Atlanta Hawks: Nets 107, Hawks 101 (OT)

This was not good for the Hawks. (US Presswire)

This was never good for the Hawks. (US Presswire)

Newark, N.J.–There’s not been much in between for the Hawks when they lose. They have seven Ls and they’ve all happened in two basic ways: Surrender from the start, or falter at the end.

– This one was in the latter category, and what does it say about the Hawks that losing in a competitive effort at New Jersey represents progress? That’s how it goes when you show any life at all the night after melting down to the Celtics.

– Better effort, but it’s still a loss. That’s three in a row and seven in nine games since the the 6-0 start. Can’t use the good opponent crutch for this one, either.

– “As long as we stay together, we will be all right,” said Bibby, stoic as always. “You lose some games. You can’t win all 82. We’ve got a lot of games left. We can’t get down.”

– You had to figure Atlanta’s tendency to earn tightrope Ws in these road games against also-rans would eventually go bad. Unfortunately for them, it happened the night after the Celtics debacle.

– “The effort was there,” Jamal said. “It just didn’t go our way. We expended so much energy getting back in the game we didn’t have enough to finish.”

– The Hawks rallied to force overtime after trailing by 10 in the third quarter. They never could take the lead because once they got close in the fourth quarter they traded baskets and turned over the ball.

– “It was difficult [to lose] when you fight that hard after that game last night,” L.D. said.

– Too bad for the Hawks it took them until the second quarter to find some fight. The Nets led 31-21 after a quarter because they had clear passage to the basket and exploited one of their two clear mismatches, feeding Brook Lopez for 15 points on 5 of 7 shooting.

– “We did everything we could to give Al help on Lopez,” L.D. said.

Jason Collins and especially Zaza provided some resistance for Lopez after the opening period. Then the inevitable happened and Devin Harris started zigging and zagging around Atlanta’s guards while scoring 23 points after halftime.

– “Harris has always been a tough guard for us because of his speed and quickness,” Drew said. “They run a lot of pick-and-rolls for him. He’s clever with the ball, shifty with the ball. He knows how to create contact. When he’s making his jump shot he’s difficult to stop.”

– The Hawks went retro with some Iso-Joe and Jamal. It was a mixed bag. They rallied behind a combined 14 points on 5 of 6 shooting from those two in the fourth quarter. But costly turnovers by both cost them possessions when the game was there to be taken late in regulation.

– “I wanted Jamal and Joe to be aggressive,” L.D. said.

– Josh took 21 shots and missed 12. Lots of jumpers in that tally.

– Joe continues to be miserable on 3-pointers. He did grab six rebounds. No glove tonight.

– Marvin made 3 of 4 shots, including a 3 that got Atlanta within 70-67 at the end of the third. But he had just two rebounds in 24 minutes on a night when Al and Smoove needed all the help they could get.

– Zaza (six rebounds in 11 minutes) lended a hand. He was strong in keeping Lopez off the boards and even frustrated him a couple times.

– It was one thing for Harris and Lopez to get theirs. Anthony Morrow made a couple key open 3-pointers in the fourth, but let that slide because Farmar and Harris broke the Hawks down off the dribble to set him up.

– But Kris Humphries getting 12 points and 14 rebounds by basically being physical and persistent? That’s just not cool.

– The Hawks were griping a bit about the free-throw disparity (33-13) and it’s true they didn’t get a couple calls when things got tight at the end. Josh appeared to get hacked on two straight possessions when they were down 93-88.

– But the Nets weren’t getting calls by that point, either, and they earned those 19 attempts in the first half.

– The Hawks squandered chances to take control early in the fourth quarter. They were down 72-69 when Teague and Jamal had turnovers on consecutive possessions. Jamal’s came after a timeout; his pass for Al in the post was off the mark.

– Another Teague turnover led to Morrow’s 3-pointer to make it 80-77 and Morrow made a second 3-pointer after Crawford threw away a pass following a Hawks timeout.

– Joe was so intent on bullying Harris to the basket he got called for a travel with the Hawks down 91-88.

Avery Johnson has two talents in Lopez and Harris and a top prospect in Favors. He’s got the rest of the Nets playing scrappy ball.

– “I’ve been saying all along how much I love this team,” Avery said. “I love working with them on a day in and day out basis and you can see why. The team played their heart out, and they really deserved to win tonight. Nothing against Atlanta, they’re a great team, but we deserved to win.”

– “They are definitely not the same team as last year,” Jamal said.

– As for the Hawks, well . . . ah, nevermind.

– “We just have to keep working,” L.D. said. “We can’t feel sorry for ourselves. Throughout the season you are going to have ups and downs. You have to learn how to handle adversity and it makes you stronger.”

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

208 comments Add your comment

Ramon

November 23rd, 2010
11:45 pm

Repost from other blog

Josh and Joe are the only defensive minded players on this team. Joe shot isn’t falling, But he’s still playing great man to man defense. That is overlook when his shooting is failing. I would rather have a roster with players who can stop you from scoring 90 points any given night, over a line up that can score 110 any given night. However, LD seems to feel differently.
It frustrates me game after game, seeing LD go with a lineup of Bibby, JC1, Joe, Josh, Al. No matter how many points this lineup may create. It is almost a foregone conclusion that this lineup will give up more points. Tonight, Teague actually played pretty well. His defense on Harris lead to the Nets going scoreless for long stretches at time. However, in the fourth quarter, LD stuck with his offensive lineup, although the major problem was New Jersey’s back court scoring.
This isn’t the first game in which LD has made such substitution patterns. And LD says he will hold players accountable on the defensive end, yet I still don’t see it. How can you make that statement, and Mike Bibby still records 35 minutes while only having 3 assists, and 5 shot attempts. While the opposing PG goes for 27 and 10 assists. To make it worse, Teague, in limited play, had a +9 tonight. Teague had 2 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals in only 16 minutes. And kept Harris from making so many shots.
I’m beginning to wonder did we trade an all defensive, no offense minded coach for an all offensive, no defense minded coach? When will we have a coach who values both? And doesn’t compromise nor simply makes the easy call?
Also how did JC2 manage to not get a single minute in this game?
One last question, does a half priced coach, get you half priced coaching?
Samuel
November 23rd, 2010
11:31 pm
Told Yall.
Woody>LD
Ramon
November 23rd, 2010
11:39 pm
Samuel, you may be right. However, that doesn’t mean much about Woody, it just describes LD. Saying your D- minus child is better than my F child, may make you feel better. But fact is both of our kids are heading to summer school.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
11:58 pm

8-1 against bad teams, 0-6 against good teams.

rusty

November 24th, 2010
12:05 am

ramon get your eyes examined jj is not a great defensive player.players easily drive around him while he jabs at them ,he cant stay in front of any one who is quick.he makes very little effort goeing after loose balls. two times in this game he was front of harris who was on a fast break,he just let him go by without even trying to stop him. i also looked at it in slo motion, he made no effort at all

Brad

November 24th, 2010
12:09 am

I disagree about Joe’s defense, Ramon. I didn’t see tonight’s game, but for the last several games Joe has looked slow and lazy on D. He has really been disappointing to me this season in pretty much every area.

gcs

November 24th, 2010
12:09 am

Larry Drew = BUM

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Patrick

November 24th, 2010
12:12 am

People used to complain about the way Woodson handled his interviews after a loss or a series of losses because he really didn’t seem to care much and gave a lot of short answers. Well, L.D. is looking no better in that regard. Early on, he pretended like he knew exactly what to do and had a grand plan, but it’s become pretty clear that most of that was all talk. As the season has gone on, he’s reverting back to Woodson’s old ways more and more, and the team is having less and less success. L.D. calls out his players a lot after these losses, which is fine to some extent, but he should be calling out himself for his poor strategy. The accountability should apply to everyone, and right now, it really doesn’t apply to anyone, not to anyone important or anyone who plays regular minutes, anyway.

Worst of all, the team and coach seem to think that everything is all right. L.D. mentions that “Throughout the season you are going to have ups and downs. You have to learn how to handle adversity and it makes you stronger”. Well, it doesn’t look like they have been many ups so far at all. Also, in regards to adversity making the team stronger, it sure doesn’t look like that’s the case. Maybe with another team, and another coach, but with this team, the adversity seems to only make things worse. There are problems that run deep here. Not only among the players, and I mentioned in the last blog whom I think the culprits are, but also in the coaching staff (L.D.). Things need to change fast if the Hawks are going to get back on track.

K.W.

November 24th, 2010
12:19 am

It’s really starting to get OLD hearing the same thing over and over “We have to keep working” and etc. STOP TALKING ABOUT IT, BE ABOUT IT!

Ramon

November 24th, 2010
12:23 am

Rusty and Brad, both of you say this only a week after Joe contained D. Williams for an entire game? A 6′7 wing man contained the best PG in the league for a game. What better perimeter defense do you need than that?

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 24th, 2010
12:34 am

Exactly@K.W.

Its tiring hearing those same lines from players. The lined where they are BSing themselves are even worse.

“As long as we stay together, we will be all right,” said Bibby

…..alright in what way? The same team that that was at the mercy of elites in the 2nd round the last couple years. The same team that hasnt beat ONE good team 15 games into the season???????

Screw that comment by Bibby.

Moves need to be made!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 24th, 2010
12:43 am

I think it’s telling that today on Around the Horn and PTI, a lot of airtime was given to discussing the latest Heat collapse at the Pacers, but the Hawks’ debacle last night wasn’t even mentioned. The Hawks’ struggles are not even surprising. What do you expect from a team that suffers the worst second-round defeat ever and responds by standing pat with the roster and replacing the head coach with his assistant?

Sorry Ken Strickland, but it ain’t looking too good.

Section 303

November 24th, 2010
1:15 am

Will the NBA just save us all the trouble and start the Lockout right now. The season is over for the Hawks anyways.

What a miserable bunch of a$$holes. Apathy is really starting to set in. Proud to say that I did not watch 1-minute of tonight’s game.

Alsandair

November 24th, 2010
1:28 am

Just get rid of Joe Johnson,some kind of way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blood in the water

November 24th, 2010
1:48 am

Drew may be in over his head – clock management at the end of games doesn’t seem to be one of his strong points and it’s gotta be one of the toughest things for new head coaches to master – it appears also that nepotism trumped experience in his selection of assistant coaches – the sharks may start circling pretty soon

Von

November 24th, 2010
1:56 am

Check out this fan post on Peachtree Hoops:

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2010/11/23/1831754/time-to-trade-josh-smith

It gives an interesting take on what might be the biggest problem for the Hawks right now.

L-QUE

November 24th, 2010
2:19 am

AS DEPRESSING AS IT IS MOST BLAME SHOULD GO TO SUND. ITS NOT THAT THE HAWKS HAVE GOTTEN BAD .OTHER TEAMS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER ,PLAYERS AND CHEMISTRY A PLAY OFF TEAM ADDS VETERAN PLAYERS CHICAGO,ORLANDO,BOSTON,MIAMI,LAKERS,DALLAS ,BUCKS,SUNS,BUT NOT ATLANTA SCRUB COACH & ROOKIES NO QUALITY POINT NO BIG HELP. TEAMS ARE TERRORIZING OUR UNDER SIZE BIGS WITH NO HELP IN SIGHT, TO LOOSE THE GROUND WE HAVE GAINED WE MUST WE MUST MOVE NOW NOT A ONE YEAR WONDER BUT PLAYERS FOR THE FUTURE ,THE HAWKS SHOULD HAVE MADE THE DETROIT&SAC. TRADES THOMPSON AND PRINCE -STUCKY IS AVAILABLE ERIC DAMP. SIGNED WITH THE HEAT WE LOST OUT ON JARRETT JACK. MELLO IS NOT THE ANSWER .TIME FOR A ATTACK POINT GUARD EVERY TEAM THAT BESTED US HAD TWO OR THREE .THERE ARE PLENTY OF SPACE TAKING SEVEN FOOTERS OUT THERE. TWO SEVENS TONIGHT, TWO WITH BOSTON, TWO EACH TEAM WE HAVE LOST TO AND CONTINUE TO LOSE TO. AL, JOSE AND OUR BIGS ARE OVER MATCHED LOPEZ CANT PLAY LIKE THAT AGAINST ANOTHER SEVEN, SUND HAVE FLOWN THE COOP.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 24th, 2010
2:27 am

“Check out this fan post on Peachtree Hoops:

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2010/11/23/1831754/time-to-trade-josh-smith

It gives an interesting take on what might be the biggest problem for the Hawks right now.”

Words cannot express how unbelievably idiotic and poorly thought out every argument in that post is. Josh Smith is the biggest reason this team even has as many wins as it does. Trade him at your own risk.

Bailey

November 24th, 2010
2:38 am

“Check out this fan post on Peachtree Hoops:

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2010/11/23/1831754/time-to-trade-josh-smith

It gives an interesting take on what might be the biggest problem for the Hawks right now.”

Good read, I guess. It’s one of the few posts that I see which does not directly point out either Joe, Jamal, or L.D. as the primary culprit behind the Hawks struggles. Someone in the comments section of that post has a pretty good analysis too. I’m definitely not on the trade Josh bandwagon, but there are some good points in that post. I’m kind of shocked by how many people seem to agree with what the author is saying, based upon the poll in there. I didn’t realize that this was a common feeling.

One thing I definitely agree with is the fact that Josh doesn’t really have a clearly-defined role.

Ramon

November 24th, 2010
3:03 am

Trade the only player on the team that poses any kind of defensive threat consistently? On a bad night tonight, Josh still goes for 20 and 7. And for the comments he gets about bad decisions, he only had 2 turnovers on the night. Like it or not, he is still shooting over 50% from the field, 38% from beyond the arc, and 69% from the free throw line. He is clearly the Hawks best player.

Bailey, being the Polamalu of the Hawks defense isn’t a clearly-defined role? Being the Hawks best hybrid player isn’t a role? In the half court offense, Josh is the best assist guy the Hawks have.

Ramon

November 24th, 2010
5:01 am

lewis

November 24th, 2010
6:54 am

lol @ hoopshype twitter

yesterday: Nets won, Hawks lost, both teams sucked.
yesterday: Devin Harris had a better look than he deserved in that last play.
yesterday: Bad basketball at the Prudential Center.
yesterday: That Bibby is able to play so much when he’s in such poor shape speaks volumes about his basketball IQ and the Hawks’ weakness at PG spot.

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/#ixzz16CSpv8G1

yessir

November 24th, 2010
7:06 am

Fire LD!!!! Yall asked for his head and now he’s gone(Woody). Some of you are still blaming him for what LD is doing. You guys are some confused individuals. You wanted a new coach now you have one. Woody came into this team with nothing and improved over 6 straight yrs. You are correct about Sund should have made some moves, but we were still winning with Woody without those moves. Be careful of what you ask for!!!!! We only lost 7 at home last yr, we already have 5 L’s. You guys really know basketball.LOL

JeJe

November 24th, 2010
7:14 am

LOL @ LD’s comments.

Acts like we have to keep fighting hard. WTF does that even mean? OH I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. MARVIN IS GOING TO KEEP STARTING FOR THIS TEAM.

THE GUY WHO WILL LET HIS OTHER FORWARDS/CENTERS SUFFER ON THE GLASS WHILE HE DOES NOTHING

2 REBOUNDS IN 24 MINUTES?

I’LL GIVE AN AUTOGRAPHED J.SMOOVE JERSEY AND $200 IN CASH TO ANYONE ON HERE WHO CAN LIST ONE POSITIVE THING MARVIN CONTRIBUTES TO THIS TEAM AS A STARTERS

JeJe

November 24th, 2010
7:14 am

Tim

November 24th, 2010
7:27 am

Less than a month into the season, and the Hawks are already crashing. Those ticket sales will be great this year. Same ol’ Hawks. Same ol’ crap. Looking forward to that lockout next year.

mdonnel34

November 24th, 2010
7:30 am

Let’s not fool ourselves these guys are horrible and don’t deserve to call themselves professioanal athletes. Management has no clue on what to do with this group the players really need to be on teams overseas, they just don’t have the heart or spirit to play in the NBA. Marvin Williams is a draft bust why can’t anyone see that, this guy has no game, he doesn’t rebound, someone told him he’s a jump shooter….”not,” he doesn’t like to play near the basket because he fears the bigger player. Marvin is like a deer caught in headlights maybe he would be good playing for the YMCA. Larry Drew is overmatched as a coach, he is running a scheme I played in college, the sceme works when you have quick players and those that don’t mind passing the ball. This team is a horrible product when it’s on the floor, what hard working Atlantan would pay their descretionary income to go and watch them play and lose with out heart.

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 24th, 2010
7:41 am

This core and team isnt built to get out of the 2nd round and with other teams upgrading, moving and arranging pieces (like we should be doing) we may find ourselves as a team not built to get out of the 1st, or even make the playoffs.

This team has maxed out for what they can do (get to the 2nd round). The Hawks actually gave effort down the stretch and just got outplayed BY THE NETS.

They had more guys capable of doing more things. We arent nearly as good as some think.

If management waits much longer to make some moves, it’ll show just how delusional/inept that they are.

lewis

November 24th, 2010
7:41 am

we’ll continue to lose with no pg and no bench

Bibby / Jamal / Teague faced with defending a starting calibur nba pg = fail.

Rajon Rondo > Hawks|| Nate Robinson > Teague || D. West > Crawford
Devin Harris > Hawks || Farmar > Teague || Morrow > Crawford
Jameer Nelson > Hawks. || Duhon / JWill > Teague. || Reddick > Crawford
Steve Nash > Hawks || Dragic > Teague. || Dudley = Crawford
Brandon Jennings > Hawks || E. Boykins > Teague. || Maggette > Crawford
Deron Williams > Hawks || Ronnie Price > Teague > Raja Bell ?? JCrawford
Jason Kidd > Hawks || JJ Berea > Teague. || Jason Terry > JCrawford

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 24th, 2010
7:43 am

on D, I’ve saw entirely too many possessions with shooters left wide open and players able to drive in the lane and get to the hoop with ease. That goes for the last few YEARS.

and How many point blank floaters is joe gonna miss?

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 24th, 2010
7:44 am

and no SF@lewis

KevinM

November 24th, 2010
7:48 am

Smoove shooting numerous long jumpers isn’t good going forward.
Bibby being our best PG isn’t good.
Horford guarding Harris at the top of the key isn’t good. It never has been.
Marvin hit one jumper of significance last night. Never saw him after that. HIt his 3rd 3 pointer of the year in the 16th game…..has no idea how to play team defense.
More and more iso coming into the equation. Did I mention anywhere previously that the Hawks have no chance if they have to depend on 1/2 court basketball?

Ramon

November 24th, 2010
7:49 am

MC, Does Sund or Gearon realize how majority of the fans see no silver lining in the team past Josh, Al, and Joe (and most aren’t happy with Joe)? Have Sund or Gearon ever seemed to care anything about what the fans want truly?

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 24th, 2010
7:50 am

wdf????

Josh Smith Says Hawks Told Him Trade Rumors Are ‘False’
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/11/22/josh-smith-says-hawks-told-him-trade-rumors-are-false/

ok, I can understand wanting to keep smoove……but what about when he says this..

“They told me that it was all false,” Smith said Monday in an interview with FanHouse about the trade rumors. “That they want to keep this team and this nucleus together because they feel we have something special going.”

…..and this is from an article written 2 days ago? Front Office still believe in the “nucleus” as a whole? What exactly special is goin on? The amount of FAIL?
Gimmie a Break.

tony

November 24th, 2010
8:00 am

No one wanted Sund to hire his assistent coach to coach this team…….We wanted him to hire a proven coach(Avery Johnson/Byron Scott). If they weren’t going to hire a proven coach they should have kept Woody.

As for JJ, I wanted him gone after he insulted the fans in Atlanta. The guy ain’t worth 20 millions for 6 yrs but these clowns(ASG) are paying this guy 120million. I don’t even like watching JJ play but now we are stuck with him for 6 yrs. What team in this league would be dumb enough to take him off our hand?

Only if we had and owner like George Steinbrenner. The Man wouldn’t put up with mediocrity.

O'Brien

November 24th, 2010
8:09 am

Ramon,

JJ has the potential to be third team all NBA defense. But IMO, he takes a lot of plays off. Last year, it was justified somewhat, because he played a lot of minutes, and he exerted a lot of energy on ISOs, so he had to conserve energy. This year, he still plays good defense, but only when he wants to.

Same thing with Josh. Josh is a great safety (Polamula), great help defender, and he picks up others. But he does not make a consistent effort to play great man to man defense on his own guy. He does it when he wants to, like on that last play in regulation when he hounded Devin Harris. Why isn’t he playing like that more often?

Josh and JJ are our best defenders, but they can still defend better (and more consistently) than they have been showing. I’m not putting it all on them though, because Bibby, Jamal, and ZaZa make team defense a struggle.

Also, when your 2 best offensive players, are also your 2 best defensive players, that’s never good. So I blame Rick for that. But yet LD talks about being a top 10 defense. Does he really think he has the players for that?

Banks

November 24th, 2010
8:11 am

I like LD. But MARVIN WILLIAMS has to be the wost professional basketball player in the world. I would rather get someone from the D-leauge or run and shoot to play the 3. His lack of offensive skills allows defenses to leave him alone and sag on the other four players. He should not play another game. You can see his teammates frustration with him during timeouts. One other thing why is he always looking for dap when he comes out of the game after not doing nothing on the floor. He is a clown. The Hawks have not led in a game for at least eight quaters or more I am not sure about the Dallas game.

O'Brien

November 24th, 2010
8:16 am

Speaking of JJ, when was the last time he scored 20 points or more? Against Utah.

His last 5 games? 16, 6, 11, 11, and 17. His last 5 shooting percentages? 33%, 20%, 29%, 33% and 42%.

I dont know what the problem is, but if he insists on playing, then he needs to produce like a guy making $124 mil.

moBmo

November 24th, 2010
8:18 am

Hawks are soft. time to get mad and play that way. no more f’n layups.

i_am_soulstar

November 24th, 2010
8:26 am

dap01

November 24th, 2010
8:34 am

What should you expect from such a poorly constructed team?

lewis

November 24th, 2010
8:52 am

I really wanted JJ to be our Pierce but he keeps throwing up slop

a solid 5 man rotation is not enough to win a game in the nba

Mike is back

November 24th, 2010
9:09 am

Najeh Davenpoop, I have said it before…Josh is an easy target…for people when they want to play…the blame game…because of his approach to the game…I’m never surprised. So, you are going to trade…your only shot blocker on the team…Right. Yet, you have never adequately addressed the PG, SF, and C positions…but you can single out one person…Give me a Fing Break.

There are a collection of problems going on with this team…now collectively Josh may be part of the problem…still water…runs deep. That’s mainly because there has never been a vocal leader on this team. Bibby and JJ are the closes have you that are vets…and that’s it…Mo tries…but who is going to listen to you…when you are a reserve Vet player…playing minuses minutes.

LD gotta make a decision…sometimes…you can change the culture…by changing the line up…this ain’t rocket science.

However, the Hawks problems start at the top. I will have very little respect for anyone that will let Sund and the ASG off the hook for this mess.

tune me out

November 24th, 2010
9:15 am

The Hawks are just a bad team; my guess is about 38 wins and no play-offs. It is pretty sad when you see that the NJ Nets now have better talent and especially more depth. They are also better coached. I feel sorry for this Drew character. His performance is no different than anyone else who is thrust into a job he is not qualified for. Trading Josh Smith would be the best thing that could happen for the Hawks. You can’t build a team around a guy who loafs as much as he does, and pouts about every official call. I will check in with the Hawks again next spring and see if they can get to the 38 wins.

ILL-Logical

November 24th, 2010
9:17 am

Better effort but still nom cigar.

JM

November 24th, 2010
9:18 am

moBmo hit the nail on the head. Way too soft. Time for Etan to get out of the suit and land some hard fouls. Between Zaza and Etan, there should be a no layup rule. Al Horford is showing me that he doesnt want to play center anymore. Shaq and Lopez had it way to easy with his soft D. And I would like to see more post ups out of him and Josh.

The number one issue, however, remains the D. LD has to get them to play better defense or its time to blow up the “core”.

jon

November 24th, 2010
9:19 am

I was there last nite. EMBARRESSING!

STRETCH

November 24th, 2010
9:25 am

I really love Josh Smith’s physical approach and then again i hate his mental approach. Some say it would be crazy to trade him, some say its way past time to trade him.

I love what he does for the team, but i hate what he does to the team. Great athelete, terrible leader. People on here are always talking about he’s good for the team, but what about how he hurts the team?

Right now the nucleus is bad and it might get better, but I DONT SEE IT HAPPENING. Time to trade him.

GrymmDaReaper

November 24th, 2010
9:26 am

NOW would you made the trade superbust Marvin Williams for Shaq. Crap man, centers can not wait to come in the highlight factory to boost their fantasy numbers. By the way my wife has Brook Lopez on her fantasy team, she says thanks Sund.I know Teague jumper is broke like my chase account, but please start him anyway. Gotta be better defence than Bibby. P.S. reminder..We picked Marvin Williams over CP3 and Deron Williams

julius

November 24th, 2010
9:33 am

The hawks suck ass, they pay nickels and dimes for a coach and those are the results they get. They don’t have a true center Al is a great player but he needs help, bibby sucks he’s too old can’t play defense and u pay him all this money, marvin he’s a bust, zaza is just garbage. The ownership has always been cheap. Hey ASG if you want to win u have to spend money if u don’t have it look for investors am pretty sure there are plenty in the city. But seriously look to trade bibby, zaza, and marving williams, and get a good center

Double Zero Eight

November 24th, 2010
9:38 am

Bob Weiss = Lon Kruger = Larry Drew
The three are interchangeable any synonymous with mediocrity.
This group of players needed a veteran and proven NBA coach.

Double Zero Eight

November 24th, 2010
9:40 am

My previous post should have “and” instead of any on line 2.