Atlanta Hawks: Bobcats 99, Hawks 66

L.D. could have avoided a waste of time by staying in Atlanta. (AP Photo)

L.D. could have avoided a waste of time by staying in Atlanta. (AP Photo)

Charlotte–The Hawks were in Charlotte but they didn’t really show up. Can’t see how they got anything out of this.

– “Zero,” L.D. said. “Zero. Nothing whatsoever.”

– There were lots of ugly numbers but a few that stood out: Atlanta had 23 turnovers and 22 field goals and was outscored 50-28 in the paint. Sure, the bench guys played a lot of minutes but so did Charlotte’s reserves–and when Matt Carroll and Derrick Brown are taking it to you something is up.

– So much for that glow from beating the Heat. “The only thing we do get out of it is we’ve got to be a better club in these type situations,” L.D. said. “We can watch film and coverages and all of that but the bottom line is we didn’t bring energy, we didn’t bring any since of urgency. That is totally, totally unacceptable. We have got to be a team that comes out and is ready to play every single time we step on the floor. I don’t care what the situation is. We are paid to come out every night and compete and to leave it all on the floor.”

– If that’s the case, not many guys earned their pay tonight. “They seemed disinterested,” Larry Brown said. “They played last night, but still.”

– As in, but still the Hawks at least could have given a professional effort no matter the circumstances of the back-to-back preseason games (which ought to be outlawed if you ask me) and drop off in opponent star power. If the Hawks cared it didn’t show.

– “This is what you call being able to handle success,” Al said. “Throughout the years I’ve been here we have not been able to do that. It shows a lot of immaturity for our team. Now it is for real. Now we have got to really get it going.”

– Are the Hawks ready to start the season Wednesday at Memphis? “It is all going to be determined by how well we practice,” Al said. “As of right now it is uncertain to me how we are going to be.”

– “We will be all right,” Teague said. “You have games like this. It is better it is the preseason.”

– “We still have work to do but I am confident,” Smoove said. “Preseason is preseason. You can go 7-0 preseason but when it is all said and done it is 0-0. You have just got to be ready and geared up. I think we will be OK. We’ve got a couple more practices before we have to go to Memphis and play. We have just got to bring it.”

– The Hawks couldn’t score because they couldn’t protect the ball or generate good shots in the offense. Charlotte got all the layups they wanted because the Hawks were a step slow defensively and, aside from Smoove, couldn’t protect the rim.

– There were several times Josh was frustrated because someone blew their assignment and allowed an easy basket. Once again the Hawks seemed confused about their coverages. “We have just got to communicate,” Josh said. “I am glad this is a preseason game. I don’t see us having a lot of games like this. We have got to communicate more and learn how to do it on the defensive end when the offense isn’t there.”

– Teague’s jump shot still needs a lot of work. He missed all five of his 3-point attempts and about four other long jumpers. Only one or two even came close to going in. Teague also had six turnovers.

– At least Teague matched D.J. Augustine’s quickness. If only there were some way for the Hawks to combine his speed and defense with Bibby’s shot making, ball protection and vet savvy.

Etan checked in late and played with energy. If only he could get more lift around the basket.

Jamal had seven turnovers. One time he lost the ball with no one near him. He still remains the Hawks guard most likely to get to the free-throw line.

– After that strong game against the Heat J.J. took it easy for his 17 minutes. He had three fouls and two field-goal attempts.

– Al had some strong moves around the basket. His jump shot looked better, too.

JC2 had his moments but was kind of all over the place. It’s about what you expect from him in a blowout game where everyone is winging it.

Mo (knee) stayed behind in Atlanta. Bibby got the night off, which means he did about as much as most of his teammates.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

123 comments Add your comment

Ernest

October 22nd, 2010
10:37 pm

Looking at the box score was mind boggling. As Josh said, at least it’s preseason…

N.D.T.K.A.

October 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm

In watching the Hawks play these last 3 games, I am getting the same sick feeling like I had last year. I will give them the benefit of the doubt but this looks an awful lot like the same team from last year playing the same way they played last year. Too many jump shots, no defense, and no leadership or pride about getting taken to the woodshed by opponents.

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
10:46 pm

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
10:47 pm

This team is going nowhere. Can we change the subject?. LMAO

Rev in Tampa

October 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm

Oh well. The season starts next week. MC, thanks for suffering through it for us.

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
10:53 pm

Section 303

October 22nd, 2010
10:59 pm

I’m just not that alarmed by this. I’m not surprised. The game that mattered was last night. The Hawks won a game in which both teams were trying to win. It’s a shame this game tonight was even played. Who cares, really? Come Wednesday night, no one will be talking about the final preseason game with the Bobcats.

I will admit, though, reading what Josh Smith said bothered me. He talks about it just being preseason, basically saying games are not important so max effort isn’t needed. Fine. But, he really has never shown the ability to handle that. When that guy decides to not try as hard as he should, he is awful. I would rather he just work hard and keep his mouth shut sometimes.

ryan

October 22nd, 2010
11:01 pm

I don’t no what say anymore this team is not ever going to get a big name as long as the ASG owns this team its a dead end team the only thing i can say is they could play for 8th or 7th playoff spot .

Najeh Davenpoop

October 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm

“At least Teague matched D.J. Augustine’s quickness. If only there were some way for the Hawks to combine his speed and defense with Bibby’s shot making, ball protection and vet savvy.”

1. Build a time machine
2. Go back five years
3. Draft Chris Paul

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

October 22nd, 2010
11:03 pm

The comments from Teague and Smoove pretty much confirm to me what I thought when I saw the box score — the Hawks put it on cruise control today, coming off a big game at home and knowing that the real games are right around the corner. I’m not saying it’s right, but I am saying that this game probably isn’t an accurate representation of what this team can or will do.

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
11:04 pm

Did some one say the hawks are going no where?

Co sign that .

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
11:05 pm

gee 99 is 66 upside down….

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
11:06 pm

thats 33 points of an aze whooping.

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
11:08 pm

this game probably isn’t an accurate representation of what this team cannot or will not do.

That is win 53 or more game nor make it out of the 2nd round. It may however make lottery in 3 years.

northcyde

October 22nd, 2010
11:11 pm

Honestly though @ 303, it’s these types of games that keep a team from being “elite”. Even Charlotte beat some great teams at home last year, on their way to 31 home wins. But they couldn’t beat much of anybody on the road to save their lives.

This game doesn’t “alarm” me, but if they would’ve brought more effort and won the game, it would’ve told me that maybe they can regain their focus and play a good game on the road against a quality home team.

Instead, they just gave up. After the reserves let the game get out of reach, everybody else just gave up.

Like Drew said . . this is unacceptable for a team supposedly of our caliber.

The bench has been my concern all summer, and they’ve done nothing this preseason to ease my concerns. I just hope Drew doesn’t stick with those guys if they’re playing like garbage.

O'Brien

October 22nd, 2010
11:12 pm

Samuel,

I didnt see you on here criticizing the motion offense last night when they beat Miami. But I guess thats how you are.

When the Hawks won last year, you were quick to come on here and promote Woody as COY. But when the Hawks would blow a lead and lose a game, you were absent.

Likewise, you are quick to point out Woody and his 53 wins, but you hardly mention the sweep to Cleveland in the second round 2 years ago, and the NBA record blowout sweep by Orlando.

Lakers down by 10 at home to the Warriors. Oh Oh. Whatever happened to the great triangle offense? Phil Jackson sucks.

northcyde

October 22nd, 2010
11:15 pm

Hawks have won 90 home games in the past 3 seasons

They’ve won 47 road games during that same time.

Time to toughen up on the road boys. That’s why I’ll be in Memphis on Wednesday night, to see if you will toughen up.

O'Brien

October 22nd, 2010
11:17 pm

Lakers making a run. meanwhile, Suns down by 14 at home to the Nuggets.

It happens.

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
11:24 pm

Is 99 upside down of 66 or is 66 up side down of 99 ?

Either way a contender doesnt get BLOWN out by wanna beesss like this. The hawks got up for a team with out Dwade but go flat two games out…. Good teams dont have those issues because of pride and too much talent.

Deep inside the hawks no they arent going anywhere. Sure there will be some surprising upsets and some foolish blowouts like tonight. At the end of the season this team wont win better than 46 games.

get a center and a coach and you can get back to the 50+ mark

cp

October 22nd, 2010
11:26 pm

Spot on with your 11:12 post O’Brien…. Good points north and 303. The Hawks had quite a few games like this last season. They have to be better on the road this season we already know they are a good home team.

Truth-Se rum

October 22nd, 2010
11:27 pm

didnt see you on here criticizing the motion offense last night – LMAO

I saw the motion of people throwing up tonight at this vulgar display of basuda!

Stuart

October 22nd, 2010
11:32 pm

What happened!!??? If the Hawks can’t even show up against teams other than the Heat, this will be an awful season…. Flat out embarrassing…

Samuel

October 22nd, 2010
11:43 pm

Obrien,
Let me say this again. Never, have I even entertained the thought that we could win a second round series with the talent we have. What I have continued to say all along is that Woody got these guys to play beyond their capability. You guys are the ones who believe that a coach can get our talent past the second round. Yall can spin it however you want. Blame it on preseason, whatever, but we shall see in a few days, won’t we.

Again, we’re not the Lakers so why keep making that analogy. I don’t get it.

Truth-Se rum

October 23rd, 2010
12:25 am

co-sign Samuel ^2

Truth-Se rum

October 23rd, 2010
12:57 am

The Truth

October 23rd, 2010
12:57 am

Teague’s Attitude

“We will be all right,” Teague said. “You have games like this. It is better it is the preseason.”

Josh Smith’s Attitude:

“Preseason is preseason. You can go 7-0 preseason but when it is all said and done it is 0-0. You have just got to be ready and geared up. I think we will be OK.”

Can you see a resemblance? I’m beginning to wonder was it such a good idea to make Josh a captain. This example of his leadership is certainly not a benefit. With Teague having such a horrible performance when he is competing with Bibby for the starting PG position, I would have expected him to be more prepared and/or upset with himself about the loss. Instead, he’s Déjà vu adopting his captain’s attitude of “No Big Deal It’s Just Pre-season”.

Notice how responsible Al Horford is about the loss:

“This is what you call being able to handle success,” Al said. “Throughout the years I’ve been here we have not been able to do that. It shows a lot of immaturity for our team. Now it is for real. Now we have got to really get it going.”

Maybe Teague should start hanging out more with Al then Josh when preparing for games. Since he hasn’t accomplished much in the NBA yet, it seems inappropriate for Teague to downplay this blowout. Where is his proud? If Teague is not careful and subscribe to complacency, he could become the next Acie Law 2.0. Contrary to what he might believe about his favoritism status as the Hawks future PG, if he is not “The Truth”, eventually it will show. I am pulling for him though; I just hope he gets his act together. He is drinking from the wrong fountain right now. The only way Teague is going to get better is to be his own worst critic. Never accept mediocrity even though its just preseason.

Truth-Se rum

October 23rd, 2010
1:16 am

Teague’s jump shot still needs a lot of work. He missed all five of his 3-point attempts and about four other long jumpers. Only one or two even came close to going in. Teague also had six turnovers.

Truth-Se rum

October 23rd, 2010
1:18 am

How did Al handle it other than with his mouth?

“Charlotte got all the layups they wanted because the Hawks were a step slow defensively and, aside from Smoove, couldn’t protect the rim. “

Truth-Se rum

October 23rd, 2010
1:19 am

If you are going to talk the talk at the least back it up! Al.

Truth-Se rum

October 23rd, 2010
1:22 am

Turnover Teague with 6 tour over and Dunk on me Al did not protect the rim but both were running their mouths to reporters after the game….

“Can you see a resemblance?”

Truth-Se rum

October 23rd, 2010
1:24 am

Grandad

October 23rd, 2010
2:23 am

“We are paid to come out every night and compete” -LD-

Yessir !

I usually come on board and talk about primarily the positives.
Ain’t none.

Josh, Teaguer, et al can say pre-season this, we can fix that, we’ll be all right…
Bullcrap.

Al says:
“It shows a lot of immaturity for our team”
” Now it is for real. Now we have got to really get it going.”

Again I say ‘Bullcrap’ to Al.
Go in the locker room & kick Joe’s ass.
Why Joe?
["J.J. took it easy for his 17 minutes"] per MC
Your leader / Captain is on cruise control, why should anyone else care?

["There were several times Josh was frustrated
because someone blew their assignment"] -MC-
["Once again the Hawks seemed confused about their coverages."] -MC-
“We have just got to communicate,” Josh said.
LD’s answer:
“We can watch film and coverages and all of that
but the bottom line is we didn’t bring energy.”

-LD- again, “unacceptable”

Mr Cunningham,
I disagree that back to backs in the pre-season “ought to be outlawed”.
They, the Hawks & everyone else will have to do it come regular season,
they may as well rehearse the situations they will see during pre-season.
Isn’t that what these practice games are for.

Tonight the Hawks wasted an opportunity to learn and improve.
Nothing good to say.
At least LD realizes it!

Big Ray

October 23rd, 2010
2:36 am

I’d be upset if it was a regular season game, though I didn’t like the effort. I’d be upset if they hadn’t just shown that they CAN play well under Drew against a good team.

It’s what it always has been. Larry Drew knows what the issue is, so does JJ, so does Al Horford, and none were shy about it. Good.

The games start to matter on Wednesday. Until then, got nothing else to say about preseason.

Big Daddy

October 23rd, 2010
6:04 am

I don’t like the effort any more than most of the people who post here. The Hawks showed what they could do in the Miami game. Unfortunately, they also showed what they could do on the road, just as they have the past few seasons. They have got to learn how to win on the road and how to squash teams that have less talent than them. The score should have been the other way around given the starters played significant minutes in the first half but there was little spark in them for their time.

This is preseason and I am glad that Drew got a chance to take a good look at the reserves to determine who makes the team and who doesn’t, who fits in with his rotation and who will have DNP besides his name most nights and who to go to if someone gets injured. Besides that this was just a poor effort by a number of guys who still don’t seem to get that there are regular people who pay their hard earned money to see them play and who follow the team. We cheer for them, wear their jersey’s and defend them against our friends and co-workers who favor other teams. We expect the same kind of effort from them as if they came into our establishments or paid for our services.

I am glad no one got hurt and we can begin the season with a healthy team. I sincerly hope that these hiccups are just the growing pains of them executing the new system. We all know they can’t win every game, but we expect for them to come out and compete. We can live with a loss if the team is putting out the effort. Finally, JJ, you are one of the highest paid players in the NBA. Teams should fear you suiting up every night. You need to step it up, the others will follow.

The Truth

October 23rd, 2010
7:30 am

This bad attitude of “No Big Deal It’s Just Pre-season” from the team leaders reminds me of the infamous quote by Allen Iverson, “We talking bout practice man”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

Ramon

October 23rd, 2010
7:57 am

Hey guys, how about Sheldon Williams scored 27 last night for Denver.

jerrywest

October 23rd, 2010
9:09 am

The important thing is nobody got injured last night.

When the coach gave Bibby the day off and only played JJ for 16 minutes, everybody got the message of how important this game was. Energy level goes up when you have reason to fight. Having said that, Teague had a reason to fight last night. Can’t miss all those shots.

At the end of it all we are 0-0 and we know that these players can execute the offense and defense when they want to. Not a well oiled machine, but we know these players enough to expect them to show up in the regular season. The easy schedule early is a god send.

doc

October 23rd, 2010
9:46 am

co-sign samuel, t-s, jw and truth.

laugh with najeh.

see grand dad is catching on.

echo t-s, can we change the subject?

this subject comes up too often lately, four blowouts in championship series and what three in seven pre-season games? you play like you practice is what they told me.

etan no lift? geez, that sounds like what my coaches used to say to me in my youth. my buddies called it white boy disease. zaza has it. now we have to know that etan has it as well.

teague is a bust, looks for excuses.

this is what shaq was talking about when he didnt want to come here, too immature to win and believe it or not, he wants to be with a winner.

simply f’ugly,sums it up.

jerrywest

October 23rd, 2010
9:52 am

Memphis has more wins than Lakers and Heat combined. Let’s not get carried away. They will show up in the regular season.

doc

October 23rd, 2010
9:53 am

disinterested? hmmm, doubt larry would have said the same if woody was still around though this team could do it just as well to woody as they showed to cost him his job?

Not so casual observer

October 23rd, 2010
10:11 am

Pride.

Jordan and the Bulls had pride, as do the Lakers and Celtics.

Unfortunately the Hawks play as if they have no pride, but they do have their pay checks!

No excuse for their performance, whether JJ or Bibby played or did not the Hawks should not lose to one of the worst teams in the East.

Winning has to become an attitude and a habit.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

October 23rd, 2010
10:12 am

Ahem :s
My prediction for the upcoming season: 50 – 32 but I have a hard time thinking they will survive the second round with the same lackadaisical mentality against mediocre teams and continued road woes-preseason or not. Hard to be optimistic but it is just preseason.

Ted M

October 23rd, 2010
10:24 am

wow what a dud…what if the Hawks go 47-35 and go out in the first round as a 5 or 6 seed? Will they can LD?

sam'l

October 23rd, 2010
10:36 am

Bad bad game. Drew will have his chance….but it may only be 10 games or so. Woody really was a bad coach, actually a horrible coach….let’s not forget Dallas last year….but maybe it takes a seasoned veteran with great skills to coach this team. Look for one of these types to make an appearance in December.

I hope I’m wrong….but the Hawks got clobbered…..coach Drew is already using “old material” in his apology, and the players indicate an extraordinary cluelessness. (Sigh) GO HAWKS (Maybe to Vegas, Seattle)

truthspitter

October 23rd, 2010
10:58 am

Sports and entertainment really is overrated especially when people don’t put on good performances. Someone is going through life threatening situations and needs something to temporarily take them away from there pain and eventual destination but they go out there and play like this.

I.MUS WRITE

October 23rd, 2010
11:12 am

No big deal -theres nothing to see here people keep it moving. Its preseason, but we need to pick it up with only 5 days left until opening night.

Ive been say’n it for a while -right now all Teague offers us is speed, which really doesnt help alot unless he’s pushing the ball on the break. In half court sets teams will sag back into the lane and dare the guy to shoot. That jumper is broken…..AC Law Part Deaux

Why do we always draft PG’s that cant shoot-who’s in charge of scouting -jeezuz

Ishmel Smith teagues running mate at Wake Forrest is looking good in Houston- I think he is going to be a good one- Plays like Kyle Lowrey but faster……

Truth-Se rum

October 23rd, 2010
11:42 am

Doc, Ditto on the f u g l y – LMAO

Good post Grandad

sam’l Woodson did an excellent job. I hope thats your last can of hateraid.

rusty

October 23rd, 2010
11:48 am

the hawks are a bunch of spoiled brats with no pride. i am not basing that on last night. i am basing it on there playoff collaspses. they give jj a max contract when he disses the fans & destroys team chemistry often plays like he has a load in his pants & SHOWS AS MUCH INTEREST as the man in the moon. js who rather be a slick outside player & when he drives to the hoop rather put up a finger roll than a dunk. the way this man dunks & jumps he should have 15 rebounds a game . who could stop him if he used his great jumping ability under the rim. he prefers often to play like a puss. a gm who dont gve a crap & a bunch of cheapass owners who dont give a crap.

O'Brien

October 23rd, 2010
11:51 am

Samuel,

Woody had 2 seasons where he led us to the second round, and both times, we got swept. One of those times, we got swept by an NBA record 101 points.

LD hasnt had his chance yet. Will he help us get past the second round? I dont know, but what I do know, is Woody never did. So I will give LD (or whoever our new coach would have been) a chance.

Plus, LD does not have to get to the ECF to be considered an improvement. If we get to the second round, and win one game, isnt that an improvement over Woody?