Atlanta Hawks at Cavaliers: Larry Drew’s closing case

ClevelandLarry Drew has favored a fourth-quarter lineup with Bibby at point guard, Jamal at shooting guard and J.J. at small forward along with Josh and Al. (The exception was the opener at Memphis, when the Hawks had a makehshift crew finish the blowout victory).

A lineup that includes both Bibby and Jamal can’t be considered one with a focus on defense and rebounding, two areas where L.D. says he’s looking for more from the Hawks. And when I asked L.D. why he favors that lineup late in games, he didn’t talk about defense.

“Jamal is a shot maker,” he said. “Bibby is a shot maker. You know teams are going to double-team Joe so you’ve got to have shot makers out there with him.”

But can the Hawks get enough defense and rebounding out of that group?

“In the scheme of things, I think we can,” L.D. said. “With Joe playing some three, I’m confident with his D against threes. Jamal at the two, I am trying to get him to be more conscience about rebounding. Not necessarily going in there and jumping over guys to get rebounds. I want him to be conscience about getting his body on guys. Our ‘bigs’ know what their jobs are. The defense doesn’t have to come from individuals shutting people down, it has to be a team thing.”

Last season the Bibby-Jamal-Joe-Smoove-Al lineup was the second-most used alignment by Atlanta. It led the team in simple plus-minus. The lineup was second to the starting unit in adjusted plus-minus but significantly less efficient defensively and with a lower defensive rebounding rate.

L.D. repeated a constant theme before the game tonight when he said: “We can’t try to be a team that just outscores people. The teams that re good teams do it with defense. If we want to be mentioned in the same breath as some of these teams then we have to defend better, rebound better.”

The Bibby-Jamal-Joe alignment certainly can score with the best of them. But if L.D. sticks with that lineup to finish game, it’s another example of how he must get more from some players who haven’t proven they are suited to do what he’s asking.

Notes

Hawks radio voice Steve Holman will call his 1,800th consecutive game for the team tonight (97.9 FM). He’s worked every game for the past 25 years but considers his streak to have started when John Sterling left to do Yankees broadcasts in March of 1989 and Holman started doing Hawks games solo.

“I’m proud of it,” Holman said. “I’ve been able to stay healthy and they’ve let me continue to do it all these years. I look forward to every game like it’s my first night, and I really mean that.” . . ,

Teague had some kind of eye infection today that caused redness and itching. He doesn’t know what it was but he got some drops before the game and said it immediately felt better. . . .

Antawn Jamison (knee) is out for the Cavs. . . .

New Cavs coach Byron Scott on the learning curve for his team: “There are only a handful of guys who understand what we are doing on the offensive end.” Scott said he views reserve “Boobie” Gibson, who leads the Cavs in scoring, as “a little bit like Crawford with Atlanta.”

MC

243 comments Add your comment

northcyde

November 2nd, 2010
6:55 pm

Smh . . . looks like Woody 2.0 has emerged

Ree Roe

November 2nd, 2010
6:57 pm

Let’s get to 4-0 tonight Hawks

-REEspect Roe!!!

Dept. Of Unintended Irony

November 2nd, 2010
7:00 pm

“I want him to be conscience about getting his body on guys. ”

Somebody’s guilty.

truthspitter

November 2nd, 2010
7:01 pm

I think this is the 1st loss by the Hawks even though it should be a win.

northcyde

November 2nd, 2010
7:08 pm

And that’s really a red flag against Marvin. If he were a “shot maker”, you’d definitely want him out on the floor in place of Jamal or Bibby.

So we’ve seen the emergence of ISO Joe in the 4th . . now a set lineup of Bibby – Jamal in the backcourt to close games.

You know what’s next?

The SWITCHING DEFENSE

We’ll have to go to it if Drew is going to finish games with those two in the backcourt.

LOL @ Jamison being out. The Hawks catching all kinds of breaks via injuries to other players already. Oh well. That’ll just increase our chances a little to win the game.

All road wins are precious.

northcyde

November 2nd, 2010
7:11 pm

Who knows though. JJ is averaging 9 FTs a game, after acting like he was scared of contact the previous 5 years . . . so maybe Drew can get Jamal to rebound ( something he has never done ). Jamal rebounds like Salim used to.

Brandon

November 2nd, 2010
7:12 pm

Is anyone else who has League Pass Broadband having an issue with the availability of the game?

heartofdarkness

November 2nd, 2010
7:12 pm

Your analysis of the preferred 4th Q team is spot on. I would be concerned about the guards helping out the frontline by consistently getting a body on opponents crashing the boards, which is the only way that five will rebound with the better NBA teams. Perhaps if this group was fresh at the beginning of the final quarter, implying the bench played well enough to expand their minutes, the quickness of the Hawks might allow them to be effective consistently. But the thought of that group playing against the Lakers late brings chills to the spine.

Sautee

November 2nd, 2010
7:12 pm

I wonder who Flopzilla will guard?

J.J.M.

November 2nd, 2010
7:15 pm

smh the hawks suck they just throw up any kind of shot

terrell

November 2nd, 2010
7:22 pm

Looks like 3 out of 4 good games for Marvin. Not bad.

Hawk n the Ham

November 2nd, 2010
7:25 pm

Tonight’s shots are brought to you by Marv-O

Ree Roe

November 2nd, 2010
7:31 pm

Hawks look great so far. Let’s keep it going guys

-REErun of Roe!!

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

November 2nd, 2010
7:35 pm

Powell seems to have nice touch

terrell

November 2nd, 2010
7:37 pm

40 pts in the 1st qtr? Wow!

northcyde

November 2nd, 2010
7:41 pm

Marvin . . LOL . . can you at least play like this twice a week?

Melvin

November 2nd, 2010
7:45 pm

Keep shooting them Josh….lol

Sautee

November 2nd, 2010
7:45 pm

Who is this team and what did they do with our Hawks?

Rev in Tampa

November 2nd, 2010
7:46 pm

All you people who spent hours earlier today hating on Marvin are looking pretty foolish right now!

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm

COSIGN Terrell – great! League pass just kicked in at the end of the quarter – i see Marvin is back on and Zaza aswell.

lukas

November 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm

Smoove is making jump shots!! am i dreaming?

Sautee

November 2nd, 2010
7:48 pm

northcyde,

Yeah Jamal rebounds like Salim, LOL.

Too bad he’s like 5-6 inches TALLER! ;-)

Hawks Forever

November 2nd, 2010
7:48 pm

We need to resign jamal crawford

Najeh Davenpoop

November 2nd, 2010
7:50 pm

Now my comments are just disappearing entirely instead of saying they are in moderation. Hmm…

i_am_soulstar

November 2nd, 2010
7:50 pm

Keep it going birds. Gotta carry this over to the 2nd half.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

November 2nd, 2010
7:50 pm

Ahem Good Rev in Tampa – you said that Marvin was the weakest link in the last blog too.

SWAT Native

November 2nd, 2010
7:50 pm

I missed the start of the game. I wonder if the Cavs were clowning and posing for pictures like they did when that guy was playing there?

Melvin

November 2nd, 2010
7:51 pm

I’m glad to see truthspitter go on record with his prediction for tonight game…

i_am_soulstar

November 2nd, 2010
7:51 pm

They’ve fouled Jeff Teague numerous times on drives with no calls. That has to be pissing somebody off other than me.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 2nd, 2010
7:51 pm

I don’t like seeing Josh take pull up jumpers in transition any more than y’all do, but here is a fact — he has taken steps to improve his game every season, and for all we know this is the improvement he has made for this season. That transition jumper wasn’t a fluke based on what he has done so far — he has been much more reliable as a jump shooter so far this season. If he can make those at a respectable rate, I have no problem with him taking them every now and then to keep the defense honest.

truthspitter

November 2nd, 2010
7:53 pm

Will be very disappointed if they don’t win this one by double figures. On the other hand, Leon Powe may be allowed to travel the Cavs back into the game

Najeh Davenpoop

November 2nd, 2010
7:54 pm

Wow Marvin, nice pass.

Melvin

November 2nd, 2010
7:55 pm

Marvin is swissing and dishing tonight….

Najeh Davenpoop

November 2nd, 2010
7:55 pm

16 dimes on 20 made baskets so far. That is excellent.

Ree Roe

November 2nd, 2010
7:56 pm

Blog monster ate my comments…The gist of it was that the Hawks need to put CLE away, they had a chance, but now look like they’re gonna at least let CLE keep it competitive.

-REEsurgent Roe!!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 2nd, 2010
7:56 pm

Joe is getting so many more looks within 5 feet of the rim this season.

Rev in Tampa

November 2nd, 2010
7:56 pm

No. I was being sarcastic toward all those who were obcessing on how badly Marvin was harming the undefeated Hawks.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 2nd, 2010
7:57 pm

I haven’t seen a Cavs home game this quiet since 2002.

Melvin

November 2nd, 2010
7:57 pm

Marvin is putting on a show in this 1st half…LOL

i_am_soulstar

November 2nd, 2010
7:59 pm

Man, it’s like the Cavs aren’t even trying

O'Brien

November 2nd, 2010
7:59 pm

Marvin looks so much better, especially since he doesnt have to guard LeBron.

I think Marvin was looking forward to a LeBron-less Cavs team.

Marvin,

Please, can we get this every other game?

Melvin

November 2nd, 2010
7:59 pm

Najeh,

I havent heard the Cavs broadcast team this humble since 2002…lol.. M.L. Carr don’t know what to say now…

Hawks Forever

November 2nd, 2010
8:00 pm

The hawks will start out 6-0

truthspitter

November 2nd, 2010
8:01 pm

Anyone noticed that they have only scored 14 pts since the 1st quarter?

Wonder

November 2nd, 2010
8:02 pm

J.J Hickson is trying to be like Lebron, get down in the blocks and play your natural position

Sautee

November 2nd, 2010
8:03 pm

Rev,

Some would call it an obession (very old inside joke).

i_am_soulstar

November 2nd, 2010
8:04 pm

Wow, didn’t know we were 1st in FT %. Still hella early, but I can dig it.

Melvin

November 2nd, 2010
8:05 pm

Hawks has falling in love with the jumpshots this quarter…

J.J.M.

November 2nd, 2010
8:07 pm

I turn to cnn for 1 minute and the cavs have come back smh

Wonder

November 2nd, 2010
8:07 pm

Can somebody guard Hickson