Atlanta Hawks: Celtics 99, Hawks 76

Shaq and the C's pounded the Hawks. (AP Photo)

Shaq and the C's pounded the Hawks. (AP Photo)

– I wondered if L.D. would try to keep an even keel after this beat down. You know, try not to overreact to a bad regular-season loss. Keep it in perspective. Say something soothing instead of the something scathing.

– Nope. Not even close. He finally emerged 20 minutes after the game ended and ripped his team for its second surrender in the last two weeks.

– “This was very, very embarrassing,” he said. “If I had to sum it up in one word: embarrassing. To come out with that type energy; that type urgency. What I see with our team right now I don’t feel real good about.”

– The scene was eerily similar to the aftermath of the Orlando series. Bickering players, poor body language, lack of resolve and booing fans during the game. Quiet locker room and questions about character after it. “We came out tonight and didn’t compete,” Jamal said.

– Same group, new coach, and so far the same results. Actually, I can’t even say same results since the Hawks beat some good teams along the way to 53Ws and the No. 3 seed. They haven’t beaten any yet this season. The Hawks are supposed to match up better with the Celtics, especially with Rajon Rondo (ankle) in street clothes.

– Matchups hardly matter when the Hawks fail to show up. “We have some soul-searching to do,” Al said. “I don’t think we are [accountable]. We tend to have excuses for everything.”

– “I never would have thought we would come out so not ready to play,” J.J. said. “They remember we swept them last season. They wanted to come in and send a message and they did it.”

– Not surprisingly, there were some flareups in Atlanta’s huddles. At one point Al tried to huddle up the team and calm things down. “Guys have got to understand you can’t be sensitive to policing,” Josh said.

– “I am disappointed that we are not playing with a hunger,” L.D. said. “We are looking to point fingers. We are playing the blame game. More importantly, our energy level is not good at all. We are not doing things quick, we are not doing things with speed, we are not doing things with urgency.”

– The Hawks again looked more sluggish at the start than an opponent that had played the day before. The same thing happened against Milwaukee and Dallas.

– “We are playing like we are coming off a back-to-back-to-back,” Drew said. “I told the guys I don’t know what you are doing the night before we play, I don’t know what you are doing away from the floor. Something is going on that is not allowing us to play with an energy and passion that we should be playing with. As a head coach, I’ve got to find out what it is.”

Nate Robinson ran circles around the Hawks in the opening three minutes with five points and two assists. Plenty of open shots were available for the Celtics and they made most of them. Boston collected pretty much every Atlanta miss.

– “Something is going on and I’ve got to get to the bottom of it,” L.D. said. “Players have to know themselves. They have to know their bodies. They have to know how to get physically and mentally ready for every game, especially at the start. First four minutes of the game, when I see my players bending over grabbing their shorts because they are winded, something is going on. Something is wrong.”

– The Hawks never really threatened to rally after Boston’s opening barrage. The Celtics’ older, experienced heads schooled the younger, faster and more athletic Hawks.

– “We never hit back,” Joe said. “We made it real easy for them.”

– “The Celtics know who they are,” Mo said. “We don’t have an identity, unless it’s when things go bad we go the other way. Maybe that’s out identity and we don’t know it.”

– Before the game, L.D. said he thinks the Hawks hadn’t yet figured out how to “tighten the screws up” when they face adversity but he believes they have the personnel to do so. The close losses to Phoenix, Orlando, Dallas and Utah and the beat downs from Milwaukee and Boston suggest otherwise.

– “We start making excuses,” L.D. said. “We start getting on the officials. We start getting on teammates. All of those things start to seep in when things aren’t going well. That’s not a good sign at all.”

– L.D. has talked about accountability. What can he do once he figures out the problem with his players? “I’ve got to address it with each individual,” he said. “If I see something wrong, I have to address it. It can’t be sugarcoated.”

– Sorry for not posting the usual pregame blog post. I had it written and it was a masterpiece. But when I tried to post it the blog monster turned on its owner and ate it, leaving behind no remains to salvage.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.


218 comments Add your comment


November 22nd, 2010
11:29 pm

Jo Crawford

start that team and pull anyone that plays no d for 5 games. Things will look up.

Loserville USA

November 22nd, 2010
11:41 pm

GET THE BUNCO SQUAD. Team should be arrested for FRAUD. 38 wins max.


November 22nd, 2010
11:41 pm


Is there any indication changes may be coming? Somebody is a cancer to this team and I have heard far too many times of players out partying and getting wasted on nights before games smh.


November 22nd, 2010
11:43 pm



November 22nd, 2010
11:45 pm

The best thing about tonight is that the Heat and Magic lost…


November 22nd, 2010
11:46 pm

I’m all in with a change to the starting line up.

Teague at PG
JC2 at SG
Smith at SF
Horford at PF
Collins at C

Send a message to everyone on the team to hustle and play with heart and passion. I’m tired of these players not trying hard enough it also seems like there are issues in the locker room someone needs to investigate on that. Just saying.

Joe's place Joe speaking

November 22nd, 2010
11:47 pm


What do you think should happen? What other options do we have to make this team more competitive? I’m at a loss for words, honestly.

SWAT Native

November 22nd, 2010
11:51 pm

I got an email this evening for a party with Keri Hilson and the Hawks on Thursday night. That’s a big part of their problem right there.


November 22nd, 2010
11:54 pm

That’s what I’m saying, Ray, that’s what I’m saying. That starting 5 will play with passion and listen to Coach. For 5 games, it hopefully burns a passion in Joe, who earns back the 2 from Jo C again. People talk like 4 years of one lineup is a good thing. It’s not if you haven’t achieved anything. Just breeds complacency. Tomorrow is when LD separates himself from Woodrow or doesn’t. We’ll know who he is in 19 hours. What do you say, MC? LD with a new lineup? Or same ol’ non-accountability that Riles, Phil or Doc would never tolerate?


November 22nd, 2010
11:59 pm

And to make things worse, Joe just finished a 500 $ meal after that performance.


November 22nd, 2010
11:59 pm

havent we been down by about 20 in some of those ” close” losses. sorry that aint good enough.

Post-Game Entertainment

November 22nd, 2010
11:59 pm

Excerpt from the next Hawks’ next players-only meeting:

*** By the way, keep in mind that this is all in good humor and not meant to offend anyone. It’s just fictional speculation for some fun.***

Al Horford: Come on, guys, we can’t keep getting blown out like this. It’s an embarrassment. Where’s the effort? This isn’t how we did it back in Gainesville. We need to keep the ball moving. That’s when we’re at our best.

Joe Johnson: Listen, man. Don’t be worryin’ ’bout dat. Y’all just need to give me more room to operate out there. Git me da ball and clear out, man. Ain’t nobody else need to be taking shots out there.

Jamal: Joe, I think I need some shots too. I need to get my averages up to get a new contract. It’s tough to play out there, always thinking about what’s going to happen in my future. I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that.

Joe: Na, man. You strugglin’ out there. Just get me da ball, man. I’m an All-star.

Teague: Guys, who should I pass the ball to tomorrow night? Do I pass to Joe or Jamal first? Do you think maybe I could take a shot tomorrow night?

Joe: Na, man. Ain’t nobody pay no attention to you out there, man. Just defer to me when I’m out there and make sure my gatorade is cold when I’m on the bench. Don’t be passing the ball to Josh out there either. He trippin, lately.

Josh Smith: I ain’t trippin, brotha. These refs are hatin’ on me, man. I was fouled on every play last night and didn’t even get one call. Why don’t y’all pass me the ball more when I’m open on the wing, man? Y’all know I be drainin’ threes out there to get us back in it.

Zaza: Hey, guys, how do you like my new scarf? Does anyone want to go shopping after the meeting? You need to dress better for the post-game interviews, guys.

Jeff: I voted for you as best dressed, Zaza.

Zaza: Thanks, Jeff. I’ll pass you the ball tomorrow.

Mo: Seriously, guys, what’s going on? What the hell were you all doing out there tonight?

Al: We’re playing selfish basketball and not executing on the offensive end. We’re not playing with intensity out there on defense either. Guys, this is getting embarrassing. We need to play with a sense of pride out there. We need to tighten up on defense and help each other out as a team. Hey, Mike? How about running some more pick and roll and pick and pop for me?

Mike: Yeah, Al. I’m down with that. Stop moving so fast out there though. Give me a few minutes to get down the court before setting that screen. You know I can’t keep up with you youngins out there.

Josh: Yeah, man. Y’all need to let me post up more too, man. Ain’t nobody can stop my pump fakes and up-and-unders on that low box. When you can’t find me in the post, just work the ball around the perimeter and find me on the wing for a three. Man, I’ve been wide open out there a lot lately. I’m gone make it rain, man.

Zaza: Smoove, can you help me work on my pump fake? Guys don’t ever seem to go for it when I try to pump fake.

Josh: That’s because you suck, bruh. By the way, did y’all see my highlights on Sportscenter the other night? That shi* was off the hook, man. I’m going be an All-Star this year. Y’all need to throw me some more lobs.

Al: Josh, stop throwing me those crazy lob passes from half court. You’re wasting our possessions. Don’t try and make something that isn’t there. Just follow the game plan and stick to the offense. We need to stop running so much isolation out there and making lazy, bailout passes.

Jordan Crawford: Guys, I think I can help too. Coach won’t give me any minutes though. I can’t wait to get out there and take a shot one of these days. The first chance I get, I’m going to chuck one up there.

Joe: Pipe down, rook’. Ain’t nobody paying no attention to you. Where’s my Gatorade, man?

Mo: Guys, I’m with Al on this one. We need to play more team defense and share the ball. Find the open man, and make those open looks. My knee is feeling a lot better now, I think I can really help out with the bench play too.

Jamal: Don’t worry about playing time, Mo. Just let your knee heal up. Coach doesn’t want your defense out there anyway. He’s going to give me all of your minutes so that I feel more comfortable and get into a rhythm shooting the ball. Besides, Marvin is really going to step it up this year. He knows where all of his shots are coming from.

Joe: Who? Man, who’s this Marvin y’all are talking about?

Zaza: I think that’s the guy who comes late to practice in that ugly Jacket and his PJs. He looks like a bum. I really need to give him a makeover.

Marvin: *snore* (in the corner)

Al: Come on guys. You perimeter players need to really start playing with more aggression out there. Jamal, you need to pick up your energy level on defense and recovery to the open man when he’s right next to you, even if it isn’t your man.
Jamal: What’s defense?

Al: And Mike, try to fight through those screens when teams are setting picks out there. I’m having to switch onto your man too much. I get tired of chasing little guards around the perimeter.

Mike: No prob, Al. But I need to take it easy. I want to play in the league for another ten years, so I need to pace myself. Besides, you’re a better perimeter defender than me anyway, and when my man blows by me Josh will be there to get another highlight block.

Josh: Yeah! You know how I do, bruh. Oh, and don’t be so selfish with the ball out there either, man. Don’t worry about setting up the offense out there, Mike. You know, I can play point too. I’m such a great passer. I can do everything. Just let me handle the ball more and I’ll run the offense.

Joe: Hey, man. Let’s not get carried away with all of this motion offense nonsense and sharing the ball. Everbody knows that ain’t none of that stuff works, man. That just gets us into playing all helter-skelter out there, man. Look, man, y’all don’t need to worry bout offense out there. Just get me da ball, man.

Al: But Joe, what if you get double or triple-teamed out there while you isolate?

Joe: Don’t worry, man, I’ll just pass da ball to you or Josh at the last second.

Mo: Coach wants us to trust the motion system, guys, not just isolate all the time. You guys need to stop ball-hogging out there and play the right way.

Josh: Yeah, man. Why’s Joe and Jamal taking 20 shots a game out there and I’m only getting’ 15, brotha? I need at least 20 jumpers each night too, and some dunks too. How’s a brotha supposed to make sportscenter without some lobs?

Joe: C’mon, man. Y’all need to stop listenin’ to coach out there. Y’all act like he know sumtin. He don’t know nothin’, man. That scrub barely played when he was in the league.

Zaza: Yeah, I don’t like coach either. He always wears those ugly suits. He doesn’t understand fashion at all and he takes me out of the game right away when I get my shot blocked by a point guard. I’m not going to let him eat at my restaurant anymore.

Al: Guys, I like how we’ve progressed as a team, but we just aren’t getting it done out there anymore. This team has some serious problems. You bench players need to step it up out there. We all need to step it up. It has to be a total team effort.

Joe: Chill, Al. We know what to do, man. I’ve been runnin’ this team for a long time, man. Listen’, man, I just had an off night and didn’t shoot enough last game. I’ll be better next time. Just give me about 10 more shots tomorrow and don’t be worryin’ bout what coach says. Just defer to me.

Jeff: Ok, that sounds good, Joe. I’ll be really aggressive passing you the ball tomorrow night.

Josh: Aight, man. This meetin’ is too long, when we goin’ to the club? Don’t worry about basketball man, we’ll just win the next one. Our next opponents are scrubs anyway.

Joe: Yeah, man. Y’all know how I roll. Let’s hit up the club scene now, man.

Marvin: Guys, can I come too? Oh, and we’re not going to an expensive club are we? You know I don’t like to overspend.

Joe: It’s all good, Duck. You can come wit us. Don’t even trip bout da bills either, man. I could buy these clubs with my pocket change, man. Yo, Jeff. You can come too, man. You can hold my coat.

Jeff: Sure, Joe. I won’t get it dirty. I promise.

Zaza: Guys, hang on a sec. I want to come too. I need to change my clothes first though. This shirt is ugly and doesn’t match my suede boots.

Mo: Al, our team is a joke. *sigh*

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
12:00 am

LMAO… the blog monster victimizes you too? That’s hilarious.

For those of you who want to combat the blog monster, if you use Firefox, there is a plugin called Lazarus that allows you to recall what you typed by right clicking in the box and choosing the text you typed from a menu. It can’t stop the blog monster from swallowing your post, but it will allow you to not have to type in everything again.


November 23rd, 2010
12:01 am

Same starting 5 in Dec, and I’m officially off the LD train. Especially Marvin. He’d be the last man standing at the neighborhood pickup game.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
12:02 am

“Before the game, L.D. said he thinks the Hawks hadn’t yet figured out how to “tighten the screws up” when they face adversity but he believes they have the personnel to do so. The close losses to Phoenix, Orlando, Dallas and Utah and the beat downs from Milwaukee and Boston suggest otherwise. “We start making excuses,” L.D. said. “We start getting on the officials. We start getting on teammates. All of those things start to seep in when things aren’t going well. That’s not a good sign at all.””

LD is not responsible for the personnel. If he were to say anything else, it would be construed as a sign of excuse-making. LD, at least publicly, needs to be saying that he has the personnel and they just have to execute and “tighten the screws”, or else it just opens the door for players to assume they can’t win either.

Player personnel is Rick Sund’s responsibility, and if by now he doesn’t realize that this core isn’t going anywhere, the DASG needs to fire his azz.


November 23rd, 2010
12:04 am

@ Me lol(sounds like I’m talking to myself)

I think your best bet is LD going with the same ol’ non-accountability cause now he’s looking like he’s all talk just like old man Woodrow. I already didn’t like the fact they brought him in now it’s looking even worse.

Even still can’t place all this on LD it really is the players there are some that are playing with fire in their stomach burning, but then you got a few playing for other reasons.

I feel like JC1 and Joe are the cancer’s on this team plus a few bench players like Marvin and Thomas(he’s actually garbage not a cancer).

I have an bad feeling though about one player it is Josh Smith. I’ve supported him for a long time and don’t want him to leave, but what if he was the cancer along with the others? That could be a big time problem


November 23rd, 2010
12:05 am

Cant believe they’re still calling Philips the highlight factory.


November 23rd, 2010
12:06 am

Ray, Josh has been the ONLY consistent player on the Hawks this year. And I mean ONLY.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
12:08 am

LMAO @ Post-Game Entertainment. I hope Jamal reads that and passes it on to the rest of the team.


November 23rd, 2010
12:10 am

I think Jamal and JJ are filling the young guys head with stuff like “LD sux”, “the motion offense sux”, “why is making us run so much at practice”,, “why should we listen to an 18 yr assistant”,etc…. After all, they hate sharing the ball.


November 23rd, 2010
12:13 am

I don’t buy the cancer theory. Got a cancer…don’t play him. After LD mixes it up and tries a new approach 2-3 times and fails, then I’ll entertain the cancer theory. But run the same dudes out night after night and let Jamal Jack up like he’s playing horse and still keep running? That’s not cancer…that’s lack of imposing authority as a coach. And Teague with no run in the 4th? Criminal. Is JC1 at point winning a playoff series for us? Didn’t think so. That’s called (non-)development. LD > MW ….but that’s not saying much. Mix it up, baby, time to mix it up like a smoothie in a blender!


November 23rd, 2010
12:13 am

@Post-Game Entertainment LMAO!


November 23rd, 2010
12:14 am

@ terrell

I know Josh has been the most consistent along with Horford, but still sometimes you just wonder if he is the problem. It’d be bad, and I’d hope it wasn’t true if that began to come out.

Cause me and you don’t know what happens in that locker room.

I also can’t believe they call Philips the highlight factory either truth be told.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
12:19 am

Honestly, I think Joe is a bigger problem than Josh. People see Josh pouting and whining about foul calls and assume he’s a malcontent based on his history clashing with Woody, but if you read his quotes after losses, there is one consistent and common theme — his insistence on sharing the ball. Every time the Hawks lose or their offense stagnates, he always emphasizes sharing the ball. Who do we know on the Hawks who doesn’t consistently share the ball, or only does so reluctantly? Joe. I really think Josh believes Joe is detrimental to the offense with his ball hogging, and quite honestly I can’t blame him for feeling that way.

It’s one thing to say a guy is a cancer or a malcontent if he is selfish and only cares about his own personal success. It’s another thing entirely when he is unhappy about the team losing and not playing the right way. I think Josh falls firmly in the second category.


November 23rd, 2010
12:20 am

no tough guy.
no smart guy.
no hustle guy.
no leader.

A lot of responsibility lies with a team’s veteran point guard.
Mike Bibby is a huge let down and I have a feeling he creates a lot of tension in the locker room, and is responsible for a lot of the before game night partying that goes down. He and Joe should be ashamed of themselves as the elder statesmen of this team.

The Atlanta Hawks – Consistently providing Inconsistency

Najeh Davenpoop

November 23rd, 2010
12:25 am

And as far as LD is concerned, the jury is still out. On the one hand, aside from the last two games the Hawks’ offense has been on fire this year, against good teams and bad teams alike, and the biggest selling point about LD was that he was going to upgrade the offense. In a lot of statistical categories, the Hawks are improved offensively. So in that regard, he has been successful. On the other hand, there has been a noticeable dropoff in defense, rebounding, and mental toughness, and while we know they are capable of playing D better than they have this year, I am still not convinced that their rebounding and toughness issues can be entirely cured without a change in personnel. I’d give it another month to see what improvements — if any — Drew can provide, and look for a trade after that. December 15 is the first day that players signed this offseason can be traded.

Section 303

November 23rd, 2010
12:29 am

Guys, really, who cares about this team? I sat there and watched every minute of this game. I’ve come to the conclusion that we should not care.

This team is a total mess. And, Sund should have seen that after the Orlando series. A bunch of headcases, from top to bottom. Put a stick of dynamite in the middle of this group and blow it up. I’d rather cheer for a 13-win team that hustles than a bunch of jerkoffs who sometimes show up to play.

Hey, how good of an idea was it to sign Joe Johnson, again? Remind me. We couldn’t win without him, right? I truely hate that guy. F him. I wish him nothing but the worst.

And, Jamal Crawford, if you really read these blogs, please, you and the rest of the Hawks go F*** yourselves. You guys should pay back every fan that was in the arena tonight. I’ve never seen a bigger group of douchebags in my life.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2010
12:32 am

Post-Game Entertainment

November 22nd, 2010
11:59 pm

Too dang funny, and probably dead right on the mark. I actually stopped crying long enough to laugh at that….

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2010
12:34 am

Section 303 ,

Now…lie back on the couch and tell me how you really feel. Start from the beginning. Do you want to talk about your mother? :lol:

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2010
12:35 am

Apparently the team doesn’t even care about the team.

Sav GA Boss

November 23rd, 2010
12:38 am

Post-Game Entertainment,

You are right on the money. Tell Jamal to read it and pass it out to the rest of the team. Its time to break this team up. Sund, do something ASAP and until then, LD send a message to the team by benching Joe, Mike and Marvin.


November 23rd, 2010
12:41 am

Wait, Jamal reads the blog comments?


November 23rd, 2010
12:49 am

@ stizz yes it seems he does he admitted it. Personally I’m with Section 303 except exclude The three rooks (I count Teague as a rook) and Josh, Al, and Bibby everyone else can go do what you’ve stated.

@ Section 303 It doesn’t need the TNT just yet cause then we’d be back at square 1 no one wants that for this team except maybe the ASG and their ***** ***es.

Well I’m angry.

Section 303

November 23rd, 2010
12:54 am

Big Ray, I’m fine. I think, anyways. Funny you mentioned my mother because she and my Dad were at the game with me tonight. In town for the holidays. Lucky for them, they did not come down here to see this circus known as the Hawks.

I’ve kind of decided I may be done with this team. Coach Drew is clearly over his head. He needs to go. But, he won’t. Sund will do nothing.

This team…it needs to be shaken up. Trade someone (please, please, please make it Joe Johnson). But, nothing will happen. Sund will do nothing.

So many on here ripped Billy Knight. Sund is worse. Wonder where that idiot is tonight? How does that “core” look to ya’?

Here’s hoping the Hawks leave town. Will save me from spending another dime of my money on them.


November 23rd, 2010
12:55 am

I’m still trying to figure out what happened to Jeff Teague why wasn’t he in when they had the end of the bench all in there maybe he would have brought some energy. He was doing all right in that lst half when he came out on the floor.

darrell starks

November 23rd, 2010
12:55 am

LD wake your ass up this was some BS tonight, unbelievable how LD continue 2 starte marvin, he mentally braking down the starting five with no contribution at all, if your not atleast going 2 score atleast get rebounds around the board marvin, and why is he always standing around the half court line, this is so pathic that marvin should be in a d league are on some street team the guy is a bust but woody and now LD continue 2 starte him wow.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 23rd, 2010
1:01 am

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!


November 23rd, 2010
1:05 am

I like LD he really seems like he is trying but man these guys don’t care. Let me rephrase that, not enough guys on the team care.. LD is fighting battle he cant win.. We gotta call it like it is guys, these guys are the same ones who quit on Woodson last year. I have absolutely no idea why the front office didn’t think it would be a good idea to get rid of guys who quit on a coach. I don’t care how much you might not like a head coach you don’t quit on him……And there were the rumors of guys partying too much last season. If I remember correctly it was a rumor of them partying during the playoff series against the Bucks smdh

Season is what 14 games in and guys are already fighting.. The comment about guys not liking to be policed says it all. These cats don’t like discipline in any shape or form. LD has to start another group tomorrow. He cant say all the things he did and trot the same uninspired group out there tomorrow night. Its time to try something different.

I said it on the last blog and I’ll say it again. If Sund doesn’t get of his azz after this game then I dont know what will inspire him to do anything.

And its time to go ahead and pencil Marvin as a bust. Aint no other way around it. Guy has no fire or drive what so ever. He needs new scenery and the Hawks need a better player

Sad that after all this time guys are still using the same excuses. Its time for the front office to hold these guys accountable and ship some guys off. I’m with 303, I rather cheer for a losing team full of guys who play hard every night than to cheer for guys who quit and give up anytime they face adversity. They did it to Woodson and have already done it to LD twice. Time for the players to be held accountable

darrell starks

November 23rd, 2010
1:12 am

If i see another guy clowning on the bench and laughing why your losing by 30points i will call the front office and demand LD BE FIRED, how as a coach you not yell at your team when no heart or fire is being displayed, i might not have support woody but i can say one thing he did yelled at his team and cursed them out with lack luster performance.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!


November 23rd, 2010
1:17 am

Fire Larry Drew and beg Jeff Van Gundy to get down here and teach this team how to play defense. All this talk about motion offense, they must have forgot that you have to play on the other side of the court as well.

Stoned Mountain

November 23rd, 2010
1:20 am

This just in….. The Hawks have quit on Larry Drew.

darrell starks

November 23rd, 2010
1:27 am

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!


November 23rd, 2010
1:28 am

hahaha well mike woodson right now is saying on his couch “HAHAHAHA SUCKERS, that’s what you get for not listening to me, you have no more defense again” right now the players look like they do not care if they lose games because they know they won’t go far in the playoffs with this lineup, it’s the kind of state where you play enough to be above 60 points but bad enough to not compete even in the 1st quarter, i see their plan, they want the front office to take charge now, and we should give them what they want


November 23rd, 2010
1:45 am

@CP and Section303,

Careful what you wish for buds.


November 23rd, 2010
1:57 am

…beg Jeff Van Gundy to get down here and teach this team how to play defense….

“Beg” being the operative word in your comment. I’m afraid that with what ASG would offer in terms of compensation, it would really be like begging the guy to come coach this team.

Though I would much prefer Van Gundy, I think Coach Drew is entitled to at least the end of the season before we can point an informed finger in his direction. That the Hawks lost in a lopsided fashion to a team they handled last season is troubling.

I think now would be a great time for all those who argued that Coach Woodson was the source of almost every negative issue with this team to step up and support Coach Drew. That goes doubly so for those who championed the guy for years.

Thankfully, it doesn’t look as if the Heat or Magic is going to be pulling away any time soon. At this point in the season, it still would be a good bet that the Hawks will finish 4th’ish in the playoff order.

Go Hawks!!

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 23rd, 2010
2:52 am

Dayum dayum dayum James!
I am with all who want a line up shuffle tomorrow. SMDH

Hawks: Pretenders

November 23rd, 2010
3:22 am

if i was not fully convinced of it before, I am now ….. last years Hawks team would beat this years team by 50+

Not Sund

November 23rd, 2010
3:41 am

Everybody calm down. I know that our core is rotten, changes will be made by the Feb 2011 trade deadline.

Woody needed to go.

Happy Thanksgiving!!


November 23rd, 2010
3:48 am

Yes, begging that a guy who predicted that MIA would win more than 72 games is really what we need…

What we need is that LD wakes up and actually puts his pre-season plan to play and benches the guys who are not hustling and not playing the type of basketball he preaches.

The reserve team during the garbage minutes played with energy, ball movement and tried to get stops in D.

Mo went to the floor several times, whacked a penetrator, …

Jordan C missed several bad shots showing that his shot selection is a work in progress, but he tried on D and got several rebounds, ACTUALLY boxing out.

Powell played with energy and worked out there.

Teague was benched after his second shift because he did not fight through picks 3 plays in a row leading to 2 three pointers by Nate but, in what did this differ from Bibby’s inability to stay in front of his man?

Get Bibby to come off the bench and start Teague.

Yesterday LD made crucial mistakes and if he does not address them I will have no option but to stop supporting him:

1. JJ is playing hurt and should be shut down until he fully heals. Wade has a similar injury and was 1-12 last night during MIA’s home loss against IND.

So, it’s not just JJ. He simply should not be playing.

2. Al sh!ts his pants against Howard and Shaq. I am disappointed with this chicken little attitude. He has to MAN UP. However, LD should have used Collins off the bench (or even started him) the minute he felt the stench coming from Al’s shorts.

3. Bibby was being burned from minute 1 by Nate. Teague should have gotten in IMMEDIATELY.

4. Josh played MISERABLE man to man D on Garnett. Al is better suited for that assignment as a couple of possessions showed in the second half (one was even an airball by Garnett).

And, another fast break like the two in a row that he lost the ball made a bad pass like that and LD should bench him for the following game.

I don’t care if we then lose by 20 with Powell playing instead of him. I am freaking sick of seeing Josh trying to look like Magic.

5. Jamal is a bad shot and a turnover machine right now and clearly he is not suited for this offense. He now tries to get his teammates more involved but the ball movement is all wrong when he is on the floor and on D we all know what happens.

He should be used in limited minutes.

AND, if indeed there are guys partying, LD should find out who they are and suspend their asses for 5 games without pay.

If we have to show up with only 5 guys to play a game, so be it.

I saw part of the MIA-IND game and the Miami commentators said that O’Brien has a “Hustle Board” in the locker room where he records the hustle plays that don’t show up on the boxscore.

Since he has done that, guys fight to be on top of that board, with Hibbert, Posey and Granger (who used to coast on D) leading the way on deflections, dives, charges, …

I understood from the system that the guys on top get to play more minutes.


November 23rd, 2010
5:49 am

I told yall when LD came in all “Gung Ho” this would happen. He ran the team into the grown during training camp and now they have “no legs”. I told yall, Woody had this mediocre bunch playing “Way” above their heads. Now they back to their true selves. I told yall the prim a Donna JJ would fall flat on his face because the man who made him an all star was gone. I told yall Shaq at 50 was better than anything we had on our roster. I told yall Jeff Teague sucked. I told yall LD was a “slick talker” just to get a job. All that Bull about accountability wasn’t about sh_t. Even if he sits the starters, it won’t help cause they still get paid and we still lose. So don’t say I didn’t warn you.