Atlanta Hawks: Hawks at Sixers and Al Horford’s big contract weekend
So with three days until the deadline, what’s going to happen with Al’s contracts extension? It apparently epends on where you read it.
Last week, ESPN.com’s Marc Stein reported a deal was “probable” despite “persistent chatter in recent days that Horford and the Hawks have made little recent progress in negotiations.” I’m guessing the “persistent chatter” might have something to do with Horford himself saying a couple weeks ago there had been no movement. That really wasn’t such a big deal since there was plenty of time left for a deal (the bigger deal would have been if the sides weren’t talking) but for some reason that note caused a bit of a stir.
A few days ago NBA.com’s David Aldridge reported it was 50-50 the Hawks and Horford would reach an agreement. But yesterday CBSSports.com’s Ken Berger called the chances of a Horford extension “a long shot at best.”
Berger also reported “a person familiar with the discussions told CBSSports.com that talks are scheduled this week between Hawks management and Horford’s agent, Arn Tellem.” Well, I think Horford qualifies as a person familiar with the discussions, and he said the other day the Hawks and Tellem are meeting this weekend.
Anyway, Horford has said all along he’s not sure what’s going to happen but would like an extension. He reiterated that stance today.
“I am positive and hopeful that we can get something done,” he said. “I love being here and I hope that I can stay here for a long time.”
Agents squabble over Al
More recent “chatter” (indirectly) regarding Horford, though I’m not sure if it’s persistent: Sam Amick reports at FanHouse that agent Aaron Goodwin plans to file a complaint against Tellem.
Goodwin alleges Tellem (who also reps J.J.) poached Horford as a client just as Al was headed to possible negotiations on the extension. Goodwin told Amick there were some “improprieties” in how Tellem came to represent Horford but did not elaborate.
Horford said he terminated his contract with Goodin in May and hired Tellem in late June. The first he heard about Goodwin’s beef was through Amick’s story.
“I don’t understand what’s happening with that,” Horford said. “I talked to a few [agents] before I made the decision, so it wasn’t like I was for sure going with Arn. I haven’t talked to Aaron. We had a good relationship; I just made a business decision. So you can say I was caught off guard by this whole thing.”
Amick noted the Players Association has a code of ethics that addresses client poaching “but regulation has never been realistic because of the immense detective work that’s almost always necessary to come to an accurate ruling.” I don’t think this stuff rates with fans but obviously it’s a big deal among agents.
Mo adjustments
With Mo back in Atlanta tending to his surgically-repaired knee, L.D. basically has to find a backup for Marvin when he doesn’t have one.
“It puts us in a little bit of a dilemma,” L.D. said today. “We are probably going to have to play Joe more at three. Occasionally we are going to have to slide Josh down there. We can’t wear Marvin out at that spot. We will probably end up playing Joe more at three than anything else.”
Asked if all the shuffling might mean more time for JC2, L.D. said: “I’m not sure.”
Etan and Pape were the inactive guys at Memphis. Pape isn’t on the trip (and hasn’t practiced yet anyway) so Etan will dress out tonight.
Speaking of Etan, it’s worth checking out his blog post at HoopsHype.com. The Hawks knew they were getting an outspoken player when they signed him and this is the first taste of what that means.
Philly’s young guns
The Hawks might see Sixers youngsters Evan Turner and Jrue Holliday on the court together. The Philly Inquirer’s Mario Aguirre reports that tandem showed some promise in the fourth quarter against Miami Wednesday after Holliday struggled at the start.
MC
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westurd
October 29th, 2010
5:27 pm
Word?
westurd
October 29th, 2010
5:27 pm
Only losers call first anyway!
westurd
October 29th, 2010
5:28 pm
FIRST!
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
5:36 pm
Bibby almost always has good games against Philly. Don’t know what it is. Hope he keeps the trend going.
The Truth
October 29th, 2010
5:37 pm
I guess I’m not digressing after all:
“Speaking of Etan, it’s worth checking out his blog post at HoopsHype.com. The Hawks knew they were getting an outspoken player when they signed him and this is the first taste of what that means.”
From the previous blog:
Questions from Etan Thomas:
“Since living in Georgia this season I’ve probably seen more confederate flags than I had my entire life. Do people really still fly that symbol of slavery, evil and hate now in 2010?
Sad but true Etan, I’m told some Georgian embrace the confederate symbol as part of their heritage. Some southerners even claim that they see the flag as merely a symbol of southern culture without any political or racial connotation. Unfortunately, these folks have either been misguided or brain washed over the years. I suppose it’s a convenient way for making peace with a very sad period in our American history. But linking an evil supremacy ideology to an entire bloodline is a flat-out bone face lie and perhaps an insult to others who don’t believe in this cryptic form of hate. With that twisted logic, the Nazis’ flag, the swastika would represent the entire German heritage. The only groups that wear that symbol as a badge of honor these days are extremist groups such as the neo-Naz similar to our home grown kkk and their use of the confederate symbol. Yes, there is a difference between ideology and family heritage. By definition, an ideology is a set of ideas that constitutes one’s goals, expectations, and actions. So as an analogy, if my father or grandfather pursues a life of crime and prefers robbing banks and killing innocent people does not mean I automatically must do the same or condone his actions.
Sorry blog people, I digressed.
Read more: http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/thomas/2010/10/28/my-25-questions-to-begin-the-season/#ixzz13mKQo0N2
mountain_jim
October 29th, 2010
5:53 pm
NBA League Pass is still in Free Preview so I get to see another Hawks game! (I don’t have viewing time to get money’s worth on buying that package…(
Freshfromatl
October 29th, 2010
6:03 pm
Oh wow…I starting to like this Etan guy…
4. With the NBA at one of its highest points ever, doing better worldwide than ever before and with the ability to tread water in the wake of the worse economic environment since the Depression, wouldn’t this be the absolute worst time for a lockout?
13. Why wasn’t Josh Smith an All-Star last year? And how is Joe Johnson still so underrated? Last season, he posted averages of 21, 5 and 5 on a team that won 53 games.
14. Why does the media keep trying to vilify Jamal Crawford for wanting an extension? Don’t they understand the nature of the business is to obtain job security? And where is it documented that he told the team “Pay me or trade me?” Or is that something they made up?
18. Are you officially old when you don’t know any of the slang that your teamates are using? Or you think how they dress looks absolutely horrible? (Skinny jeans will always be terrible to me). This happened to me a lot while playing with the Oklahoma City Thunder last year, but to my defense Oklahoma City was the youngest team in the League.
22. Why isn’t Dominique Wilkins (9-time All-Star) one of the Top 50 players?
25. Last summer, there was a huge controversy over the building of a mosque near Ground Zero. It was viewed by some as a “slap in the face”, “disrespectful” or “celebrating an atrocity.” But here in Georgia they have something called Stone Mountain where they actually have a light show and a big Confederacy party. Let me put this into perspective… Stone Mountain has three figures of the Confederate States carved there. People who were not only fighting for slavery but against everything that America has become today. Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis. Now, Stone Mountain was where the second KKK was formed in 1915, according to Wikipedia. In fact, the Klan had perpetual rights to hold celebrations, lynchings, cross burnings and other sick common practices. Why isn’t there any uproar about this and why isn’t this viewed as “a slap in the face”, “disrespectful” or “celebrating an atrocity?”
MC, was #14 a shot at you? Lol.
Freshfromatl
October 29th, 2010
6:06 pm
MC, was #14 a shot at you? Lol.
Guess I’ll be reading Etan’s blog from now on as well…
Section 303
October 29th, 2010
6:07 pm
Michael, thanks for posting Etan’s blog. I had never read it before. I like people who are not afraid to say/write the way they feel. Though, he really seems to like to cut on the state of Georgia (which really is not that hard).
I think the Hawks should move Joe to the 3, when needed. But, let Jordan Crawford get a little bit of time. I am really curious about that kid. Not sure what I think of him, yet.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
6:16 pm
Jordan is no mystery. The kid is a high volume shooter, heck he took a jump-shot
47 feet from the basket, to his credit there was 7 seconds on the shot clock when he began his drive. Maybe he need glasses and didn’t see there was 5 seconds left to shoot. He should have passed the ball maybe?
He did have 8 assists in one pre-season game, while playing some point.
Bottom line is he is a scorer not a shooter!
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
6:18 pm
Looks like Horford may have to go to was with what he’s got:
Etan, Collins and No Contract Extension!
Michael Cunningham
October 29th, 2010
6:19 pm
@Freshfromatl: “MC, was #14 a shot at you? Lol.”
ha . . . not me in particular, i don’t think, but my kind. word is Ethan doesn’t really trust us reporter types.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
6:22 pm
* go to WAR with what he’s got:
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
6:26 pm
LOL! Listening to 790 The Zone, Pollack and Bell just reported:
Dwight said he’s gonna decapitate the Heat if they come flying in the paint tonight. We can guess who the targets are. Magic making a statement tonight.
I don’t think the 2nd night of a back-to-back will be an issue there.
Roland
October 29th, 2010
6:33 pm
I really hope that the Hawks get Horford’s extension done by the end of this weekend. The team doesn’t need anymore drama, and having to worry about what would happen if Horford becomes a restricted free agent is an unnecessary discussion. The Hawks have no business gambling with a key piece of their team. This contract extension should have been taken care of immediately. We’re not talking about a role player hear, we’re talking about one of the team captains, and, arguably, the heart and soul of the team.
Roland
October 29th, 2010
6:34 pm
I meant to say *distraction*, not “discussion”, above.
truthspitter
October 29th, 2010
6:40 pm
I can feel a loss coming on
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
6:46 pm
i_am_soulstar,
Henry Bibby used to be an asstant Coach for Philly under Mo Cheeks. Now Henry is with guess who? The Grizzlies LOL. I don’t know if we’ll see a repat performance from wedneday night. Bibby likes to stick it to any team his dad is coaching lol.
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
6:46 pm
*repeat
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
6:51 pm
Hmmmm …
Yeah, I think Bibby was reared by a single parent, his Moms.
I don’t think his dad was around for Mike, they don’t seem very close at all.
I got my wish, Coach Drew is “miked-up” tonight, so we get to hear is huddle.
My favorite huddle coach is Doc Rivers! He makes me want to jump inside the TV and play too.
RealSquawk
October 29th, 2010
6:52 pm
Dampier was still available? Come on
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
7:02 pm
drmaryb (*_*),
Yeah his dad was away a lot and eventually Henry and Bibby’s mom divorced. I read in an article some time ago that they have since made amends and sometimes hang out if they are in the same city befor a game.
LD Mic’d up would be great! I’ll take it over a woody sound bite any day!
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
7:06 pm
FATHER-SON (NOT) BONDING : MIKE AND HENRY BIBBY AVOID ALL TALK …
“My father is not part of my life,” Mike Bibby said. …. He only wanted to talk about the game with Arizona, not his personal life. …
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FATHER-SON+(NOT)+BONDING+%3A+MIKE+ AND+HENRY+BIBBY+AVOID+ALL+TALK+ABOUT…-a0838519…
truthspitter
October 29th, 2010
7:06 pm
Philly is a different beast than Memphis. Rudy Gay, Sam Young, and Conley were basically the only attackers of the rim that Memphis had. Philly has a whole team of attackers of the rim. Iggy, Turner, Young, Holiday, Williams. Gonna be hard for Josh to protect the rim against the consistent onslaught considering Philly can’t shoot. This does not look good but that’s why you play the games.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:07 pm
anybody have a link fot the game?
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
7:09 pm
Whodini – Poof!
Hmmm … Yeah that’s too bad, especially when you both love the game and spend your whole life learning:
Team
Together
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
7:10 pm
LET”S GET IT ON!!!!
@ freshfromatl – I like an athlete not afraid to have an opinion.
lewis
October 29th, 2010
7:15 pm
bibby letting jrue get whatever
truthspitter
October 29th, 2010
7:15 pm
Just what I thought. No energy and Josh taking jump shots, not even able to dominate Elton Brand, what a joke.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:17 pm
wow they getting killed already
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:21 pm
wtf is josh doing
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
7:22 pm
so I just get in, turn on the game, and the first thing I see is Josh Smith firing a 3???????????
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
7:22 pm
smoove and his idiotic threes – smh
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
7:23 pm
midrange – midrange, lol
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
7:23 pm
LMFAO@Hawes’ post move then the brick
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
7:24 pm
Horford is heating up – I like it .
terrell
October 29th, 2010
7:25 pm
Show them haters what your’re made of Big Al.
ATL FAN
October 29th, 2010
7:25 pm
WOW, resign Horford NOW!!!
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:27 pm
lmao@joe johnson wow
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
7:27 pm
Thanks for the factoid Hmmm.
Al Horford’s getting it in tonight. Spectacular. Now if Josh would just drive the ball…
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
7:30 pm
Philly Lane = Walmart Super Center
ATL FAN
October 29th, 2010
7:30 pm
Just keep trading shots
jtshoopsblog
October 29th, 2010
7:30 pm
Evans out means more minutes for Marvin. either that or the hawk may go small using the two Crawfords off the bench and putting JJ at the 3. Signing Al will be big for the Hawks, but he is not a Center. He`s better suited at the PF spot with Josh Smith at the 3.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
7:31 pm
Crawford the Matador -
@ I am soulstar, maybe we should hypnotize him like on that old 70’s movie “Let’s Do It Again”
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:31 pm
no defense
ATL FAN
October 29th, 2010
7:31 pm
resign Horford NOW!!!
ATL FAN
October 29th, 2010
7:34 pm
agree JJM
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
7:38 pm
Hmmm, Horford 13pts/4rebs and Jamal 4ast all in the 1st qtr…. Just think, they were two of the guys that caught most of venom on the blog after the Memphis game….SMH, its all season….
truthspitter
October 29th, 2010
7:38 pm
Seriously defense is an afterthought with this team. When Smoove is not in the game there is really no protection of the rim.
deb1820
October 29th, 2010
7:39 pm
JJM did you find a link to the game?
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:42 pm
come on josh pump fake and drive the damn ball
lukas
October 29th, 2010
7:42 pm
deb1820:
http://www.atdhe.net
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:43 pm
yea i found a link
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
7:43 pm
3 hawks right at the ball….and Philly gets possession…
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:43 pm
direct link http://atdhe.net/26844/watch-atlanta-hawks-vs-philadelphia-76ers
lukas
October 29th, 2010
7:44 pm
Somebody should tie an electric shocker to Josh that activates every time he shoots away from the basket.
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
7:46 pm
rookie mistake by Teague
deb1820
October 29th, 2010
7:46 pm
Thank you JJM and lukas
Sleepy
October 29th, 2010
7:48 pm
nba league pass broadband is free until tuesday you can check out all the games in hd
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
7:48 pm
Hawks Fan in New Orleans,
Not sure if I ever saw it, but anything to get him to even entertain the notion of lateral movement.
lukas
October 29th, 2010
7:49 pm
You are welcome, deb.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:49 pm
lmaoooo hook shot
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
7:49 pm
Yes sir, I like the way these Hawks are playing tonight…
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:50 pm
yea all nba league pass are free except the hawks because its blocked out if you live in atlanta
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
7:53 pm
I will admit. Powell may be a better player than I thought.
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
7:54 pm
I believe that I can faintly hear the “Nooooo’s” all the way down here in Florida each time Josh spots up from the outside.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
7:54 pm
lol josh be creeping for that ball
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
8:01 pm
Josh complaining instead of getting back on D.
Leads top a lay-up!
Baaad …..
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
8:02 pm
smh come on hawks
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
8:03 pm
Porous defense from the Hawks.
They seem disinterested or tired?
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
8:04 pm
Where’s the motion??
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
8:05 pm
drmaryb (*_*), That’s the older article. They came out with one in 2008 from the LA times around the time mike was first traded here.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/15/sports/sp-dwyre15
———————————————————
“I’ll call him, wish him happy Father’s Day,” Henry said. “He’s a father now too. And I’ll get a call from him, sometimes the day before if he is traveling. That’s usually how it is.”
Mike agreed that Father’s Day is different now that he acknowledges he has one.
“We’re good now,” he said. “He calls. He calls the children. For a while, there was nothing. But you let things go. It was a long time ago.”
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
8:06 pm
I agree that the confederate flag has a racial connotation. It has no place in our society as it only serves to divide.
I say that to point out,however, that Etan’s blog has a comments section. Responses to his blog belong there rather than on this blog; except where he comments on basketball.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
8:07 pm
great passes from josh horford and marvin needs to score
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
8:14 pm
Offensively a good half! But the defense….Iggy got off, I didn’t like that. Also Bibby got mismatched a few times. That was uncool too lol.
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
8:17 pm
My Goodness! Look at our point distribution! It’s a thing of beauty!
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
8:18 pm
Maybe Drew should hire Woody as defensive coach – just kidding.
J from the A
October 29th, 2010
8:19 pm
OK. I am officially off the “letting Smoove shoot the long jump shot” bandwagon.
I don’t mind Smoove shooting a couple here and there, but some of the jump shots he has been taking have just been bad shots.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
8:24 pm
Magic taking their talents to So. Beach tonight, but:
No Magic going on in So. Beach so far.
cp
October 29th, 2010
8:24 pm
Lol man Nique is brutal on the mic…. Good half offensively but the defense was terrible near the end of the second quarter. I’m kind of surprised the guards didn’t attack Bibby more..I don’t like Josh defending Iggy either…Good game so far though.
cp
October 29th, 2010
8:26 pm
Yea Josh and those jumpers have been annoying again tonight. When he took that 3 I just shook my head. I really wish he understood that he is better near the rim and not out there taking jumpers. Dude has been in the league long enough to get this now.
hawks_4_life
October 29th, 2010
8:27 pm
Who do you hate more the heat or magic?
cp
October 29th, 2010
8:27 pm
lmao Nique has had the same above the rim points for 3 years now.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
8:29 pm
what a block
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
8:30 pm
lmao@cp
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
8:30 pm
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Hawes got murdered…..then traveled out of fear
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
8:31 pm
crucified
J from the A
October 29th, 2010
8:32 pm
I hate the Heat more than the Magic … but according to Etan, the reason why I feel this way is probably because I am a racist … smmfh
northcyde
October 29th, 2010
8:34 pm
I see the decision by Fox Sports Network to broadcast more Memphis Grizzlies games is going to KILL ME in regards of watching the Hawks.
NOTE TO SPORTSOUTH . . . While people in Middle Tennessee don’t give a damn about the Hawks, they REALLLY don’t give a damn about the Grizzlies. So if my cable listing says that the Hawks will be on, PLEASE SHOW THE DAMN HAWKS!!!
Don’t tell me that I’ll have to watch the entire season on my laptop?
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
8:36 pm
A chicken and egg question: Is Al just this good, or is Hawes just that bad on defense?
I forgot Marvin was on the court until he attempted the 3pt.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
8:37 pm
What the hell does Marvin do all Summer?
He sure isn’t putting up 1K made shots per day, definitely not from 3 pt land.
He has got to hit at least half those jumpers!
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
8:38 pm
Looks like its only a cramp that josh has
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
8:38 pm
YEAH Horf – show “Smoove” how to take it to the hoop. Take notes and become J Smash – shaving legs and stuff is not a good look = FINESSE. Atown has enough metro sexuals, lol.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
8:39 pm
I think Josh plays better against Philly than any other team. Every since he re-signed, He’s always had great games against them.
cp
October 29th, 2010
8:42 pm
Marvin is looking like the Marv from last year, missing wide open jumpers
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
8:42 pm
man we should be blowing this team out
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
8:43 pm
Remember J.J.M – this is a road game – at home this may well be a blow out in our favor. A road win is a road win no matter how close, IMO.
cp
October 29th, 2010
8:43 pm
drmary whatever Marv is doing all summer it doesn’t look like it helped his game . Dude just cant put together back to back good games
Sautee
October 29th, 2010
8:44 pm
LOL at Nique: OOgadalla
Ramon, it says a lot more about Hawes poor defense.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
8:45 pm
*sighs* iso joe
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
8:45 pm
Josh got hurt making a hustle play.
Dang! I hope he is ok?
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
8:46 pm
time to give joe a rest
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
8:47 pm
J.J.M., remember we spotted them 9 points to begin the game. Since then we are 18 points better.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
8:47 pm
Marvin is still on pace for a double double. With the bad shooting night, if he walks away with 10/10 tonight, I’d be perfectly fine with that.
cp
October 29th, 2010
8:48 pm
Other than that one bad foul, Teague has played some nice defense.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
8:49 pm
CP, Bibby has played decent defense also.
cp
October 29th, 2010
8:52 pm
lol as soon as I give him props he makes another bad foul lol
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
8:52 pm
Hawks are going to need Jamal scoring off the bench. I wouldn’t trade him unless we get a sweet deal in return..
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
8:54 pm
smh everytime we expand the lead here comes the 76ers
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
8:55 pm
Iso – Joe is fine. It is a great play, Is – Jamal is fine too!
When you get the right match-up go for it, it’s no different than posting up a smaller player.
Mark Jackson would post up every guard in the league for 24 minutes every time down the floor, til the league made the “Mark Jackson Rule”:
24 second shot clock!
But that dude, would run every team play with his back to the basket in the post.
LOL! He is a “worser” commentator than Nique’ by far!
But, some timely Iso’s are fantastic! That’s how we swept the Celtics last year. They couldn’t stop Joe and Jamal!
So, don’t get it twisted, IMHO
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
8:56 pm
Come on Teague, stop falling for the same trick dude.
Ree Roe
October 29th, 2010
8:57 pm
Somebody please tell Teague to stay on his feet.
-REEspect Roe!!!
cp
October 29th, 2010
8:58 pm
I really like this Josh Powell acquisition and ZaZa is playing hard as hell
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
8:59 pm
Hopefully the Hawks have just weathered the 3rd quarter letdown with a 10 point lead. JT0 gave back several of the points all be himself when he sent their jumpshooters to the FT line.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
8:59 pm
Drmary, I agree its a great play. And it is a very effective play. At the same time, it shouldn’t be the primary play that you run.
Does anyone else look at Durant (a player’s game I love) and wonder if he is better than what McGrady was before the injuries piled up? Before McGrady started having back problems, there wasn’t a way he couldn’t score. He could beat you off the dribble, post up, and his shooting was automatic.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:01 pm
time to put the starters back in
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:05 pm
You can’t question many things the Lakers do. But Powell is proving to be a really good player that they let go.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
9:06 pm
Josh Powell could be our Udonis Haslem, an un-drafted banger!
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:07 pm
Drmary, I like that comparison! And he’s cheaper, lol.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:08 pm
Miami is defending Orlando the way you have to so far.
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
9:08 pm
Zaza and Powell seem to be the remedy to the Hawks 3rd quarter letdowns. A nice luxury for Drew to leave JJ, Josh & Al on the bench well into the 4th quarter. They can come back in and clean up the leftovers.
G Money
October 29th, 2010
9:08 pm
SIGN HORFORD NOW!!!!! WITF ARE YOU THINKING!!!!!! IT IS A NO BRAINER. SIGN HIM LONG TERM!!!!!
Sautee
October 29th, 2010
9:08 pm
Ramon,
I haven’t checked the stats, but I think Durant’s a better shooter than T-Mac ever was. Or so my eyes say.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:09 pm
Wow!!!
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:09 pm
smh@zaza
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:10 pm
sloppy
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:14 pm
choke time
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:15 pm
Sautee, starting from when he signed with Orlando, they’re shooting percentage is very similar. McGrady normally had more attempts because he didn’t as much offensive talents (Grant couldn’t get off trainer’s table) than Durant has had. But its very close. And McGrady drew more fouls.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=532
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=3202
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:15 pm
McGrady averaged more assists also.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
9:16 pm
Josh Smith:
-still taking long jumpers/threes
-noticed him try to take it coast to coast like he’s a guard or got handles…and dribbled it off of his knee out of bounds
-silly foul….and silly tech after that foul
TEAM CAPTAIN!!!!!
drmaryb (*_*)
October 29th, 2010
9:17 pm
Iso-Joe TIME!
take us home big fella! This yo’ team!
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
9:18 pm
horford wide open
Wabe
October 29th, 2010
9:18 pm
Good look
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
9:18 pm
Whats hap’nen captain Smash?
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:19 pm
lmao@bibby
Wabe
October 29th, 2010
9:20 pm
They’re taking a bit too much time getting into what they need to get into…
Shotclock keeps winding down on them…
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
9:20 pm
Too much Iso Joe the last few possessions…
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:21 pm
why dont the hawks post horford up?
barry
October 29th, 2010
9:22 pm
sixers fan here in MD watching game on League Pass wondering how in the world Wilkins got the job as the analyst over Glenn? the grammar, the enunciation, the shallow and incorrect insights are appalling. what did the good people of the ATL do to deserve this?
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
9:23 pm
Dwayne Wade just hit a nasty and-1. Heat up by 7 just before half.
Wabe
October 29th, 2010
9:23 pm
I think Drew’s keeping it in Joe’s hands hoping he can either find a good look for himself or set somebody else up…
It’s not your typical ISO JOE…
He’s getting the pick at the top to force a mismatch. But, he’s either taking too long getting into what he wants to do or he’s tryin too hard looking for somebody to dish the rock to.
Not sure.
Ree Roe
October 29th, 2010
9:23 pm
Too much iso guys, mix it up with the motion offense
-REEady Roe!!!
Shaun
October 29th, 2010
9:24 pm
Glenn left. Smitty took over. Smitty left. Wilkins took over.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:24 pm
nothing but jump shots
Wabe
October 29th, 2010
9:25 pm
Offense looks a bit rough…
Jamal hasn’t really seen too many looks outside of that one he just forced up.
Shaun
October 29th, 2010
9:25 pm
And personally, I’d rather have the face of ATL basketball as analyst then the stinger.
JustAThought
October 29th, 2010
9:25 pm
Hahahahahahahahahaha! All you hawks fans must be holding your breathe (and scared to fart) waiting for the Al to re-sign………….I suspect they are asking more (and they should) than the suck-ass ownership is looking to pay. Good luck Al…….with your decision that is:(
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
9:25 pm
Josh just got robbed on that rebound. He had position but was called for foul
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
9:25 pm
Is there a reason why Josh jersey is rip up…. Niconi is a dirty player
Wabe
October 29th, 2010
9:25 pm
Wayyyyyyyy too much ISO JOE…
With you Melvin
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:25 pm
joe johnson is ass
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
9:26 pm
Thank you Mike Bibby!
cp
October 29th, 2010
9:26 pm
Wayyy too much dribbling.. The Hawks have went into the offensive version of the prevent defense
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:26 pm
they have not post up at ALL in the 4th
Wabe
October 29th, 2010
9:27 pm
Horford…
20 points and 11 boards…
Where’s you know who?
ignition
October 29th, 2010
9:27 pm
Good Pass Bibby !!!!!
JustAThought
October 29th, 2010
9:27 pm
Shaun…………..thats cold. The stinger been around a while!
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:27 pm
Melvin, jersey ripped, and no foul call. The way Nocioni plays I think is the reason Josh tried to take the shot with that screen. He shouldn’t have argued it. lol
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
9:27 pm
They’ve still got to develop some discipline. Too many weak moments in this game.
cp
October 29th, 2010
9:28 pm
Great pass by Bibby and will someone please tell Nique to stop calling a win before the game is over. He did this a lot last year and they ended up losing.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478 Westside Macon)
October 29th, 2010
9:28 pm
wdf
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:28 pm
hawks deserve to lose
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
9:28 pm
I am on league pass to in Louisiana but Philly’s commentator and analyst are on – there are good.
Wabe
October 29th, 2010
9:29 pm
LMAO
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
9:29 pm
Josh with the dagger 3….. take that, take that…
JustAThought
October 29th, 2010
9:29 pm
Barry he’s their legend…………….how did you think it happened.
ignition
October 29th, 2010
9:30 pm
Smooove for 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL I love it… !!!
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
9:30 pm
WHAT!!!!!!! J SMASH – shut em up!
Ree Roe
October 29th, 2010
9:30 pm
This end of the game is scaring me & it’s not even Halloween yet :-/
-REEview of Roe!!!
i_am_soulstar
October 29th, 2010
9:30 pm
“Don’t take it! Don’t take it!” “Oh, good shot!”
cp
October 29th, 2010
9:30 pm
Big shot Josh although i was saying nooooo when he was shooting it
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
9:30 pm
I can’t believe Josh took that shot.
Wabe
October 29th, 2010
9:30 pm
It was 91-78 when I got home from work…
Not sure how they played prior to the 7 minute mark in the 4th quarter. But, these last 6-7 minutes were rough.
And that J.Smoove 3 pointer is not the shot you want when you need a bucket…
Even though it went in.
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
9:32 pm
Keep shooting Josh…lol
JustAThought
October 29th, 2010
9:32 pm
And to think Barry a few years back he lobbied hard to be the hawks coach………….what a joke that was!
ignition
October 29th, 2010
9:32 pm
We definitely have to tighten up our defense…
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:33 pm
Hawks shouldnt even be in this position this group been together to long to be letting leads like this go away
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:33 pm
21 turnovers? come on we were the best team last season in not turning it over
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:36 pm
Marvin hasn’t scored a point, or grabbed a single rebound every since I said he was on pace for a double double.
ignition
October 29th, 2010
9:36 pm
This game should have been a blowout, but a win is a win (if we win) especially on the road..
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:37 pm
And Teague played the least minutes on the team, but still had the most fouls.
Sautee
October 29th, 2010
9:37 pm
Ramon,
Yeah, you just HAD to say it, LOL!
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:37 pm
After tonight, only need 23 more road wins! If the Hawks get 25 road wins this season, I can’t see them not having 55 total wins at the end of the year.
cp
October 29th, 2010
9:38 pm
lol Ramon. Marvin just disappears way too much. Dude is literally invisible out there.
J.J.M.
October 29th, 2010
9:39 pm
cant even make a free throw
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:40 pm
Lol, he disappears like a pack of clear Kool-aid in water, lol.
ignition
October 29th, 2010
9:40 pm
I think the offense is fine and over time will only get better & better… But our D has to get better especially when Josh is out the game.. We rely WAY to much on Josh to clean up plays instead of playing good consistent team defense.. AI got off when Josh was out in the second half…
Melvin
October 29th, 2010
9:41 pm
Josh end the game with a block shot… take that you Josh bashers…
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
9:41 pm
Hawks have been too sloppy. Just a little more defense
ignition
October 29th, 2010
9:41 pm
Great block Josh…!!!!!!!!!!!
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
9:41 pm
A BIG BLOCK to win the game
cp
October 29th, 2010
9:41 pm
It was absolutely ugly down the stretch but a road win is a road win. They still have a long way to go.
Ree Roe
October 29th, 2010
9:42 pm
Thank god we escaped with the win. 4th Q looked WAAY too much like last season on the road. Still a win is a win & we’re 2-0 on the season & 2-0 on the season
-REEspect for Roe!!!
b jones
October 29th, 2010
9:42 pm
Yeah! smoove won it with a trey and a block. never question his shooting now that he’s won one with the three.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:42 pm
Ignition, that is true. But also don’t forget that Teague gave Louis Williams 8 free points also.
Sautee
October 29th, 2010
9:42 pm
J-Smash with the game winner on BOTH ends!
ignition
October 29th, 2010
9:43 pm
4th quarter was just to sloppy.. 21 turnovers .. only 7 turnovers in the first half.. But again a win is a win.. Great Win Hawks !!!!!!!!!!
2-0 Baby.. !!!!!!
cp
October 29th, 2010
9:44 pm
Ramon I cant lie, I just don’t have too many expectations for Marvin this year. I have given up on this so called potential. Dude just does not get after it like he is capable of doing. Looked good the first game then came out tonight and wasn’t even noticeable.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:44 pm
Trevor, I STRONGLY disagree! The ’same ol’ Hawks’ would’ve LOST a road game where the opposition came back in the fourth quarter. The fact that they made adjustments and still found a way to win ON THE ROAD, is anything but the same ol’ Hawks.
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
9:44 pm
Some early adversity is good. LD choosing to go pick n’ roll/ISO the last 5 minutes of the game was A VERY BAD DECISION. Som motion would have been nice. The D needs work as well. Overall Good game though.
b jones
October 29th, 2010
9:45 pm
two in a row, on the road, and some of you are still picking nits… they look good, get used to it.
Sautee
October 29th, 2010
9:46 pm
Road wins are like GOLD.
ignition
October 29th, 2010
9:46 pm
Quality win for the Hawks !!!!!!!
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:47 pm
CP, my only expectation is for him to at least get 7 rebounds a game. I don’t even care about the scoring from him any more, because the bench is scoring more. But he should be able to get 7 rebounds on the defensive end. When AI and Nocioni both had offensive rebounds, Marvin has to be the one who keeps the wings off the boards.
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
9:47 pm
2-0 on the ROAD!!
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
9:47 pm
Whay is Joeal Anthony Giving D12 the business? Snagging rebounds over him n’ stuff??? Orlando down by 13 in the 3rd WOW.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
9:48 pm
Horford had to come back strong after the great game by ZaZa – 2 and 0 I ain’t complaining.
Samuel
October 29th, 2010
9:49 pm
Good win. Heat heatn up.
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
9:49 pm
Miami is CRUSHING Orlando right now. I need to figure out what Miami doing thats giving Orlando fits.
Sautee
October 29th, 2010
9:50 pm
We won on the road while making 24 turnovers. They got 24 points off those 20 to’s. Cut that in half and we win by 14.
We DID hold them to a decent (41.2%) shooting percentage.
Sautee
October 29th, 2010
9:52 pm
Excuse me, we made 20 to’s, not 24.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:53 pm
Hmm, the Heat are not doubling Howard.
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
9:53 pm
Rondo has 24 assists for Boston against Knicks. He is amazing.
truthspitter
October 29th, 2010
9:54 pm
A win is a win again but too many turnovers down the stretch. We seemed to panic when they turned the defense up. Happy with Al tonight. Marvin returned to his normal self. Maybe 2morrow will be more of a complete game.
Rufus1
October 29th, 2010
9:54 pm
llll
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:54 pm
@ Rev, and 10 rebounds!
Sautee
October 29th, 2010
9:54 pm
Yeah Rev, if Rondo keeps this ish up, he’ll be MVP.
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
9:55 pm
Rondo a point away from a triple double but is at the FT line.
Got it.
Eldridge Recasner
October 29th, 2010
9:58 pm
Confirmed. This team is no better than last year. ~50 wins, 7 game 1st round series, might get to the 2nd round to be swept again. Is 4 straight 2nd round sweeps an NBA record? Maybe 3 straight already is.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
9:59 pm
Wade just baptized D12’s shot, lol.
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
9:59 pm
DID YOU GUYS JUST HEAR LD’S INTERVIEW!? I feel like waving a Hawks towel everytime I hear him speak. Genius!
Section 303
October 29th, 2010
10:00 pm
Trevor, that’s a stupid post. A win is a win in this league, especially on the road. These games are not going to be easy. So, get a clue.
Good win, but Joe has to hit those free throws. I’m sorry, but he makes too much money to blow those.
Great Horford game tonight. Jamal Crawford was nice, too.
Fire up for tomorrow night, guys! Got Michigan State vs Iowa at 3:30. Then, off to Philips for the home opener. Will be at Taco Mac by 2:30. Planning to get some work in on my “advanced degree”.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
10:02 pm
Right on Ramon – last this is a game the Hawks would have lost – I see improvement in that they pulled this one out.
@Rev in tampa – it would be refreshing to see Rondo break up that Durant/Queen James chitter chatter.
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
10:03 pm
Ramon, I should’ve guessed that lol.
Leon
October 29th, 2010
10:05 pm
Props to Big Al and Josh tonight. The team, as a whole, played pretty well, but these two stood out in particular. Al was the MVP tonight, scoring his buckets almost flawlessly, meanwhile playing strong on the glass and on defense. Josh’s blocks were huge tonight, they came at some great times. Keep up the good work, Hawks!
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
10:08 pm
When the last time you saw Joe shoot 60% AND goto the line 12 times?
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
10:08 pm
hot dayum 24 assist by Rajon Rondo!!!
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
10:12 pm
Hmmm, where did you hear the Drew interview? Will it be posted on the Hawks website. I love hearing his perspective.
doc
October 29th, 2010
10:15 pm
i wonder how that feels as a fan to watch your team blow out the magic. heat torching the magic and look a whole heck of a lot better than opening night.
Freshfromatl
October 29th, 2010
10:19 pm
Question.
Is the Magic being exposed? Or are they just missing shots?
Also…the Heat are trotting out a 6′9 center (Maybe A 7 foot center isn’t what the Hawks need afterall)…just saying
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
10:20 pm
HOUSTON JUST SIGNED DAMPIER! LOL…wow!
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
10:21 pm
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/10/29/dampier.rockets/?ls=iref:nbahpt2
You mean to tell me we couldn’t have signed him for $2 mil?? Rockets signed Dampier and Miller, to go along with Ming and Scola.
Najeh Davenpoop
October 29th, 2010
10:21 pm
“DID YOU GUYS JUST HEAR LD’S INTERVIEW!? I feel like waving a Hawks towel everytime I hear him speak. Genius!”
Co-sign. Drew has been nothing short of impressive so far, and he projected an image in that post game interview of a man who is calm, collected, and on top of every aspect of coaching this team.
As for the team itself, I still haven’t seen them play a playoff team so I’m not 100% willing to jump on the Ken Strickland Optimism Bandwagon yet. With that said, although I only saw the last five minutes of this game, I was very impressed both with what I saw and what was on the box score. The Hawks excelled at every aspect of the game other than protecting the ball, and it’s reasonable to believe that ball security will improve as the team gets more experienced at running the offense.
And whaddya know, maybe Smoove can be a viable outside shooter after all. Say what you want about that guy, but the results say he improves on his game every season, and you can see that his all around offensive game has taken a step forward again this year.
doc
October 29th, 2010
10:22 pm
now, who was it that said the heat wouldnt be that strong?
sautee, the to’s came during iso stuff, too, sadly in the last quarter. got to improve there.
as far as j smash, one a gamer of a three the other a stuff of the three. who will be the first to say something negative about it or have they already?
Najeh Davenpoop
October 29th, 2010
10:23 pm
Rev, the Drew interview was on Fox Sports South after the game. I’m guessing it will probably be on hawks.com too.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
10:23 pm
Fresh, the Heat aren’t leaving the shooters to double. And in the 3rd quarter when they moved to a zone (4-1) with Lebron playing the role of Troy P, it just blew it out of the water.
doc
October 29th, 2010
10:25 pm
liked the combined effort on the stat sheet of the power forwards and the centers. good stuff from those four guys playing plenty of minutes between them. also got to like the idea only 33 minutes max used up by most of our starters tonight.
Rufus1
October 29th, 2010
10:25 pm
Great win
24 turnovers on the road, we still score 104pts and still win…..Wow We are better, we are way better.
The Magic don’t have the wing athletes to defend the Wade and Lebron, they also did not double D12.
Najeh Davenpoop
October 29th, 2010
10:28 pm
Heh… from MC’s link to Etan Thomas’ blog post above:
“Since living in Georgia this season I’ve probably seen more confederate flags than I had my entire life. Do people really still fly that symbol of slavery, evil and hate now in 2010?”
Just stay within 20 miles of the city of Atlanta and you’ll be fine, Etan. That’s what I do.
Ramon
October 29th, 2010
10:28 pm
Lol, Josh shooting 66% from the 3pts, lol.
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
10:31 pm
Rev, It was on sportssouth after the game.
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/pages/hawks
^It should be posted on their site very soon.
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
10:32 pm
Najeh, you saw the ugliest part of the game for the Hawks. They spotted the Sixers 9 points to start the game and played well until the last 8 minutes when they tried to go into an ineffective stall offense. They had run up a fifteen point lead and finished the 4th with a solid ten point lead. It would have been larger if Teague hadn’t kept running into the jumpshooters while they were shooting.
Najeh Davenpoop
October 29th, 2010
10:32 pm
LMAO…
“Are you officially old when you don’t know any of the slang that your teamates are using? Or you think how they dress looks absolutely horrible? (Skinny jeans will always be terrible to me). This happened to me a lot while playing with the Oklahoma City Thunder last year, but to my defense Oklahoma City was the youngest team in the League.”
I’m more or less the same age as Dwight Howard and I think skinny jeans are terrible. I hope that doesn’t make me old…
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
10:38 pm
Thanks Hmmm
truthspitter
October 29th, 2010
10:56 pm
Yes Etan I used to work in Cumming and they still have those hate flags but you have to think about it the American white man would be nothing without that symbol of hate that is how they got ahead and will never ever man up and repay those they enslaved or even admit that they are evil beings they will just say why do people keep bringing that up. Though I digress. 3-0 will look good. Could go 7-0 before being beaten to a pulp by Orlando.
doc
October 29th, 2010
11:00 pm
“We just kind of made some boneheaded plays down the stretch, with me leading the pack definitely,” Hawks guard Joe Johnson said. “We’ve got to know the time and the score. In the fourth quarter, under five minutes [to play], we’ve really got to take care of the ball. That’s on me.”
finally, joe talks like a leader and takes personal accountability when things dont go well. love it.
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
11:08 pm
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/10/26/10/Hawks-hopes-for-improving-this-season/landing_hawks.html?blockID=339128&feedID=3635
^ Nice Hawks Article
hawkfan
October 29th, 2010
11:09 pm
watching josh childress right now brings back memories, oh well at least he is back in the league again
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
11:13 pm
@truthspitter – That’s why I posted the following earlier.
“I agree that the confederate flag has a racial connotation. It has no place in our society as it only serves to divide.
I say that to point out,however, that Etan’s blog has a comments section. Responses to his blog belong there rather than on this blog; except where he comments on basketball.”
Hmmm
October 29th, 2010
11:21 pm
Grizz beat the Mavs tonight, which gives our blowout against them more credability lol.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 29th, 2010
11:32 pm
good point Hmmm. flying under the radar is cool – but its getting old. But the 2nd round debacle put us firmly back under radar, lol – so it is what it is.
Rev in Tampa
October 29th, 2010
11:35 pm
I saw some on the blog dissing Marvin tonight for missing some wide open 3’s. Does everyone realize that Kapono, the Sixers starting SF had NO POINTS tonight. The NBA.com game recap said Kapono struggled even to get open looks.
rusty
October 29th, 2010
11:47 pm
good game,a win on the road, i just love ld feel that he knows the game & our team. we looked good jj tried to take over the game in the last quarter which is the last thing this team needs. josh played great even tho there was quite a few times i was cursing him. this team is so much more fun to watch when they arent playing iso ball
kirkinga
October 30th, 2010
9:13 pm
Good thing Etan plays for the Hawks. If he played for the Braves or Falcons because he would have been gone already. MC might not have done him any favors by directing fans to his blog even though it was some interesting reading.
Go Hawks!!