Atlanta Hawks at New Jersey Nets: ‘Defense is hard.’ Are the Hawks?

Newark, N.J–Over and over the coach preaches defense. He tells his players to execute the coverages, give maximum effort, and stay after it even when (or especially when) things get hard. Most of his preparation time is spent on defense. Pretty much all of his talks are about stopping opponents.

And yet despite all of this, the coach says his team doesn’t do these things to his satisfaction.

Not, I’m not talking about L.D. This was Doc Rivers talking last night before his Celtics waylaid the Hawks. He was asked if things like defensive intensity and focus come from players and not coaches.

“It comes from both. As good as we are at times, last year we were up and down all year. I think that’s a sell every night. It’s just easier to play offense. Defense is hard, and defense is every possession. Defense is hunger and focus and being down on the weak side every single time. It’s amazing how many times we show film of guys standing straight up. It’s hard. Defense is hard. To do it every night is hard to do. As a coach and your whole staff, we harp on it every single day. We could have an 80-point game [allowed] and I could show you 10 times in a game we got lucky and they missed a shot and we were not right. [Defense] comes from all five doing it all the time, where on offense you can have one guy make a shot and it works out for you. Defense, it is just hard.”

While he was saying that I’m thinking: If Doc Rivers has to constantly prod proud, veteran, tough-minded players to get them to do these things, then what chance does L.D. have of getting his younger, volatile, fragile players to play that way?

Mo had the telling quote after last night’s debacle: “The Celtics know who they are. We don’t have an identity, unless it’s when things go bad we go the other way. Maybe that’s out identity and we don’t know it.”

Maybe that’s how it is. Maybe it takes certain kind of players to play the way the Celtics play, and maybe the Hawks don’t have any (or enough) of those players. L.D. says he “very rarely talks about offense” and harps on defense but maybe there’s nothing he can do to make this group of players buy in to that.

“You can look at certain teams with certain players and you can see when the game hits a certain point where players they seem to take over, see certain teams when the game hits a certain point they tighten the screws up,” Drew said before the Boston game. “You can certainly see that. I don’t think we are there yet. I think we have to keep working on it. I do think we can get there. We have the personnel to get there. But we are not quite there.”

The day after

The Hawks players talked after the Celtics game. L.D. said the team met for breakfast this morning and watched video.

“Didn’t want to dwell on it, just wanted to make some points on it and then get ready for New Jersey,” he said.

So I asked Al if he their minds are right.

“We’ll see,” he said. “I’d rather hold all of my thoughts until once we get out here and play. We cant talk about certain stuff but we have to go out there and do it on the floor.”

Smoove took a similar stance on all the talking.

“If that [stuff] penetrates, then we should be good,” he said. “If it gets shrugged off, then maybe not. We are about to see.”

Party time?

L.D. elaborated on his postgame comments last night, in which he seemed to intimate the Hawks are doing too much partying before games.

“I didn’t say party,” he said. “We are not starting the game with a lot of energy. I don’t know if I am practicing them too hard. I don’t know if I am not practicing them hard enough. I don’t know if they are out at night. I don’t know what it is. It is something that is zapping our energy at the very beginning of our ballgame. It is something I have got to figure out what is going on with our team because we are too athletic to start at such a low energy level. Hopefully we will bounce back tonight.”

No rest for J.J.

One of the items the !$%^# blog monster ate last night concerned J.J.’s sore left hand. He got hit on the top of the hand during the preseason and still grimaces and favors it at times.

Good luck trying to get him to reveal how much it’s really bothering him.

“I’ve just got to deal with it,” Joe said. “The only thing that can keep it from hurting is resting but we don’t have time for that. I have to play through it. It’s nothing major.”

The fact that J.J. is wearing that bulky glove on the hand suggests it’s a problem. He said he would continue to wear it (”Got no choice) and that it doesn’t bother his shooting. The hand is not as sore after games when he wears the glove.

L.D. thinks the hand is bothering Joe more than he’s letting on. Would he consider taking the decision from Joe and giving him an extended rest?

“I will consider it, but a high probability of giving him time off? No,” Drew said. “We will probably just try to rest him days that we are not playing, especially when we have a couple days in between. Let him get it treated and keep him out. With those type injuries they always start to feel good and then you get it banged again and it becomes a lingering thing through the season.”

No T-Will for Nets

Nets swingman Terrence Williams (Go Cards) is out for two games due to disciplinary reasons. Dang, T-Will, get it together and rep The Ville right.

MC

376 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
9:09 pm

Great post D by Horford.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm

Joe’s dumb azz tried to pull the same sh-t he did against the Magic back in March.

Rev in Tampa

November 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm

Nets are shooting 75% this quarter. Hawks are 72%. Just a little defense by teh Hawks would get them the w

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm

Terrible call on Josh.

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm

Where’s the foul call????

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm

“Nimbers”

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm

Jamal got foul on that 3…

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm

big shot from Jamal..

JeJe

November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm

IF U WANNA TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY THEN DO NOT START MARVIN WILLIAMS EVER AGAIN.

THIS GUY ISN’T HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR !@#$. THERE’S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE FOR THIS PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A BASKETBALL PLAYER

Rev in Tampa

November 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm

Finally the Hawks D has decided to show up…

cp

November 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm

I dont complain about the refs often but damn can the Hawks get a foul call

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm

Need to put Marvin or Mo in for this defensive possesion…

Patrick

November 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm

Wow, was Jamal just playing defense there? A block from Jamal? I’m still in shock over that. If only Josh would learn to pass the ball when he’s trapped in the paint with 3 defenders around him, we may have the lead right now.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm

Great defense by the Hawks. No idea what Avery Johnson was thinking — why the hell would you run a play for Outlaw instead of keeping the ball in Harris’ hands?

Rev in Tampa

November 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm

Good d by Jamal. Good to see he has it in him

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm

Hawks got lucky on the rebound b/c they didnt box out…

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm

Jamal and Mike Bibby have stepped up there on ball defense..

YoDaddy

November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm

all it takes is a little defense……play some defense and you will win more games…

It’s infallible proof….Pistons, Spurs, Celtics, Lakers….all the previous champs played some defense

Just take this last 5 minutes and build off of it

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm

Take you Joe for taking it strong to the basket and making the ref call the foul… You see that big dave…

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm

Joe got away with a little push off action there.

The Hawks clearly have the athletes to be an elite defensive and rebounding team. It’s really just about intensity.

JeJe

November 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm

JUST HIT A JAMAL 3 AND LETS GTFOH

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:16 pm

nylons from da jigga man..

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:16 pm

Take Bibby and Jamal out for this defensive possesion.

Rev in Tampa

November 23rd, 2010
9:16 pm

Have the Hawks out-rebounded anybody this year?

Bibbster

November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm

big dave,

Joe finally got a foul call b/c he created enough contact to force the refs to blow the whistle…

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm

yea.. Melvin.. throwback discussion right there.. lol.

i saw him though with the wicky wade action..

Bibbster

November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm

from da bench

YoDaddy

November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm

I know this is the NETS but we need to put the last 5 minutes in a bottle. I can’t believe I saw some defense from the Hawks…take the ball to the rim and get fouled….the game is simple.

We need to stop a buzzer beater. If it goes to OT we will win

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
9:18 pm

I haven’t seen the Hawks play with this much intensity since their game against the Magic at home in March.

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:18 pm

why is Jamal still on the floor???

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:18 pm

yea.. but thats what you are supposed to do when you are in a bad situation with a defender in the air..

i still will argue that you should focus on ur shot..

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm

lol.. Melvin

Devin should have done it right there.. lol

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm

Pretty good D by the Hawks on that last possession, although Smoove left his feet at the end and got lucky that Harris didn’t jump in to him.

cp

November 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm

Good Defense

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm

Overtime… Now lets get our swagger back…

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm

good basketball right here..

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm

big dave,

Devin totally messed up that play. He took too long to start his drive..

YoDaddy

November 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm

forget the jumpshots attack the rim….too much athleticism to be shooting jumpers the entire game

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm

big dave,

I wish Joe would have did that against Chandler in the Mavs game but look like he learn from that mistake.

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm

i like the 2 man game w/ Joe and Josh we were seeing in the half court

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:22 pm

yep.. he had him..

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
9:22 pm

Already the Hawks have started overtime without the same intensity they had at the end of the 4th.

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm

Nets got away with a travel and over the back on the same play…SMH

J.J.M.

November 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm

josh never gets foul calls

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm

they should rename Marta after Devin Harris..

dude spin is pure transportation.

YoDaddy

November 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm

I thought we would come out in Overtime ready to take the game…guess not

YoDaddy

November 23rd, 2010
9:24 pm

ball don’t lie

bigdave

November 23rd, 2010
9:24 pm

2 traveling violations on that Harris spin.. smh