Phoenix Suns at Atlanta Hawks: Larry Drew stays big with lineup
L.D. is using the same lineup today as he did at Minnesota: Bibby, J.J., Josh, Al and Collins.
That alignment “worked out better than I thought it would” against the T-Wolves, Drew said, but he considered changing it today for one reason: “Their strength is they have one of the best pick-and-roll players in the game.”
That would be Steve Nash, of course. Remember that Woody’s switches worked pretty well on Nash because Josh and Al could contain him on the dribble and make him take challenged jumpers.
Nash’s numbers against the Hawks in two games last season: 9 points, 8.5 assists, 33.3% FG, 0% 3FG, 29 min. His numbers overall: 16.5 points, 11 assists, 51% FG, 43% 3FG, 33 min.
L.D. said the Suns run so many pick-and-rolls the Hawks will get caught in switches whether they want to our not. If it turns out the bigs can’t handle them then he said he would go smaller.
“I don’t want to put them in bad situations,” he said.
As for Smoove at small forward, L.D. said he “did a good job picking and choosing his spots” to take jumpers against the T-Wolves. There were a few times in that game where you could see Josh think about taking an early jumper before passing back out to set up the offense. That a sign of Smith “getting a better feel for the game and the flow.”
So far Drew said he’s not concerned about Josh’s ability to guard small forwards.
“Smoove at the three is just as effective defensively as he is at the four,” he said. “I will stay with [the lineup] for now, until we run up against a team where it gives them a clear advantage.”
And what about Twin’s increased role?
“He’s a solid low-post defender,” L.D. said. “You really don’t have to be concerned about helping him down there.”
Injury report
Mo (knee) is out. L.D. ruled him out for Monday at Orlando, too. Marvin will be reevaluated later this week. There’s a chance he will miss more time.
Chills is back
Josh Childress said he he never thought there was no way a return to the Hawks couldn’t happen: “You never know.”
The way it ended up is he’s in Phoenix and the Hawks got a trade exception that they still hold.
“I’m definitely happy with the result,” he said. “I had a great time in Atlanta. For those two years they did well, and I did well. It worked out for both parties.”
Did he feel like there was never much enthusiasm from Hawks GM Rick Sund to bring him back?
“It’s part of the business,” he said. “It’s something you learn playing in the NBA. They made a business decision, just as players do. I’ve just got to roll with it.”
Childress is playing with a splint on the index finger of his right hand. He will wear it for another 3 1/2 weeks.
“I’m just trying to get out there and contribute until it heals,” he said.
MC
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235 comments Add your comment
anod
November 7th, 2010
4:58 pm
looking for joe to have a big game tonight
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
5:04 pm
This is surely loss number 1, just too many things against the Hawks, but I think Teague has his breakout game tonight
JSS
November 7th, 2010
5:05 pm
Chills and Siler…
lewis
November 7th, 2010
5:06 pm
0 people at the game damn
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
5:07 pm
Don’t sound like the Hawks were really interested in re-signing JChill per his comments.
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
5:08 pm
truthspitter,
I hope you are as wrong as you have been all year.
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
5:13 pm
Here’s to hoping Truthspitter keeps his wrong predictions streak in tact…
O'Brien
November 7th, 2010
5:19 pm
I think Teague will get lots of PT this evening. I hope he is up to the challenge
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
5:20 pm
Quick start for the Suns…
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:20 pm
and this is how they play against a good team? well marvin is hurt right smh
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
5:21 pm
Houston, we have a small forward problem.
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
5:21 pm
This team is garbage and noone cares about them. There are less than the 15,000 I predicted there. They are now depressed after they finally realized noone cares about them and there bloated record
O'Brien
November 7th, 2010
5:22 pm
As a team, the Hawks have struggled this season making 3 pointers. Eventually, it will catch up to them. And when you’re trailing, the 3 pointer can be a good way to get back into it.
Hawks Better step up their defense though.
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:22 pm
lol@truth
lewis
November 7th, 2010
5:23 pm
sucks no one’s there i mean we really do have agood squadron
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
5:23 pm
good drive Josh.. jumper looks good of late but dont settle..
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:25 pm
nobody will show up for the hawks games untill they get a superstar
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:26 pm
is josh shooting percentage better than joe’s?
Jerry West
November 7th, 2010
5:28 pm
“Josh Childress said he he never thought there was no way a return to the Hawks couldn’t happen”
what a sentence
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
5:30 pm
keep knocking them down Al.. thats your game..
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
5:31 pm
J Rich going for 40. I knew Teague would have a good game today though. He is a not made for Eastern Conference play he is a up and down guy to the Tee.
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:34 pm
Joe is just off bad
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
5:37 pm
Jeff Teague look real good in that 1st qtr…
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
5:38 pm
Up 3, insert bench now down 2, look for those swings all game because there bench is so much better than the Hawks
Najeh Davenpoop
November 7th, 2010
5:38 pm
I have the game streaming on mute. What kind of reception did Childress get from the crowd?
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
5:39 pm
got booed lol
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
5:39 pm
Najeh..
booed.
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
5:39 pm
More boos than cheers, Najeh.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
5:39 pm
even Rathbun called out the “boo birds”
i_am_soulstar
November 7th, 2010
5:41 pm
They should play inside out, Suns don’t have a much of a low post presence
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:41 pm
man hawks cant rebound for nothing
i_am_soulstar
November 7th, 2010
5:41 pm
Childress got booed
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
5:43 pm
careless passing and allowing the coast to coast lay up
jtshoopsblog
November 7th, 2010
5:43 pm
Atlanta will win this one.
i_am_soulstar
November 7th, 2010
5:44 pm
Can we please put Horford back in? Ride your hot hand L.D.
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
5:44 pm
Hawks look as if they are trying to pace themselves to the 2nd half…
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:47 pm
every game I have seen hawks are now a jump shooting team
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:48 pm
and this is not no motion offense players are just standing around
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
5:49 pm
you know the phrase, “take my/his talents to..” needs to be retired when Nique uses it..
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
5:50 pm
Surprise to see LD took Teague out the game so early in 2nd after playing well…
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
5:52 pm
oh joeeee
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
5:52 pm
like Jo. Crawford’s game
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
5:55 pm
The bench is useless with the exception of Teague tonight. We are not rebounding for like the 3rd or 4th game in a row and noone other than Horford can make a shot. The first choke job of the year right before your eyes people
Zike
November 7th, 2010
5:55 pm
What’s up with the comments running so short per page?
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
5:58 pm
This is just too easy for PHX …wtf
hawks_4_life
November 7th, 2010
5:58 pm
NO DEFENSE AT ALL
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
5:59 pm
Teague with a nice dish there.. wow..
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
5:59 pm
where was the motion
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
6:01 pm
The Hawks are straight garbage. This is the 1st time they have been really tested this year outside of giving up the lead to the Cavs and they are folding. This so-called motion offense is motionless. What a joke of a team. No defense at all. Hedo is open every play just like Rashad Lewis, Vince Carter, and every Magic player seems to be. Preview guys. What a joke
lewis
November 7th, 2010
6:09 pm
offense looked fine jordan and jamal crawford are just weak right now
they’re hitting all their 3’s and we’re missing all ours
teague looks good
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
6:09 pm
This reminds me of what the Knicks came into the Hawks building and did to them last year. Same thing, this team is no better than last year.
hawks_4_life
November 7th, 2010
6:10 pm
There is no defense at all going on.
Whats up with the blog format
Hawks v Suns
November 7th, 2010
6:10 pm
Hawks need a strong 2nd half. Orlando might be be licking their lips if the Hawks can’t play stronger.
Real Talk
November 7th, 2010
6:11 pm
You guys think PHX is exposing the Hawks unbeaten winning streak against scrubs its going to be even worse tomorrow night in Orlando. I bet the Magic are lickin their Chops for this LMAO
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
6:12 pm
Truthspitter, I was at that Knicks game and this looks NOTHING like that game.
Against the Knicks I saw almost no defensive effort. I’m seeing effort, but the Suns are shooting well so far. I think we’ll come back.
Tyler
November 7th, 2010
6:13 pm
Outside of Al Horford, the play of the team has been disgusting in this first half. The defense isn’t there, and the guards can’t guy a basket. Al Horford has been a beast, but he’s getting almost no help at all. Josh is hustling and working hard, you can see that, but our backcourt is almost giving us nothing and the has been awful so far tonight. The Hawks need to step it up big on in the second half, especially on defense. On offense, the Hawks need to work the ball inside more. The Suns really have no one who can guard Al inside, and there’s no doubt that he’s going to attract a lot of attention inside if he’s given the ball, considering the way he’s been torching the Suns in the first half. Getting the ball inside will not only help our bigs, but it will also free up our guards on the perimeter who have been ice cold. Bibby has been terrible tonight, Teague has been OK, and Joe continues to struggle, plus Jordan Crawford looks lost out there. The Hawks need to ride Al and Josh to get back into this game and grab a win.
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
6:16 pm
Funny how Joe is 5-9 but it’s like “He’s struggling”
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
6:19 pm
Entire story of the game:
PHX: 5-9 on 3’s
ATL 0-8
lewis
November 7th, 2010
6:22 pm
jamal has 0 points 0-4 3
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
6:23 pm
Excuse me.
PHX: 6-14 from 3
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
6:23 pm
Sautee,
Probably b/c Joe hit at least 3 shots in the paint…
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:24 pm
suns hitting highly contested jumpers.. can they keep it up?
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:26 pm
Josh’s ball handling has improved ..
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:28 pm
What the ____ are the hawks tryin to do with all this fancy passing? Just make the play.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:29 pm
bottom line
Suns are knocking down jumpers.
Hawks arent.
lewis
November 7th, 2010
6:30 pm
josh powell sucks
lewis
November 7th, 2010
6:30 pm
we were doing better with cheeseburger
Real Talk
November 7th, 2010
6:31 pm
lol @ Bob “Its about to be Code Red time in here”
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
6:31 pm
The Hawks get it to 7. Bibby makes a bad pass next thing you know its at 15. Turnovers, poor defense, lack of hustle, no rebounding, not getting back on defense, Josh shooting jumpers, all the things that they have been getting away with are coming back to bite them. This team is so garbage
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:32 pm
believe it or not.. like it or not, missing Marvin vs this Suns team…
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:34 pm
lol@Marvin’s tie
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
6:36 pm
Why hasnt LD going back to Teague? Bibby aint doing nothing but causing defensive breakdowns..
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
6:37 pm
overrated
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
6:38 pm
Melvin, there is why.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:39 pm
seems like something WOODSON would do huh
smh
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
6:39 pm
This team shows why we needed to have one more swing player.
lewis
November 7th, 2010
6:39 pm
how are u gona have bibby guaring richardson
Real Talk
November 7th, 2010
6:39 pm
@ Big Dave, Marvin wouldn’t made a BIG difference. The problem with this team, with the exception of Horford, is that they have no HEART. It been proven for the past three years. They fold under pressure. LD has shown to be a good offensive head coach but what is his answer to Defense?
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:39 pm
heat up guys.. lets go..
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:41 pm
wow nash
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:42 pm
LOL 4 pt play opp.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:42 pm
Real Talk..
i think you’re overreacting a bit.. the deficit is a matter of misses vs. makes.. i like what Marvin brings us on the defensive end..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:43 pm
there’s your “heart” right there.. they’ve showed resilience early this season..
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
6:43 pm
Dominique Wilkins is as bad as advertised with the commentary
Jamal Crawford doing it again
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
6:43 pm
Lick those fingers Jamal….
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:43 pm
kill the switches LD
terrell
November 7th, 2010
6:44 pm
Hawks must be looking ahead to Orlando. And what’s up with all the back-to-backs?
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:44 pm
man we have to win this…so many people were waitin on this game to point how the Hawks are a “fraud”
Big Ray
November 7th, 2010
6:44 pm
Suns offensive scheme is slick. They keep making Josh and Al come out to defend guards and guys like Hedo.
Yuck. Missing Marvin for that reason. Mo Evans, too. Believe it or not.
Jamal isn’t scoring, and has more turnovers than assists. No reason to have him on the floor when he’s playing like that, because you KNOW the defense isn’t there, either.
Cannot continue to trade baskets with them. That’s how they win. It’s NOT how WE win games.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:45 pm
lol got back in it QUICK
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
6:46 pm
they just did it again
GET A CENTER HAWKS,HORSFORD IS A PF
November 7th, 2010
6:46 pm
why do josh smith thinks he is a point guard?
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
6:46 pm
Just trap Nash on the pick and roll plays….damn
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
6:47 pm
They will have to go underneath these picks…steve nash is killing the pick and roll
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:47 pm
makes vs. misses.
Big Ray
November 7th, 2010
6:47 pm
Ever think you’d be saying that? You know, missing Marvin and Mo…but it’s true. Suns are exploiting us on defense.
Where’s Teague? He played like a man on a mission in the first half.
On the plus side, Joe is on fire, so is The Boss, and Josh is doing good things within the flow.
Finally picked our rebounding up (JJ was a big help here), I was embarrassed at us losing that part of the battle for the better part of this game. Closed the gap with that and some shots. Speaking of which, I call Jamal out and he hits a 3, LOL.
Big Ray
November 7th, 2010
6:48 pm
And another 3 for Jamal. Hah, I call him out and he starts hitting…
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
6:48 pm
Nice 3rd qtr by the Hawks..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:48 pm
Josh needs to stop cheating when guarding his man.. stay home.. and make him shoot over you, or make a post move.. Warrick has no post skill, gave him a basket..
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
6:49 pm
Now there weak bench will be exposed because Josh Smith is tired for sure all of that and you are still down 4 points. First loss at home that is just bad.
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
6:51 pm
Ha,ha…. finally a shot call goes the Hawks way….
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:51 pm
Big Ray..
you made my point for me.. the versatility Marvin brings us on defense being able to guard a 3 or 4.. plus you can move Al back to the center spot and not have it cost you on the offensive end..
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
6:52 pm
The Hawks look straight lost on defense…
They’ve reverted to the switching?
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:54 pm
thank you.. weak post player. good d Z
Big Ray
November 7th, 2010
6:55 pm
bigdave ,
Yep, you called it right on the head.
Wabe ,
Suns forced that on us. Notice we hadn’t been doing that against other teams. They know how to exploit the disadvantage we have of missing Marvin and Mo, by making us do what we don’t want to do (switch on defense).
Gentry is smart. Nash is one of the smartest…
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
6:55 pm
WTF Joe????
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:56 pm
aight.. the shooting was nice.. get Al back in this game..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:56 pm
stop putting it on the floor Z.. kill the bounce..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:57 pm
good one brewing here..
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
6:58 pm
Dead legs, that’s what you get when you don’t have a bench. Joe needs a rest and so does Al but they can’t get it because they don’t have a bench. Rick Sund and the ASG lost this game
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
6:59 pm
time to run some sets..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:01 pm
this is a different Z this year..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:02 pm
just as i praise Z..
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
7:03 pm
Short Arm Zaza bricking layups
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:03 pm
Gentry yellin…
“same play…same play…same play…”
He sees the Hawks collapsing everytime on Chills leaving guys beyond the arc open.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:04 pm
so unselfish..
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
7:05 pm
Joe Johnson…earning that money right
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:05 pm
team basketball thanks to LD
lewis
November 7th, 2010
7:06 pm
im shaking
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
7:06 pm
Joe and Al are the only 2 reasons this team is even close. This will be a heartbreaking loss as Josh Childress is killing the Hawks down the stretch
Sautee
November 7th, 2010
7:06 pm
Yeah, even if they lose, I like the way the ball is moving.
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:07 pm
Ball movement is a thing of beauty…
Defensively, it’s obvious they’re exploiting our lack of a 3.
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:09 pm
Stops are awfully hard for the Hawks to come by right now…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 7th, 2010
7:10 pm
Y’all still think we couldn’t have used Childress?
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:11 pm
What the hell?
Can we grab a damn board????????????
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:11 pm
that would have been big!!! but got the foul
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:11 pm
dont rub it in Najeh
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
7:12 pm
Glad Gentry took JChill out the game b/c he was killing the Hawks..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:12 pm
boy has worked is game..
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:12 pm
J.Smith has definitely worked on that jumper…
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:13 pm
aye!!!!! MAAAAAAAAAAL tried to yam dat thing..
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
7:13 pm
lmfao@crawford
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:13 pm
lmao….crawford tried to put frye on the highlight reel
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:13 pm
LMAO I’ve never seen Crawford try to do that…
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
7:13 pm
please don’t say anymore about Josh and his jumpers
he knocks them down so he can shoot them
JC1 tried to bang on them!
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:13 pm
i remember when make or miss just going up trying someone would get the whole gym up..
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:13 pm
that boy was SERIOUS bout that one
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
7:14 pm
Jamal tried to bring the house down on that dunk attempt….LOL
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:14 pm
Josh with the hustle play..
heart.
welikebaseball2
November 7th, 2010
7:14 pm
Ugh…flashbacks of last season. Switching defense where our big ends up on a quick PG. It’s the same thing EVERY time. Horford’s done okay in holding his own, but it obviously plays into the hands of the Suns who are obviously running the pick-&-roll EVERY time down the floor. This switching defense is killing us!
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
7:15 pm
Watch Jamal choke and they are the same as last year stupid switching defense again
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:15 pm
Joe w/ bron bron numbers..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:16 pm
good contest Mike..
welikebaseball2
November 7th, 2010
7:16 pm
Wow. The Suns are a handful on offense. Geez.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:17 pm
that is a bang bang.. wtf?
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:17 pm
Guys have exerted a lot of energy to get back into this game…
It’s gonna hurt in more ways than one if they can’t come out with a W.
Back to backs suck – especially when you’ve got Orlando on the back end of it.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:17 pm
where was the foul?
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:18 pm
“BAWSE has got it”
-Bob Rathbun
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:18 pm
BAWSE .. no answer for him
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:19 pm
nasty.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:19 pm
wow..
welikebaseball2
November 7th, 2010
7:20 pm
Wow…these Suns have got some shooters! I guess we do too!
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
7:20 pm
man the suns cant miss worth nothing
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
7:20 pm
Lick those fingers Jamal.
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:20 pm
Was just about to say that Crawford’s shot was a stupid look…
But, if it goes in, doesn’t matter.
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
7:22 pm
Why have Bibby in the game to play defense?????
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:22 pm
thats fine.. good d Mike..
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:22 pm
Crawford for a game winning 3?
Freshfromatl AKA Fresh
November 7th, 2010
7:22 pm
Jamal for 3?
Hawks v Suns
November 7th, 2010
7:22 pm
might need a last second 3 in order to beat them, they’re not missing
Geemack
November 7th, 2010
7:23 pm
The Hawks have some of the dumbest defensive assignments I’ve ever seen.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:23 pm
maybe LD trusting in him.. ? i dont know..?
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
7:23 pm
you can see where marvin is miseed…go for the win here hawks wont win in overtime if josh has 5 fouls
lukas
November 7th, 2010
7:23 pm
Bibby on Frye? in the low post? really???
Freshfromatl AKA Fresh
November 7th, 2010
7:23 pm
I see everyone’s thinking the same lol
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:23 pm
Jeff has been getting killed off the dribble too though.. if not off the dribble w/ nifty moves down in the painted area.. so..
welikebaseball2
November 7th, 2010
7:23 pm
There’s that switching defense again! Bibby ends up on Frye?! Seriously?! What happened to all this talk Drew gave about playing better one-on-one defense…about not switching so much?
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:24 pm
Dammmit
Hawks v Suns
November 7th, 2010
7:24 pm
not really a smart play
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:25 pm
The last guy you want to send to the damn line.
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
7:25 pm
out of all people you let nash get the ball
Hawks v Suns
November 7th, 2010
7:25 pm
this was a taxing game, I’m guessing because they played so hard today they won’t able to do so two days in a row … they’ll lose 2 straight games
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:26 pm
Weren’t gonna go 82-0…
But this sux.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:26 pm
think we have another TO as well.. score here.. who knows?
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
7:26 pm
not a bad game at all
we take this L like men
lewis
November 7th, 2010
7:27 pm
yeah good effort im not even that pissed
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:27 pm
prolong the game..
its like being down 10.. and taking the 3 on 3rd down..
Geemack
November 7th, 2010
7:28 pm
The Suns ran the same pick and switch play the entire 2nd half and Atlanta never made an adjustment.
LD need to make sure these guys focus on defense.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:28 pm
steal and a 3
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:28 pm
guess not lmao
welikebaseball2
November 7th, 2010
7:29 pm
Gritty performance by the home team. Only thing I’m concerned about is the defense. Like last year, a quick PG killed us. Like last year, we continue to switch on defense & end up with mismatches.
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:29 pm
Ball game.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:29 pm
well.. they got the onside kick.. lol.
good game Hawks..
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:29 pm
must say though…..Bibby guarding Frye in the post = Mike Woodson philosophical school of defense
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
7:29 pm
im pretty sure if marvin was healthy hawks would have won
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:30 pm
Would’ve been a great sports day had the Hawks pulled this one out to get to 7-0 seeing that the Falcons won as well…
But, 82 games, not gonna win them all.
Melvin
November 7th, 2010
7:31 pm
I’m mad about this loss. Why did LD have Bibby in the game on the cruical defensive possession?
Real Talk
November 7th, 2010
7:31 pm
Ok the Hawks showed a little HEART during the second half which is a slight improvement from last year. Joe earned some of that $ today. They should have shown Heart through out the game than maybe they would have won it. Let’s see can the second half Hawks during today’s game play the Magic like this tomorrow night.
Wabe
November 7th, 2010
7:31 pm
But, I’m wondering what they’ll look like tomorrow…
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:31 pm
didnt realize BAWSE dropped 30.
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
7:32 pm
Steve Nash dominated…that pick and roll was killer because of how many shooters the Suns have…not having Marvin really hurt this game…
Bibby was bombing threes so can’t really be mad…helped us get back in it but ultimately the exploitation of mismatches won out.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:33 pm
That would be Steve Nash, of course. Remember that Woody’s switches worked pretty well on Nash because Josh and Al could contain him on the dribble and make him take challenged jumpers.
Nash’s numbers against the Hawks in two games last season: 9 points, 8.5 assists, 33.3% FG, 0% 3FG, 29 min. His numbers overall: 16.5 points, 11 assists, 51% FG, 43% 3FG, 33 min.
L.D. said the Suns run so many pick-and-rolls the Hawks will get caught in switches whether they want to our not. If it turns out the bigs can’t handle them then he said he would go smaller.
“I don’t want to put them in bad situations,” he said.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 7th, 2010
7:33 pm
The defense down the stretch was just atrocious. Hawks showed a lot of guts to claw back from that 15 point deficit, but you gotta be able to get stops. If they can’t keep Jason Richardson off his spot, how the hell do they expect to do that with Dwyane Wade or LeBron James?
I like the offense, and the ball movement is good enough to where they should be able to hang with anyone theoretically, but the defense has some serious problems right now that are not entirely a result of not having Marvin. A lot of it is just the guards’ inability to apply ball pressure and beat players to their spots.
J.J.M.
November 7th, 2010
7:34 pm
not having marvin was the reason jamal had to guard childress down the stretch and all the switches had bibby on fry
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
7:34 pm
No bench at all. Like I have been saying Zaza is so overrated by you bloggers. Teague and Jamal were the only 2 even worth bringing off the bench. This team has no depth. The only thing I like about this win was that Josh and Al did not even acknowledge Childress. Joe’s punk arse did and I just lost respect for him. The Hawks went 6-0 a couple of years ago and they are no better now. It is sad that the switching defense comes back whenever the guards get tired. No discipline this team sucks arse. 6-2 coming 2morrow with a 25+ point blowout just to make sure you lames get the message that nothing has changed.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 7th, 2010
7:35 pm
The 3-point brickeration in the first half really hurt too. If some of those go in, the Hawks don’t have to climb out of nearly as big of a deficit.
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
7:36 pm
The switch really had to do with the personnel. Everybody knows the suns send 5 three point shooters out on offense.
I think they would have benefit from a hard show by Horford instead of the outright switch but then again the Suns were at their best in knocking down shots today
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:36 pm
Nash hit some tough shots.. was just filthy..
Freshfromatl AKA Fresh
November 7th, 2010
7:37 pm
Damn…Is Marvin Playing tomorrow?
Tyler
November 7th, 2010
7:38 pm
This loss really hurts, not just because of the fact that the Hawks came so close and missed on a shot that could have changed the game, but because the Hawks have to face the best team in the league tomorrow. I really think the issue with the Magic is more mental than anything, but considering we are missing both of our SFs and the magic have a ton of shooters, tomorrow night’s game is going to be the toughest of the season. It’s also really annoying to know that the Suns won this game basically shooting jump shots. The Hawks defense in the second half really wasn’t that bad. If they had played focused from the start, this would have been a win.
On a positive note, you have to give big props to Al Horford. He was a beast again, and his presence and play tonight was the main reason why the Hawks were in the game. Still, even playing with a limited roster having a bad defensive first half where we couldn’t throw it in the ocean from 3-point range, we could have won this game.
Geemack
November 7th, 2010
7:38 pm
lewis
Great effort on offense, but horrible effort on defense.
I expect us to kill teams like PHX…No inside presence, horrible defensive, and rebounding team. We should kill these guys at home with Hawks shooting 56% from the field.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
November 7th, 2010
7:39 pm
The good thing about basketball and baseball is after a loss like this you have a chance to redeem yourself usually the next day or day after.
Time to show ORL we arent a pushover.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:40 pm
i know yall werent expecting to keep the Suns under 80 or something..
Marvin out there keeps you from having to send help on driving wings guarded by 2 guards.. turning potential wide open 3’s into contested 3’s or 2pt fg attempts..
ATL FAN
November 7th, 2010
7:41 pm
truthspitter, how the F*** are you a hawks fan???
ignition
November 7th, 2010
7:42 pm
Not having Marvin or Moe really hurt us this game.. To many shooters, especially Channing Frye causing mismatches down the stretch ..
Tough loss, but I hope they use it as a learning lesson.
One thing fo sure is that while Biddy helped bring us back with the Tres he got us killed Defensively..
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
7:42 pm
@Najeh
The Suns run a different type of offense and is based on shooting threes. When the 4 and 5 can shoot threes it strains the defense. Quite different from the one on one basketball the Heat play.
The Suns do this to everyone…that’s their game…to outscore you and Steve Nash top 5 pg. When the Suns get hot there’s not much you can do except keep up with them which the Hawks did.
Had a chance to win at the end…missed the shot missed the rebound. That’s how it is sometimes.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:42 pm
but of course he’s not the answer to our defensive deficiencies.. but against a versatile team like PHX, who play unorthodox with bigs hanging around the 3pt line, we have the luxury of being able to adjust with our versatility ..
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:44 pm
Yo Daddy..
agreed.. bron and wade not really the catch and shoot type anyway..
Artie
November 7th, 2010
7:44 pm
Figures…first good team the Hawks have played!!!!!
ignition
November 7th, 2010
7:44 pm
Our guards have got to take the challenge of guarding defensively serious.. Al & Josh have to cover too much ground on the floor attempting to make up for the defensive lapses …
Reggie
November 7th, 2010
7:45 pm
Ok i have been very happy with Larry Drew until this game…why keep switching Al on Nash…it wasn’t working at all and why were Bibby and Jamal on the court when the Suns had the ball and 26 secs to play? We had 2 timeouts so we could have gone bigger and called a timeout if there was a rebound. Like i said i was very happy until Mike Woodson 2.0 somehow made his way to the sideline tonight…anyway we gotta regroup and get ready to play our masters tomorrow night…LETS GO HAWKS!!
YoDaddy
November 7th, 2010
7:46 pm
Not only that we were 2 man down on the wing….Hawks played pretty well in my opinion
If Marvin was healthy he would have been in down the stretch essentially eliminating the mismatch and sliding Crawford to the point.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:50 pm
“tonight was an example of how big we needed a Marvin or Mo”
Larry Drew
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:52 pm
i bet you would’ve seen some Marvin guarding PF or even 2 guard position tonight..
Ray
November 7th, 2010
7:54 pm
You know what I was going to be the first to scream hawks suck during that 1st half, and when they were down by 18, but you know this team looks like they had more heart.
Plus this game could have went either way it’s a tough loss, but at least they did compete till the very end. Now the only problem is it’s a back to back game with Orlando of all people tomorrow.
If they don’t win I’d understand why, and if they do happen to win it says more about Orlando then it does for us.
bigdave
November 7th, 2010
7:54 pm
failure to secure key offensive rebs hurt ..
Najeh Davenpoop
November 7th, 2010
7:56 pm
“The Suns run a different type of offense and is based on shooting threes. When the 4 and 5 can shoot threes it strains the defense. Quite different from the one on one basketball the Heat play.”
That’s not what I was talking about. J-Rich is similar to LeBron and Wade in that he likes shooting from certain spots on the floor. Of course, Wade and LeBron dribble to their spot themselves and shoot it whereas J-Rich tends to catch and shoot a lot (at least he did in this game), but still, the focus of the defense should be to deny them the ability to get to that spot. The Hawks consistently failed at this today against J-Rich, and they consistently fail at that against LeBron and Wade when those guys beat Atlanta.
Down the stretch, J-Rich made at least three shots from almost the exact same spot on the floor, and every time the Hawks made no attempt to stop him from getting to that spot. These are the kind of defensive plays that need to be made in crunch time. As good as the Hawks’ offense was, they only needed one or two stops down the stretch to pull out this win, and they were unable to make it happen. Yes, missing Marvin hurt, but the perimeter defense was bad with or without him.
Ramon
November 7th, 2010
7:58 pm
I am proud of the Hawks. I didn’t see the game. But to know the game were that close, and how deep Phoenix went on their bench, and still barely won, it was wonderful. This team is headed in the right direction I believe. And when we’re at full strength, its going to be hard for any one to compete with them.
RA
November 7th, 2010
8:00 pm
Okay, first off, the Hawks were going to lose sooner or later! But they lost this game for all the wrong reasons. A look at the final score tells the whole story. The Hawks played the Suns game, and the Suns beat them at it, bottomline. All Atlanta had to do to win was pound them inside and fight over screens instead of switching which didn’t work last year, the year before… Drew is a fairly smart fella. The lesson I hope he takes out of all this is that if the Hawks are going to be an elite team, and I believe they can be, they’re going to have to learn to impose their will on teams that have great players.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 7th, 2010
8:01 pm
When you shoot 54% from the field, you shouldn’t lose to anyone.
ignition
November 7th, 2010
8:08 pm
I see that Offensively we are straight as 6 o’clock.. It our defense that needs work.. I wasn’t happy with the strategy tonight but with our guards Jamal & Biddy being so defensivly challenged it hurts..
Teague should be an option, I know its sounds crazy but we may have to take out one of our top scoring threats down the stretch to become more defensive minded.. ie Rondo.. It’s a risk..
doc
November 7th, 2010
8:19 pm
LD ….. or chills might have helped, good numbers with a splint on his hand.
sorry fans booing him, sad really like he was given a real chance to be here.
JeJe
November 7th, 2010
8:20 pm
This team plays no defense at all. Jesus christ
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
8:22 pm
Well guys I basically watched the Hawks these first 7 games and saw some really disturbing things.The most disturbing thing is the fact that they are a jump shooting team you have to now add Horford and Smoove as people who don’t go inside either. Next, Drew and his lack of defensive attention is just annoying. He started off time he got the job with the talk of offense and it sure shows because the Hawks are not playing any defense at all. Lastly, the bench is very weak when you play good teams.
JeJe
November 7th, 2010
8:38 pm
LD coached like Woody tonight
Absolutely no adjustments on this Horford on Nash BS.
How the hell do u let Nash do that 5 times or however many in a row?
Astro Joe
November 7th, 2010
8:57 pm
When you shoot 54% from the field, you shouldn’t lose to anyone.
You should when the other team shoots 56% from the field including almost 48% from 3. Nice comeback but they clearly needed Marvin or Mo, especially toward the end. I’m not sure they had many other choices other than try to win in a shoot-out.
rusty
November 7th, 2010
9:19 pm
why the hell did he leave bibby in the game when he couldnt keep up with nash
cp
November 7th, 2010
9:25 pm
Tough L today. I know Bibby helped them get back in the game with the 3’s but I thought LD pulled Teague too quickly. He was looking comfortable out there and was in a nice rhythm.. Hopefully they are ready for Orlando. The perimeter defense is still atrocious
hawks_4_life
November 7th, 2010
9:31 pm
Love my short handed hawks, feel like these injuries set us up for dead.
darrell starks
November 7th, 2010
9:53 pm
LD for the first time got away from what made the hawks 6 and 0 and that was the rotation tonight was like the woody of old.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
O'Brien
November 7th, 2010
9:55 pm
MC,
Where is the game summary?
I didnt see the game, but it looks like the BAWSE, Josh and JJ had a good game.
I didnt expect us to go 82-0, and we did not go quietly. But this is a game we badly needed to win.
Josh Smith played 42 minutes, Al played 42 minutes, and JJ played 44 minutes.
We dont have Mo, and we might not have Marvin, but we play Orlando tomorrow in Orlando.
We will be tired, and short handed. That is a tough combination against Orlando.
darrell starks
November 7th, 2010
10:00 pm
Collins should have played more min, 2 provide a defensive present in the middle, but for some reason LD got away from that 2 run up and down the court with the suns and it turn out 2 be a bad move from LD.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
November 7th, 2010
10:02 pm
Against the magic if LD don’t match collins up with superman it’s going 2 be a long night for the hawks.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
truthspitter
November 7th, 2010
10:10 pm
Hawks 85
Magic 102
I have already seen it so there is know need to worry your brains with 2morrow’s outcome. Hawks need some better defenders, bottom line.
HawkEye
November 7th, 2010
10:22 pm
Tough loss to swallow tonight, but tommorow is another day. Great effort given even though we were short handed, played lethargic in the first half, and at one point were down by 18 points. With that being said, I am concerned about the perimeter defense.Not all that mad though. Suns took alot of jump shots and made them, but alot of them were wide open shots. If we can’t find a way to close out on shooters and apply more pressure on the ball, Hawks will continue to struggle on defense especially against the better teams in the NBA.
Ultimately, a loss is a loss. Can’t win em all so you take what you can from this one and start preparing for Orlando tommorow. I’m predicting a much better performance against Orlando than what we have displayed in the past, despite being on the tail end of a back-to-back, being short handed, and being on the road. There are no moral victories at this point for this team but a close 48 minute effort (even in a loss) would do wonders for this Hawks team.