Atlanta Hawks: Hawks at Sixers and Al Horford’s big contract weekend

So with three days until the deadline, what’s going to happen with Al’s contracts extension? It apparently epends on where you read it.

Last week, ESPN.com’s Marc Stein reported a deal was “probable” despite “persistent chatter in recent days that Horford and the Hawks have made little recent progress in negotiations.” I’m guessing the “persistent chatter” might have something to do with Horford himself saying a couple weeks ago there had been no movement. That really wasn’t such a big deal since there was plenty of time left for a deal (the bigger deal would have been if the sides weren’t talking) but for some reason that note caused a bit of a stir.

A few days ago NBA.com’s David Aldridge reported it was 50-50 the Hawks and Horford would reach an agreement. But yesterday CBSSports.com’s Ken Berger called the chances of a Horford extension “a long shot at best.”

Berger also reported “a person familiar with the discussions told CBSSports.com that talks are scheduled this week between Hawks management and Horford’s agent, Arn Tellem.” Well, I think Horford qualifies as a person familiar with the discussions, and he said the other day the Hawks and Tellem are meeting this weekend.

Anyway, Horford has said all along he’s not sure what’s going to happen but would like an extension. He reiterated that stance today.

“I am positive and hopeful that we can get something done,” he said. “I love being here and I hope that I can stay here for a long time.”

Agents squabble over Al

More recent “chatter” (indirectly) regarding Horford, though I’m not sure if it’s persistent: Sam Amick reports at FanHouse that agent Aaron Goodwin plans to file a complaint against Tellem.

Goodwin alleges Tellem (who also reps J.J.) poached Horford as a client just as Al was headed to possible negotiations on the extension. Goodwin told Amick there were some “improprieties” in how Tellem came to represent Horford but did not elaborate.

Horford said he terminated his contract with Goodin in May and hired Tellem in late June. The first he heard about Goodwin’s beef was through Amick’s story.

“I don’t understand what’s happening with that,” Horford said. “I talked to a few [agents] before I made the decision, so it wasn’t like I was for sure going with Arn. I haven’t talked to Aaron. We had a good relationship; I just made a business decision. So you can say I was caught off guard by this whole thing.”

Amick noted the Players Association has a code of ethics that addresses client poaching “but regulation has never been realistic because of the immense detective work that’s almost always necessary to come to an accurate ruling.” I don’t think this stuff rates with fans but obviously it’s a big deal among agents.

Mo adjustments

With Mo back in Atlanta tending to his surgically-repaired knee, L.D. basically has to find a backup for Marvin when he doesn’t have one.

“It puts us in a little bit of a dilemma,” L.D. said today. “We are probably going to have to play Joe more at three. Occasionally we are going to have to slide Josh down there. We can’t wear Marvin out at that spot. We will probably end up playing Joe more at three than anything else.”

Asked if all the shuffling might mean more time for JC2, L.D. said: “I’m not sure.”

Etan and Pape were the inactive guys at Memphis. Pape isn’t on the trip (and hasn’t practiced yet anyway) so Etan will dress out tonight.

Speaking of Etan, it’s worth checking out his blog post at HoopsHype.com. The Hawks knew they were getting an outspoken player when they signed him and this is the first taste of what that means.

Philly’s young guns

The Hawks might see Sixers youngsters Evan Turner and Jrue Holliday on the court together. The Philly Inquirer’s Mario Aguirre reports that tandem showed some promise in the fourth quarter against Miami Wednesday after Holliday struggled at the start.

MC

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westurd

October 29th, 2010
5:27 pm

westurd

October 29th, 2010
5:27 pm

Only losers call first anyway!

westurd

October 29th, 2010
5:28 pm

i_am_soulstar

October 29th, 2010
5:36 pm

Bibby almost always has good games against Philly. Don’t know what it is. Hope he keeps the trend going.

The Truth

October 29th, 2010
5:37 pm

I guess I’m not digressing after all:

“Speaking of Etan, it’s worth checking out his blog post at HoopsHype.com. The Hawks knew they were getting an outspoken player when they signed him and this is the first taste of what that means.”

From the previous blog:

Questions from Etan Thomas:

“Since living in Georgia this season I’ve probably seen more confederate flags than I had my entire life. Do people really still fly that symbol of slavery, evil and hate now in 2010?

Sad but true Etan, I’m told some Georgian embrace the confederate symbol as part of their heritage. Some southerners even claim that they see the flag as merely a symbol of southern culture without any political or racial connotation. Unfortunately, these folks have either been misguided or brain washed over the years. I suppose it’s a convenient way for making peace with a very sad period in our American history. But linking an evil supremacy ideology to an entire bloodline is a flat-out bone face lie and perhaps an insult to others who don’t believe in this cryptic form of hate. With that twisted logic, the Nazis’ flag, the swastika would represent the entire German heritage. The only groups that wear that symbol as a badge of honor these days are extremist groups such as the neo-Naz similar to our home grown kkk and their use of the confederate symbol. Yes, there is a difference between ideology and family heritage. By definition, an ideology is a set of ideas that constitutes one’s goals, expectations, and actions. So as an analogy, if my father or grandfather pursues a life of crime and prefers robbing banks and killing innocent people does not mean I automatically must do the same or condone his actions.

Sorry blog people, I digressed.

Read more: http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/thomas/2010/10/28/my-25-questions-to-begin-the-season/#ixzz13mKQo0N2

mountain_jim

October 29th, 2010
5:53 pm

NBA League Pass is still in Free Preview so I get to see another Hawks game! (I don’t have viewing time to get money’s worth on buying that package…(

Freshfromatl

October 29th, 2010
6:03 pm

Oh wow…I starting to like this Etan guy…

4. With the NBA at one of its highest points ever, doing better worldwide than ever before and with the ability to tread water in the wake of the worse economic environment since the Depression, wouldn’t this be the absolute worst time for a lockout?

13. Why wasn’t Josh Smith an All-Star last year? And how is Joe Johnson still so underrated? Last season, he posted averages of 21, 5 and 5 on a team that won 53 games.

14. Why does the media keep trying to vilify Jamal Crawford for wanting an extension? Don’t they understand the nature of the business is to obtain job security? And where is it documented that he told the team “Pay me or trade me?” Or is that something they made up?

18. Are you officially old when you don’t know any of the slang that your teamates are using? Or you think how they dress looks absolutely horrible? (Skinny jeans will always be terrible to me). This happened to me a lot while playing with the Oklahoma City Thunder last year, but to my defense Oklahoma City was the youngest team in the League.

22. Why isn’t Dominique Wilkins (9-time All-Star) one of the Top 50 players?

25. Last summer, there was a huge controversy over the building of a mosque near Ground Zero. It was viewed by some as a “slap in the face”, “disrespectful” or “celebrating an atrocity.” But here in Georgia they have something called Stone Mountain where they actually have a light show and a big Confederacy party. Let me put this into perspective… Stone Mountain has three figures of the Confederate States carved there. People who were not only fighting for slavery but against everything that America has become today. Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis. Now, Stone Mountain was where the second KKK was formed in 1915, according to Wikipedia. In fact, the Klan had perpetual rights to hold celebrations, lynchings, cross burnings and other sick common practices. Why isn’t there any uproar about this and why isn’t this viewed as “a slap in the face”, “disrespectful” or “celebrating an atrocity?”

MC, was #14 a shot at you? Lol.

Freshfromatl

October 29th, 2010
6:06 pm

MC, was #14 a shot at you? Lol.

Guess I’ll be reading Etan’s blog from now on as well…

Section 303

October 29th, 2010
6:07 pm

Michael, thanks for posting Etan’s blog. I had never read it before. I like people who are not afraid to say/write the way they feel. Though, he really seems to like to cut on the state of Georgia (which really is not that hard).

I think the Hawks should move Joe to the 3, when needed. But, let Jordan Crawford get a little bit of time. I am really curious about that kid. Not sure what I think of him, yet.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 29th, 2010
6:16 pm

Jordan is no mystery. The kid is a high volume shooter, heck he took a jump-shot
47 feet from the basket, to his credit there was 7 seconds on the shot clock when he began his drive. Maybe he need glasses and didn’t see there was 5 seconds left to shoot. He should have passed the ball maybe?

He did have 8 assists in one pre-season game, while playing some point.
Bottom line is he is a scorer not a shooter!

drmaryb (*_*)

October 29th, 2010
6:18 pm

Looks like Horford may have to go to was with what he’s got:

Etan, Collins and No Contract Extension!

Michael Cunningham

October 29th, 2010
6:19 pm

@Freshfromatl: “MC, was #14 a shot at you? Lol.”

ha . . . not me in particular, i don’t think, but my kind. word is Ethan doesn’t really trust us reporter types.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 29th, 2010
6:22 pm

* go to WAR with what he’s got:

drmaryb (*_*)

October 29th, 2010
6:26 pm

LOL! Listening to 790 The Zone, Pollack and Bell just reported:

Dwight said he’s gonna decapitate the Heat if they come flying in the paint tonight. We can guess who the targets are. Magic making a statement tonight.

I don’t think the 2nd night of a back-to-back will be an issue there.

Roland

October 29th, 2010
6:33 pm

I really hope that the Hawks get Horford’s extension done by the end of this weekend. The team doesn’t need anymore drama, and having to worry about what would happen if Horford becomes a restricted free agent is an unnecessary discussion. The Hawks have no business gambling with a key piece of their team. This contract extension should have been taken care of immediately. We’re not talking about a role player hear, we’re talking about one of the team captains, and, arguably, the heart and soul of the team.

Roland

October 29th, 2010
6:34 pm

I meant to say *distraction*, not “discussion”, above.

truthspitter

October 29th, 2010
6:40 pm

I can feel a loss coming on

Hmmm

October 29th, 2010
6:46 pm

i_am_soulstar,

Henry Bibby used to be an asstant Coach for Philly under Mo Cheeks. Now Henry is with guess who? The Grizzlies LOL. I don’t know if we’ll see a repat performance from wedneday night. Bibby likes to stick it to any team his dad is coaching lol.

Hmmm

October 29th, 2010
6:46 pm

drmaryb (*_*)

October 29th, 2010
6:51 pm

Hmmmm …

Yeah, I think Bibby was reared by a single parent, his Moms.
I don’t think his dad was around for Mike, they don’t seem very close at all.

I got my wish, Coach Drew is “miked-up” tonight, so we get to hear is huddle.
My favorite huddle coach is Doc Rivers! He makes me want to jump inside the TV and play too.

RealSquawk

October 29th, 2010
6:52 pm

Dampier was still available? Come on

Hmmm

October 29th, 2010
7:02 pm

drmaryb (*_*),

Yeah his dad was away a lot and eventually Henry and Bibby’s mom divorced. I read in an article some time ago that they have since made amends and sometimes hang out if they are in the same city befor a game.

LD Mic’d up would be great! I’ll take it over a woody sound bite any day!

drmaryb (*_*)

October 29th, 2010
7:06 pm

FATHER-SON (NOT) BONDING : MIKE AND HENRY BIBBY AVOID ALL TALK …

“My father is not part of my life,” Mike Bibby said. …. He only wanted to talk about the game with Arizona, not his personal life. …
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FATHER-SON+(NOT)+BONDING+%3A+MIKE+ AND+HENRY+BIBBY+AVOID+ALL+TALK+ABOUT…-a0838519…

truthspitter

October 29th, 2010
7:06 pm

Philly is a different beast than Memphis. Rudy Gay, Sam Young, and Conley were basically the only attackers of the rim that Memphis had. Philly has a whole team of attackers of the rim. Iggy, Turner, Young, Holiday, Williams. Gonna be hard for Josh to protect the rim against the consistent onslaught considering Philly can’t shoot. This does not look good but that’s why you play the games.

J.J.M.

October 29th, 2010
7:07 pm

anybody have a link fot the game?

drmaryb (*_*)

October 29th, 2010
7:09 pm

Whodini – Poof!

Hmmm … Yeah that’s too bad, especially when you both love the game and spend your whole life learning:

Team
Together

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

October 29th, 2010
7:10 pm

LET”S GET IT ON!!!!

@ freshfromatl – I like an athlete not afraid to have an opinion.

lewis

October 29th, 2010
7:15 pm

bibby letting jrue get whatever

truthspitter

October 29th, 2010
7:15 pm

Just what I thought. No energy and Josh taking jump shots, not even able to dominate Elton Brand, what a joke.

J.J.M.

October 29th, 2010
7:17 pm

wow they getting killed already

J.J.M.

October 29th, 2010
7:21 pm

wtf is josh doing

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

October 29th, 2010
7:22 pm

so I just get in, turn on the game, and the first thing I see is Josh Smith firing a 3???????????

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

October 29th, 2010
7:22 pm

smoove and his idiotic threes – smh

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

October 29th, 2010
7:23 pm

midrange – midrange, lol

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

October 29th, 2010
7:23 pm

LMFAO@Hawes’ post move then the brick

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

October 29th, 2010
7:24 pm

Horford is heating up – I like it .

terrell

October 29th, 2010
7:25 pm

Show them haters what your’re made of Big Al.

ATL FAN

October 29th, 2010
7:25 pm

WOW, resign Horford NOW!!!

J.J.M.

October 29th, 2010
7:27 pm

lmao@joe johnson wow

i_am_soulstar

October 29th, 2010
7:27 pm

Thanks for the factoid Hmmm.

Al Horford’s getting it in tonight. Spectacular. Now if Josh would just drive the ball…

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)

October 29th, 2010
7:30 pm

Philly Lane = Walmart Super Center

ATL FAN

October 29th, 2010
7:30 pm

Just keep trading shots

jtshoopsblog

October 29th, 2010
7:30 pm

Evans out means more minutes for Marvin. either that or the hawk may go small using the two Crawfords off the bench and putting JJ at the 3. Signing Al will be big for the Hawks, but he is not a Center. He`s better suited at the PF spot with Josh Smith at the 3.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

October 29th, 2010
7:31 pm

Crawford the Matador -

@ I am soulstar, maybe we should hypnotize him like on that old 70’s movie “Let’s Do It Again”

J.J.M.

October 29th, 2010
7:31 pm

ATL FAN

October 29th, 2010
7:31 pm

resign Horford NOW!!!

ATL FAN

October 29th, 2010
7:34 pm

Melvin

October 29th, 2010
7:38 pm

Hmmm, Horford 13pts/4rebs and Jamal 4ast all in the 1st qtr…. Just think, they were two of the guys that caught most of venom on the blog after the Memphis game….SMH, its all season….

truthspitter

October 29th, 2010
7:38 pm

Seriously defense is an afterthought with this team. When Smoove is not in the game there is really no protection of the rim.

deb1820

October 29th, 2010
7:39 pm

JJM did you find a link to the game?