Atlanta Hawks: Heat 89, Hawks 77

Hawks crashed back to earth against Heat. (AP Photo)

Hawks crashed back to earth against Heat. (AP Photo)

Miami– After this one Mo wasn’t in the mood to be proud about a near-miss against a good team while missing J.J.: “Another ‘moral victory’ but we had one of those against Orlando last time. Those don’t count for anything.”

– Add Phoenix, Utah, and Dallas to that list, too. The margin of error is slim for the Hawks against good teams and so far they haven’t proven they can make the handful of positive plays at winning time to get Ws.

– Or maybe more to the point they haven’t been able to avoid the negative plays that lead to these kind of losses. “We had some opportunities and we had a couple of missed assignments and a couple of turnovers in that fourth quarter, and then the game got away from us,” L.D. said.

– There was Josh Powell’s turnover that led to a layup by D-Wade that started a 7-0 run with the Hawks down 66-63. Smoove had a turnover during that run, too.

– The Hawks one last run at it when Jamal scored to cut Miami’s lead to 74-72 with less than five minutes to play. Bosh drew a foul on Smoove with a strong post move and made a free throw. Smoove came back at him with made a strong move of his own but couldn’t convert.

– Then came the unkindest cut for the Hawks: Bibby’s lax pass that Mario Chalmers (hardly a Super Friend) corralled to start a fastbreak that Wade finished.

– Then Jamal forced a shot that Joel Anthony blocked and Al was called for a foul. On Miami’s next possession, LeBron blew by Jamal as everyone else sort of watched him throw down some thunder.

– Obviously the Super Friends present a tough challenge. The Hawks recovered from an awful start with some inspired play in the third quarter sparked by Damien Wilkins, who just signed a day ago and might have immediately achieved folk hero status by effectively checking LeBron.

– But the Hawks have to lament the unforced errors that made it easier for Miami’s All-Star trio to finish them off at the end. “With them, you have to be very decisive with your plays because they will take the ball and go score the other way,” Jamal said.

– When Wilkins talked before the game about being aggressive and physical against LeBron and D-Wade and not backing down, I thought it sounded a bit ambitious. And then he went out and was aggressive and physical against LeBron and didn’t back down and it seemed to inspire his teammates to pick up their intensity.

– It’s just one game, but Al is sold: “I love that. I love his intensity. I love his toughness on defense. It’s something we need. I’m saying it now: I hope we keep him and he’s with us for the long run. A guy like that can be helpful.”

– LeBron didn’t score in the third quarter. Wade had seven points and Bosh four, Arroyo two and no other Heat players scored. “We went back to trusting each other and helping each other on defense,” Al said. “We have to do that all the time no matter who is out there.”

– This seemed to be another game where L.D.’s stated desire for defense and toughness was contradicted by lineup decisions that seemed to be based more on concerns about scoring. The lineup with Wilkins and Marvin stymied the Heat late in the third quarter but Drew went with Mo instead of either of those two down the stretch.

– L.D. said he considered finishing with Marvin or Wilkins. “There was some thought of that,” Drew said. “But when we got it to two, and with the guys that were in there, I just felt good about what we had in there. That’s not something I would second-guess myself over if I had to do it again.”

– To be fair, there were two mitigating factors for Drew to consider. Wilkins obviously doesn’t know all of the plays and coverages yet, and Drew said he thought Marvin’s energy was sapped on the back-to-back as he still works his way back from the knee injury.

– L.D. also stuck with his two-foul rule for Al. As a result, Horford had to fit a sensational game (22 points, nine rebounds, 10 of 11 shooting) into just 31 minutes. He had more than half of Atlanta’s production in the third quarter.

– Al has said he’s cool with L.D.’s approach to his fouls as long as his replacements are playing well. He stayed with that line of thinking. “I understand where Coach is coming from this game,” he said. “I thought that Josh Powell and Zaza came off the bench and did a good job. I was OK with it. Obviously it’s frustrating because you want to be out there but I understand Coach’s philosophy behind it.”

– The Hawks were 6 of 18 from the field in the fourth quarter with two assists. Mo seemed to suggest the problem was too much Iso-Jamal. “We were stagnant throughout the fourth quarter and a lot of the game,” he said. “They started to lock in on the one guy who was handling the ball a lot.”

MC

188 comments Add your comment

Tom

December 5th, 2010
12:24 am

The Real Truth

December 5th, 2010
12:30 am

Great job by Mo to call it like it is. Jamal was definitely hogging the ball too much down the stretch and I’m glad that Mo had the balls to call him out like that. If L.D. were a respectable coach, he’d address those types of issues, but this guy is too much of a coward to man up and admit his mistakes.

Once again, Drew acts as though the players just made mistakes down the stretch and completely ignores his poor decisions. Where is the accountability for the coach? Man up, L.D. I’m so sick of hearing this guy just pretend like he does everything right and team just doesn’t execute. His coaching was awful down the stretch tonight, and someone needs to come out and say it.

I’ve tried to cut this guy some slack but I’m tired of the letdowns due to his poor decisions. It’s one thing to lose when you play hard and play to your strengths and your opponents just outplay you, but it’s entirely different when your coach puts you in situations that set you up for defeat and take away your strengths. Enough of this all-knowing preacher. Let’s get a coach who actually knows what he is doing and who will own up to his mistakes.

JerryWest

December 5th, 2010
12:33 am

Drew won the last game and lost this one.

dstdeelite

December 5th, 2010
12:37 am

Why doesn’t LD just let Mo call all the plays? He knows everything. Dude, get a clue. You contributed ZERO IMO. Your would-be “dunks” were stuffed about 5 times. Get over yourself.

dstdeelite

December 5th, 2010
12:40 am

Let’s just put this out there: When they win, LD is COY. Otherwise, find a new coach? SMDH

Najeh Davenpoop

December 5th, 2010
12:46 am

From the previous blog:

“I’m not sure if your comment is hinting about the Hawks potentially picking Murray up, but if that’s the case, I have to wonder, would you really want to see another guy on the team whose greatest strength is isolation basketball? ”

Nah, I was just responding to the guy who suggested the Hawks trade for him. The last thing the Hawks need is another shoot first combo guard, at least until they trade Jamal.

ATL FAN

December 5th, 2010
12:46 am

LD lost us this game, no doubt. He held Al out for way too long and kept Mo in there for way too long. These guys are pro basketball players, they can handle having just a couple of minutes of rest LD!!

cp

December 5th, 2010
12:54 am

I dont like LD’s substitution patterns at all. I also hate the 2 foul rule. I used to hate it when Woodson did it. LD has to realize that ZaZa just aint got it. This dude is flat out terrible. Ive been saying for the last few blogs that Collins needs Pachulia’s minutes. Dude has terrible hands and cant finish at the rim even if he was there alone…I see Duck went right back to the invisible man. This was a game they could have and should have won. No more starting Mo. Dude usually has one good month out of the season and stinks it up the rest. I dont know who is worse at finishing at the rim, Mo, Duck, or Pachulia. If Jordan isn’t going to play then send the kid to the NBDL.

bonquesha

December 5th, 2010
12:55 am

Hmmm…it seems that everyone plays a lot harder when Joe is out. I hope they remember all this when he gets back. It would make winning so much easier.

Grandad

December 5th, 2010
12:55 am

The Real Truth

I was unable to see the game;
please elaborate?

“Jamal was definitely hogging the ball too much down the stretch and I’m glad that Mo had the balls to call him out like that”

ATL FAN

December 5th, 2010
12:58 am

Grandad,

It’s self explanatory.

Bailey

December 5th, 2010
1:03 am

For the record, I think that a lot of the complaints that I’ve read about L.D. on this blog so far have been consistent, regardless of whether the Hawks win or lose. People just don’t seem to be happy with his rotations or his foul management. I definitely agree that he’s made some questionable and some bad decisions, particularly down the stretch. I’m hoping that this is just a learning curve for him and something that he will do away with once he realizes what works for the team. However, one of my biggest worries is that L.D. will never own up to his mistakes and these annoying trends such as the two foul rule, giving extended minutes to bench players who clearly aren’t producing, and isolation plays for contested jumpers down the stretch will be around all season long. I hope that is not the case, otherwise, we are in for a very disappointing season.

Jody

December 5th, 2010
1:05 am

The Hawks are too small up front.

The Real Truth

December 5th, 2010
1:15 am

Grandad,

Basically, what we saw during the last few minutes of the game was a lot of the typical top-of-the-key, everyone clear out, 1. vs. 1. guard isolation that so many of us were so annoyed with last season. The only difference is that it was purely jamal this time around, not Joe and Jamal, nor Joe alone. Jamal attempted to break his man down and score on a long string of possessions while the Hawks were within 3 -10 points behind. As usual, the defense keyed in on this and as soon as Jamal got into the paint, he had 3 defenders around him and either missed his shot, had his shot blocked, turning the ball over, or making a bail-out pass at the last second. Needless to say, it didn’t work out very well.

Worst of all is the fact that the Hawks had had lots of success running the offense through Horford in the third quarter with pick-and-pops and pick-and-rolls, as well as hard drives to the basket, and yet, they seemed to totally abandon this idea, as well as any significant motion plays down the stretch. To me, it looks like Jamal trying to play hero basketball. I’m not sure if the blame goes more toward Jamal or L.D. for this though. We all know that Jamal’s most comfortable style is 1 vs. 1 isolation ,but at the same time, Jamal seems like the type of guy who will do what the coach asks him to do. He (Jamal) showed that in the Philadelphia game when he kept his shot selection and attempts under control and didn’t really isolate that often. This makes me think that it was likely Drew’s idea to run those isolation sets down the stretch.

As far as Mo Evans was concerned, L.D. decided to go with Mo down the stretch at the SF position, instead of Marvin. Needless to say, Mo wasn’t very effective, and was almost invisible on the offensive end, but to his credit, he didn’t have many opportunities, and the shots he took during the game were mostly contested.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 5th, 2010
1:16 am

The two foul rule is one thing, but sitting Al for half the fourth quarter and then not getting him touches after he re-enters is uncalled for.

Atlanta Fawkers

December 5th, 2010
1:23 am

Can we start trading for the future now? This team is once again a second round (at best) playoff team. Sorry Woody. It was not all your fault.

SUPERIORBLOGMAN

December 5th, 2010
1:27 am

I hardly post anymore because I am annoyed by how inferior and ignorant posters in the blogosphere are. Rather it is this site or peachtree hoops Atlanta Hawks fans just seem like they are ignorant to basketball facts and analysis.

Tonight Damien Wilkins showed what good man to man on ball defense was and how it could change a game. The Hawks fans have been fooled by Josh Smith’s highlight blocks to believe that his blocks equate good defense thus he should not be traded, but I have never seen Josh Smith fuel a comeback or change a game that was getting out of hand by challenging the other teams heart and biggest weapon. This once again proves that Josh Smith is overrated by people who don’t know basketball. Josh Smith is a cancer and is very overrated. He should be traded ASAP, it has been proven countless amount of times that Josh and Al are both PF’s. Al is the better and more stable player. A team with Josh Smith and his sissy way’s is not going to get any better because he is too stuck in his ways.

MsDee

December 5th, 2010
1:33 am

Im not sure why all yall are doggin LD’s decision making…I have no problem, and many other coaches in the league, with him pulling AL with 2 fouls early on in the 1st quarter. Horford is our ONLY smart and very affective center we have. If we loose him to early foul trouble, YALL WOULD TRULY BE ANGRY WITH HOW LONG LD KEEPS HIM OUT THE GAME..SO PICK YOUR POISON, you rather LD pull him with 2 fouls with the ability to put him back in or leave him out there to get 3 or 4 more and have him sit basically the rest of the game??? My only problem with him was not playing Damien ALL 4th quarter!! The dude was handling LeBron, and if yall noticed, Miami didnt really wake up til Lebron had that Monster Dunk in the 4th..after that, the Heat was playing crazy defense and caused us to get away from what was working and that was setting up AL. This, again, is why we need a SMART, VETERAN PG LIKE STEVE NASH!! The min LD would have call a play, when the game is on the line, for Josh Smith to post up when Josh obviously couldn’t throw a penny in the ocean, Nash would have IMMEDIATELY GONE WITH HIS VETERAN MENTALITY and told AL to get ready for a pick n pop for ya, cause NASH knows who is HOT(Horford) and who is NOT(Josh Smith)!!

James

December 5th, 2010
1:36 am

I’m not trying to be negative or disrespectful toward anyone when I say this, but sometimes I wonder if anyone who really matters cares what any of us on these blogs have to say. I mean, so often, people on here have a general agreement on what coaches or players should do, but I really doubt that those players or coaches are ever going to take the time to read what we have to say, or even if they do read it, actually take it into account. Sometimes, I just feel like I am wasting my time or venting for no reason on here, and it’s really disappointing. It’s like looking in from the outside, with no way of making an impact.

For example, I see a lot of people complaining about L.D.’s coaching decisions and his “2 foul rule”, and rightfully so, but I doubt L.D. could give a flying Hawk about what the bloggers think. He’s going to keep doing the same things regardless of what we type in here.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t post. By all means, keep posting. I like reading what people have to say, but outside of debate and conversation amongst bloggers for entertainment, it’s kind of depressing to me to think that people who are actually involved in the NBA and what goes on could care less what we think or say about them on blogs.

MsDee

December 5th, 2010
1:46 am

@SUPERIORBLOGMAN,

I couldn’t agree more..at 1st, I was gun-ho on keeping Josh Smith NO MATTER WHAT but I’m starting to see that Josh actually could be replaceable. I would do what it takes to get a guy like Nash here BUT ONLY with the exception we get Nash, Hedo, and a draft pick for Josh Smith and Jamal..not sure if the money make sense but just saying…

MsDee

December 5th, 2010
1:49 am

@James,

Trust me, those guys are reading the blogs..they just dont care to change anything about themselves even if some of us fans are really making sense about their game.

Ron

December 5th, 2010
1:53 am

MsDee,

I’m okay with coaches taking out their starting bigs when they pick up two fouls early in the second half, but only when the situation calls for it and the risk is smaller than the reward. Tonight definitely was not the case. L.D. didn’t assess the situation correctly at all. If we were close in the game or had a lead when Al picked up that second foul, it would have probably been okay to sub him out, if we had bench guys that could continue to produce while he was out, but that was far from tonight’s scenario. In the case tonight, we were already down close to double-digits when Horford picked up that foul and the bench had played poorly up to that point. It was a much greater loss to take out Horford and get down by an even larger amount than take the gamble and stick with Horford to try and make up some ground. The worst case scenario would have been for Horford to pick up a third foul in that first half, which is highly unlikely, considering Al usually tones it down when he picks up two. Al is a smart player, and I think L.D. needs to start trusting him more.

Even if Al would have picked up that third foul, he would have been able to play without constraints in the third quarter with 3 fouls, and couldn’t have played less than than he already did in the game tonight even if he would have had 3 fouls. On the opposite side of that, the Hawks may have been close to tied with the Heat by the end of the half if L.D. would have stuck with Horford. I can almost guarantee that other coaches, whether rookie or veteran, would have stuck with their star big man in that situtation, when they knew what was at stake and the way the game was going. L.D. caused us to dig yet another hole with that move. Horford almost dug us out of that hole, single-handedly, in the third quarter with the help of some good playmaking by Bibby and some lockdown defense from guys like Damien Wilkins. However, after those players got us back into it, L.D. got the team back out of the game by going with a lineup featuring extremely weak perimeter defense, and almost pure isolation on the offensive end.

On another note, just as Najeh mentioned earlier, it’s one thing to take Al out early in the first half with two fouls, but it’s really not necessary to sit him for long stretches in the fourth quarter when the game is getting out of hand. That’s just bad coaching, plain and simple. I don’t see anything positive in that. I really don’t think Al was so fatigued that he had to sit for the end of the third and halfway through the fourth quarter. He’s 24 years old and doesn’t log heavy minutes as it is, he looked like he had plenty of energy even when he was taken out. I just really disliked what L.D. did down the stretch, and I hope that he makes the correct adjustments in the future and rewards guys who deserve minutes, like Damien Wilkins. You should never completely abandon something that is working great for you for something that has mixed results, even if you feel more comfortable with the mixed results approach.

Section 303

December 5th, 2010
1:56 am

As good as the 2nd half was, I don’t see much to be happy about here. The Hawks came out with little energy. They then found some energy, but played too sloppy and missed to many easy shots to really be a factor. They make their rising, cut it to two, but then totally fade. The last 4-minutes were brutal. No one could finish anything.

Josh Smith and Marvin were terrible on offense. Josh took the ball up very weak when he finally did attack the basket. Most of the game he just settled for jumpers. Marvin just sucks. He is a bad basketball player.

Just can’t beat good teams. And, the Hawks fold in the clutch, as per usual. No quality wins….really not much to be happy about at all.

Miles D

December 5th, 2010
2:19 am

Really hate to say it…but its time to shop “Smoove!” Seven years in this thing and he just doesn’t CONSISTENTLY provide us with what we need game in, game out! Valiant effort by Al but he can’t do it by himself! Josh spends way to much time arguing and complaining instead of playing smart, physical basketball! Seems to me he only gets a hard on when its against subpar competition! But when we play top teams hes not aggressive and only wants to complain about fouls! Tonite, and like many others that we lose, we lost cause we didn’t have much inside presence and Josh failed AGAIN to provide us with ANY physical toughness. Yet, he sets up out on the perimeter shooting 3’s when he doesn’t have a consistent post game at the PF position, unbelievable! He clearly doesn’t WANT TO GET IT! He clearly doesn’t understand what REAL leadership is. Its more than being a rah, rah guy! Or, flexing your muscles when things are going your way! AGAIN, SEVEN YEARS IN THIS THING AND NO POST GAME!! TIME TO GET RID OF HIM!!! Al is already better, more consistent, has a winning attitude, and the REAL leadership qualities to build around! I wish Josh the best but he’s just to immature and problematic for us!!! And GREAT D by Damien! Another note! We make our comebacks when no. 5 is on the bench! That Hawks fans says alot! Arguing with coaches, teammates, pouting in public….BYE JOSH! Instead of getting back at the competition who fouled em’ cry to the refs and bark at teammate for their mistakes when he ain’t gettin the job done!! Enuff! GOOD RIDDANCE!

Grandad

December 5th, 2010
2:34 am

The Real Truth

Thanks, I don’t miss many.
I appreciate your insight.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 5th, 2010
2:37 am

“I’m not trying to be negative or disrespectful toward anyone when I say this, but sometimes I wonder if anyone who really matters cares what any of us on these blogs have to say. ”

They probably don’t care, and for the most part they shouldn’t.

The people who should be reading these blogs and taking note are Rick Sund and the DASG, since they are in charge of the short term and long term direction of the franchise, and if they would read these blogs they would understand why fans are dissatisfied and attendance is spotty instead of just continuing to parrot their “we like our core” line.

But as for LD and the players? Hell no, they shouldn’t be reading these blogs. I would like to think LD (and for that matter even Woody) knows a hell of a lot more about the game than any of us do, and if not it’s Sund’s job to find someone who does. I mean, for crying out loud, EVERY TIME Smoove has a bad game people whine that he needs to be traded, never mind that he is primarily responsible for most of the wins this team has so far this season. For every player on the Hawks, there is at least one blogger who thinks they suck and one blogger who thinks they are good. If the players and coaches read these blogs (which apparently Jamal does) they would drive themselves crazy.

darrell starks

December 5th, 2010
2:38 am

Jody i cosign the hawks are 2 small up front, yes i agree and wonder if they ever read the post of the bloggers because majority of them make a hole lot of sense, for year this organzation refuse 2 get solid big man in the middle and move horford 2 power forward but yet they continue 2 do the samething, ASG are failing bad as you can see with economy getting worst and no 1 are showing up at the games it’s imperative they sell the team now or hawks will slowly be a team that will sink 2 the bottom.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

Miles D

December 5th, 2010
2:41 am

Hawks fans LD is a good coach! Its his first year so, hes got some things to improve on like everyone else in our organization! Only gripe we should have is coach not abjusting the lineup to match the oppositions strenghts! Clearly our vets need to play more! We need more of their leadership ON THE COURT! Coach also, needs to send a message to the guys that their are no favorites and playing time is available for anyone who EARNS IT AND NOT BY HOW MUCH YOU MAKE! And play the rookie more! Especially when the offense gets stagnant! But other than those issues coach has to experience his growing pains too, but I’m riding with him though! LETS GO HAWKS!

Najeh Davenpoop

December 5th, 2010
2:44 am

Still only one quality win on the season — the win over the Pacers.

Jamal and Marvin for Prince and Ben Wallace would still do this team some good.

darrell starks

December 5th, 2010
2:45 am

ASG must sell the hawks, but i guess there trying 2 hold on and see will player take less in next year salary negotation.

Wow football and basketball lockout before 2012 something is getting ready 2 happen and the owners no LOL!!!!!!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

December 5th, 2010
2:49 am

THE HIGH LIGHT FACTORY IS NOW CALL THE EMPTY FACTORY.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

Section 303

December 5th, 2010
2:49 am

Najeh, I think I agree with you on that trade. I just hate giving up Jamal Crawford, though. Would rather make it Teague and Marvin. Maybe the Pistons want a crappy backup for Stucky?

Prince would be a guy who would not fold down the stretch. Wallace might bring an edge and toughness that is really missing on the Hawks.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 5th, 2010
4:03 am

Ideally, I’d rather not give up Jamal, either. But the bottom line is that with Jordan Crawford ready to step into his role after this season and with the quality and depth issues the Hawks face at SF and at the big man positions, not only is Jamal a valuable trade chip, but the Hawks really don’t have much else they can trade. I’d love to see Teague, Marvin, Zaza, etc. shipped out for quality players in return with Jamal staying a Hawk, but realistically that’s not likely to happen.

vava74

December 5th, 2010
4:12 am

Wallace is a completely washed up banger, who happens to be… UNDERSIZED (6′9”)

If he were with us you guys would be complaining 9/10 games about him.

We have to accept that the season is long and there is a learning curve and that life without JJ is much more difficult. Last night with JJ we would have had a very good chance of winning.

So far LD has improved some areas and has made some interesting and bold decisions, like benching Josh and relying on Powell’s offense keeping the hot hand in play.

There were also some poor decisions by LD and tonight there was a good example since Wilkins was so successful against Lebron that he should have kept him for the 4th quarter and I believe that Teague should have gotten more minutes against Chalmers.

Jamal proved again that his “clutchness” is overrated and that his ISO play is less effective than JJ’s.

Nonetheless LD has proven, IMO that he is a much better coach than Woody. A good example was the play that gave the 2 + 1 to Al against Philly (and the above mentioned decisions).

I really think that Damien could be a very important piece for us in the future and taking in consideration what he did against Lebron we may have found a perfect replacement for Mo.

Mo is clearly struggling, with a great probability of his knee being the cause.

Whenever he was called to fill in as a started last year and the year before, he always produced very well. Just check his stats as a starter.

Everyone has off games and bad patches and these guys are still learning how to mesh all things new that have been incorporated.

Provided that we keep ourselves within striking distance (#4/#5 seed) I think we will evolve as a team with JJ out, then struggle a bit to incorporate him back and the finish really strong.

With JJ, Marvin, Damien, Mo and Teague we now have 5 players who keep themselves in front of perimeter players and that fact will improve our defense and our rebounding automatically.

lewis

December 5th, 2010
5:53 am

Best play of the game – Al ripping down Lebron

drmaryb (*_*)

December 5th, 2010
6:38 am

Jon B.

Say whatever you need. That was a winnable game. These Hawks start games like they are still on the Bus! Real Centers play in the Paint and DOMINATE!

Al is a terrific PF and is the hardest working team guy we have.
But, we have NO SIZE in the post and Dwight eats our lunch in the POST.
No penetration on this team PERIOD!

You pull the stats IF you want to claim our PG & C was great last night! I don’t care to waste my time after seeing what I saw. A ton of missed lay-ups, too many bigs taking jumpers. No rebounding and too many T.O.’s is what I saw.
I didn’t see Horford shooting any jump hooks or make any low post moves dominantly. All jumpers! A few Jumpers is great but 9 for 10 is too many baskets far away. What happened to driving and finishing at the rim for And-1’s?

Blame Sund for not making ANY off-seasons move! Blame the players for NOT executing and then Blame the Coach if you want.

Phil Jackson couldn’t win with this team either, he wouldn’t even come here for this! They won The Obrien Trophy with talent! Not coaching!
Coaches need players! We ain’t got no PG nor size in the paint! Regardless of what system we play, we don’t have the right players.
We lose at home now and are 1-10 against good teams!
We only beat Indiana so far, with and W/O Joe!
That is a personnel issue regardless of who is coaching.
Look at that bench! Its turrible! LOL!
I’m done watching this garbage! Blame sund! There was talent available to help this team and ASKG ignored that! This is NOT an elite team!

Damien Wilkins was AWESOME! A keeper! This wasn’t LDrew’s best game, the Ref’s were awful, but these players have to START theses games with energy and make plays and not turn the ball over. I saw no Motion!

drmaryb (*_*)

December 5th, 2010
6:46 am

Lewis

But he helped him up? That negated the tuffness on that play!
Zsa would have stepped on him.

drmaryb (*_*)

December 5th, 2010
6:53 am

Inside Peanut Butter – Outside Jelly!

If our BIGS played inside, create contact, play aggressive IN THE DAMNED PAINT for once? Maybe we make the REFS call some fouls!

This whole team is shooting JUMPERS! Let the guards do that!
All Bigs should be inside for offensive rebounds! Say what you will about Zsa at least his big butt is in the PAINT! Too bad he and Marvin can’t FINISH a lay up or DUNK! Draw contact and get fouls!

This is a terrible team w/o Joe in there. Play Jordan – Puh-Lease!

drmaryb (*_*)

December 5th, 2010
7:03 am

Sex in The City!

I don’t know ’bout yall? But, these young guys are out on the town ’sniffin draws!
Drew, said No Energy 2 weeks ago & He doesn’t know what they are doin’ the night before games:

Josh is focused on his wife?
Marvin dating Elle Duncan?
Joe chasing strippers?

What is Zsa doing at night?

This team needs to get some professional basketball players in here!
Too much Velvet – Room?

Everybody seems to be doing their own thang!
Jamal is sulking for a contract?
Never seen Etan Thomas play.
Never seen Pape Sy practice, much less PLAY?

What is really going on?

These players LOVE Atlanta, but for the love of basketball – what arte they doing to win some games? Fire Askg! Fire Sund! Make a trade please!

hawks_4_life

December 5th, 2010
7:04 am

Oh brother, let me guess the sky has fallen. SMH

Fundamentals

December 5th, 2010
8:46 am

I feel like we came out flat, assuming we would definitely lose. Once they weathered the storm we got right back into it, only to lose our confidence late. Still not a full 48 of 100%, and thus a loss.

JeJe

December 5th, 2010
9:03 am

I am EXTREMELY disappointed in the substitution patterns for tonight.

Mo Evans playing all those minutes in the 4th? WTF? THE GUY GETS ALL HIS SHOTS BLOCKED AT THE RIM.

DAMIEN WILKINS WAS PLAYING MAGNIFICENT LOCKDOWN DEFENSE ON A TOP 3 PLAYER IN THE NBA ON MULTIPLE POSSESSIONS. WHY THE HELL WAS HE NOT IN IN THE 4TH QUARTER? IT DOES NOT MATTER IF HE DOES NOT KNOW THE OFFENSIVE SYSTEM. MO EVANS BRINGS NOTHING TO THIS OFFENSIVE SYSTEM.

MARVIN, BIBBY, AND SMOOVE: WHAT THE HELL DID U GUYS DO TONIGHT? MARVIN THAT WAS FREAKING HORRENDOUS. YOU ARE GOD AWFUL

WE COULD HAVE WON THIS DAMN GAME. THEIR STARTERS’ CHEMISTRY DOES NOT IMPRESS ME.

WE COULD HAVE WON THIS DAMN GAME.

LET DAMIEN WILKINS PLAY. THE GUY IS HUNGRY AS HELL AND SHUT DOWN AND PISSED OFF THE 2ND BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD

GOD DAMNIT

JeJe

December 5th, 2010
9:22 am

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE PLAYS AMAZING DEFENSE ON LEBRON, YET DOESN’T PLAY A SECOND IN THE 4TH.

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT MO EVANS DID FOR US IN THE 4TH QUARTER.

DREW PULLED A WOODY LAST NIGHT. HE REFUSED TO USE SOMEONE WHO WAS BEING EFFECTIVE LATER IN THE GAME.

AND I AM NOT SCARED OF MIAMI. THEIR ENTIRE STARTING 5 IS JUST ISOS AND ISOS. THEY ARE BETTER OFF WITH 2 OF THE BIG 3, NAMELY WADE AND BOSH IN THE BEGINNING OF THE 2ND AND 4TH. THAT’S WHEN THEY PLAY BETTER IMHO

PLAY DAMIEN WILKINS
AND MARVIN WAKE UP ALREADY

JeJe

December 5th, 2010
9:28 am

IT DOESN’T APPEAR TEAGUE IS THE FUTURE PG OF THIS TEAM. FIRE SUND

AND LET DAMIEN PLAY DAMNIT. BENCH MO FOR BEING USELESS. HOW MANY TIMES DOES HE GET STUFFED AT THE RIM?

JeJe

December 5th, 2010
9:33 am

THIS TEAM IS TOO DAMN SOFT. NO ONE COMMITS HARD FOULS. THE ONLY POTENTIALLY HARD FOUL LAST NIGHT WAS HORFORD ON LEBRON AND HE IMMEDIATELY HELPED HIM UP

WHERE IS THE FIRE ON THIS TEAM?

JeJe

December 5th, 2010
9:37 am

dr mary b, what’s this about Joe chasing strippers?

JeJe

December 5th, 2010
9:40 am

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF JOE IS BEST BUDS WITH LBJ OR WADE? WHAT IS THIS ENTOURAGE OF JOE’S EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT?

AND I SAW JOE KNOCKED UP A STRIPPER – MY BAD

ant banks

December 5th, 2010
9:41 am

i wonder what avery johsnon is thinkin’ now that he turned down the atl job for the garbage azz nets. lol.

tjhook

December 5th, 2010
9:44 am

Ok, I have a suggestion: how would everyone feel about a trade for Mo Williams?! He’s not my favorite player but he might fit more of what drew’s offense needs- a penetrator and shooter who doesn’t need the offense to go through him. Also, a player with some defensive prescence. I think we may be able to trade only Marvin to get him but they may ask for Jamal. Give me some thoughts.

JustAThought

December 5th, 2010
9:52 am

Noooooooooo……….let Marvin stay sleep (he plays like he don’t want to be here anyway), and let DW have his minutes. Marvin’s a big bust here (he may pan out somewhere else), but management cannot/should not be afriad to trade his sorry ass. For whatever reason, some guys just don’t work out, and all this waiting for a guy to come around can hurt a team more. Somewhere on another team, is a guy (it might be DW) who is having a hard time just like Marvin, that might benefit from a change. It’s the GM job to get on the horn and work out a deal.