Orlando–Ugly? Yes. Worthless? Depends on your perspective, I guess.
–”It was a bad basketball game and we played worse than they did,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said.
– You would think this kind of game would favor the Magic, who are the grinders to Atlanta’s runners. “It’s encouraging to see see guys stick with it and keep defending and keep rebounding,” Al said. “It was ugly but we’ll take it.”
– No use in the Hawks pretending was a normal December W.
– “I ain’t even going to lie to you,” Smoove said. “After losing in the playoffs by like an average of 30 points and playing good enough to win last time but coming up short, we was just determined to get a win here.”
– “Mentally this was a big boost for our guys,” L.D. said. “We’ve come up empty-handed here for a very long time. Last time we were close and we again came up empty-handed.”
– “It’s really big for us,” Bibby said.
– “It’s a good feeling,” Al said. “We’ve struggled against them in the past. We really fully committed to coach’s game plan.”
– A big part of that plan includes not scrambling the entire defense in an effort to slow down Dwight. Twin held his own and even had Dwight doing some of his whining to the refs.
- “Awesome,” L.D. said. “I thought [Collins] did a great job. We know what he’s about. He can play Dwight straight up. Dwight is going to score, we know that, but we wanted to make him earn it. It took us out of the double teams.”
– Zaza also did a respectable job. Etan, not so much. Josh Powell even got a turn on Dwight and actually did OK.
– With Dwight pretty much in check without the need for doubles, the Hawks didn’t allow as much space “We did a good job of running them off the 3-point line and made the inside shots for Dwight harder,” Bibby said.
– You can say the Magic missed some open shots, which they did. But the same thing happened the last time they played Atlanta, too, so perhaps the Hawks at least figured out a blueprint they can believe in.
– No doubt the Hawks benefited from Jameer’s (ill) absence (and maybe the sickly Magic players, too). Keep this up and soon there are going to be more questions about whether they benefit from J.J.’s absence, too (or at least the version of J.J. we’d seen this season).
– They are 3-1 without him, the one loss a close one at Miami. “We try to distribute to the hot hand,” L.D. said. “We look for any matchup in our favor. We try to get more people included. We become a little less predictable.”
– Really, the iso late show has just shifted to Jamal. For the second straight game that was a mixed bag down the stretch. The Hawks led by five and were ready to pull away when he tried to force a runner in the lane that led to a turnover and Redick’s and-1.
– That’s when the Hawks turned to a better option: Josh jacking up jumpers. Seriously, what were the odds that the Hawks would win with Josh busting out a crossover, fadeway J in crunch time?
– Or that Powell, hardly explosive around the rim, would miss a point blank shot, somehow collect the rebound while surrounding by three Magic defenders including Dwight, and then draw a foul?
– The next big play of that stretch was much more probable: Bibby burying a 3-pointer. He made another one after VC blew by Josh for a couple layups. “Everybody hung in there,” he said. “Sometimes we get discouraged [when they don't make shots] but tonight we didn’t get discouraged.
– Bibby is quietly having a very good season which, considering his usual distaste for interviews, is probably the way he likes it. “He’s really played at a very, very high level,” L.D. said.
– Bibby played 21 minutes after halftime. “I asked him how he was feeling and he said he was fine,” Drew said. “In most situations I wouldn’t play him that much but I saw this as an opportunity to get the win. I decided to keep him out there and he came through.”
– Marvin started 0 for 5 from the field and all of those misses were ugly. He never did attack the basket. Marvin limped off just before halftime but started the second half.
– But wasn’t the only guy who couldn’t find his shot and wouldn’t go to the basket. Josh and Al were 16 of 31, everyone else 17 of 54. And you know the Hawks aren’t being aggressive when Bibby leads them with three free-throw attempts.
– Al sometimes seemed to eager to go at Rashard Lewis. Three of his four turnovers came as a result of trying to set up Lewis, who swiped at the ball.
– DNP-CD for Teague.
– The Magic weren’t exactly giving the Hawks much credit. “Even at 80 to 74, it wasn’t even a real hard-fought game,” Van Gundy said. “It was just a bad game and we were worse than they were.”
–”Atlanta is a pretty good team and guys were trying to get back into game shape playing,” Dwight said. “And the rest of guys were playing two tough games on the road and short-handed. I think a lot of guys are exhausted. It was a tough game to lose. It gave Atlanta a little confidence. But we’ll be sure to erase that next time.”
MC
339 comments Add your comment
Sautee
December 7th, 2010
7:45 pm
J.J.M.,
LOL, there are LOTS of players better than Marvin who fall well short of “great”.
bigdave
December 7th, 2010
7:46 pm
unfortunately Mo not giving u anything right now..
he cant hit a shot..
in my opinion his defense has always been aight.. overly aggressive, a walking foul..
Melvin
December 7th, 2010
7:46 pm
Sautee,
I guess LD heard you….
bigdave
December 7th, 2010
7:46 pm
lol @ 23-23 from the line..
YoDaddy
December 7th, 2010
7:46 pm
man we gettin beat down by NJ
L.R. Write
December 7th, 2010
7:47 pm
Is this some code you’re writing in. Do you not want us to know who it is you’re talking about, or do they teach this in journalism 101 these days. Are krytic for areason or are your readiers expected to do extra research to figure out who eton, twon etc are? Hawks A+ Your article F
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
7:47 pm
free throws been pretty bad
bigdave
December 7th, 2010
7:47 pm
other than Joe… id take Josh @ the line..
Teabagger Johnson
December 7th, 2010
7:48 pm
Have I missed a reason for Jordan Crawford not playing much, if at all? Or is he just being Teague’d?
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
7:48 pm
*sighs* teague
bigdave
December 7th, 2010
7:49 pm
wish we had a difference maker @ back up point..
YoDaddy
December 7th, 2010
7:49 pm
Are we serious right now??? Pick it up this is the NETS
bigdave
December 7th, 2010
7:49 pm
that was gonna be a nasty brick ..
Sautee
December 7th, 2010
7:50 pm
LOL, didn’t hear Marvin call “bank”.
Dept. of Unintended Irony
December 7th, 2010
7:52 pm
“Is this some code you’re writing in. Do you not want us to know who it is you’re talking about, or do they teach this in journalism 101 these days. Are krytic for areason or are your readiers expected to do extra research to figure out who eton, twon etc are? Hawks A+ Your article F”
Readiers…… those who are ready?
Your post – below F
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
7:52 pm
like i said lopez is a beast
YoDaddy
December 7th, 2010
7:53 pm
Teague just disappears on offense…talk about hiding in the corner
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
7:54 pm
lol marvin to lazy to dive on the ground and fight for the ball
Rev in Tampa
December 7th, 2010
7:54 pm
Nique – “Al Horford has fount his stroke this year”
YoDaddy
December 7th, 2010
7:55 pm
Did Bibby get hurt? Why is Teague playing so much
Melvin
December 7th, 2010
7:55 pm
Will Teague get an assist for that fumble….
Melvin
December 7th, 2010
7:56 pm
Why is ZaZa guarding Lopez out by the 3pt line…
pinoy hawk
December 7th, 2010
7:56 pm
where’s bibby? is he injured?
YoDaddy
December 7th, 2010
7:56 pm
Why the FRUCK is Zaza all the way up on Lopez on the 3 point line? Just not a smart play
bigdave
December 7th, 2010
7:56 pm
Brook a PF in a centers body..
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
7:56 pm
bibby foul trouble
bigdave
December 7th, 2010
7:58 pm
lol @ Al not boxing out on the Lopez free throw that Josh snatched out the air, or the last shot that gave Jersey possession..
Rev in Tampa
December 7th, 2010
7:58 pm
Bibby is a victim of the 2 foul rule.
YoDaddy
December 7th, 2010
7:58 pm
Crawford going for 40
Sautee
December 7th, 2010
7:58 pm
J.J.M.
Still want Lopez? One second on the clock and he dribbles. LOL!
Sautee
December 7th, 2010
7:59 pm
Lopez…. 7′0″, 13 minutes, 2 rebounds.
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
7:59 pm
yea i want lopez still
Rev in Tampa
December 7th, 2010
8:00 pm
If I were a post player on NJ I wouldn’t even try to box out when Jamal shoots. i would just start walking back down the court.
lewis
December 7th, 2010
8:01 pm
nique is a good guy but enough is enough, i propose a petition to get the stinger back
jamal at his best against scrub teams
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
8:02 pm
lmao etan made a shot?
lewis
December 7th, 2010
8:02 pm
and no new game thread whats up wit that
bigdave
December 7th, 2010
8:02 pm
dred stepping into one..
with confidence.. he was like.. shiiiiiii, this wet yall leave me if u want..
YoDaddy
December 7th, 2010
8:03 pm
finally we’ve started to dominate this game
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
8:03 pm
lmao@dread
Melvin
December 7th, 2010
8:04 pm
Jamal is pretty good at picking off those entry passes…
Blast
December 7th, 2010
8:04 pm
Twice Jamal has stolen that inbound pass.
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
8:04 pm
come on josh you know marvin cant catch them type of passes
Rev in Tampa
December 7th, 2010
8:07 pm
Josh going for 50
J.J.M.
December 7th, 2010
8:07 pm
lol that coach is getting on etan for swingging his elbows
Melvin
December 7th, 2010
8:08 pm
Nice 1st half by the Hawks. Not much to complain about. Even Ethan look good in his brief playing time…
Rev in Tampa
December 7th, 2010
8:11 pm
Josh is 3 for 3 from 3
Rev in Tampa
December 7th, 2010
8:12 pm
Opps. I looked at free throws. Josh is 2 for 2 from 3
cp
December 7th, 2010
8:15 pm
Jamal, Al, and Josh were all big in the first half. Hopefully they come out with the same energy and execution in the second half. I also hope that Mo Evans stays glued to the bench smdh
Fresh
December 7th, 2010
8:16 pm
Hawks should stick to the “big” lineup from here on out. This lineup can compete with anybody.
C – Collins – (Zaza/Etan)
PF – Al – (Josh Powell)
SF – Josh – (Wilkins)
SG – Joe – (Marvin)
PG – Bibby – (Jamal)
Rev in Tampa
December 7th, 2010
8:18 pm
JC2 did not get to dress out again tonight. Too bad because if it became a blowout I would love to watch him get some minutes.