Milwaukee Bucks at Atlanta Hawks: Bucks looking for ‘true nature’

Remember when everyone said the Bucks might overtake the Hawks this season? Maybe it still happens but Milwaukee is 3-5 and couldn’t find much offense until shooting 53 percent to beat the Knicks 107-80 last night.

Michael Hunt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel thinks that was “the first real hint of their true nature,” just in time for the Hawks:

How long does it, or should it, take for an NBA team to disclose its real identity?

“I wouldn’t want to put a time frame on it,” Bucks coach Scott Skiles said. “I don’t know what the true nature of the team would be yet.”

For this group, it wouldn’t be the bricklayers who were 30th out of 30 teams in scoring and 29th in shooting percentage on the way to a 2-5 start, with seven of the nine in the rotation missing more than six of every 10 shots taken.

But Skiles noted the Bucks are ahead of his schedule defensively. Defense, of course, is what made the Bucks a tough out for the Hawks in the East semis last spring even without Bogut, a capable post defender.

Tonight will be a good chance to see how Atlanta’s new offensive approach works against a rugged defensive team. It worked pretty well against Orlando but Milwaukee plays a different style.

“They are a dangerous team,” L.D. said. “It’s just a matter of time before they get it clicking. It’s going to be a physical game. I told our guys, the first words out of my mouth were ‘playoff intensity.’ Skiles’ teams in the past have always been physical teams, so we have to be prepared for a physical game.”

Not his policy

L.D. said he’s not married to the strategy of keeping Al on the bench when he gets two fouls in the first half. It’s just sort of worked out that way.

“What has happened with that, Al has gotten two fouls, but the team had been playing well,” Drew said. “They were in a little bit of a rhythm. Had it been the other way around, I would have put him back in. I had sent him back to the scorer’s table in the second quarter [at Orlando], but I pulled him back because the team had started to get in a rhythm and a flow.”

So L.D said it’s not necessarily going to be something he does all of the time. In fact, he said he’d like to leave Al and the other starters out there in those situations so they can get accustomed to it.

“I want our guys to learn to play with two fouls,” he said. “I don’t want guys to think every time they get two fouls, they are coming out the game.”

Injury report

Mo participated in the shootaround today and is set for a full-contact practice tomorrow. If all goes well he could return to play Friday against Utah.

Marvin also participated in shootaround and was “moving very well,” Drew said, but he’s not expected to practice tomorrow.

Drew said the lineup shuffling necessary due to the lack of small forwards has been “OK” but he’s playing Josh and J.J. more minutes than he’d like. Joe has played 40-plus in five of the last six games. Smoove hasn’t played quite as many minutes but L.D. notes the rotation out of whack because when Joe goes he has to leave Josh in until Joe returns

Another possibility broached by L.D.: playing Teague, Bibby and Jamal together to “buy some time,” though L.D. said the Hawks would have to play zone defense with that lineup to avoid being hurt by post-ups.

“We’ve been piecing it together,” Drew said.

Carlos Delfino is out for the Bucks.

MC

270 comments Add your comment

northcyde

November 10th, 2010
6:54 pm

DREW . . just play Horford regular minutes. Get him out on the floor. And LOL @ experimenting with a Teague, Bibby, Jamal lineup. Drew says that he preaches defense, but how in the world does he expect that group to defend anybody?

How about playing Jordan in place of Teague, to add more scoring punch, since defense isn’t an issue with that proposed lineup.

Jae Evolution

November 10th, 2010
6:56 pm

I hope they generate some sort of crowd atmosphere tonight, last game at home it was pitiful.

Jonh Koncak couldn't jump high

November 10th, 2010
7:00 pm

I think we need to get Teague a lot of minutes….he’s our future at the 1 position…

superiorblogman

November 10th, 2010
7:00 pm

Another loss coming up to this defensively challenged squad, but it is cool as long as we move closer to a much needed trade.

superiorblogman

November 10th, 2010
7:09 pm

Al is way too soft to be a starting C for a playoff team. We need to go ahead and quit this foolishness maybe just start Collins for the rest of the year or go get a C because Al’s heart is not in playing C.

ATL FAN

November 10th, 2010
7:09 pm

Going to be a great game tonight, great home crowd on hand.

lewis

November 10th, 2010
7:11 pm

horford sounded excited not to be starting at C

northcyde

November 10th, 2010
7:11 pm

LOL . . Drew has a lot more Woody in him, than fans ( and even he ) wants to admit.

It’s not his “policy”, but he kept Horford out of the game for a whopping 20 minutes in the first half, while Zaza was balling. He even said that he asked Al to sit out, while Zaza played. With Horford having 2 fouls, and Zaza balling, Horford didn’t lobby to go back in, and actually cheered Zaza from the sideline.

He gets a pass because he’s a 1st year head coach. But sometimes, like with Woody, I wish he’d simply start doing it, than talk about doing it.

ATL FAN

November 10th, 2010
7:15 pm

Cmon Collins.

ATL FAN

November 10th, 2010
7:15 pm

Bibby is automatic when open!!

ATL FAN

November 10th, 2010
7:17 pm

Wow, Bibby and Horford!!

Wabe

November 10th, 2010
7:18 pm

Hawks look good coming out of the gate.

cp

November 10th, 2010
7:18 pm

No Nique tonight,,, yessssssssssssss…..(tiger woods fist pump)…. Bob and the Stinger feed off each other so well. I hope this is a permanent move.

Wabe

November 10th, 2010
7:18 pm

And I’ll add, the Hawks halfcourt defense has looked much better after getting shredded by the Suns.

They were pretty solid against the Magic, and look good here again tonight early.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 10th, 2010
7:19 pm

From the previous blog:

““You add Steve Nash to the Hawks, a buzz will go through this city””

More accurately, a buzz will go through the suburbs.

Something tells me the whole “NBA is full of thugs” perception will cool down significantly among Atlanta’s suburbanites if Steve Nash is in a Hawks uniform.

Steve

November 10th, 2010
7:19 pm

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Najeh Davenpoop

November 10th, 2010
7:20 pm

The ball movement so far has been outstanding. If you move the ball, you can beat any defense.

Ree Roe

November 10th, 2010
7:20 pm

Am I the only one who likes this starting 5 more than our 5 with Duckman at the 3?

-REEap what you Roe!!!

superiorblogman

November 10th, 2010
7:20 pm

They only look solid until they start switching and things fall apart

Najeh Davenpoop

November 10th, 2010
7:21 pm

“Am I the only one who likes this starting 5 more than our 5 with Duckman at the 3?”

Depends on the opponent. Against teams like the Bucks and Magic who have bigger centers against whom Horford will struggle, this lineup is nice. Against teams like Phoenix who don’t have much size but can beat you with athleticism, I’d definitely prefer the smaller lineup with Horford at C and Marvin at SF.

Melvin

November 10th, 2010
7:22 pm

I’m really liking this big Lineup… Marvin may have to come off the bench…

lewis

November 10th, 2010
7:22 pm

the resurgence of mike bibby.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 10th, 2010
7:23 pm

Nice play by Horford, to show the fake and drive on Bogut. I’d like to see him do that against EVERY center. There are few, if any, centers in this league who can stay with Horford if he faces up and attacks them strong off the dribble.

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 10th, 2010
7:25 pm

(response to post in the last blog)

I agree with lewis.
The teams we lost to are good teams. 1 being ELITE. An elite team we played competitively with that usually blows us out by 20 or 30 with the regular starting line up.

So….no…. the fact that we are 1-2 with Collins starting right now wouldnt concern me any more than barely wiggling by sub-par teams with the regular starting 5.

cp

November 10th, 2010
7:25 pm

They have started off hot, hopefully the second unit dosnt blow it

Wabe

November 10th, 2010
7:26 pm

I hate that ish…

If you’re gonna foul the dude…
Knock his a$$ out or GTFO out of the way and give him 2.

superiorblogman

November 10th, 2010
7:27 pm

Crawford is just horrible on defense and Smoove has not had a shot yet.

superiorblogman

November 10th, 2010
7:28 pm

The garbage men of the bench will blow this one as usual.

Ree Roe

November 10th, 2010
7:28 pm

Jamal’s “effort” on D leaves ALOT to be desired

-REEsted Roe!!

northcyde

November 10th, 2010
7:29 pm

3 starters out of the game and the Hawks were up 13 with 3:13 to go. Let’s see what happens . . .

JeJe

November 10th, 2010
7:29 pm

FIRE RICK SUND

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 10th, 2010
7:29 pm

Powell sure is aggressive

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 10th, 2010
7:31 pm

that stinger callin the game?

ATL FAN

November 10th, 2010
7:32 pm

Agree Melvin, I don’t know how Horford can go back to being starting Center after this.

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 10th, 2010
7:33 pm

Plies killin us

Wabe

November 10th, 2010
7:33 pm

That’s not a good matchup for J.Smith on defense.

Wabe

November 10th, 2010
7:34 pm

Similar to what we saw in Orlando.

Solid coming out with the starters.
2nd unit slowly gets the Bucks back into it.

lukas

November 10th, 2010
7:35 pm

Zaza has been horrible in the last 2 games.

Ree Roe

November 10th, 2010
7:35 pm

This is a game I’d love to see Teague be more aggressive and look for his own shot. Bench gives back a big lead again

-REEturn of Roe!!

cp

November 10th, 2010
7:35 pm

Yea Mac he is and I hope he continues to

cp

November 10th, 2010
7:36 pm

This is the game where Teague needs to show something I mean anything.

cp

November 10th, 2010
7:38 pm

Dam ZaZa banging on cats

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 10th, 2010
7:38 pm

me too
fire nique

superiorblogman

November 10th, 2010
7:38 pm

Tennessee was the first state with KKK and Georgia was second. You can easily tell why the Grizz and Hawks can not draw fans because the states they play in are full of prejudice people. Sad.

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 10th, 2010
7:38 pm

Boykins looks like a circus attraction out there.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 10th, 2010
7:39 pm

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET JOSH POWELL OFF THIS ROSTER

Wabe

November 10th, 2010
7:40 pm

Zaza Pachulia = defensively handicapped

Melvin

November 10th, 2010
7:40 pm

Who is the worst defender? Bibby, Jamal or ZaZa???

cp

November 10th, 2010
7:40 pm

And the second unit blows it again. ZaZa doesnt play defense, Jamal doesnt attempt to play defense and Powell has some of the worse hands I have ever seen.

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 10th, 2010
7:40 pm

I dont know one state you cant find loads of prejudice people in, plus what does that have to do with anything?