Atlanta Hawks: Celtics 99, Hawks 76

Shaq and the C's pounded the Hawks. (AP Photo)

Shaq and the C's pounded the Hawks. (AP Photo)

– I wondered if L.D. would try to keep an even keel after this beat down. You know, try not to overreact to a bad regular-season loss. Keep it in perspective. Say something soothing instead of the something scathing.

– Nope. Not even close. He finally emerged 20 minutes after the game ended and ripped his team for its second surrender in the last two weeks.

– “This was very, very embarrassing,” he said. “If I had to sum it up in one word: embarrassing. To come out with that type energy; that type urgency. What I see with our team right now I don’t feel real good about.”

– The scene was eerily similar to the aftermath of the Orlando series. Bickering players, poor body language, lack of resolve and booing fans during the game. Quiet locker room and questions about character after it. “We came out tonight and didn’t compete,” Jamal said.

– Same group, new coach, and so far the same results. Actually, I can’t even say same results since the Hawks beat some good teams along the way to 53Ws and the No. 3 seed. They haven’t beaten any yet this season. The Hawks are supposed to match up better with the Celtics, especially with Rajon Rondo (ankle) in street clothes.

– Matchups hardly matter when the Hawks fail to show up. “We have some soul-searching to do,” Al said. “I don’t think we are [accountable]. We tend to have excuses for everything.”

– “I never would have thought we would come out so not ready to play,” J.J. said. “They remember we swept them last season. They wanted to come in and send a message and they did it.”

– Not surprisingly, there were some flareups in Atlanta’s huddles. At one point Al tried to huddle up the team and calm things down. “Guys have got to understand you can’t be sensitive to policing,” Josh said.

– “I am disappointed that we are not playing with a hunger,” L.D. said. “We are looking to point fingers. We are playing the blame game. More importantly, our energy level is not good at all. We are not doing things quick, we are not doing things with speed, we are not doing things with urgency.”

– The Hawks again looked more sluggish at the start than an opponent that had played the day before. The same thing happened against Milwaukee and Dallas.

– “We are playing like we are coming off a back-to-back-to-back,” Drew said. “I told the guys I don’t know what you are doing the night before we play, I don’t know what you are doing away from the floor. Something is going on that is not allowing us to play with an energy and passion that we should be playing with. As a head coach, I’ve got to find out what it is.”

Nate Robinson ran circles around the Hawks in the opening three minutes with five points and two assists. Plenty of open shots were available for the Celtics and they made most of them. Boston collected pretty much every Atlanta miss.

– “Something is going on and I’ve got to get to the bottom of it,” L.D. said. “Players have to know themselves. They have to know their bodies. They have to know how to get physically and mentally ready for every game, especially at the start. First four minutes of the game, when I see my players bending over grabbing their shorts because they are winded, something is going on. Something is wrong.”

– The Hawks never really threatened to rally after Boston’s opening barrage. The Celtics’ older, experienced heads schooled the younger, faster and more athletic Hawks.

– “We never hit back,” Joe said. “We made it real easy for them.”

– “The Celtics know who they are,” Mo said. “We don’t have an identity, unless it’s when things go bad we go the other way. Maybe that’s out identity and we don’t know it.”

– Before the game, L.D. said he thinks the Hawks hadn’t yet figured out how to “tighten the screws up” when they face adversity but he believes they have the personnel to do so. The close losses to Phoenix, Orlando, Dallas and Utah and the beat downs from Milwaukee and Boston suggest otherwise.

– “We start making excuses,” L.D. said. “We start getting on the officials. We start getting on teammates. All of those things start to seep in when things aren’t going well. That’s not a good sign at all.”

– L.D. has talked about accountability. What can he do once he figures out the problem with his players? “I’ve got to address it with each individual,” he said. “If I see something wrong, I have to address it. It can’t be sugarcoated.”

– Sorry for not posting the usual pregame blog post. I had it written and it was a masterpiece. But when I tried to post it the blog monster turned on its owner and ate it, leaving behind no remains to salvage.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

218 comments Add your comment

lp

November 23rd, 2010
4:12 pm

Mike is back, but is that not the truth doesn’t josh blow off the pg to try to make a play. I’m not new to the hawks this has been my teams for a while$ nique has been saying for years right there is where you want to give the ball to your pg. You can blame joe for missing shots but he is still playing his role, he opens the floor for other players due to the attention he attracts. So u think we should blow the team up and build around josh, that’s laughable. He’s like an athletic al harrington. What is his advantage other than athleticism? His jumpshot is improved but with that you have a player who tries to do to much.

Samuel

November 23rd, 2010
4:12 pm

Doc,
You are absolutely right. Me, being a Shaq guy, at first I was wanting him to come here so I could see him end his career, but the more I thought about it, i’m definately glad he didn’t. Losers on this blog were saying he was a cancer and shouldn’t start without even giving him a chance. Show’s how much basketball they know.

All you people screeming for LD to sit his all 5 starters, forget about it. These are your best players (save Marvin) so if you do that, it’s like giving up. Let them stay out there and keep getting embarrassed and maybe that will spark something. Again, this is the NBA not high school. Owners are paying these guys millions, you actually think they will allow all that money to sit. Make a change yes but not the entire starting 5.
Starters:
PG-Bibby (although I wouldn’t be opposed to starting Teague just to see what he can do in the starting line up).
SG-Jor Crawford (dude is working hard and can score) he’s earned a try
SF-JJ (his best position) put’s him closer to the basket and forces him to be more agressive.
PF-Josh (sit this guy and you might as well trade him right away, he’s not emotionally mature enough to handle it and he plays hard at least).
C-Al (he’s not a center but he’s the best we got)

JeJe

November 23rd, 2010
4:13 pm

SIGN JERRY STACKHOUSE. GET RID OF THIS PAPE SY CLOWN WHO WILL NEVER DO JACK FOR THIS TEAM. GET RID OF ETAN

GET RID OF SOMEONE

O'Brien

November 23rd, 2010
4:37 pm

Samuel,

I am not starting shaq on my team except for when we play Orlando, Boston etc. But I would have paid him well for 24 MPG consistently.

MY PT would be 24 minutes at center for shaq, and the other 24 minutes for Al. At PF, 36 minutes for Josh, and 12 minutes for al.

That would allow us to trade zaza and cut powell’s minutes. Plus we could still use the lineup of shaq, Al and josh when we want to go big.

terrell

November 23rd, 2010
4:39 pm

Fundamentals, it took Garnett, Pierce, and Allen YEARS before they reached the top. PLEASE! Garnett couldnt do it in Minnesota, and Ray Ray couldnt do it in Milwaukee or Seattle. And we all know Boston sucked before they all got together. All we can learn from them is chances are your’re going to have a pretty good team with 3 HOF caliber players on it.

northcyde

November 23rd, 2010
4:39 pm

LOL @ Jeje . . As an outsider to ATL, but a longtime traveler to that city, it is MANDATORY that out of towners who like to party, know where all of the hot parties will be.

From a party standpoint, Atlanta is pretty much Hollywood East. And with the epicenter of hip-hop and urban music shifting from New York to Atlanta, there are weekend parties all over the place.

There are a lot of websites and promoter web sites that list where the parties are. If people really wanted to track the Hawks down from a party standpoint, it wouldn’t be hard at all.

JeJe

November 23rd, 2010
4:54 pm

WHY IS JAMAL SO WORRIED ABOUT HIS CONTRACT.

DUDE IS ALREADY MAKING BANK AND WILL BE A TOP FA.

CMON FAM

Ray

November 23rd, 2010
5:28 pm

So judging from recent posts we can sum up the hawks troubles.

1. Marvin is not a good SF he’s actually below average which means he’d be a 3rd string at best on a team like the 8 playoffs teams in both the east and west.

2. There is a rotten apple it could be Joe, Jamal, or Marvin.

3. LD needs to stick to his word holding players accountable and cutting their PT.

4, Joe needs to act like he wants that $120 million dollar contract so far he’s playing like he wants to go D-leaguing(don’t even think that’s a word lol).

5. Horford and Josh need more touches and plays run for them.

6. Teague and JC2 need more minutes then what they’ve gotten.

7. As of now we need to drop off both Marvin and JC1 plus Etan Thomas.

rusty

November 23rd, 2010
5:30 pm

i guess your really hip nortcyde

Master if the Obvious

November 23rd, 2010
5:41 pm

Guys chill out. Everything will be fine as soon as Pape Sy gets back on the court.

[...] because they are actual teams, not simply a group of guys wearing the same jerseys. Among the many disturbing comments I’ve read to date, this was the worst, from guard/forward Mo [...]

ILL-Logical

November 23rd, 2010
6:41 pm

Tonight the onus wwill be on the team to perform or else.

TheAntiMe

November 23rd, 2010
6:45 pm

Good teams take it personally when someone beats them. Especially on their home court. No one on this Hawks team, with the possible exception of Horford, really seems to care. The players freely ramble off the list of things that they did not do right after they lose but I definitely don’t get the impression that any of them lose any sleep over it.

At least last season the players waited until the season was half over before they quit on Woody. This season, only three weeks in, they seem to have already quit on Woody light.

ILL-Logical

November 23rd, 2010
6:50 pm

Tonight is a critical test for the team and the fans. I hope it turns out well for both.

Sautee

November 23rd, 2010
7:11 pm

You can’t “quit” on a coach if you never showed up to begin with.

terrell

November 23rd, 2010
7:12 pm

Same startin 5. lol!

terrell

November 23rd, 2010
7:19 pm

Here we go again. Greatv D there Bibby.

Ray

November 23rd, 2010
7:44 pm

Yeah it’s the same starting 5 I’m already upset right now, and on defense they don’t seem to care it’s like they like being posterized lol.

Yeah Marvin is extremely invisible tonight, and here we go again with JC1 my god get both of them out of here as soon as Dec 15th comes around.