Atlanta Hawks at New Jersey Nets: ‘Defense is hard.’ Are the Hawks?
Newark, N.J–Over and over the coach preaches defense. He tells his players to execute the coverages, give maximum effort, and stay after it even when (or especially when) things get hard. Most of his preparation time is spent on defense. Pretty much all of his talks are about stopping opponents.
And yet despite all of this, the coach says his team doesn’t do these things to his satisfaction.
Not, I’m not talking about L.D. This was Doc Rivers talking last night before his Celtics waylaid the Hawks. He was asked if things like defensive intensity and focus come from players and not coaches.
“It comes from both. As good as we are at times, last year we were up and down all year. I think that’s a sell every night. It’s just easier to play offense. Defense is hard, and defense is every possession. Defense is hunger and focus and being down on the weak side every single time. It’s amazing how many times we show film of guys standing straight up. It’s hard. Defense is hard. To do it every night is hard to do. As a coach and your whole staff, we harp on it every single day. We could have an 80-point game [allowed] and I could show you 10 times in a game we got lucky and they missed a shot and we were not right. [Defense] comes from all five doing it all the time, where on offense you can have one guy make a shot and it works out for you. Defense, it is just hard.”
While he was saying that I’m thinking: If Doc Rivers has to constantly prod proud, veteran, tough-minded players to get them to do these things, then what chance does L.D. have of getting his younger, volatile, fragile players to play that way?
Mo had the telling quote after last night’s debacle: “The Celtics know who they are. We don’t have an identity, unless it’s when things go bad we go the other way. Maybe that’s out identity and we don’t know it.”
Maybe that’s how it is. Maybe it takes certain kind of players to play the way the Celtics play, and maybe the Hawks don’t have any (or enough) of those players. L.D. says he “very rarely talks about offense” and harps on defense but maybe there’s nothing he can do to make this group of players buy in to that.
“You can look at certain teams with certain players and you can see when the game hits a certain point where players they seem to take over, see certain teams when the game hits a certain point they tighten the screws up,” Drew said before the Boston game. “You can certainly see that. I don’t think we are there yet. I think we have to keep working on it. I do think we can get there. We have the personnel to get there. But we are not quite there.”
The day after
The Hawks players talked after the Celtics game. L.D. said the team met for breakfast this morning and watched video.
“Didn’t want to dwell on it, just wanted to make some points on it and then get ready for New Jersey,” he said.
So I asked Al if he their minds are right.
“We’ll see,” he said. “I’d rather hold all of my thoughts until once we get out here and play. We cant talk about certain stuff but we have to go out there and do it on the floor.”
Smoove took a similar stance on all the talking.
“If that [stuff] penetrates, then we should be good,” he said. “If it gets shrugged off, then maybe not. We are about to see.”
Party time?
L.D. elaborated on his postgame comments last night, in which he seemed to intimate the Hawks are doing too much partying before games.
“I didn’t say party,” he said. “We are not starting the game with a lot of energy. I don’t know if I am practicing them too hard. I don’t know if I am not practicing them hard enough. I don’t know if they are out at night. I don’t know what it is. It is something that is zapping our energy at the very beginning of our ballgame. It is something I have got to figure out what is going on with our team because we are too athletic to start at such a low energy level. Hopefully we will bounce back tonight.”
No rest for J.J.
One of the items the !$%^# blog monster ate last night concerned J.J.’s sore left hand. He got hit on the top of the hand during the preseason and still grimaces and favors it at times.
Good luck trying to get him to reveal how much it’s really bothering him.
“I’ve just got to deal with it,” Joe said. “The only thing that can keep it from hurting is resting but we don’t have time for that. I have to play through it. It’s nothing major.”
The fact that J.J. is wearing that bulky glove on the hand suggests it’s a problem. He said he would continue to wear it (”Got no choice) and that it doesn’t bother his shooting. The hand is not as sore after games when he wears the glove.
L.D. thinks the hand is bothering Joe more than he’s letting on. Would he consider taking the decision from Joe and giving him an extended rest?
“I will consider it, but a high probability of giving him time off? No,” Drew said. “We will probably just try to rest him days that we are not playing, especially when we have a couple days in between. Let him get it treated and keep him out. With those type injuries they always start to feel good and then you get it banged again and it becomes a lingering thing through the season.”
No T-Will for Nets
Nets swingman Terrence Williams (Go Cards) is out for two games due to disciplinary reasons. Dang, T-Will, get it together and rep The Ville right.
MC
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November 23rd, 2010
6:59 pm
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bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
7:13 pm
Ludacris.. Falcons DE Jamaal Anderson… and Devin Harris could be triplets..
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
7:16 pm
Great movement so far. Maybe too much motion…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:16 pm
“Maybe that’s how it is. Maybe it takes certain kind of players to play the way the Celtics play, and maybe the Hawks don’t have any (or enough) of those players. ”
Jamal and Marvin for Prince and Ben Wallace. Make it happen.
Marvin f-cking BLOWS.
cp
November 23rd, 2010
7:19 pm
smdh same B.S. as last night. Man whatever smdh this team here. and please ship Marvin out of here
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:19 pm
Mirror image of last night’s game.
Damn this “core” is good.
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
7:19 pm
Hawks behind 9-0 to Nets…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:20 pm
A suspended Terrence Williams > Marvin
uh-oh
November 23rd, 2010
7:20 pm
its already 9-0 Nets
terrell
November 23rd, 2010
7:20 pm
Here we go again. Great D there Bibby.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:21 pm
Looks like Dominique Wilkins has discovered the telestrator.
Wabe
November 23rd, 2010
7:21 pm
Man, had the Hawks taken Chris Paul or Derron Williams with that pick, we wouldn’t be having to deal with Marvin or Bibby…
All in the past.
Sux we’re still bringing that up.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
7:21 pm
Again, here is what I have been complaining about, lots and lots of jumpers, and nothing inside for Al and Josh. L.D. needs to get over his love affair with the guards and jumpers and utilize his big men more often.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:21 pm
The $126 million man continuing to build his mansion with all those bricks.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:22 pm
“Man, had the Hawks taken Chris Paul or Derron Williams with that pick, we wouldn’t be having to deal with Marvin or Bibby…”
It speaks to how poorly managed this team has been that they still haven’t found a long term solution at the PG position to erase that mistake.
J from the A
November 23rd, 2010
7:23 pm
Josh to Joe! … of course, some will only remember the bad plays w/e
J from the A
November 23rd, 2010
7:24 pm
Big 3 from Josh! … of course, everyone will remember the 1 he misses.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:25 pm
Avery Johnson has those Nets playing pretty good team defense. I don’t know that they have the players to be an elite defensive team, but they are communicating and forcing the Hawks to do things they don’t want to do.
J from the A
November 23rd, 2010
7:25 pm
Bibby penetrating, drawing the foul! … you get the point.
Starting to look a little better on both ends of the court … of course, it is only the Nets w/e.
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
7:25 pm
Hawks are committed to the motion offense. Hopefully this means that the players are committed to listening to Drew.
cp
November 23rd, 2010
7:27 pm
I think LD has lost his confidence in Marvin. He shouldn’t even be starting . They have picked up their energy. And Lopez is having his way
Jae Evolution
November 23rd, 2010
7:28 pm
Joe Johnson…you are making sports critic’s eat their heart out with your recent play…come on.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:28 pm
“I think LD has lost his confidence in Marvin. He shouldn’t even be starting . ”
I think Marvin has lost his confidence in Marvin.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
7:29 pm
Where is the equal opportunity on offense? Joe is again dominating the ball and has 4 field goal attempts already, meanwhile Josh has 5. Al only has 1. The Hawks managed to get a little bit of penetration, but if those jumpers weren’t falling, we’d still be down by 10.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
7:30 pm
raise your hand if you would take Outlaw over Marvin
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:30 pm
Here comes the bench to kill the momentum again. I still don’t understand why Josh Powell is in the NBA.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
7:31 pm
Patrick,
Al is shooting over 60% from the field on the season. You would think they would get him more shots.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:31 pm
Raise your hand if you’d take Damion James over Marvin.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
7:32 pm
Najeh,
Josh Powell is a great locker room guy. Just ask Kobe
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
7:33 pm
so much for ld doing anything different
TheAntiMe
November 23rd, 2010
7:33 pm
“It is something that is zapping our energy at the very beginning of our ballgame. It is something I have got to figure out what is going on with our team because we are too athletic to start at such a low energy level. Hopefully we will bounce back tonight.”
9 – 0 Nets. I guess they still haven’t figured it out yet. The Hawks aren’t the bouncers, they’re the bouncees.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:34 pm
Powell and Zaza are standing around while the Nets’ big men make sh-t happen.
I don’t care how good they are in the locker room. You don’t score points in the locker room. The game is played in the court, where they are pitiful.
cp
November 23rd, 2010
7:34 pm
bench comes in lead goes right back up.. and they are getting out hustled out there smh.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:35 pm
Nice, confident take by Teague.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:36 pm
Zaza stood around that entire possession guarding nobody.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
7:36 pm
Lopez has looked unstoppable.
I wonder how long before somebody posts the Lopez for Horford trade
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:37 pm
Raise your hand if you’d rather have ANY of the Nets’ big men over Powell and Zaza.
Including Joe Smith.
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
7:37 pm
Jamal is just not the same.
Freshfromatl AKA Fresh
November 23rd, 2010
7:38 pm
*Walk into house from work*
*Turns on T.V.*
*First thing I hear? Nique says “Hawks Shouldn’t Try To Get It All Back At Once.”*
*Looks at schedule With Blank Stare…See’s the Hawks Are Playing The Nets*
*Change Channel In Disbelief and Pure Disgust*
*Goes On With Life*
O'Reilly
November 23rd, 2010
7:38 pm
We need to get a coach who wasn’t a guard in the league. L.D. seems way too biased. I can’t even express how annoyed I am with his offensive strategies sometimes. He has no idea how to utilize the strengths of his team. Almost everything the Hawks run is to the benefit of Joe Johnson or Jamal Crawford. And, if a play gets broken up, it almost always results in a long jumper for Josh. Start running some pick and roll and pick and pop for your All-Star center, or some back-cuts for the invisible man since he doesn’t attract much defensive attention anyway. Throw some lobs when you have the opportunity, use the speed and athleticism of the team. I’m so tired of L.D.’s obsession with jumpshots and getting his guards “into a rhythm” shooting the ball. It’s like he ignores everyone on the team who isn’t a guard named Joe or Jamal. I’m also tired of this obsession with “developing the bench”. Outside of Teague and Jordan Crawford, there’s nothing to develop, and those guys barely play as it is. He’s not going to turn Pachulia or Powell into all-stars, and he’s not going to get starter-quality production out of a bench that doesn’t have the personnel to achieve that caliber of play. L.D. needs to take his head out of his rear end, realize what he is working with, and utilize the strengths of his team, rather than trying to make them into something that they are not and putting them into positions where they are at disadvantages.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
7:38 pm
I just turn on the game. My goodness, Hawks are getting beat by 10 at the end of the 1st qtr by the Net…SMH
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:38 pm
In fairness to Al, they haven’t got him involved in the offense at all. I am confident that he can score on Lopez. But for him to only have one board compared to 5 for Lopez is inexcusable.
cp
November 23rd, 2010
7:39 pm
LD is taking the Woodson approach, keep doing the same thing over and over again even if it doesn’t work smdh
RealSquawk
November 23rd, 2010
7:39 pm
I wonder how many of these losses will happen before something gets shook up.
And then I worry that the wrong players will be shook
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
7:40 pm
what the hell is mw doing,bench his azz
terrell
November 23rd, 2010
7:40 pm
The 1st qtr blues continue. Last year we had the 4th qtr blues. This year we lost on the road and won at home. This year we’re winning on the road and losing at home. Go figure. Like MsDee said, we need to hire Woody as an assistant. Even this thing out a little bit. lol!
terrell
November 23rd, 2010
7:41 pm
I meant last year we lost on the road and won at home.
stizz
November 23rd, 2010
7:42 pm
Marvin is terrible and the d is atrocious.
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
7:42 pm
za za plays like a zombie sit him down
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
7:42 pm
Teague is quick. I wish he could shoot.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
7:43 pm
Najeh,
Lopez has twice Al’s minutes so far.
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
7:45 pm
i watched a game the nets against miami lopez couldnt buy a basket
cp
November 23rd, 2010
7:46 pm
ZaZa is terrible. At this point I would rather see Collins out there.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:47 pm
Nice outlet pass by Teague.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
7:47 pm
Teague with a good steal, and pas ahead to Josh, who slams it.
Maybe that will get us going
cp
November 23rd, 2010
7:47 pm
Thats the Josh we have been missing. He hasn’t dunked on somebody like that in a long time. Good d by Teague
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
7:47 pm
Ok hopeful that dunk by Josh can wait this team up (for the rest of the year)…. although he travel….lol
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
7:48 pm
“Najeh,
Lopez has twice Al’s minutes so far.”
At the time I posted that, he had two more minutes than Al.
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
7:48 pm
Josh ran down the lane with the ball but never put it on the floor. See, Zaza, you don’t always have to dribble before you shoot.
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm
Bad angle by Al on the shot off the block.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm
That play by Jamal is what been missing from him all year…
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm
Quick. Trade Jamal while he is hot
cp
November 23rd, 2010
7:53 pm
I have no words to describe Teague’s jumper. He really needs to fix that release
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
7:54 pm
Najeh,
And when I posted it was Lopez 12 and Al 6.
terrell
November 23rd, 2010
7:55 pm
If Teague work on his shot this summer, he might be pretty good. Defense is pretty good already. WAY better than Bibby’s.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
7:55 pm
Rev,
I thought Lopez got a piece of it.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
7:56 pm
If you’re LD, and Lopez is on fire…Why dont he play Twin at Center, Al at PF, and Josh at SF?
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
7:57 pm
O’B,
My thoughts exactly
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
7:57 pm
how the hell can we ever get any offensive rebounds when we never have anyone ever under the boards
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
7:58 pm
See Jamal? You don’t have to chuck away from 3 point land to be an effective scorer.
glw
November 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm
rusty,
I was thinking the same thing. Atlanta is such a jump shooting team. No one ever goes to the board, unless its Al or occassionally Josh. And if Al pops out for a jumper, there is no one there. Still trying to figure out what purpose Marvin serves offensively.
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
8:01 pm
yea nortcyde to bad your buddy the 124m man cant do that
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:01 pm
There goes Al, out for the rest of the quarter. Now, we have to put up with the walking tree in Collins for the rest of the half and hope that the Nets don’t build up another 10 point lead. I bet I can guess what the next play will be for the Hawks. There’s about a 90% chance that it is either a Jamal Crawford jumper, a Joe Johnson jumper, or long jumper/wild shot by Josh. I hate L.D.’s coaching. Can’t wait to get a new coach in here.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
With Lopez has it going like this in the 1st half, I’m sure we will hear from T.S. before the night is over.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
Haha, looks like I was right. A long jumper by Josh it is.
J.J.M.
November 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm
all crawford does is shoot jump shots…how bout try driving and dishing
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm
Another player going for a record performance against the Hawks. Reminds me of the Braves in the mid-70’s.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm
And what happens in the next possession? A long jumper by Jamal. LOL. This offense is no less predictable than what we were running last season.
terrell
November 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
Why does Brooke Lopez, Nate Robinson, Damien Wilkins, etc… turn into AllNBA players when they play the Hawks?
J.J.M.
November 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
smh josh so dumb he doesnt even attempt to dunk on people anymore
cp
November 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
Is it really that hard for Josh to just give up the ball on the break and fill the lanes SMH
J.J.M.
November 23rd, 2010
8:05 pm
lmao 10 point lead just like that
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
8:05 pm
Great block by Josh
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
they really need to give teague a real chance to develop & they need to play jc2 ahead of mo
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
cp, Josh likes to play “hero” basketball a little bit too much. He thinks he can do everything. All of a sudden, he even thinks that he’s some sort of elite jumpshooter. He takes more jumpers than Joe and Jamal some games.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
Terrence Williams is in Avery’s doghouse and the Nets simply dont want Troy Murphy (the feeling is mutual). The Hawks need to make a deal happen….
cp
November 23rd, 2010
8:07 pm
@Patrick and whats frustrating about that play is that he had Bibby wide open. He should have just given up the rock instead of trying to do to much.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm
J.J.M.,
What did you expect when you saw twin come in? At that point, I knew all of our offense would be Joe, Josh, and Jamal taking long jumpers. I’m impressed that we are only down by 10. It might get worse too, since Josh will start trying to be a hero and bring the team back in the third quarter. Oh, and don’t worry about Jamal being taken out of the game even if he misses his next ten shots or gives up 10 consecutive points to his man. L.D. just wants to “get him into a rhythm”.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm
28-17 rebounding advantage for New Jersey. 0 boards for Smoove, 3 for Horford.
19 free throw attempts for New Jersey. 4 for Atlanta.
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm
smoove, you need to get real,honestly man
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm
Great job Hawks! You shaved 30% points off the Nets shooting pct from the 78% that the celtics shot last night. (Sarcasm)
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
8:10 pm
Jamal,
When you read this please tell Josh that the blog loves him, but we wish he didn’t try to be Magic Johnson.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:12 pm
Interesting statistic: Jamal Crawford, off of the bench, has played more minutes than anyone on the team. Is this looking familiar? Is L.D. going to shave his eyebrows soon?
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:13 pm
For +/- rating, guess who has the lowest so far? JJ. he is -12
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
8:16 pm
really beginning to believe that horford is a lousy defensive player what the hell does a few inches matter
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
8:17 pm
O’B,
Better than last night when he was -34 in 23 minutes.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:17 pm
O’Brien,
As bad as JJ’s +/- rating is right now, don’t be surprised if he takes 10+ shots in the second half and never leaves the game. The first play of the third quarter for the Hawks will probably be for JJ.
mykhalc
November 23rd, 2010
8:20 pm
wake me when the Hawks find a ‘real’ leader…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
8:20 pm
REBOUNDING
New Jersey frontcourt: 24 – ( starters have 20 rebounds )
Atlanta frontcourt: 10 – ( starters have 5 rebounds )
Really?????
Ron Johnson
November 23rd, 2010
8:21 pm
Do you guys think that we are even capable of beating the Clippers anymore? How about the T’wolves?
rob
November 23rd, 2010
8:26 pm
We have all this money commited to Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford, and Marvin. This reminds me of the Hawks back when they were 2nd round wonders with Steve Smith, Mookie, Christian Laettner, and Dikembe Mutumbo. They couldnt get past the second round and they were sometimes kicked out of the first. This team may have a coaching problem, but this core stuff has gone on too long now. We need a star, and Joe is not it. I feel like the only untouchable person on this roster is Al Horford because Joe Johnson is not getting traded because of his MEGA deal. Trade Josh, Jamal, Marvin, and Twin to Nuggets for Carmelo and Nene.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:27 pm
Josh Smith: 4-6 inside the paint, 1-5 outside the paint.
J.J.M.
November 23rd, 2010
8:27 pm
WOW THE DEFENSE
J.J.M.
November 23rd, 2010
8:28 pm
THIS TEAM IS JUST PURE GARBAGE
cp
November 23rd, 2010
8:28 pm
Looks like Josh is frustrated with Marvin
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
8:29 pm
Jordan needs a nickname. I’ll start calling him the “Allspark” . . . the energy cube from Transformers.
Drew, just put the Allspark in.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:29 pm
Does Josh even understand the meaning of boxing out?
rob
November 23rd, 2010
8:30 pm
Hawks are making me sick
cp
November 23rd, 2010
8:30 pm
Its amazing that the Hawks cant do something as simple as BOXING OUT
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
8:31 pm
What make me mad about Joe is, he wore that stupid brace on his hand against Boston and Dallas (after a 3 day break from previous game) now against the Nets he decide not to wear it…. Conspiracy, t…
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
8:31 pm
i am really trying to like ld,getting hard
leedsatlanta
November 23rd, 2010
8:31 pm
Where the hell is Jordan? we need a spark!
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:31 pm
Really LD? Thats the play you call out of a timeout?
JJ dribble for 20 seconds, then pass to Josh for a 3 pointer?
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
8:32 pm
rusty,
ewwww.
welikebaseball2
November 23rd, 2010
8:32 pm
Yep, I guess this “new” offense does feature jumper after jumper from our 4 & 5…wow again…
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
8:33 pm
who can believe jj,he cant face the pressure of taking all that dough
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:33 pm
Josh Powell shows that even a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while. Awful shot selection, but good thing it went in.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:33 pm
And thats where Bibby costs us
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
8:34 pm
can’t even beat the nets….smh
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:35 pm
This time of the night, I didnt know the bank was open
cp
November 23rd, 2010
8:35 pm
I honestly didnt realize that Marvin was on the court smh… Powell is doing work and Josh Smith is settling for jumpers instead of going in the paint. Good move to sit him
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:36 pm
I think Hawks win this game. And then LD will talk about showing signs of maturity blah blah blah.
But its still the nets.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
8:36 pm
O’B,
Must have been a supermarket bank, lol!
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
8:36 pm
Coach needs to throw a clipboard or something….forget the Tony Dungy approach….go Jon Gruden Bill Cowher on these fools
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:36 pm
cp,
LD takes out one jump shooting PF (Josh Smith) for another jump shooting PF (Powell).
We need somebody to bang inside.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:37 pm
Interesting. The Hawks are actually performing better with Josh out of the game. That was the first good move that L.D. has made tonight. With Josh and Jamal out of the game, there’s more offensive variety with Horford actually getting involved. Horford and Bibby play well together. When both of them are in the game, that’s pretty much the only time the Hawks ever run pick-and-roll or pick-and-pop. L.D. needs to play them together more often.
keith
November 23rd, 2010
8:37 pm
Go Bristol Palin!
rob
November 23rd, 2010
8:38 pm
Duck sighting!
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:39 pm
3:45 into the 3rd quarter, and Nique finally says “nimbers”.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:39 pm
Man, the Nets are bad. 3 on 1 fast break, and they settle for a 3 pointer.
From Jordan Farmar no less, who is struggling with his shot.
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
8:40 pm
Joe Johnson takes way too long to make a move.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:41 pm
I wonder why the Nets don’t play Favors more. He looked pretty good in his limited minutes.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
8:41 pm
LOL at ‘Nique: Mike wanted to give Joe a blow.
Mike??????
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
8:42 pm
O’Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:39 pm
Man, the Nets are bad. 3 on 1 fast break, and they settle for a 3 pointer.
From Jordan Farmar no less, who is struggling with his shot.
………………
and they are currently still beatin us….sad
mykhalc
November 23rd, 2010
8:42 pm
i’m not even watchin’ but i know one thing…BREAK ‘EM UP!!! experiment is declared dead!!! the study is over!!! 3yrs plus…we know ENOUGH!!!!! there is no alpha dog in this group…all wanna-be’s!!!! send ‘em all somewhere else where they will THEN assume their proper place in the pack…as a non-leader!!!! JJ to the Knicks anyone!!! Marvin to Portland!!! etc etc etc
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
8:42 pm
One thing is for sure….we don’t look as bad as the Miami Heat
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:42 pm
Wow. Marvin actually made a 3.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:43 pm
Marvin. he is on the court after all
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:43 pm
Oh no, here comes Zaza. Cross your fingers, guys. This could get ugly quick.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:43 pm
“LOL at ‘Nique: Mike wanted to give Joe a blow.
Mike??????”
LMAO… I heard that too. Doesn’t Joe already have a stripper who does that?
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
8:44 pm
Powell is not in the game to take jumpers. He is not looking to pass. It seems that he is only playing to put some numbers in his stat line.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:44 pm
This is just a mentally weak team. The Nets have been rolling out the welcome mat to let the Hawks back into this game and the Hawks just refuse.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:45 pm
Nice offensive board by Powell. On the rare occasions he does something right, I’ll give him credit.
keith
November 23rd, 2010
8:45 pm
@ mykhalc. If this season is a disastor, then Hawks makeover 2 begins.
cp
November 23rd, 2010
8:46 pm
Needed those free throws
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:47 pm
@Najeh,
“…Doesn’t Joe already have a stripper who does that?”
LMAO. That’s the best line I’ve heard tonight.
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
8:47 pm
When it rains it pours….I think the team needs something positive to happen to get a jolt of confidence….that’s seems to be lacking
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
8:48 pm
keith,
You’re showing your youth. That would be makeover 12 for me.
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
8:48 pm
how come we always leave everybody open for 3 ’s & they always make them, we sure are lazy
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
8:49 pm
Hey guys, you know how sometimes a change of environment (trade), or different role with the team (starter vs. bench player) can cause a player’s performance to increase.
Marvin Williams is DEFINITELY not starters material and I think his course in ATL has ran out, but does anyone get the feelin that he could be a guy that comes off someones bench in a limited role and provide them with some defense and ability to knock down big jumpers.
He could be an attractive trade asset to others, but he needs to go away from the Hawks.
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
8:49 pm
I am impressed with Bibby effort. I even saw the effort last night. He is hustling to stay in front of his man, but his legs just don’t have the quickness. And his 3pt shooting has been impressive.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
8:51 pm
wdf crawford
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
8:51 pm
Jamal is just not the same…
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:51 pm
We have a shot at actually winning this game. Can we get Al back in for Powell or Zaza soon?
mykhalc
November 23rd, 2010
8:51 pm
@keith…like so many others here i’ve been here since the birth of this blog and it’s just sad to see we are still strugglin’ with the same issues…no leader and an unbalanced roster!!! i think LD will be ok as HC in time if he is given the right pieces. these just don’t fit…for whatever reason!! and at this point i’m worn out for even carin’ about ‘em!!! they’ll get more support if they find the f’n courage to make change!!!
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:51 pm
Oh, and Bibby too.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
8:53 pm
did anyone see Zaza poke that ball lose from Farmar…then instead of hustling after the rock, he started to run back the other way…in hopes a teammate would get the ball instead and start a break????
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
8:54 pm
did everybody see harris blow by jj on the fast break & he didnt even try to block the shot,made no contact with him at all
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
8:54 pm
‘Nique said “Jamal’s a competitor”.
Really? isnt every basketball player a competitor? Nique adds nothing to the analysis
cp
November 23rd, 2010
8:54 pm
smdh Teague. The Nets are trying to give them the game and they still cant take the lead
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:54 pm
“did anyone see Zaza poke that ball lose from Farmar…then instead of hustling after the rock, he started to run back the other way…in hopes a teammate would get the ball instead and start a break????”
Seriously, as lacking as that guy is in talent, if he doesn’t hustle he is absolutely useless.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
8:54 pm
Powell is the true Ronnie Garvin (Hands of Stone)…
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
8:54 pm
JOE SAYS IT’S NOT AFFECTING HIM. THEN WHY DOES HE STILL SUCK EVERY NIGHT
Wabe
November 23rd, 2010
8:54 pm
tired of the Hawks now…
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:55 pm
If L.D. sticks with the bench too long (again), and we end up losing this game, I think that he should be forced “to give Joe a blow”.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
8:55 pm
Yeah that was disappointing.
mykhalc
November 23rd, 2010
8:55 pm
@Rev…that’s ’cause Bibby is a pro. he might not be the player he once was but he understands what it is to be a pro…IMHO
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
8:56 pm
MARVIN’S PLAYED MORE MINUTES THAN JOSH. LOL
cp
November 23rd, 2010
8:56 pm
O’Brien they should just bring The Stinger back or the guy who called the Orlando game. Its already frustrating watching this team, listening to Nique just makes it worse.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
8:56 pm
I’m kind of worried even if he does put the starters back in though, because with Joe, Jamal, and Josh in at the same time, no one else will ever get a shot and it will be a jump shot parade. Or perhaps, a brick-laying contest.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
8:57 pm
O’Brien,
“Nique adds nothing to the analysis”
Yeah but he can always serve as a poor example for broadcasters, LOL!
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
8:57 pm
what???????????
careless T.O. in this situation
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
8:57 pm
Jamal .. Jamal.. Jamal..
negative play after another..
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
8:57 pm
Enter your comments here
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
8:58 pm
Cold blooded 3 by Morrow
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
8:58 pm
nice to see we’re leaving known 3 pt shooters wide open
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:58 pm
Every time they double team they get burned. These guards are just absolutely pathetic at rotating.
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
8:59 pm
JOE IS JUST MESSING UP THIS TEAM. WHAT A FRAUD.
SHIP HIM AND MARVIN TO A LOCAL STORAGE UNIT AND LEAVE THEM THERE UNTIL THEY PROMISE TO ACTUALLY HELP THIS TEAM
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
8:59 pm
Morrow is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league and he’s constantly wide open…..I just don’t understand the defensive awareness and assignments
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
8:59 pm
This time they double Harris after he receives the handoff and nobody rotates to Lopez.
How f-cking terrible can their rotations on defense get?
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
9:00 pm
Again, other teams are just making the bigger plays down the stretch.
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
9:01 pm
LOL . . gotta love Jamal
It’s like . .
“yeaaaaaaaaahhh”
then . .
“Jamal WTF man?”
hawkfan
November 23rd, 2010
9:01 pm
i know brooke lopez and humphries aren’t allstars or whatever but why don’t we have guys on our team like them that have size and length and can make plays down the stretch
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:02 pm
The defense is just plain unacceptable….every team looks like the Phoenix Suns against the Hawks…wide open uncontested jumpers….inability to fight through picks or stay even remotely close to their man….a complete neglect of boxing out….horrible horrible rotations…getting beat constantly off the dribble
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
9:02 pm
ha jj if you cant get around them just knock them down,idiot
cp
November 23rd, 2010
9:03 pm
The Hawks cant get over the hump. The Nets practically tried to give them the game and turnovers , more turnovers, no rotations, and missed three throws, pretty much kept them from taking the lead
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:04 pm
Huge possession right here, with a chance to cut it to a one-possession game. The Hawks may not receive another opportunity.
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:04 pm
The Hawks take too many jumpshots….7 FTs for the game???? Team is too athletic for that…take these fools off the dribble and attack
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
9:04 pm
The Hawks with only 7 free throw attempts
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:05 pm
LOL, LD was ging to put Marvin in before the TV timeout then decide to leave him on the bench after the commerical….
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:05 pm
There is really something to be said for having a guard who can confidently take any defender off the dribble on a pick and roll. Devin Harris is that guy. The closest the Hawks have to someone like that is Teague, who never plays with enough confidence to be trusted.
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:05 pm
Melvin.. he took the wrist brace off @ halftime, he started the game with it on..
lol@ Popeye Jones on the Nets coaching staff..
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:06 pm
I think the offense may be the culprit for the poor play….it creates open shots but they are always jumpshots…
we need some plays towards the basket to take advantage of our athleticism and to get some Free Throws….it’s easier to play defense off made baskets and especially off made free throws
cp
November 23rd, 2010
9:06 pm
There just has to be another job they can give Nique.
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
9:07 pm
First team to 96 wins this game
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:07 pm
bigdave,
thanks. i didnt noticed that…
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
9:08 pm
Josh and Al are starting to carry the Hawks, once again. The rotations on defense by the team, overall, have been awful though. That needs to improve for us to win this one.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
9:08 pm
Najeh,
LD needs to put Marvin back in so JJ can guard Harris. Or take a chance with Teague, cuz Jamal and Bibby can’t stop him.
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
9:08 pm
yea nortcyde your boy jj is really shining yea pick on jc1
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:09 pm
“LD needs to put Marvin back in so JJ can guard Harris. Or take a chance with Teague, cuz Jamal and Bibby can’t stop him.”
I honestly don’t think Joe will stop Harris either. The Hawks just don’t have that guy. Teague makes too many mistakes right now to be trusted in crunch time.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:09 pm
Great post D by Horford.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm
Joe’s dumb azz tried to pull the same sh-t he did against the Magic back in March.
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm
Nets are shooting 75% this quarter. Hawks are 72%. Just a little defense by teh Hawks would get them the w
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm
Terrible call on Josh.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm
Where’s the foul call????
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm
“Nimbers”
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm
Jamal got foul on that 3…
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm
big shot from Jamal..
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm
IF U WANNA TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY THEN DO NOT START MARVIN WILLIAMS EVER AGAIN.
THIS GUY ISN’T HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR !@#$. THERE’S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE FOR THIS PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A BASKETBALL PLAYER
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm
Finally the Hawks D has decided to show up…
cp
November 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm
I dont complain about the refs often but damn can the Hawks get a foul call
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm
Need to put Marvin or Mo in for this defensive possesion…
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm
Wow, was Jamal just playing defense there? A block from Jamal? I’m still in shock over that. If only Josh would learn to pass the ball when he’s trapped in the paint with 3 defenders around him, we may have the lead right now.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm
Great defense by the Hawks. No idea what Avery Johnson was thinking — why the hell would you run a play for Outlaw instead of keeping the ball in Harris’ hands?
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm
Good d by Jamal. Good to see he has it in him
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
Hawks got lucky on the rebound b/c they didnt box out…
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
Jamal and Mike Bibby have stepped up there on ball defense..
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
all it takes is a little defense……play some defense and you will win more games…
It’s infallible proof….Pistons, Spurs, Celtics, Lakers….all the previous champs played some defense
Just take this last 5 minutes and build off of it
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
*their
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
Take you Joe for taking it strong to the basket and making the ref call the foul… You see that big dave…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
Joe got away with a little push off action there.
The Hawks clearly have the athletes to be an elite defensive and rebounding team. It’s really just about intensity.
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
JUST HIT A JAMAL 3 AND LETS GTFOH
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:16 pm
nylons from da jigga man..
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:16 pm
Take Bibby and Jamal out for this defensive possesion.
Rev in Tampa
November 23rd, 2010
9:16 pm
Have the Hawks out-rebounded anybody this year?
Bibbster
November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
I got this
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
big dave,
Joe finally got a foul call b/c he created enough contact to force the refs to blow the whistle…
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
yea.. Melvin.. throwback discussion right there.. lol.
i saw him though with the wicky wade action..
Bibbster
November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
from da bench
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
I know this is the NETS but we need to put the last 5 minutes in a bottle. I can’t believe I saw some defense from the Hawks…take the ball to the rim and get fouled….the game is simple.
We need to stop a buzzer beater. If it goes to OT we will win
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:18 pm
I haven’t seen the Hawks play with this much intensity since their game against the Magic at home in March.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:18 pm
why is Jamal still on the floor???
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:18 pm
yea.. but thats what you are supposed to do when you are in a bad situation with a defender in the air..
i still will argue that you should focus on ur shot..
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm
lol.. Melvin
Devin should have done it right there.. lol
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm
Pretty good D by the Hawks on that last possession, although Smoove left his feet at the end and got lucky that Harris didn’t jump in to him.
cp
November 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm
Good Defense
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm
Overtime… Now lets get our swagger back…
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm
good basketball right here..
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm
big dave,
Devin totally messed up that play. He took too long to start his drive..
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm
forget the jumpshots attack the rim….too much athleticism to be shooting jumpers the entire game
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm
big dave,
I wish Joe would have did that against Chandler in the Mavs game but look like he learn from that mistake.
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm
i like the 2 man game w/ Joe and Josh we were seeing in the half court
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:22 pm
yep.. he had him..
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:22 pm
Already the Hawks have started overtime without the same intensity they had at the end of the 4th.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm
Nets got away with a travel and over the back on the same play…SMH
J.J.M.
November 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm
josh never gets foul calls
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm
they should rename Marta after Devin Harris..
dude spin is pure transportation.
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm
I thought we would come out in Overtime ready to take the game…guess not
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:24 pm
ball don’t lie
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:24 pm
2 traveling violations on that Harris spin.. smh
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:26 pm
If the Hawks are getting out rebounded by the Nets, what are they going to do against the Wizards with Blatche and McGee.
keith
November 23rd, 2010
9:27 pm
I already know the blog is going to crucify these Hawks if they lose to the 4-9 nets. Brace yourselves. Oops I already did.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:27 pm
F-cking Iso-Joe AGAIN.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:28 pm
Terrible shot by Joe…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:28 pm
“I already know the blog is going to crucify these Hawks if they lose to the 4-9 nets.”
As we should.
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
9:29 pm
Why is it all isolation when the Hawks run into trouble? Come on, Larry Woodson, where is the “motion” system?
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
9:29 pm
Yeah and when we iso Joe the rebounders are at a disadvantage.
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:29 pm
had to take the pull up.. Outlaw was giving him the jumper b/c Joe has been taking him off the dribble in that match up..
keith
November 23rd, 2010
9:30 pm
John Wall on Thursday at Phillips. Standing room only? Hope they give some tickets away nobody is going.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:30 pm
how many times is Bibby going to fall to the floor on the same play???
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:31 pm
“had to take the pull up.. Outlaw was giving him the jumper b/c Joe has been taking him off the dribble in that match up..”
My question is though, if Joe is going to wait for the double team to arrive, then why not PASS OUT OF the double team and rotate the ball to an open guy instead of taking a contested jumper?
Either shoot over your man when you are SINGLE teamed, or pass to the open guy if you are DOUBLE teamed. Waiting for two 7 foot arms to get in your face doesn’t make the shot any easier.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:31 pm
Nice to see that the Hawks don’t think Devin Harris is worth guarding on the perimeter.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:32 pm
how did they call that touch foul for the Nets?
Wabe
November 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm
That was a horrible call…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm
Nice flop by Devin Harris. Game over.
8-1 against bad teams, 0-6 against good teams.
keith
November 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm
@ Najeh I guess they think Devin Harris is Acie Law. Hope John Wall cant play Thursday or it will be embarrassing on National t.v.
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm
Wow, Josh Smith is AWFUL
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm
That was Joe fault. Why did he pass it to Josh?
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm
THIS IS A SOFT BASKETBALL TEAM. 1 – 12 , EVERYONE IS SOFT. THE COACHES ARE SOFT. THE GM IS SOFT
I DOUBT WE MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. IT’S SAD THAT CHRIS WEBBER MIGHT ACTUALLY BE RIGHT
Wabe
November 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm
But, had we taken care of business like we were supposed to, we wouldn’t be in this.
The Hawks don’t deserve paychecks. Pi$$es me off they play like ish and make that fat paycheck…
How many shots did $126 million make in OT?
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm
they are sticking w/ Outlaw on him… he wasnt waiting for the double team, he was sizing him up to take him off the dribble. play happened on the baseline, Brook was creeping under the basket all while Outlaw was backing further and further away from Joe..
if a double came, of course the basketball needs to rotate..
bs charge call by the way..
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm
Why didn’t Josh pass it back?
J.J.M.
November 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm
thank god for the lockout next season
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
9:36 pm
again i seen harris come down the line & joe just stepped away from him , ran it back in slo mo,seen same thing
stizz
November 23rd, 2010
9:36 pm
It’s gonna be a long season folks. Mr Cunningham would be better off shutting this down and covering the team that plays in the Ga dome. I hear they play with heart.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:36 pm
ATL Fan,
Now he could have done that to…
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:36 pm
UTAH WAS DOWN 8 WITH 30 SECS LEFT AND BEAT MIAMI. WE COULD DO THAT. OH WAIT – JERRY SLOAN ISN’T OUR COACH
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:37 pm
why did he pass to Josh? huh..
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
9:37 pm
Great play LD, awful team…
keith
November 23rd, 2010
9:37 pm
Im prepping for a long year. Definately not 53win material thats one and done. Wheres Dion Glover when you need him?
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:38 pm
LD SAID WHEN HE POINTS STUFF OUT TO PLAYERS DURING VIDEO SESSIONS, EVERYONE IS QUIET.
LOL
SOFT BASKETBALL TEAM
EVERYONE IS SOFT AND AFRAID OF GETTING HIS [OR HER] FEELINGS HURT
GROW A PAIR
Wabe
November 23rd, 2010
9:38 pm
Packers/Falcons = 4 days away
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:38 pm
Oh well, Hawks should have never been in overtime against these guys any way….
Chillin on paradise island
November 23rd, 2010
9:38 pm
This is pretty sad. At least we got the Falcons!
GO FALCONS!
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:39 pm
SMGDH…..The New Jersey Nets put up 104 points on us….I wish they would play some defense every now and then
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
9:39 pm
WOW, Joe Johnson….
keith
November 23rd, 2010
9:39 pm
@ JeJe. after Nate Robinson went off on us last year when he was with the Knicks I definately knew the Hawks were soft.
cp
November 23rd, 2010
9:40 pm
smh it is what it is. this team just aint got it
stizz
November 23rd, 2010
9:40 pm
You talk about pissing off. Joe Johnson is gonna get run out of town keeping this up. He’s the 4th best player on the team
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
9:40 pm
Congratulations, L.D.. You, and your beloved guards, have lost yet another winnable game with isolation jumpers down the stretch. There was one good play run in the overtime period, and that was the Bibby-Horford pick-and-roll, other than that, it was mostly just lucky isolation jump shots and crawford coming off of screens. I would never have imagined that the Hawks would fall to .500 this season. I know we’re not at .500 yet, but with the way things are going right now, we are lucky to even be near .500. Can we start searching for a new player and some defensive-minded wing players now? This is becoming pathetic. At this rate, we may be in the lottery after the season.
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:41 pm
too much Brook Lopez..
Wabe
November 23rd, 2010
9:41 pm
What’s F’n sad is these players lobbied to get Drew here. They praised his style of coaching. They said he knew them and has seen what they need work on.
And they play like they don’t want him to be the guy at the helm…
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
9:42 pm
Hawks never had the lead in this game and the game was only tied 3 times… Oh yeah, this was against the Nets…
keith
November 23rd, 2010
9:42 pm
Falcons/Packers on Sunday
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
9:42 pm
It seems like it’s the same stuff every week… LD keeps saying his team isn’t playing with enthusiasm, but NOTHING is changing each game, coaching or player wise. If this keeps up LD might need to be fired…
keith
November 23rd, 2010
9:43 pm
Regression with a captial R
HB
November 23rd, 2010
9:43 pm
Would you rather be a bad team with no talent or a bad team with talent? I say trade everyone except Al and start over.
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:44 pm
we play @NYK AND @TORONTO ON B2BS. BOTH GAMES AT 1PM. TORONTO HAS BEATEN ORL (AT ORLANDO) AND BOSTON 2 DAYS AGO.
LOL
GOOD LUCK WITH JOHN WALL, HINRICH, MCGHEE, AND BLATCHE
THIS TEAM SUCKS
I AM EMBARRASSED TO BE A HAWKS FAN
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:44 pm
i would’ve stayed w/ the big lineup a bit more..
Collins should be the 2nd big off the bench. had enough of ZaZa.
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:44 pm
HORFORD CANT EVEN SAY ANYTHING TONIGHT BECAUSE HE GOT OWNED
Wabe
November 23rd, 2010
9:44 pm
Whatever Hawks…
Falcons/Packers can’t get here quick enough.
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:45 pm
LOL @ JOE’S RECENT NUMBERS. JUST WAIT TIL DECEMBER WHEN WE ACTUALLY PLAY REAL TEAMS
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm
Correction on my last post: I meant to say, can we start looking for a new coach?
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm
i dont think the Nets are that bad..
Chillin on paradise island
November 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm
If we beat the Packers, we should win out! How great will 14-2 with DOME field advantage sound?
shannon
November 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm
I hope we have a losing season..At least we will get a top draft pick..Larry drew for Coach of the Year lol
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm
tonight just proves what I’ve thought for a long time, we’re just not as talented as many think we are. The nets just had more players able to knock down big shots and get to the rack.
Sparrows vs. Nets
November 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm
Hawks playoff seeding (IF they make it): 5th or worse
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
9:47 pm
Agree HB, didn’t think it would come to that but we definitely need to start over. Al is the only player we can build around. Joe got his contract, his play has stopped. Josh Smith is way too immature and makes too many careless mistakes, also selfish at times. No true PG, we won’t go anywhere with Bibby or Teague as our PG. Jamal Crawford is clearly not right for the new type of offense we want to play, and we have NO bench whatsoever. This era of Hawks is over.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
November 23rd, 2010
9:48 pm
Fortunately I was not my computer to watch these last two games but this seems like the back to vback from hell because they got smashed by Shaq who they downplayed when he was available and got beat by the coach they let walk! Smh. This is horrible! Are The Hawks that sorry? Get them off the court! They better trade somebody or I won’t watch no more!!! Lol
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
9:48 pm
Wabe, the reason they wanted him to be their coach so bad is because he’s a player’s coach. We don’t need that now, what we need is a coach who tells the players straight like it is, THEY’RE PLAYING AWFUL, and they need to pick up their game
cory
November 23rd, 2010
9:48 pm
something needs to be done, and soon
Mike
November 23rd, 2010
9:48 pm
I think it is time to blow this team up and bring players in that want to play not this grown up sissy who cant be a 4 – 9 team. Atleast we got the Falcons and Thrashers
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:48 pm
all it takes is defense…that’s it…the Hawks don’t play it when they are fully capable of doing it…. DEFENSE….forget the offense DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE. We’ve established that we can score but can we plays some DEFENSE???
Can we bring Coach K in for a two day instructional camp. Can we please pretty please play some DEFENSE????
And no more jumpshots…the players are too good off the dribble for that. When you come off the pick go directly to the basket I don’t care if you get 6 offensive fouls we must turn around the complacency. Attack. On defense everyone crash the boards forget the fast break. No layup policy…if you see someone going for a layup knock them on the head…if its flagrant then so be it.
keith
November 23rd, 2010
9:49 pm
When the Hawks players stop caring, then its easy for fans to give up on them.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
9:50 pm
Nets shot 33 FT, we shot 13.
Guess who the aggressor was?
If we are going to go Iso at the end of games, let’s at least post up and not dribble and dribble and dribble and………
cp
November 23rd, 2010
9:50 pm
Its clear some moves have to be made but Sund has a history of staying pat so it looks like its going to be a long season of the same thing. They come out so lethargic in the first quarter that they spend most of the game trying to get back in it. Add in the inability to block out and guys not rotating and there you have the Hawks. Where is the former GM for the Blazers. I think his name was Pritchard or something.
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:50 pm
actually missing the playoffs may not be such a bad thing….we have a chance at the lottery if that happens because we got get some players that are hungry in there
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
9:52 pm
Falcons are 1st on the Power Rankings. With a win over Green Bay, we can hold that spot for the majority of the season.
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
9:52 pm
cp,
You’re gonna give nire a heart attack.
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:53 pm
dispiritedly needed the win but Hawks didnt play that bad. we are who we are. personnel catching up.
last night caught me off guard, so actually playing like they want to win was refreshing.
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
9:55 pm
MAYBE GOING TO THE LOTTERY ISNT SUCH A BAD THING. IF THE OWNERS JUST WANT ROOKIE CONTRACTS, THAT’S A GREAT WAY TO KEEP PAYROLL LOW. JUST BUY OUT THE WHOLE TEAM AND GET LOTTERY PICKS
FIRE SUND
HB
November 23rd, 2010
9:55 pm
Playing like you want to win means playing defense. They did not play defense.
cp
November 23rd, 2010
9:55 pm
Sautee he must not be a fan of Pritchard?
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:57 pm
we shoot jumpers. period. our back to basket game comes from Joe when he’s defended by smaller guards. Al’s block game doesnt scare anyone. nor will it result in a whistle too often because its not fluid and bully ball from start. inability to throw the ball down low and get positive results will haunt this team offensively. might as well prepare for jumpers and an occasional drive to hoop.
MsDee
November 23rd, 2010
9:58 pm
This is SO NOT LD’S FAULT. The Hawks arent running the plays that are drawn up nor are they hitting their shots. WE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME JAMAL AS OF LAST YEAR!!
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
9:59 pm
i saw defense out there tonight.. Nets hit big shots.
high percentage shooting came from Brooks dominance.
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
9:59 pm
All the Hawks players need to do a line before the game. Maybe they will run around some more, make some hard fouls, get aggressive, get nasty
The team is too nice. KG is not a nice guy, neither is Rondo or Delonte.
We need some players that will mix it up
ATL FAN
November 23rd, 2010
10:00 pm
Watching the Bobcats, Stephen Jackson is much better than Joe…
Sautee
November 23rd, 2010
10:00 pm
cp,
Yeah, he hates him big time.
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
10:02 pm
get ready for more speed, quickness, and size coming from the pg position in Mr. Wall.
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
10:03 pm
fk sund,get his azz out of here
MsDee
November 23rd, 2010
10:04 pm
They are suppose to be professionals, to be able to MAKE SHOTS, but we have continued to fail at that. LD is saying the right things, its just that these guys AREN’T LISTENING!!! And LD is not the same as Woody cause he HAD NO PLAN BUT LD DOES. The players are just USED TO THE BAD HABITS OF THE PAST 6 YEARS THAT JUST AREN’T GONE YET!!
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
10:06 pm
nortcyde your buddy jj sure played great(iso joe= choker) jc is hell of a lot more clutch plaaaaaaaaaaaaaayer,not aaaaaafraid like big $$$$$ choker joe
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
10:06 pm
Enter your comments here
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
10:07 pm
big gee from Wizards went for 24-18 tonight.. w/ 10 offensive boards.. better box out.
Wall 25 8-8 from line.. and thats against a solid perimeter defense in Philly.
JeJe
November 23rd, 2010
10:09 pm
FOR THE TYPE OF MONEY WE’RE PAYING HIM, JOE SHOULD BE SCORING 28 POINTS A NIGHT AND BE A LEADER
HE IS NEITHER
HE IS NO BETTER THAN STEPHEN JACKSON, JOHN SALMONS, A HEALTHY MICHAEL REDD, OR JASON RICHARDSON
THESE GUYS ALL HAVE FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR MORE HEART THAN BLOW JOHNSON
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
10:09 pm
Alright, I’m done with defending certain players and attacking L.D. mostly. I still don’t approve of what L.D. is doing, but I really think a very large portion of the blame goes to three players on our team: Joe, Josh, and Jamal. Jamal, was actually pretty decent tonight, but I’ve seen problems from him all season long. First off, there are too many players right now who want to be “the man” on the team and who think it’s all about them. We all know how Jamal and Joe like to dominate the ball and take the majority of the shots using isolation plays, but it’s becoming worse now because a third ball-hog has entered the mix. Josh Smith is becoming the Jamal Crawford of our bigs. He wants to have more shots, and it’s pretty obvious because he takes a ton of ill-advised shots when he should be passing the ball to the open man. This is yet another game where Josh is taking 20+ shots and leading the team in attempts.
Let’s get something straight here. Josh is a great player, particularly on the defensive end when it comes to weak-side help and recovery, but he’s not a great offensive player. He’s an average offensive player, at best. He is able to take advantage of his athleticism to score in a lot of scenarios and that is what he should be doing, not settling for long jumpers and not trying to go 1 vs. 3 in the post. Josh should never lead the team in field goal attempts, unless he’s the beneficiary of a ton of high-percentage shots. And that doesn’t mean, he should take those jumpers because he thinks they are high percentage shots. They aren’t. With Joe, Jamal, and Josh taking 20 shots a night, not only are we going to have trouble on defense, but the offense is going to stagnate too.
I don’t care what anyone says, Al is a much better offensive player than Josh is, and the coaching staff desperately needs to work him into the offense more. Not only that, we need to run more pick-and-roll and pick-and-pop for him. The only one that ever does that is Bibby. Also, if Marvin is going to be out on the floor, he needs to have some sort of impact on the offensive and defensive end. Considering people sag off of Marvin so often, he should be cutting to the basket more and his teammates should look for him when he’s open. As inconsistent as he is, I feel better when he’s taking a wide-open jump shot or 3 from the corner, than when Josh is taking those same shots.
Also, I’m sick and tired of all of the jumpshooting. Goodness, L.D., do you know how to run anything that doesn’t involve Joe or Jamal? Just because Joe and Jamal are good perimeter scorers doesn’t mean that when the Hawks need a basket, it has to be them taking the shot. I thought this new system was supposed to feature post-ups and back-cuts? It almost takes a miracle for someone to throw Al the ball in the post, and it happens maybe once a game, at most, that someone runs baseline and catches a backdoor pass. The Hawks should not be a jumpshooting team. With the personnel we have, this is not how we should be playing. L.D. is not utilizing our strengths efficiently at all when he does this. If your starting five included Bibby, Reddick, and Korver, with a stretch 4, then maybe there’d be motivation for basing your entire offense upon guys coming off of screens and shooting the ball, since that is what they are best at, but that is just not the Hawks. Marvin might as well be team’s water boy with the way he is utilized. Also, Horford might as well be Marcus camby on the offensive end, with the way the offense treats him.
I don’t care if Joe, Jamal, and Josh pout about not getting enough touches on the offensive end, we need to kill the long jumpers when they are not there, and stop letting guys go 1 vs. 3 when we run into trouble. So many time during that overtime period, I saw Joe and Josh make bonehead plays in traffic, trying to be heroes. At the same time, I saw crawford taking long jumper after long jumper (a lot of them happened to fall, so it didn’t look that bad). One time, we ran a pick and roll with Horford and Bibby and it led to a high percentage 2 points. Then, we decided to revert back to the Woodson clinic.
L.D. needs to get his head out of Jamal’s read end, and take his hand out of Joe’s pants, and learn to coach his team to their advantages. How many times has this been said before? I’m sick of the favoritism and lack of accountability from our preacher coach.
Big Ray
November 23rd, 2010
10:11 pm
Smoove took a similar stance on all the talking.
“If that [stuff] penetrates, then we should be good,” he said. “If it gets shrugged off, then maybe not. We are about to see.”
Smoove needs to take his own damn advice. Stop pouting, shaking your head, etc when the calls don’t go right. Smoove’s intensity level was like a roller coaster tonight. It was up and down, then it stopped.
The Funniest Thing I EVER Heard !
November 23rd, 2010
10:11 pm
The players are just USED TO THE BAD HABITS OF THE PAST 6 YEARS THAT JUST AREN’T GONE YET!! This Blog…. This Team ….Pure Comedy!!
YoDaddy
November 23rd, 2010
10:11 pm
John Wall predicted stat line
35 pts, 15 assists, 11 rebs, 3 steals, 2 blocks
Big Ray
November 23rd, 2010
10:16 pm
Blog monster just ate three straight posts of mine….WTF….
bigdave
November 23rd, 2010
10:17 pm
i just dont get the premise in the criticism of Josh Smith. especially the accusation that he’s selfish..
im all for him getting his shots, being that he’s the lone Hawk that contributes in all facets of the game consistently. keep him engaged and not just watching. he could’ve been at the line @ least 3-4 more times tonight..
Bibbster
November 23rd, 2010
10:17 pm
it’s a long season, Hawks will be ok
Big Ray
November 23rd, 2010
10:17 pm
I think we are very solidy headed in a direction we haven’t seen in quite some time. Yep…..below .500 basketball. I’m serious.
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
10:20 pm
why is it that every team has players who knock down the 3 against us,it is because we let them.why cant we, it is because we only have 2 players capable (not really enough) bibby & jc. , maybe jc2 who ld didnt even plaaaaaaay,whyyyyyy what the hell. where was teague at the end of the game,bibby couldnt begin to slow down harris. like i said i want to be able to like ld.i know the hawks arent really good,woody was horrible but i guess he wasnt eally that bad,break this core up. i always said that putting the ball in jj hands at the end of games was a real bad think well i guess im right again. of course this is coming from a guy who watched & loved the knicks in the 70′S, a team that knew how to play team ball. this team will never really know how to due this & the biggest culprit is our 124m man,what a gigantic mistake we made
Patrick
November 23rd, 2010
10:24 pm
And another thing, I really feel bad for the players who do care and want to win, but have no control over the situation due to the coach and teammates taking over, completely. There are guys like Mo Evans out there who at least play with some fire and intensity, even if they only get to play a few minutes each game, yet they are never rewarded. Sometimes, as a player, the most frustrating thing is when you hate what is going on, but no matter how good you play, you can’t do anything about what is going on, because the situation is out of your hands. I know how frustrating that can be.
Where is your esteemed accountability, L.D.? Does it only apply to players who are new to the team or to players whose names are not Joe or Jamal. No matter how bad Joe and Jamal play, they will never be punished with less playing time. If anything, they will be rewarded with more, because you just “need to get them into a rhythm”. And no matter how much you say that the ball needs to move, if the Hawks get into a tight spot, you know you are just going to allow one of those two isolate all night long and ruin the game with no consequences. Oh, and on the reverse end of the spectrum, guys who have actually proven that they deserve minutes will never get them if they are not your favorite players. Jordan Crawford has actually been pretty effective when he’s played. He’s made some rookie mistakes, but it’s been nothing worse than what we’ve seen out of our ball-hogs who can’t hide behind the rookie excuse.
Under L.D., the team may never utilize the full potential of Horford, Jordan, Teague, or anyone else who is willing to play hard regardless of the situation. Maybe one of the reasons why Teague is so timid is because almost every play that the Hawks run involves him having to pass the ball to Joe or Jamal. Aside from that, Teague can’t really run anything with the bigs, because he typically only plays when Powell and Zaza are in, and even if he spoon feeds them with a perfect pass under the basket, they can’t finish the play.
Will the strategy ever change under this coach, with the group of players that we have right now?
Bailey
November 23rd, 2010
10:30 pm
OMG! Indiana is even ahead of us in the standings, now. I’m even scared about the fact that our next game is on national television. It’s like we’re just giving the media more fuel to mock us, and the non-Atlanta basketball fans more reason to make fun of the team and talk trash.
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
10:36 pm
LOL @ Rusty. Jamal shot the ball well tonight, despite the turnovers and bad defense. Now, if we can only get him to play defense like he shoots sometimes, we’d be in business.
As for JJ, the criticizm is valid. Dude has to make at least 2 of the 4 OT shots that he missed. Can’t go 0 – 4. That’s unacceptable. It’s like I said earlier in the day. If JJ is going to shoot that poorly, he must get to the FT line to balance things out.
LOL @ letting the Nets beat us. The temperature is on BROIL now.
mykhalc
November 23rd, 2010
10:37 pm
packers @ falcons…waitin’ on it!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
November 23rd, 2010
10:40 pm
“actually missing the playoffs may not be such a bad thing….we have a chance at the lottery if that happens because we got get some players that are hungry in there”
This is going to be one of the weakest drafts in years. A lottery pick in this draft is like a 15-20 pick in any other draft.
northcyde
November 23rd, 2010
10:52 pm
Patrick . . . the problem is that Mo Evans, for the most part, is garbage as well. He can be as passionte as he wants, but he also has to be effective.
It’s funny. People used to pull their hair out, because they wanted the Hawks to run, run, run.
Heck, we hardly ever run anymore. In fact, I think we’re playing at a slower pace this year, than last year.
O'Brien
November 23rd, 2010
10:53 pm
Josh Smith: 1-6 from outside the paint. And the only shot he made was his first attempt.
I dont know whats wrong with JJ, but he needs to get it going. When’s the last time he had 20+ points? Against Utah. 5 or 6 games ago
Clyde
November 23rd, 2010
10:54 pm
You can’t turn a ho into a housewife and you can’t turn Horford into a center.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
10:56 pm
Hopefully the Lakers will beat the Bulls tonight and at least we are guarantee a loss by Orlando or Heat tomorrow..
Clyde
November 23rd, 2010
10:58 pm
Thank you Blog Monster for letting me post. He was eating my posts on this blog and LiL Ray’s blog.
Atlanta Fawkers
November 23rd, 2010
10:58 pm
CLEAN HOUSE NOW AND BUILD FOR THE FUTURE!!!
Because there is no future with present cast of losers. Go get your Tiger Woods on Josh Smith. Bet you a limo is at hotel tonight for players to go out. LOSERS!!!!!!!
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 23rd, 2010
10:59 pm
Clyde
November 23rd, 2010
10:54 pm
You can’t turn a ho into a housewife and you can’t turn Horford into a center.
……..
lol
QB
November 23rd, 2010
11:03 pm
First I have been to every game Josh Smith has improved his jump shot and is making it more consistently than last year. In my opinion he is the defense for the Hawks if he doesnt blcok a shot or get a rebound then its over. Horford should get a double double every night but when he outside shooting 18 foot jump shots that takes him away from rebounding. To me the only person that fills up that stat sheet every night is Smoove. Keep in mind he is only 24 so no way do u trade a guy like him. Everuody else beside Horford can be traded for the right deal in my opinion.
Melvin
November 23rd, 2010
11:18 pm
Remind me why we couldnt use T-Mac as Marvin backup again…
http://www.nba.com/video/games/wizards/2010/11/23/0021000205_phi_was_play3.nba/index.html
Ramon
November 23rd, 2010
11:29 pm
Josh and Joe are the only defensive minded players on this team. Joe shot isn’t falling, But he’s still playing great man to man defense. That is overlook when his shooting is failing. I would rather have a roster with players who can stop you from scoring 90 points any given night, over a line up that can score 110 any given night. However, LD seems to feel differently.
It frustrates me game after game, seeing LD go with a lineup of Bibby, JC1, Joe, Josh, Al. No matter how many points this lineup may create. It is almost a foregone conclusion that this lineup will give up more points. Tonight, Teague actually played pretty well. His defense on Harris lead to the Nets going scoreless for long stretches at time. However, in the fourth quarter, LD stuck with his offensive lineup, although the major problem was New Jersey’s back court scoring.
This isn’t the first game in which LD has made such substitution patterns. And LD says he will hold players accountable on the defensive end, yet I still don’t see it. How can you make that statement, and Mike Bibby still records 35 minutes while only having 3 assists, and 5 shot attempts. While the opposing PG goes for 27 and 10 assists. To make it worse, Teague, in limited play, had a +9 tonight. Teague had 2 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals in only 16 minutes. And kept Harris from making so many shots.
I’m beginning to wonder did we trade an all defensive, no offense minded coach for an all offensive, no defense minded coach? When will we have a coach who values both? And doesn’t compromise nor simply makes the easy call?
Also how did JC2 manage to not get a single minute in this game?
One last question, does a half priced coach, get you half priced coaching?
Samuel
November 23rd, 2010
11:31 pm
Told Yall.
Woody>LD
Ramon
November 23rd, 2010
11:39 pm
Samuel, you may be right. However, that doesn’t mean much about Woody, it just describes LD. Saying your D- minus child is better than my F child, may make you feel better. But fact is both of our kids are heading to summer school.
Bailey
November 23rd, 2010
11:44 pm
When can we cut ties with L.D.? It’s not like firing him early is really going to put a dent in the pockets of the ASG, considering that he’s the lowest paid coach in the league. Joe could pay for L.D.’s entire salary with just his pocket change.
uga-brave
November 23rd, 2010
11:45 pm
so at waht point do you realize that josh smith is the problem?
we have the only poward forward in the nba that cant play with his back to the basket.
his idea of defense is the blocked shot.
his footwork stinks.
he plays ZERO off the ball defense.
his idea of defense is let them catch it and try to block it.
well he can jump high.
he is stealing minutes from a true post guy, horford.
he can jump high.
he pouts, how long?
he cant go right.
ever heard of a dropstep and a head fake?
rusty
November 23rd, 2010
11:55 pm
they all suck,will things ever get better with this team
uga-brave
November 23rd, 2010
11:56 pm
i will say it again, what has josh smith added to his game?
AT some point you would think he would improve his game as a poward forward.
back to the basket? a drop step? a head fake? anything?
should rent him kevin mchale’s video about how to play the four.
nothing ZIP.
jumping high and blocking shots with your left hand does not make you a good poward forward.
uga-brave
November 23rd, 2010
11:58 pm
watch karl malone, and his ability to pass inside.
we have a four. horford. play him there.
trade josh.
Von
November 23rd, 2010
11:58 pm
I like Josh, but uga-brave makes some good points. To strengthen your argument, not only does Josh steal minutes, he also steals field goal attempts. Josh isn’t the only problem, but I agree that he is one of them. 21 shots tonight for Josh? What the hell is going on there?
uga-brave
November 24th, 2010
12:03 am
von, josh is a coach killer. woody knew it. babied him.
this team would be better off signing crawford, and trading josh.
uga-brave
November 24th, 2010
12:05 am
von, your best post guy should be a good interior passer. horford is. josh?
hawkfan
November 24th, 2010
2:45 am
after looking at the bulls-lakers game the bulls actually played with heart and effort even though they still lost they actually played defense, when can we say that about our team? I feel we are sinking beyond our control and something needs to happen, bailey maybe national television is what we need to gear up more effort, if we get blown out that game we get embarrased on a larger scale but if we win good then we gain back some confidence, who knows right now
terrell
November 24th, 2010
10:31 am
uga-brave, you wanna trade Josh, but fail to mention Marvin? What’s up with that? If you want Horford at PF, move Josh to sf. Cant be any worse than Marvin. In fact, he showed (when Marvin was out) that he’s BETTER than Marvin at sf.
terrell
November 24th, 2010
10:35 am
And uga, if Horford moves to pf, we wouldnt have a starting caliber center to replace him. Twin? lol! Zaza? Please! Etan? Get real!
steve
November 24th, 2010
9:27 pm
Marvin Williams is garbage it make me sick to see that guy as a starter in the NBA everybody please watch this guy during the game it like he’s scared and this dude has been in the league over five years thats the hawks problem you gets nothing from his spot.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
November 25th, 2010
4:08 am
I wish we had morrow