Atlanta Hawks: Magic 93, Hawks 89

Dwight got his but Magic had to win it late. (Gary W. Green, Orlando Sentinel)

Dwight got his but Magic had to win it late. (Gary W. Green, Orlando Sentinel)

Orlando– Afterward, the Hawks seemed caught somewhere between being satisfied with their effort and disappointed with their execution when things got tight at the end.

– Asked if there was any consolation in giving a competitive effort against the Magic under the circumstances (back-to-back, no Marvin or Mo, recent history), L.D. said: “None whatsoever.”

– But he later added: “They came in here and played with a lot of energy right off the bat and I am very proud of them for doing that.”

– The Hawks were primed from the jump and built a 21-8 lead. Smoove was the catalyst with seven points, four rebounds, two assists a steal and just one turnover. “We wanted to be able to show the Orlando Magic we can come in and make a game out of it and not just hand them the game,” he said.

– Things went awry when L.D. started sending in the reserves. After Josh Powell scored for a 23-10 lead, Atlanta’s possessions to end the first quarter went like this: Jamal miss, Jamal turnover, Zaza turnover, Jamal miss, Jamal missed free throw on Rashard Lewis tech, Zaza turnover, Teague turnover, Josh miss.

– Meanwhile, the Magic scored 11 straight points with VC working against Jamal and Gortat against Zaza. The Magic beat the Hawks to some loose balls during that stretch.

– “When I went to the bench, the energy level went down,” L.D. said. “We kind of lost focus. Offensively, we started trying to do it individually and defensively we didn’t play with as much physicality as our first unit. That got Orlando going.”

– This was another game where Atlanta’s offensive numbers looked pretty good but the game was close because of a glaring deficiency in one area. It was the turnovers again tonight: 17 for 22 Magic points. Orlando also converted a high percentage of its 11 offensive rebounds into points with 16.

– Just 19 points for the Hawks in the fourth quarter with 7 of 20 shooting. Al said the Hawks lacked organization. “It was taking us too long to get into our offensive sets,” he said. “So instead of getting into our plays at 16 or 17 [on the shot clock], we were doing it at 8. That was kind of putting ourselves in a jam.”

VC had a classic VC game: Superb for stretches but shaky at the end. He left the Hawks an opening with two missed free throws but his driving basket against Horford on a switch was the difference. I couldn’t see the play from way, way up in my media perch and I missed the replay but some Tweeps said it was a bad call.

– “I watched him last night and Horford was switching everything,” Jason Williams said. “I was kind of surprised they waited that late to do it.”

– No need to switch with Jameer (ankle) out and Duhon in. J-Will finished for Orlando instead of Duhon.

– “I thought our execution of what the gameplan was was right on the money,” L.D. said. “We wanted to defend the three; I thought we did a good job of that. We wanted to defend Howard one-on-one; I thought we did a good job of that. We just didn’t make timely plays.”

– J.J. had another strong game. He had just one turnover, but it was critical: Dribbling across the lane with the Hawks leading 82-81, he lost the ball out of bounds. J-Will made a 3 after that and the Magic never trailed again as the Hawks missed three consecutive 3-pointers (Bibby, J.J. and, um, Josh).

Twin did about the only thing he could with Dwight, which is to hold his ground and make Howard use his athleticism to score. Howard did so, going for 27 on 10 of 20 shooting and seven free throws. Etan and Zaza did their best, too, but Dwight couldn’t be denied despite foul trouble.

– “He’s a monster down there and seems like his post game has only gotten better,” Josh said. “That’s going to be hard top stop when he is doing that and making free throws at the same time.”

– It helped that the Hawks caught the Magic on a night when they missed a handful of open looks at the 3-point line (Bibby was particularly guilty of losing his man). “I thought tonight was a good win for us because we’re shooting the ball so poorly right now,” Stan Van Gundy said. “Our perimeter shooting has been abominable and we had to win just by fighting.”

– Still, several times in the fourth quarter the Hawks worked hard to scramble and find shooters, the kind of extended effort L.D. has been seeking. The Magic never really delivered the long stretches of perimeter daggers that usually do in the Hawks.

– At least the Hawks now believe they have a plan that can work against Orlando. “No question,” Al said. “I think now more than ever. It’s a new year. We are a different team. We feel confident. It was encouraging.”

– — “Definitely this is something we can build on,.” J.J. said. “We feel like we can honestly play with any team in this league. I think our coaching staff does a great job of preparing us and getting us ready for games.”

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

167 comments Add your comment

George

November 8th, 2010
11:43 pm

Repost from the Last Blog:

Ken. S,

I’m glad to see your positive approach to these losses. I truly feel like even though these last two games were losses, you can honestly say that they could have gone either way. That means a lot, considering that the Hawks were not only shorthanded, but they are also relatively new to L.D.’s changes. There were a lot of positives from tonight’s game. The Hawks’ motion offense continues to look better and better. It’s still very early in the season, but already the team looks like it’s getting very comfortable executing in this new system. In many cases, the Hawks are getting wide open looks and just missing shots, but the numbers don’t lie, as they indicate that the Hawks are already near the top of the league in offensive efficiency, and I think that the offense will only get better. Defensively, the players are really starting to show commitment and buy into what L.D. is saying. The defense tonight looked better than it has in a long time. People can say what they like, but the Magic didn’t have a poor shooting night just because they missed open shots, more than anything the Hawks played some great defense on the Magic’s shooters and forced a lot of tough shots, and kept them off of the 3 point line. I’m confident that the Hawks defense will only get better as well. I’ve already seen some great signs. For the first time in a long, long time, I see players taking charges, our guards attempting to fight through screens and nice trapping and pick-and-roll defense. Things might not always turn out for the better, but the team is showing a lot of maturity and growth. There have been no signs of fourth quarter meltdowns this season, and the Hawks don’t look intimidated or like they’ve given up at any points in the games. Honestly, both the Phoenix game and this one could have been wins, and we could be 8-0 right now, but even though we didn’t pick up the wins on the stat sheet, the team is making a lot of progress that will pay off big-time as the season progresses.

I agree with you that if the Hawks keep this up and continue to improve, they may not win every game, but they definitely won’t get blown out or embarrassed. They are already proving that. The team is shorthanded and had every opportunity to give in last night when they were down 18, but they kept on fighting and almost pulled out the win. Tonight, they were likely fatigued and could have hung their heads after last night’s loss or knowing that they were facing a rested Magic team who has had their number for years now. But, the Hawks played strong, inspired basketball and almost pulled off the upset, while being down 2 key rotation players. I already think that this team looks a lot better than last season’s team did, and in terms of mentality, they look like they’re making great strides. I have faith that we are going to continue to see improvement and continue to rack up the wins. Even though we are still shorthanded, Wednesday’s game looks very winnable.

lewis

November 8th, 2010
11:48 pm

good game tonight hawks

cp

November 8th, 2010
11:51 pm

From the last blog………………….Ray I don’t want instant success from Teague and I know its early in the season but lets be honest here, he hasn’t shown much with his opportunities. I know he is raw but at some point it would be nice to see him just play a good game when given minutes…I have been pleased with his defense but I don’t like how much he defers to Jamal or his inability to knock down those wide open jumpers. His floater doesn’t look much better from last season either. I don’t know whats up with him because he looks nothing like the player he was coming out of Wake Forest. Dude used to dunk on cats and show some emotion now he looks timid and when he gets in the lane he doesn’t try to draw that contact. He needs to step it up..

bigdave

November 8th, 2010
11:56 pm

the last 2 questions and quotes say it all..

Jody

November 9th, 2010
12:07 am

Didn’t the Hawks out rebound the Magic? When’s the last time that happened? I think the altered lineup had a lot to do with that.

Wabe

November 9th, 2010
12:09 am

Going back to the convo from the last blog about Teague.

The thing about it is, he offers you a different skill set than Bibby offers. If for instance, the Hawks draw a matchup with a more talented PG that is shredding Bibby on defense, people will be screaming for Teague to be inserted into the lineup. He plays defense with a swagger. He’s aggressive.

Offensively, it doesn’t come as natural to him. He doesn’t have much of an outside game, but, I’ll say, if J.Smith’s jumper can improve – why would you doubt JT0?

JT0 is more of a “project”. He was the 6th or 7th PG drafted (not sure). But, nonetheless, he wasn’t supposed to be an instant starter. People who may be disappointed in him are those who may have had unrealistic expectations from the get go. I’ve said this numerous times, and I’ll repeat. The kid has a skill set that I don’t think any other gaurd on the roster can match. One of the best on-ball defenders we have. Defensively, he’s already good and can be great. Offensively, he’s got work to do. But, you can’t really give up on a kid 8 games into real action. He does need to display more confidence in his offensive game and not be as passive/timid. But, I think that comes with time. I still think he’s just gun-shy. But, if he can ever develop the confidence on the offensive end that he displays on the defensive end – he *can* be scary.

Wabe

November 9th, 2010
12:13 am

All I’m looking for out of the kid is progression. Whether he’s the starter by mid-season or playoff time – that doesn’t really matter to me. If the kid is improving, then he’s on the right track.

8 games into it isn’t even fair to the kid. He’s already a year behind the learning curve – thank Mike Woodson. But, he’s getting minutes, and I’d expect his minute total to increase as the season continues. His minutes played will be dependent on his performance. Both obviously play hand in hand – but I’m expecting both to increase.

The Truth

November 9th, 2010
12:18 am

Now that Josh has gotten the opponents attention with his newly discovered outside game, I think it is time for him to re-discover his inside game (again). He has miss-fired shots inside that would have been automatic last year. When he gets both areas working for him with his defense, he will be the opponents’ worst nightmare. But he must learn to stay focus as he still experience moments of lapses with critical TO late in games. But overall, I am impressed with Josh improvements in shooting the ball outside. Now he just needs to remember not to compromise one for the other.

Wabe

November 9th, 2010
12:22 am

“I thought our execution of what the gameplan was was right on the money,” L.D. said. “We wanted to defend the three.”

The Magic may have been off, but I think that sums up the gameplan defensively. That’s why a lot of us here feel like the Magic were off. The Hawks had something to do with it, maybe not all of it, but definitely some of it. So credit is due. The Hawks perimeter guys made the extra effort to assure that the Magic wouldn’t get any open looks. Hands up, closing out, solid rotations.

The Truth

November 9th, 2010
12:33 am

LD must solve Orlando’s defensive trapping riddle to be successful against them. Our problem in this area seems to be a lack of proper spacing. JJ is crowded in ISO late in the game with ball pressure from a gang of Orlando players with no room to operate. Where are our slashers when you need them?

Stuart

November 9th, 2010
12:56 am

Game was very winnable… It was rough seeing the 13 point 1st quarter lead given away so quickly. There were a few times where the defense was leaving outside shooters too open, but fortunately they missed the shots this time. Also the double down on Dwight came too late a couple of times. But the defense certainly looked better than before overall. So, use it to get a win next time. Need to get back to winning…

Truth

November 9th, 2010
1:08 am

Bottom line… Orlando had an awful night shooting 3s, many of which were uncontested. If they hit their usual quota of 3s, they attain their usual romp of the Hawks. You can say we were missing Marvin, but they were missing Nelson.

MsDee

November 9th, 2010
1:39 am

The Hawks defense was great and very unexpecting to the Magic tonight. We had NEVER played defense like that against them and THAT’S WHY ORLANDO HAD A BAD SHOOTING NIGHT. People can say what they want to but it WAS our defense that made them rush the uncontested ones they missed. If we can keep this up, we could definitely beat ANYBODY in this league!!

tony

November 9th, 2010
6:40 am

This lost is on Drew. He should of taken the 2nd unit back out the game when they had trouble scoring points. I knew when we lost the lead that we would lose this game because Orlando already have the confidence that they can beat the hawks. You have to play smart basketball from start to finish to defeat Orlando. I have been very impress with Drew coaching style but he dropped the ball on this one.

Hmmm

November 9th, 2010
6:49 am

Maybe Marvin should come off the bench when he returns?

Hmmm

November 9th, 2010
6:51 am

Just mnor Growing Pains for the bench. It will pay off in the long run when they gain confidence. Kind of like a Pheonix bench.

Hmmm

November 9th, 2010
6:51 am

Ramon

November 9th, 2010
7:15 am

So Tony you’re saying on the night after majority of the starters played 40+ minutes at home against Phoenix, that LD should’ve played the starters 40+ minutes again? And you think if he did this, the Hawks would’ve came out on top and would’ve not been worn out at the end of the game?

Ramon

November 9th, 2010
7:16 am

O’Brien, Josh shot really well actually on his jumpers. He only missed one, which was a three from the corner. He missed a lot of contested shots (where contact was on the play) around the basket (one missed tip in), and a sequence close to the end where he was surrounded by three Magic players, and missed 3 attempts right under the basket. I always goto ESPN box score and look at the individual player’s shot charts to see how they shot the ball. Josh jumpers in the first half, opened up a lot of pump fakes and drives later on. Unfortunately he was unable to get the layups to fall.

As much as I still believe Josh is the best PF on the roster. To have a more defensive presence on the bench, is there anyway that LD can give Marvin a starting position back? Collins proved his value to me tonight. He could be our version of Royal Ivey. And having Marvin come off the bench, could give Teague and JC1 more room to drive on the second unit. I think this last three games, if anything, has shown LD he has a lot of options with this roster that he may not have known before.

By the way, is anyone else tired of Josh Powell’s jumpers? As a backup PF not named Laettner, you shouldn’t have more jump shot attempts than you have rebounds.

Also, the ball still doesn’t move as much when JC1 is in the game. While sometimes it can seem like a big game changer in a positive way. It ends up leaving the rest of the bench unprepared to knock down shots or have any ball movement.

O'Brien

November 9th, 2010
7:45 am

“I think our coaching staff does a great job of preparing us and getting us ready for games.” JJ .

big dave, are you implying that’s a subtle jab at Woody?

Hawks should not hang their head for this loss. There were some key mistakes, but overall, they played well, and took a big step forward showing they can compete with Orlando, on the second night of a back to back, in Orlando.

Phoenix, on their second game of a back to back, lost to Memphis in Memphis by double figures.

O'Brien

November 9th, 2010
7:47 am

Ramon,

I’ll have to start checking the shot chart. But I’m with you. When Marvin comes back, I don’t think LD should automatically give him his starting job back. I think LD should look at the matchups and make that determination.

In addition to him opening the driving lanes for JC1 and Teague, Marvin on the second unit would help defensively as well, since Jamal and ZaZa are liabilities, and he might be able to have a bigger impact on the bench.

And this would also give Al more minutes at PF, where I think he has looked good. And I am also not a fan of Josh Powell and the jumpers.

I was very skeptical of bringing back Twin, but I must say I have been pleasantly surprised by his play. Hopefully he can keep it up. I’m still not sure about the Etan signing though.

Section 303

November 9th, 2010
7:50 am

I guess we should be happy that the Hawks played so tough. I can’t help feeling like they let this one get away, though. Hawks should have won.

No one seems to have the ability to hit a big shot late in these past two defeats. Joe Johnson threw up a stupid shot, early in the shot clock, late against Phoenix. And, the entire team went cold late last night. There are going to be plenty more tight games (like tomorrow’s game against the Bucks, for instance), the Hawks need someone to step up and perform in tough situations.

JeJe

November 9th, 2010
7:51 am

Our schedule is not hard the rest of the month.

Rest Mo and Marvin as long as needed and DO NOT bring them back early

Section 303

November 9th, 2010
8:03 am

I like that word Van Gundy used, “abominable”.

Used in a sentence: Jeff Teague has been “abominable” this season.

lewis

November 9th, 2010
8:11 am

The media doesn’t consider us contenders, who cares.

After witnessing the past two games against Phx and Orl, it is clear that we are a more difficult team to beat than last year. Stan Van Gundy can say the Hawks are the same exact team in pre-game interviews, but he, the condescending Orl commentators and the rest of the league are going to realize this isn’t the immature mental lapsing no effort Hawks of years past.

Joe, Al Josh and Marvin and the return of Mike Bibby’s pride. If only we had a bench.

TRADE JAMAL HIS + – IS ALWAYS – EVEN WHEN HE SCORES 25 PPG

Ramon

November 9th, 2010
8:13 am

Section 303, hitting big shots at the end of the 4th quarter is normally equated to level of fatigue and energy. And I disagree. I think Joe did hit a few clutch shots in the 4th quarter. Josh hit a clutch back door layup with the assist going to Al.

Is it just me, or could any one else actually see themselves ok with seeing Bibby shoot more in the fourth quarter of games?

Coldwork

November 9th, 2010
8:20 am

The Hawks were lucky that wasn’t a 15 point win by the Magic. They missed a lot of 3’s that usually go in.

terrell

November 9th, 2010
8:23 am

The same people giving up on Teague are the same people who wanted to trade Josh Smith. lol!

terrell

November 9th, 2010
8:28 am

Bring Marvin off the bench with Teague Jamal Mo and Zaza when he comes back. Josh looks fine at the 3 in this offense. Now would be the perfect time to get something for Marvin.(if possible) Center or pg preferrably. Marvin has looked pretty good this year. Just sayin

Section 303

November 9th, 2010
8:28 am

Ramon, they’re going to be tired at the end of games. They just are. And, so will the other team. I’m not buying your fatigue theory. And, the Joe Johnson shot I was referring to was the one where he just mindlessly drove into three guys and heaved up a near airball late against the Suns. Not really clutch for someone making his kind of bank.

terrell, I’ve given up on Teague and I didn’t want to trade Josh.

Section 303

November 9th, 2010
8:29 am

Ramon, one more thing, I’m with ya on the Bibby thing. I have no problem with him taking big shots. He is a great set shooter.

ILL-Logical

November 9th, 2010
8:30 am

Good all around effort by the team ,especially in a back to back game. The good news is that the new offense is working at least for 3 quarters and the man to man defense worked for 31/2 quarters.Confidence should be building among the team about the upside potential as they continue to learn the new systems.

Offensive rebounding still needs improvement and a low post threat for the times when the jump shots aren’t falling remain as goals. 7-2 is not bad considering the new systems and injuries.

Ramon

November 9th, 2010
8:33 am

Coldwork, you’re wrong buddy. The Magic don’t normally make CONTESTED 3 pt attempts. The Hawks in the past have given up uncontested 3 pt attempts from doubling on Dwight. For a while, I’ve been pushing for the Hawks not to double Dwight. The Magic went to Dwight the first 5 possessions of the game expecting to see the Hawks double and leave shooters open. However, when the Hawks didn’t do this, the Magic were left bewildered. The only thing that saved the Magic last night was an uncharacteristic high percentage at the free throw line by Dwight. If the D12 misses his normal amount of free throws, the Hawks win simple as that. And also cutting back on the turnovers would be wonderful. But this is the formula to beating Orlando. This is the formula LAL, Boston, Mia, and Charlotte each used against Orlando. And it works! Orlando backcourt is too stubborn to sit there and watch Howard go for 40+ points. So they will end up forcing up bad shots.

Ramon

November 9th, 2010
8:36 am

Section 303, I didn’t see Phoenix game, so I can’t comment on that game. But I understand what you’re saying. The problem for me is in the last 3 minutes all motion stops and it goes back to ISO Joe, ISO Jamal, ISO Al, or ISO Josh. You need to keep the motion going until no time is on the clock. Motion forces fouls, especially in crunch time. I understand what you’re saying though.

terrell

November 9th, 2010
8:55 am

How bout something like
Jamal/Marvin to Dallas for Haywood and Butler?(2 guys who’ve been in this offense)
Haywood could start at center, and Butler could backup the 2 and the 3.
Bibby(who looks better btw)/JJ/Josh/Al/Haywood
Teague/Mo/Butler/Zaza/Twin
Powell/JC2/Etan
Just a thought? Would it work on the trade machine, for you trade machine junkies? lol!

Harris DDS

November 9th, 2010
9:00 am

I was impressed with our ability to challenge orlando up until the bitter end of last nights game. However, you can still see the confidence in Dwight Howard whenever we play them. Until we actually pull a win against these clowns, Howard will continue to play better than his numbers.

terrell

November 9th, 2010
9:00 am

I’d rather see a Teague/Mo/Butler combination off the bench. This Teague/Jamal/ thing isnt working.
I hate to say it, but it might be time to move Jamal. His body language just isnt the same.

yodaddy

November 9th, 2010
9:04 am

It must be some women on this comment section because every little thing is nitpicked.

Both Joe Johnson & Jamal Crawford are clutch players…it just so happens it didn’t work out the past few games. How many game winners have each of them hit??? The answer is plenty. Mike Bibby also knocks down plenty of clutch and timely shots. Josh Smith knocked down the clutch 3 to win the Minnesota game but he missed the one last night…that’s how it goes sometimes.

People are stating the Magic missed open 3’s well guess what the Hawks played some defense. That’s like me saying the Hawks had 20 turnovers…well the Magic played some defense too. The Hawks missed layups and Dwight hit free throws. It’s a basketball game. The important thing was very few dunks, layups, and open threes.

Josh Smith missed some shots under the rim…well guess what Dwight Howard plays for the Magic and makes players think twice about shots at the rim. That’s just how it is. We all saw how he smacked Etan’s shot and went on fast break and the very next play Etan missed two layups.

The Magic had no Jameer Nelson…The Hawks didn’t have a SF suit up.

The bottom line was that this was a well played competitive game that could have gone either way. The Hawks showed the heart that historically has been missing everytime we play the Magic. They also showed they will not back down and just defer to teams with superstars (NASH & Dwight) as well as displaying that they can surely win on the road against elite teams. The Josh Smith jumper has to be respected.

The bench play could be better but it’s still a work in progress and a few turnovers could have been prevented but overall I’d give this game a B+.

wordsmithtom

November 9th, 2010
9:12 am

Orlando dominated Hawks when they tried to double team him. Using Collins/Zaza/Etan 3 quarters while keeping Al fresh to defend him in the 4th worked much better. He got his, but the TEAM did not get theirs….. A different way of addressing Orlando yields a different result. Why didn’t Woody try this???

SR

November 9th, 2010
9:19 am

Are the hawks really trying to spin this as a moral victory? You were held to 89 points and the magic shot 18% from 3 good luck forcing the magic to shoot 18% from 3 again if they hit the normal rate of 3’s they would have won by 15 plus. ATL Hawks best of the 2nd Tier.

yodaddy

November 9th, 2010
9:20 am

Stop with the dumb trade scenarios.

Why would we want Brendan Haywood?? Especially when we have 3 centers already on the roster??? Pachulia is better than Haywood.

Haywood averages 3.2 ppg and 4.2 rebounds in 17 minutes
Pachulia averages 6.8 ppg and 4.8 rebounds in 17 minutes

We would essentially trade the reigning 6th man of the year and a starter…for a redundant backup big man (when we already have 3 centers on the roster) and Caron Butler (an older nondefensive downgrade from Marvin Williams). That’s a horrible trade.

Caron Butler 14.2 ppg, 5 reb, 1 assist, 39%, 32 mpg (Starter)
Crawford 16 ppg, 2 reb, 3 assist, 44%, 29 mpg (Bench)
Williams 12 ppg, 6 reb, 1.4 assist, 52%, 30 min (starter)

It’s a no brainer. Horrible trade

KevinM

November 9th, 2010
9:26 am

O’B, as much as I would like to agree with you and make Marvin earn his way back to major minutes and the starting lineup, really, who on this is going to keep him on the bench? He has performed his normal good/absent games this year already and when you think he is on a roll, he gets hurt.
I dunno, I see Marvin as a complementary 2nd pick player. I gotta admit, he is much better than Milicic or even Michael Beasley, but honestly, how can someone ranked so high be so inconsistent.

The problem will always be as long as Marvin’s here………….its his position at SF and he has little competition. If LD can get him to perform well late in games consistently, then JC1’s minutes should go down and basically be less important to us. But, it is good to be able get JC1 off the bench and know you can get production from #11.

Looking at last night, the Hawks played an inconsistent game. Good spots, not so good spots. I know they are still trying to figure each other out, but mature teams and teams that have been together as long as this group shouldn’t have so many questions. This team is full of questions and will be going forward. Aside of Al and Joe, and most of the time, Smoove and JC1, you absolutely no clue what kind of performance you’re going to get from the rest of the roster. It’s amazing to watch how irregular the performances are.

Ramon, missed free throws and missed 3’s by the Magic are what they are….that’s not the reason the Hawks lost was because Dwight made more than normal. Like Marvin being out for us, Jameer, who is a huge piece to their team, hurt their chances. The Hawks should have won, no matter, instead of could have. Losing your PG is much more important than your 5th best option on offense.

Coldwork

November 9th, 2010
9:31 am

Ramon,

That’s an incredible rose colored glasses look at that game last night. The Magic were 4-22 from 3. They had lots of good looks from 3 but just weren’t making them. Atlanta didn’t defend the 3 that well except for the fact that the Magic just missed most of them.

Dwight Howard went 7-11 from the line. He’s normally around 60%. That’s pretty much spot on for his career. The reason the Hawks were even in the game is because the Magic weren’t making anything from the perimeter. The scored almost half their points in the paint. If the Magic have an average shooting night from 3, it’s a 15 point loss for the Hawks.

darrell starks

November 9th, 2010
9:34 am

Good coaching from LD last night but he must keep collins in the game 2 match up with howard at all time, it doesn’t matter if collin fouls out in the first he must play against howard.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

ignition

November 9th, 2010
9:35 am

The team is fine & very versatile the way it’s constructed. The offense is fine and crisp when we running the motion offensive sets. It’s the late game back to iso Joe when we drag and start to be ineffective, we have got to continue to keep running our set plays.
We also need to adjust our switch defense and have Bibby & Joe fight through or go around the pics instead of switching…

ignition

November 9th, 2010
9:38 am

If LD wants this team to have a defensive minded approach to the games then Bibby and Jamal shouldn’t be on the court together to close out games.. What we lose in offensive firepower we make up and then some in defensively.

lewis

November 9th, 2010
9:40 am

Lol @ Coldwork

So whenever the magic lose, it has nothing to do with the opposing teams defense. nice to know.

darrell starks

November 9th, 2010
9:41 am

Bad adjustment late in the fourth BIBBY, JAMAL, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD.
should have been JAMAL, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, COLLINS.

jason william can not guard jamal in the post
jj redick can not guard joe in the post
LD should make team adjust 2 his advantage not the other way around.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

bigdave

November 9th, 2010
9:41 am

“big dave, are you implying that’s a subtle jab at Woody?”

sure..but more of a sign that guys have bought in on LD’s philosophies.. and its evident out on the floor. im excited..

guys are confident in the scheme and game plan.. and it shows in player effort. ask the queen.. what was it, game 5 or 6 vs. boston? hell, we even saw Joe hit the deck going after a loose ball..

terrell

November 9th, 2010
9:45 am

Calm down yo daddy. It was just a thought. Jamal doesnt look like he wants to be here, and your’re still talking bout the reining 6th man of the year. THAT WAS LAST YEAR. HE WAS HAPPY. THIS IS THIS YEAR. HE’S NOT. And btw Haywood gives us a defensive prescence. Zaza doesnt. Who cares about statistics?