Atlanta Hawks: Mavericks 98, Hawks 93

J.J.'s last play was only the beginning of Atlanta's problems. (AP Photo)

J.J.'s last play was only the beginning of Atlanta's problems. (AP Photo)

– The Hawks lost seven home games last season. They’ve lost four times at Philips Arena in the first four weeks this season. Can’t knock their 5-1 road record but also can’t ignore their inability to beat good teams at home.

– Losing by close margins isn’t much of a mitigating factor, either, since the best teams tend to win those kind of games more often than they lose them. The Hawks were healthy and rested this time, too, while Dallas came in after taking a tough L against Chicago last night.

– That didn’t keep the Mavs from looking sharper in the first half. L.D. said the Hawks haven’t played with the same energy at Philips Arena. It’s also true they haven’t played the same level of competition. “We have put ourselves in positions that we shouldn’t put ourselves in,” L.D. said. “A lot of that is a failure to follow details.”

– “I thought we had a good plan coming in,” Al said. “It’s a tough loss. We still have work to do as a team.”

– Down three with 13.2 seconds left, the Hawks ended up getting an awkward 3-point try from J.J., who looked to be trying to draw a foul on Tyson Chandler. Clearly that’s not what the Hawks were looking for.

– “Get a handoff, turn the corner and get fouled,” Drew said. “We drew up a play to go to the basket and get fouled. We wanted to put the onus on the official. If we make the free throws when we foul them and there’s plenty of time left. We did not get a clean exchange between [Joe] and Al on the handoff.”

– J.J. played with a glove on his left hand. He got it banged during the preseason and he favors it at times. I’ve never seen him miss so many open shots as the last month–the Mavs appeared to be letting him shoot long jumpers at times–but you never get far asking him if injuries are affecting his play.

– “I’m good, man,” he said yesterday. “Just nursing these little ‘nick knacks’ I’ve got. Other than that, everything else is cool. I will be all right.”

– The Hawks reacted as if they had never seen a zone defense before. They passed it aimlessly around the perimeter until someone decided to jack up a 3-pointer. The Hawks missed 18 of 25.

– L.D. said the Hawks expected to see zone and the plan was to reverse the ball and attack the creases. “We settled,” L.D. said. “That’s way, way too many 3-point shots for us. They zoned us and we lost discipline. We settled for perimeter shots. Our movement was slow. We looked unsure. We started holding the ball. We fell prey to exactly what they wanted us to do.”

– Al had 20 rebounds. His teammates had 17. The Hawks had a 20-18 edge on the boards in the second half but Dallas led 26-17 in the first with eight offensive rebounds. There were a few possessions where the Hawks watched the ball fall to the floor before Dallas collected it. “We did a poor job of boxing out,” Drew said.

– Atlanta’s bench was awful in the first half. The reserves played a combined 37 minutes and combined for two points and two rebounds. The goal is for those guys to provide energy but instead they let the game get away in the second quarter.

– The Mavs are the latest Hawks opponent to show the difference in depth between the teams Atlanta has beaten and the teams they can’t beat. It’s too difficult for the Hawks to beat good teams when the bench drags them down.

– This was the fourth straight game Zaza was just kind of out there. It’s perplexing because he had been productive and energetic.

– Jamal still isn’t shooting well and his turnovers are up. He had seven assists so it’s not like he’s stagnant but the instant offense has been up-and-down. He had a key steal, craftily poking the ball away from Chandler on a trap with Smoove and dunking at the other end.

– Another strong line from Josh: 21 points, six assists, five steals, 10 of 19 shooting. Just five boards, and it looked like he grew frustrated because he and Al were the only guys working to get them.

– The Hawks couldn’t take advantage of an off night for Nowitzki, who was 8 of 22. He was just 2 of 9 in the fourth period and missed at least four wide open looks that he almost always makes in clutch situations.

– With Bibby in foul trouble and L.D. apparently having seen enough of Teague in the first half, in came Jordan Crawford to play with a small lineup. He gave the Hawks spark by making his first four shots, including a fadeaway over Nowitzki.

– “It felt good to get out there and play,” Jordan Crawford said. “I’m just excited that I got the opportunity and I just tried to take advantage of it.”

– “Jordan gave us some really good minutes,” L.D. said.

– “Atlanta has so much firepower, and they they insert a kid who probably hasn’t played in three or four games and he lights it up,” Jason Terry said.

– Later, Jordan showed his inexperience. He messed up a coverage that led to a Barea 3, lost Terry on a pick-and-roll layup and threw the ball away when trying to whip a pass to Mo under the basket. Back came Bibby, who continues to be the only guard making 3-pointers consistently.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

185 comments Add your comment

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 21st, 2010
12:11 am

Jamal Crawford and Marvin Williams hopefully wont finish the season in Hawks uniforms.

Tom

November 21st, 2010
12:13 am

Hawks need to get it together.

rms

November 21st, 2010
12:15 am

So Teague sucks that bad, huh!!

Jae Evolution

November 21st, 2010
12:23 am

Jordan should’ve been getting PT from Game 1, we obviously have tools to replace what we have can someone get a decent trade in the works for a backup big, a starting caliber center, SF, or PG…PLEASE!

Ramon

November 21st, 2010
12:51 am

The discouraging part about the play of Marvin and Jamal is they’re not even playing good enough to get traded.

KevinM

November 21st, 2010
1:19 am

Well, another test failed against a decent team from the West.

Really, MC, do you see any improvement other than Smoove by anyone this year? Anyone?

8-5 was not expected this early on…..

Najeh Davenpoop

November 21st, 2010
1:27 am

“The Hawks reacted as if they had never seen a zone defense before. They passed it aimlessly around the perimeter until someone decided to jack up a 3-pointer. The Hawks missed 18 of 25.”

This is how they react every time they see a zone defense. I was hoping the new offense would change things in this area, but so far it has not.

jim

November 21st, 2010
1:31 am

i seriously do not understand why jj got so much money….he has done nothing for us this year. Same goes for marvin (well duh) and jamal. Where can we spend that $30 million on. We need to trade them now b4 they are worth even less. And give jordan more minutes LD.

jim

November 21st, 2010
1:33 am

actually we should start bibby at point with jordan and jj at the wings then bring marvin off the bench. He is pretty much worthless now anyway

O'Brien

November 21st, 2010
1:36 am

Great game Al, good game Josh, and okay game bibby and Jordan. Everyone else, including LD was horrible.

LD said players did not pay attention to details. I hope he let them Have it after the game. And I would like to see him send a message to Jamal by benching him in favor of Jordan.

Don’t know why LD played Jamal 33 minutes despite the fact he sucked tonight.

No need to panic as yet. However, history suggests these players don’t have the mental fortitude necessary to make the next step.

LD said he saw guys hanging their heads early on just because Dallas made a run, and how he has seen it before. He sounds frustrated with this team.

They say the easiest way to improve the moral in the work place is to fire the employees who are unhappy.

The best way to improve the mental makeup of this team is to make a trade.

MsDee

November 21st, 2010
1:37 am

Jamal couldn’t throw a penny in da ocean tonight…SO WHY DID LD SUB BIBBY FOR JORDAN CRAWFORD INSTEAD OF JAMAL??????????????????????????????????? SO WHAT JC2 MADE A FEW HICCUPS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE 7 TO’S JC1 COMMITTED?????????????????????? COME ON LD, I’M TRYIN TO STAY POSITIVE, DONT CONTINUE TO LET ME DOWN!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 21st, 2010
1:41 am

“Really, MC, do you see any improvement other than Smoove by anyone this year? Anyone?”

Horford has clearly improved as well. He is much more confident and versatile offensively now than he was a year before, both as a jump shooter as well as in the post.

Everyone else on the team, though — in particular Marvin and Teague, who were both being counted on to improve — is exactly the same.

drmaryb

November 21st, 2010
1:45 am

Craw-Fishy!

I have seen enough!

Jamal Crawford! Is done playing for the Hawks!

Trade his azz … and Marvin too! Throw Zsa Zsa in there too!

It is clear, that Sund promised Jamal something and lied to him. Apparently, he waived his option and it was not honored by management, so, there is some bad blood going on here. Jamal was promised a new contract and it was not honored by management, so now, he is disgruntled and is hurting the team purposefully.

Joe is proving that if he is not featured, you will get ball sharing, but no wins without the ball in his hands. There are some serious issues going on internally with this team. Joe got his money, so he don’t give a fck – now, and that is real!

I say, bench jamal for the next ten games, and give all his minutes to Jordan! What have we got to lose! There are some serious chemistry issues going on here! They say the NBA is a business, and with the new CBA Contract looming, so be it! These cats are playing for Money and not the Love of the Game!

This is not basketball, we are witnessing …. It’s all about the Benjamin’ s Baby!

aye Sund! Fix Your Damned team!
Go Smoove Go!

O'Brien

November 21st, 2010
1:45 am

Jim,

Another option is to go back to the lineup from when Marin was injured. Start twin At center, al at PF, and Josh at SF.

I don’t agree much with alleged superiorblogman. The hornets are 10-1, and playing in a small market.

But yet they trade their $14 mil expiring contract (Peja) in an attempt to get better.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 21st, 2010
1:47 am

Call up Joe Dumars and beg and plead for him to do Jamal and Marvin for Prince, Ben Wallace, Chris Wilcox (to make salaries match), and a pick of some sort. Maybe Jamal and Marvin are (slightly) more talented than Prince and Big Ben, but the Hawks so desperately need some toughness and defense that this trade would be more than worth it.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 21st, 2010
1:49 am

^^ I should have added, that trade has to wait until December 15 in order to work under the salary cap.

drmaryb

November 21st, 2010
1:51 am

Najeh!

Enthusiatic Co-sign! Shake this Fckn” Sh!t up!

Child Please!

Bust this ISH up and – Make a Change we can Believe in!

drmaryb

November 21st, 2010
1:54 am

Fire Sund! Better Yet! Fire the AS-Killer-G!

drmaryb

November 21st, 2010
2:06 am

Kurt Thomas
Antonio McDyess
Raja Bell
Kenyon Martin
Matt Barnes
Ron Artest
Udonis Haslem
kevin Love
Troy Murphy
Hakim Warrick
Brandaon Bass
J.J. Hickson

I could do this all day! But, I am not The Hawks GM! This team need some Fkn’ Help!
Do your damned job! I’m doin’ mine and – IMA Biatch!

Go Figure!

cp

November 21st, 2010
2:15 am

Its time to get over this core b.s. cause aint nothing good about it..Sund talked about improving this sorry bench and did nothing to add quality players to it….LD talks a good game but I’m sorry I’m not seeing it so far. He said he was going to hold guys accountable but I’m not seeing it… Marvin does absolutely nothing and still starts…… Jamal Crawford disrupts the offense. plays no d, turns the ball ova , takes any shot he wants yet he is still getting major minutes. Where is the accountability LD? Teague has shown me absolutely nothing out there…. ZaZa is terrible. If this was the NFL he would lead the league in dropped passes and fumbles. Dude gets set up nicely all the time and he either gets blocked, fumbles the ball away, or does that dumb pump fake that nobody goes for and travels. Jamal, Marvin, and ZaZa should all be on the trading block. I wouldn’t even be mad if Teague was on it. Its time to get some guys in here who are going to get the job done. New year same ol same ol with these guys smh

Props to Josh and Al. They seem to be the only ones who care to show up and attempt to play hard. Bibby has also been better than last year… Joe is struggling but I think he will eventually find his shot. He is the one guy I’m not worried about.

L-QUE

November 21st, 2010
2:17 am

here we go again jc1 is not a point and can not play it play the twin he can help.most seven footers in the league just take up space. with the exception being 2maybe3 centers that make a difference in agame play the seven twin he plays will in short, where was powell he could have helped with marion on the boards and points inside.bibby sit to long tonight he was our only outside treat to open up the inside so josh could slam all night jc1 should have come out the game but he took out jc2 bad coaching have put the burden of winning on josh & al with bibby in short burst J.JACK is gone.bad player use have cost us three games i know

drmaryb

November 21st, 2010
2:18 am

cp

That just about sums it ALL up!

drmaryb

November 21st, 2010
2:20 am

L-QUE … WTF are you tryin” to say? Are you drinkin” again?

drmaryb

November 21st, 2010
2:30 am

Trade These B!atches:

Jeff Teague
Marvin Williams
Jamal Crawford
Zsa Zsa
Jason Collins
Josh Powell
Mike Bibby
Pape Sy
Maurice Evans
Etan Thomas

I will take ANY D-Leaguer for these scrubs!
Like that bannished PG who played for the Pacers said: “I don’t play with scrubs” Ahhh … what’s his name? He hated on the NBA Homo-Sexual, who played for The Orlando Magic! … ???

Tim Hardaway? I think that was him?

superiorblogman

November 21st, 2010
2:34 am

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28l8mlb

Hawks get

Javale McGee
Tayshaun Prince
Ben Gordon

Wiz get

Richard Hamilton
Marvin Williams
Zaza

Pistons get

Jamal
Gilbert Arenas

superiorblogman

November 21st, 2010
2:38 am

New Hawks lineup

PG BIBBY//TEAGUE
SG JOE/GORDON/JORDAN
SF PRINCE/EVANS
PF SMOOVE/POWELL/
C HORFORD/MCGEE/COLLINS

Anthony

November 21st, 2010
2:38 am

A team fulll of losers and if you’re a fan that continues to support their cause… Well, that makes you a loser also in my book.

The Truth

November 21st, 2010
2:56 am

Report Card on the worst offenders:

JJ played incoherent as if he had a hangover from too much partying at Magic City last night. His lack of preparation was obvious. Not only was he struggling offensively but his blown assignments on defense were also costly.

Jamal was perhaps the biggest goat of the game. He stunk it up so badly offensively and defensibly that it was unconscious. The timing of his miscues was the most damaging that he perhaps single-handedly put the dagger in the loss. Maybe he attended the same party JJ attended and got caught-up in drinking too much booze or worst.

Marvin was typical Marvin. His problem of inconsistency is still consistent and clearly mental. Though he disappointing us again, he didn’t nearly do the damage that Jamal did; In fact, when it appeared that he might be finding his stroke with that last shot he made to brought the Hawks within 6 pts to tie, soon after, LD benched him but played Jamal though his miscues for 33 min.

Speaking of LD, other than Jamal, he perhaps was the biggest contributor of the loss because of his rotation pattern. For him to continue to play Jamal through his struggles was senseless. If I didn’t know any better, I would have sworn that Woody was coaching that game based on the substitution pattern; Jamal first off the bench (no matter what) and will finish the game (no matter what), Zaza first big off the bench (no matter what) and will play substantial minutes (no matter what), Jordon Crawford (the rookie) lights it up on offense but is benched with a few miscues while the coach overlooks the miscues of his veterans (no matter what). Doesn’t this sound familiar? To be fair however, I saw rational for playing Jamal in the first half during Dallas zone defense because he was the only PG that had the ability to break-down the zone defense. Jeff Teague was supposed to be quick expected to do this but (again) he deferred.

I have already prognosticated about Jeff Teague abilities or lack thereof. Since he is making me look like Nostradamus right now, I won’t belabor the point.

Zaza has been sucking as of late, but in this game he sucked so badly that I and perhaps others were screaming for him to come out of the game. In a critical possession when the Hawks were trying to make that last run, Zaza couldn’t finish under the rim and created a TO. Mo Evans out of frustration dropped his head and slammed the ball pretending to dribble. He was just plan awful. He makes bone-headed fouls trying to demonstrate his effort but he is really masking his limitations. Lately he is more of a gimmick than an NBA basketball player.

tidog

November 21st, 2010
3:02 am

Wow, just finished watching the dvr of the game. The loss has to go to LD. Coming out of your final timeout down by 3 and your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd option is Joe Johnson stumbling and dribbling across the court for a contested 3 is terrible. Joe being the 1st option is expected at that time but geez draw up a plan b. Jamal Crawford was useless tonight and could have helped more watching from the bench. I like that LD does give other guys minutes(keeps them engaged in the game)and that was some great production for the rookie. Will someone please tell Teague that he has the talent to be in the league and to put some aggression with his quickness and get to the cup.

tidog

November 21st, 2010
3:14 am

BTW make some noise Monday, Lets go hawks, lets go hawks.

ignition

November 21st, 2010
3:24 am

Was Marvin playing tonight cause I watched the game and couldn’t tell… Jamal had his worst game as a Hawk and that has been a consistent theme for him this year same with Joe who hasn’t done anything since signing the contract.. Props to Josh & Al who more and more appear to be the true center pieces of the team everyone else is expendable… Trade whoever…

vava74

November 21st, 2010
5:18 am

Until we get 20/25 minutes of steady PG production behind Bibby (by a real PG – not by Jamal), we are going nowhere.

It’s that simple.

Right now we have JJ struggling mightily and Jamal playing horribly

It’s impossible to beat “serious” teams that way with the current rotation.

For me, Jordan C has proven to be deserving of ALL of Jamal’s minutes behind JJ.

Teague needs to step up or be moved.

Nonetheless the bottom line is simple:

We lost 5 games so far.

On all 5 losses but 1, we were “in the game” with 1 minute to play.

On all 5 losses we had players injured or severely limited.

Given JJ’s struggles, my guess is that we have been shorthanded since day 1, contrary to last year.

No need to panic, but what I mentioned above remains, IMO valid:

- Jamal out as soon as possible;
- Teague needs to step up;

ntrigue

November 21st, 2010
5:24 am

TToo me I’m not getting all emotional after this game but here’s my take on why we loss. #1 Coaching I like Drew but his rotation too night was off. Starting with sitting Al and Josh for extended mins when they both were playing well and not in foul trouble. Then when the 2nd unit was in and Dallas took the lead we should of went back to our 1st unit. But instead it took him forever to put back in. #2Jamal killed us I mean too me this was his worst gm of the season he kept shooting jump shots but kept missing I understand what he brings to the team but when he’s playing like that you gotta go with giving Jordan more tick especially if his shot is on! Mo, Marvin, Zaza, sucked tonite where was Josh Powell MC was he hurt? Not the end of the world Hawks fans let’s just regroup and get ready for the Celts on Mon! Got. A feeling that team for some reason plays betta with a packed house Hawks marketing needs to lower ticket prices and start getting more fans in here rooting for the home team!

Big Daddy

November 21st, 2010
6:08 am

4-14 with 1-6 for 3 pointers for a total of 11 points. JJ what’s up? People making half your salary are not shooting that badly. JC1 was 2-10 and 0-4 on 3 pointers. Hey, if you want people to think you are worth the money you want and that extended contract this is not the way to do it.

I am trying not to pile on what everyone else is saying but it is all true. The rotation was awful, Teague seemed intimidated, Marvin should have been put on the bench and too often I watched the ball being passed around on the perimeter with no one making cuts around or to the basket. LD should come into today’s shoot around with fire in his belly with the performance. Can one of the coaches please work with Zaza on catching passes in transition. He fumbles too many of them and tonight in critical situations.

I don’t know what play LD drew up for the last play but why didn’t JJ get the screen that he needed and if Chandler did get him on the switch, why didn’t someone come back to pick him off. It is not rocket science. These guys have been playing at least since middle school. That should be something they recognize in their sleep. Instead, they left JJ out there on Tyson and he did a real good job of denying JJ an open look and then making him take a bad shot. Still if someone had come back out and picked Chandler off even if his man switched it would not have been someone as big as him and him and JJ could probably have shot over him. When you have the biggest contract in the league people expect you to do better than 4-11 and 1-6 on 3 pointers. They also expect you to stick that shot at the end.

Ray

November 21st, 2010
7:32 am

Okay Josh and Horford have earned their money plus some, and I for one will now be quiet when Josh is taking those jumpers. Cause it has become easy to see he’s improved his game by what seems to be large leaps and bounds.

Jamal, Etan Thoams, Marvin Williams, and Zaza have earned themselves a spot on the trading block.

As for Teague haven’t seen enough yet to Judge ya’ll too quick to move the man, but give it some time I think he’ll be ok.

Jamillion

November 21st, 2010
8:08 am

I SEE IT LIKE THIS. LD HAS BEEN GIVING A BAD HAND, IN TERMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE. HE HAS TWO BONA FIDE STUDS IN THE FRONT COURT. PROBLEM IS THE HIGHLY OvER PAID ROBIN WHO WANTS TO BE BATMAN, AND WHOSE PAID LIKE BATMAN WONT SHARE THE BALL. AND JJ HAS NOT SHOWN UP BUT FOR ONE GAME ALL SEASON A LOST VS PHOENIX. LET ME GO ON RECORD AS SAYING WHEN THE HAWKS DRAFTED JORDAN, I SAID THEY NEED TO TRADE JJ. FOR JORDAN IS A REAL STUD AT THE 2, PLuS JJ IS NOT GOING TO BE WORTH WHATEVER WE GIVE HIM. THIS 3 CAPTAIN THING IS BLOWING UP IN YALL FACE, BUT NOT THE WAY YOU EXPECTED. THERE SHOULD ONLY BE ONE CAPTAIN ON THIS TEAM. AND HIS NAME IS JOSH.HE THE HEART AND AL THE MuSCLE -IF JOSH WAS CAPTAIN HE’LL BE BARKING AT HIS TEAMMATES .JJ DON’T CARE HE GOT HIS MONEY. JAMAL IS KILLING THIS TEAM ON PURPOSE MANAGEMENT HAS TO MAKE A MOVE. BUT L D CAN BUY HIMSELF SOME TIME BY SIMPLY SWITCHING HIS ROTATION. MOVE JJ TO THE 3, START JORDAN AT THE TWO. WE START OFF WITH NO LIABILITY IN OuR OFFENSE. EVERYBODY ON THE FLOOR CAN SCORE. THEN MAR

Section 303

November 21st, 2010
8:09 am

Some need to stop trying to rationalize and accept the fact that the Hawks are not a good team. How any other conclusion can be drawn, I have no idea.

This group of players have just been together too long. We see the same lazy effort every time they take the floor. Thank God that the Hawks have Al and Josh on their team. The only two players that bother to try.

I’m calling off my Joe Johnson truce. That guy is just another a$$hole who gets a big contract and then coasts. F him. Nothing like watching a $24-million dollar “superstar” shoot 20% when the team needs him most. Those f’ing idiots at ASG should each be kicked in the nuts for giving that clown his contract.

Jamal Crawford = terrible. All that needs to be said, really.

And, Larry Drew….how over one’s head can one guy be? You were going to “put the onus on the officials”? Really? I mean, f’ing reall?!! The Mavs were getting every call (and I mean EVERY call) and we’re going to put the “onus on the officials” late in the game? Umm…don’t do that, idiot.

Also, you can say what you want about the mistakes made by Jordan Crawford, Michael. But, at least he was trying. The fact he has sit even one minute behind a piece of crap like Jeff Teague makes me sick. Yeah, maybe he shouldn’t of threw the pass to Mo Evans (no one should throw a pass to Mo Evans). Maybe, he did get lost on D a few times (Was he along on that? Ummm…let me think….no!) But, to take out a guy giving a spark and reinserting Jamal Crawford for the last 5-6 minutes was a total debacle of a coaching move. Larry Drew, it helps if you watch the game! It does. Because, I watched the game, and I could clearly see that Jordan was the better Crawford last night.

And, guys, let’s just tell this like it is: Jeff Teague is a bad basketball player. He is terrible. He will always be terrible. Saying anything other than that is just wrong. He sucks.

The Hawks do not deserve the fans they have. They really don’t. Rick Sund needs to make a trade. Everyone but Al and Josh are on the table.

And, one last thing about Joe Johnson….I wish he would have went to the Knicks. Those people would chew him up and spit him out. Try telling the NYC public you could “careless” they show up. See how that changes your day. Johnson is a wannabe all star and a total piece of sh#t as a person. I wish he would have left.

JeJe.

November 21st, 2010
8:09 am

“It’s a tough loss. We still have work to do as a team.”

LOL does Horford say this after every loss?

And if I offended you with my comments about Smoove and sometimes Horford not boxing out, cry me a river. Especially Smoove. I have never seen a player put less effort into boxing out and going for a rebound. This guy has never boxed out a player in his life

I WILL SAY IT AGAIN: THIS TEAM PLAYS NO DEFENSE. THE OFFENSE IS STILL 1 ON 1. HORFORD DOES NOT GET THE BALL ENOUGH. JOE SCORED LESS POINTS THAN DESHAWN STEVENSON. LOL! BIBBY FREAKING FOULED DESHAWN ON A FADEAWAY JUMPER.
IDIOTS

JeJe.

November 21st, 2010
8:18 am

ANYONE WATCHING THE GAME COULD OBVIOUSLY SEE THIS IS NOW SMOOVE’S TEAM. HE IS NOW ALLOWED TO SHOOT FROM HALFCOURT ON EVERY POSSESSION.

NO DISCIPLINE AT ALL.

CAN WE GO AHEAD AND JUST NOT START MARVIN? SOME PEOPLE ON HERE STILL LOOK AT HIS 2 FREAKING GOOD GAMEST HIS YEAR AND ACT LIKE THIS GUY IS ACTUALLY GOOD. THEY GUY IS TERRIFIED WHEN HE HAS THE BALL AND HAS TO MAKE A PLAY. IT TAKES PEOPLE CALLING HIM OUT JUST FOR HIM TO TRY.

JeJe.

November 21st, 2010
8:21 am

“We didn’t come out with the energy we needed,” Johnson said, “but we were able to get back in it.”
-Joe Johnson

LOL!!!!!!! Larry Drew said he would NOT let us not come in with energy. WE HAD 4 DAYS OFF. DALLAS TRAVELED FROM TEXAS AFTER A LOSS AND BEAT US ON OUR OWN HOMECOURT

This team should be ashamed. Drew said we settled for the perimeter – NO !#@$. HORFORD WAS BEASTING AND HE HAS TO GET OFFENSIVE BOARDS JUST TO GET SHOTS BECAUSE THIS WHOLE DAMN OFFENSE IS 1-ON-1 GARBAGE STILL

I AM DONE WITH THIS !@#$!@#!@#. FIRE DREW AND FIRE SUND AND SELL THE TEAM TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING

JeJe.

November 21st, 2010
8:22 am

HORFORD HAD 20 AND 20 AGAINST TYSON AND HAYWOOD. THAT IS DAMN IMPRESSIVE. YET HE GETS NO INVOLVEMENT ON OFFENSE

1) HE IS CLEARLY THE ONLY GUY ON THIS TEAM WHO WANTS TO WIN AND WHO TRIES 48 MINUTES A GAME

2) HE ACTUALLY HAS AN OFFENSIVE GAME NOW.

BUT LETS KEEP LETTING SMOOVE RUN THE OFFENSE AND WATCHING JOE GET OUTSCORED BY STEVENSON BECAUSE HE IS AN OVERPAID OVERRATED GARBAGE PLAYER

Joey

November 21st, 2010
8:43 am

“We fell prey to exactly what they wanted us to do.”
*************************
So, LD, why not call a timeout, and put players in who will do as instructed?

Kwa

November 21st, 2010
9:02 am

yes Drew and Jamal were HORRIBLE last night,
Drew should have BEEN yanked jamal’s funny shootin self OUT of the game
I have always been of the thought Jordan should be in the game MUCH more than he has been used thus far.
Jamal, Marvin, need to be traded, Zaza needs to be further down the bench, but collins is NO better
hawks are in deep sh.. right noiw.
but i can give a break to drew, he is still experimenting and learning what is and is not working, but his benefit of the doubt time is quickly running out.

Salvador Gonzalez

November 21st, 2010
9:04 am

I came from Dominican Republic to see the Dallas and Boston games.
It is very painful to see my countryman Al Horford’s effort (20-20-5)waisted on a game that besides him only Smoove (20-6-5)played with intensity.
The Hawks need to trade for better bench players.I think it was RAMON who suggested
to get from Sacramento Dalembert,my other countryman Francisco Garcia and Jason Thompson for Zaza,Crawford,Mo Evans,and a first draft pick.That would be a great improvement!
The team has been badly coached,anyway I never thought that Woodson’s assistant was going to be a lot better tham him!
Having said all this…..GO HAWKS!!!!
I hope we will do better on monday!!!

darrell starks

November 21st, 2010
9:13 am

Jamal need 2 get over his contract dispute and starte playing ball, and for all you fans hating on jamal, last year he was the best player on the team and now you scream bloody murder 13games into the season talking about trading him LOL.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 21st, 2010
9:23 am

The problem is not your jamal it’s marvin starting at the 3, 6years in the league and he continue 2 starte, what coach in there right mind like LD who have been a witness 2 marvin play would allow his performance over the past years 2 starte, if LD continue 2 drink marvin coolaid he will failed as a head coach.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

O'Brien

November 21st, 2010
9:25 am

8-0 against lottery teams, 0-5 against playoff teams, and 4 home losses already. Very disturbing trend.

Ken Strickland,

I’m not giving up on the hawks, so I need some more of that koolaid. Hook me up.

The truth,

I agree with some of your post about the lack of accountability as it relates to PT. I have not seen it.

darrell starks

November 21st, 2010
9:39 am

LD have 2 starte twin and put horford at his natural position and move josh 2 small forward, bibby have been playing great so far but starting teague will give you some one who can defend better at the point, plus bibby would make the bench stronger and hopefully marvin coming off the bench will improve his game and he can become the man with the second unit, and can some one tell me why powell is not playing with the second unit go figure.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

lukas

November 21st, 2010
9:58 am

D. Starks,

Co-sign your 9:23 am. Somebody has to realize that Marvin has received the time to develop and he hasn’t (and probably he doesn’t give a damn about developing). Bringing him from the bench could have a 2-face consecuence: or he wakes up and step up or he gets depressed and become the ultimate invisible man.

lukas

November 21st, 2010
10:04 am

Salvador,

Give LD time. He can’t change the team’s weak mindset overnight, mindset that Woddy help to build and solidify over 6 years.