Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 104, Sixers 101

Proof the Hawks did in fact play some D. (AP Photo)

Proof the Hawks did in fact play some D. (AP Photo)

Philadelphia–It didn’t take long for the same old Hawks to make an appearance. Well, that’s not quite right because they did pull out the victory after trying to give it away, but you know what I mean: Stagnant offense, careless turnovers, poor shot selection, awful transition D, lack of poise . . .

– “It was a little flash of what we were doing last year,” Al said.

– — “We just kind of made some boneheaded plays down the stretch, with me leading the pack definitely,” J.J. said. “We’ve got to know the time and the score. In the fourth quarter, under five minutes [to play], we’ve really got to take care of the ball. That’s on me.”

– Instead of going with motion sets late, L.D. kept calling for Bibby to set a pick so J.J. could end up with a mismatch on Lou Williams. That led to a lot of standing around for J.J.’s teammates and a critical turnover when Williams poked away the ball and Nocioni scored on a fastbreak.

– “We’ve had some success running the pick-and-roll with Mike and Joe, and they did a good job defending it,” Drew said. “We came up with a couple of bad possessions.”

– They won with a bad possession, too, unless you think Smoove shooting a corner 3 with the game on the line is a good idea. It was the textbook “Nooooooooo . . . yesssss!” play for Smoove. Or, from the Sixers’ fans perspectives the arena: “Shoot it! Shoot it! . . . Shoot!”

– “We was able to get it done,” Josh said. “It wasn’t pretty. You are going to have games where it’s not pretty like how it was in the end. But we found a way to get the job done.”

– That dagger aside, Smoove is still shooting and missing jumpers. This is (not surprisingly) going to be the first big challenge for L.D. He’s said he wants Josh’s teammates to stop giving him the ball in bad positions, but what are they supposed to do when they are looking for ball movement and he’s the open guy?

– Thing is, the game is over and you look at Josh’s line and he did most everything else right. Glaring exceptions being those three fourth-quarter turnovers and a technical foul when he kept jawing at Bob Delaney, who was trying to give him some slack.

– Al rediscovered his jump shot plus some. He pushed around Spencer Hawes, controlled the defensive glass and played big around the basket. Al was 6 for 6 with four rebounds in the first quarter, but then you sort of always expect him to have a good game after a bad one.

– L.D. so far has made good on his pledge to use the bench liberally. He sticks with lineups like Teague, Jamal, Marvin, Powell and Zaza for long stretches. Then again, the bench guys make it easier when they hold it down.

– Zaza was physical on the boards again. Powell doesn’t have great touch around the basket but he’s got some nifty moves. Jamal is still Jamal, balky back and unmet contract demands be damned.

– The Hawks are winning because they are scoring with relative ease for long stretches. But the defense is still suspect. The perimeter guys other than Teague struggle to keep ballhandlers out of the lane and aren’t much better at closing out on shooters. Smoove can’t do everything.

– And don’t even mention the transition D. If the Hawks are going to turn the ball over they at least need to get back, especially against high-energy opponents like Philly. “We got a little lackadaisical an we didn’t get back on defense, which was one thing we really wanted to do against this team,” L.D. said.

– Teague can’t get a call when he goes to the hole. The only way for that to change is for him to keep forcing the issue until he gets his respect from refs.

– When Jamal and Teague are in the game together it’s like each is trying to play a different style. Teague wants to slow down and run some sets and Jamal wants to attack and do his thing. Both were aggressive, though, so maybe they can work it out.

– J.J. had ice on his left hand after the game. He said he took a hit during training camp. “It’s something that’s not ever going to heal because I get hit in the hand every game,” he said.

– Joe had 12 free-throw attempts and Jamal had seven. The Hawks were 26 of 31 from the line. These are all encouraging trends for the Hawks.

– We’ll see if blowing road leads becomes a trend like last season. “As I told them after the game, sometimes it’s not always going to turn out the way we want it to turn out but the main thing is we found a way to get a win,” L.D. said.

Home opener vs. the Wiz tomorrow.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

124 comments Add your comment

MB in SC

October 30th, 2010
5:56 pm

hawks_4_life… thank you VERY much.

MB in SC

October 30th, 2010
5:59 pm

Rev – SC is a really nice place; a little bassackwards at times, but the small town charm most cities have is wonderful. Not many basketball fans though, and definitely not many Hawks fans. Seems like most of the folks in SC don’t even know who the Bobcats are.

hawks_4_life

October 30th, 2010
7:00 pm

Samuel

October 30th, 2010
7:34 pm

AiiiiiirrrrrrBBBBBBaaaalllll

Samuel

October 30th, 2010
7:37 pm

JWall vs JTeague in Horse. Who wins?

Melvin

October 30th, 2010
7:38 pm

The Wizards length and speed is given the Hawks trouble…

Melvin

October 30th, 2010
7:47 pm

Hawks need to Re-sign Jamal Crawford during the next TV time out…

Melvin

October 30th, 2010
7:50 pm

Joe look like he jump off a trampline for that put back dunk…

Sautee

October 30th, 2010
8:16 pm

Samuel,

Neither gets to H, LOL!

Samuel

October 30th, 2010
8:40 pm

Melvin

October 30th, 2010
9:19 pm

Two big shots by Joe after struggling with his jumper tonight…

hawks_4_life

October 30th, 2010
9:33 pm

game set match

richbrave

October 30th, 2010
9:49 pm

Just witnessed the HAWKS-WIZZIES match-up. What did I miss. I mean, I’m not a student of basket-ball and certainly not of NBA caliber play. But we know what the WIZZIES are about after their absolutely abysmal performance against the MAGIC.

Is the MAGIC that good and the WIZARDS that bad? If so how did the ARENAS’-less D.C. GENERALS of thursday evening become the tough adversary of the HAWKS tonight.

Atlanta’s my go to team for jollies. This game did make me feel better, but about THE WRONG TEAM!!!!! WTH, HAWKSTERS. Help me out here. What went wrong? Because I’m getting a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach regarding my go to squad. I know the HAWKS played their second in a row, but it’s the BEGINNING of the season, not the end of it. The WIZ ain’t that good believe me.

Big Ray

October 30th, 2010
10:04 pm

Richbrave ,

Hawks haven’t played good team defense yet this season, for one thing. The Wiz’s 95 points are the LEAST amount they’ve allowed in the first three games.

Secondly, the Hawks struggle against good point guards. The reasons are obvious:

1)Bibby will give the effort, but lacks the foot speed.

2)Teague isn’t ready, partially because he was not “thrown to the wolves” last season, but the defensive effort is clearly there. Unfortunately, defending at the point comes with a learning curve. He has learned that he can stay in front of most quick guys (like Lou Williams), but there are other tricks to the trade, and he gets into foul trouble with those (reaching in, or pump fakes). His other problem is that he’s not playing with that fire that’s needed. He better figure out how. Or, we’re back to the drawing board at the pg position….since we failed to get the situation addressed years ago.

3) Jamal sucks on defense. There is absolutely no other way to put it.

Marvin had his first “disappearance” game of the season, which allowed Al Thornton to have his way with us. I’m hoping Marvin isn’t getting back into that habit again, but I also realize he’s not going to play great in every single game. Not having Mo Evans forced us to play Joe at the SF, since Marvin wasn’t getting the job done.

Other than that….we let them shoot 50%, we barely shot much over 40%, and we won the game by shooting (and making) more free throws, and outrebounding them.

The two tall guys playing for the Wiz (6′11″ Blatche and 7′0″ McGee) had 15 rebounds between them. Josh and Al had 20.

Just sayin’…. ;)

richbrave

October 30th, 2010
10:11 pm

The two tall guys playing for the Wiz (6′11″ Blatche and 7′0″ McGee) had 15 rebounds between them. Josh and Al had 20.

Thanx BIG RAY. I’m thinkin’ along those lines too. The WIZ ain’t that great, so the HAWKS played just well enough to win and live to fight another day, huh? O.K., I’ll exhale.

And BTW McGEE keeps growing. He’s now officially 7′1+”. If his game ever catches up to his body, well, we’ll save that for some other time ’cause he sure ain’t caught up yet.

richbrave

October 30th, 2010
10:14 pm

BIG RAY:

1)Bibby will give the effort, but lacks the foot speed.

In that case, he’s in trouble where WALL’s concerned.

Big Ump

October 30th, 2010
11:43 pm

hawk-4-life

You the man.Stay strong.

Big Ump

October 30th, 2010
11:46 pm

Ken S.

What year you were there?

Ken Strickland

October 31st, 2010
12:22 am

BIG UMP-1968-1970.

Big Ump

October 31st, 2010
9:12 am

Enter your comments here

Big Ump

October 31st, 2010
9:15 am

Ken S

69 to 70 myself. I know we had someting in common (smile). Everything going pretty good with you?

Ken Strickland

October 31st, 2010
9:27 am

NORTHCYDE-What team did you root for and who won?

Grandad

October 31st, 2010
12:50 pm

Three blogs:
All old as dirt.
Memphis & Philly still up.
Even though we had a game last eve.
When MC gets back, nc will be here to…
give him a smooch and testify to MC’s au fait > Sekou.

Michael Cunningham

October 31st, 2010
1:06 pm

@Grandad: this newfangled page formatting thing has me admittedly perplexed at the moment. my suggestion is to go straight to blogs.ajc.com/hawks and you will see the latest blog post.