon WANTS a trade, it ain’t gonna happen. Fuggiddaboutit.
And the worst part? I started it today.
Sorry folks.
tony
December 8th, 2010
6:44 pm
JJ will destroy this team if they let him come back. I don’t know what you people see in this guy. I do not like his game – never have and it would be in everybody best interest to trade him. They should have cut him loose after he insulted the people(fans) who paids his salary.
Sign Jamal Crawford to a long term contract and send JJ along with JT to Washington for Kirk Hinrick and 1st or 2nd rd pick.