Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 80, Magic 74

Orlando–Ugly? Yes. Worthless? Depends on your perspective, I guess.

–”It was a bad basketball game and we played worse than they did,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said.

– You would think this kind of game would favor the Magic, who are the grinders to Atlanta’s runners. “It’s encouraging to see see guys stick with it and keep defending and keep rebounding,” Al said. “It was ugly but we’ll take it.”

– No use in the Hawks pretending was a normal December W.

– “I ain’t even going to lie to you,” Smoove said. “After losing in the playoffs by like an average of 30 points and playing good enough to win last time but coming up short, we was just determined to get a win here.”

– “Mentally this was a big boost for our guys,” L.D. said. “We’ve come up empty-handed here for a very long time. Last time we were close and we again came up empty-handed.”

– “It’s really big for us,” Bibby said.

– “It’s a good feeling,” Al said. “We’ve struggled against them in the past. We really fully committed to coach’s game plan.”

– A big part of that plan includes not scrambling the entire defense in an effort to slow down Dwight. Twin held his own and even had Dwight doing some of his whining to the refs.

- “Awesome,” L.D. said. “I thought [Collins] did a great job. We know what he’s about. He can play Dwight straight up. Dwight is going to score, we know that, but we wanted to make him earn it. It took us out of the double teams.”

Zaza also did a respectable job. Etan, not so much. Josh Powell even got a turn on Dwight and actually did OK.

– With Dwight pretty much in check without the need for doubles, the Hawks didn’t allow as much space “We did a good job of running them off the 3-point line and made the inside shots for Dwight harder,” Bibby said.

– You can say the Magic missed some open shots, which they did. But the same thing happened the last time they played Atlanta, too, so perhaps the Hawks at least figured out a blueprint they can believe in.

– No doubt the Hawks benefited from Jameer’s (ill) absence (and maybe the sickly Magic players, too). Keep this up and soon there are going to be more questions about whether they benefit from J.J.’s absence, too (or at least the version of J.J. we’d seen this season).

– They are 3-1 without him, the one loss a close one at Miami. “We try to distribute to the hot hand,” L.D. said. “We look for any matchup in our favor. We try to get more people included. We become a little less predictable.”

– Really, the iso late show has just shifted to Jamal. For the second straight game that was a mixed bag down the stretch. The Hawks led by five and were ready to pull away when he tried to force a runner in the lane that led to a turnover and Redick’s and-1.

– That’s when the Hawks turned to a better option: Josh jacking up jumpers. Seriously, what were the odds that the Hawks would win with Josh busting out a crossover, fadeway J in crunch time?

– Or that Powell, hardly explosive around the rim, would miss a point blank shot, somehow collect the rebound while surrounding by three Magic defenders including Dwight, and then draw a foul?

– The next big play of that stretch was much more probable: Bibby burying a 3-pointer. He made another one after VC blew by Josh for a couple layups. “Everybody hung in there,” he said. “Sometimes we get discouraged [when they don't make shots] but tonight we didn’t get discouraged.

– Bibby is quietly having a very good season which, considering his usual distaste for interviews, is probably the way he likes it. “He’s really played at a very, very high level,” L.D. said.

– Bibby played 21 minutes after halftime. “I asked him how he was feeling and he said he was fine,” Drew said. “In most situations I wouldn’t play him that much but I saw this as an opportunity to get the win. I decided to keep him out there and he came through.”

– Marvin started 0 for 5 from the field and all of those misses were ugly. He never did attack the basket. Marvin limped off just before halftime but started the second half.

– But wasn’t the only guy who couldn’t find his shot and wouldn’t go to the basket. Josh and Al were 16 of 31, everyone else 17 of 54. And you know the Hawks aren’t being aggressive when Bibby leads them with three free-throw attempts.

– Al sometimes seemed to eager to go at Rashard Lewis. Three of his four turnovers came as a result of trying to set up Lewis, who swiped at the ball.

– DNP-CD for Teague.

– The Magic weren’t exactly giving the Hawks much credit. “Even at 80 to 74, it wasn’t even a real hard-fought game,” Van Gundy said. “It was just a bad game and we were worse than they were.”

–”Atlanta is a pretty good team and guys were trying to get back into game shape playing,” Dwight said. “And the rest of guys were playing two tough games on the road and short-handed. I think a lot of guys are exhausted. It was a tough game to lose. It gave Atlanta a little confidence. But we’ll be sure to erase that next time.”

MC

339 comments Add your comment

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:25 pm

marvin is a bummmmm

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:25 pm

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:26 pm

James> Marvin.

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:26 pm

you know its time to rid marvin when josh shoots better than him

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:27 pm

ref told Josh that Brook was “too big, a grown man”

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:27 pm

2 team fouls already.

Make it three.

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:28 pm

with the way he’s shooting if Josh improves his perimeter defense.. he could easily stay @ 3.

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:30 pm

Marvin, stop standing around and being a spectator!

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:31 pm

How many assists does Josh have?

Hope Jamal comes back real soon. I wanna see how many points he can score.

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:32 pm

Put Jamal back in at the 2 in place of Marvin.

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:33 pm

harris to quick for bibby

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:34 pm

Josh has 4 assists. Felt Like more.

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:34 pm

“cleaner than the board of health”

-Bob

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:35 pm

wow joe and jamal smiling touching on each other

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:35 pm

LD said that Teague was going to play more because of Harris. He must really be in the dog house.

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:36 pm

It was called. Marvin out, Jamal in.

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:36 pm

French cuuffffffffffffffsss..

yeah..

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:36 pm

Jamal in for Marvin!

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:37 pm

all these wide open 3s

Melvin

December 7th, 2010
8:37 pm

I would really like to see LD give Teague extend mins tonight. Especially while the Nets have their regular rotation guys in there. He need the playing time…

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:38 pm

what great D

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:38 pm

The Highlight Factory!

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:39 pm

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:40 pm

Jason Collins playing some serious defence!

Play this guy more against big centers!

Sautee

December 7th, 2010
8:40 pm

Blast,

Josh has 4 ast.as does Jamal. Al has 6.

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:40 pm

Jason Collins is a new man this year. Can’t say anything bad about his effort.

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:41 pm

J.J.M.

c’mon son..

u know it wasnt any funny stuff going on son..

http://www.kickmag.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Ed_Lover-Cmon_Son.jpg

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:42 pm

scrappy Hawks.

Melvin

December 7th, 2010
8:42 pm

Josh got it going tonight…

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:43 pm

And some Hawks ‘fans’ says trade Josh Smith?

For who?

Lebrat?

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:43 pm

lmao@ ed lover…that dude is funny

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:45 pm

LD should leave Collins in for more minutes. Reward him for great effort.

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:45 pm

i was hoping for a blow out so we could see what Damien had offensively..

ZaZa trash.. more minutes for Collins..

stizz

December 7th, 2010
8:46 pm

I laugh to hard at the idiots who wanted to trade the heart and soul of the team in Smoove.

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:46 pm

yea zaza is to weak for the nba

bigdave

December 7th, 2010
8:46 pm

J.J.M

yea.. he is ..

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:47 pm

down to 10. Put them away.

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:47 pm

Please don’t bring Mo back in.

And take Zaza out!

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:48 pm

this game shouldnt even be this close

Rev in Tampa

December 7th, 2010
8:48 pm

Zaza’s jumpshot = brick
Zaza’s post move = block

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:52 pm

Al Horford!

Player of the year!!!

Most Improved Player in the League!!!!!!

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:53 pm

ill bring josh back in at the 7 min mark

pinoy hawk

December 7th, 2010
8:53 pm

Horford = BOSS

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:54 pm

mo evans needs to be traded

Najeh Davenpoop

December 7th, 2010
8:56 pm

Did Nique just call Johan Petro “Petrovic”?

northcyde

December 7th, 2010
8:56 pm

Great game by Smith and Horford and Jamal.

But I still think this game is a little too close. They’re one 8 – 0 run from getting back into this game. Hopefully we can make a few shots early, and put this game away.

J.J.M.

December 7th, 2010
8:56 pm

yea he did Najeh

Blast

December 7th, 2010
8:56 pm

Bring back the starters!

RethinkPossible

December 7th, 2010
8:58 pm

Zaza’s problem is focus….when he had it, he was a respectable player that earned his contract. He seems to has lost it, I think he might be spending too much time at Buckhead bottle bar.

Sautee

December 7th, 2010
8:59 pm

Blast,

As much as I like his game, I’m not ready to crown Horford yet. His rebounding is down from last year.