Atlanta Hawks: Lots of talk about ‘D’ but few results

Since camp opened on Sept. 28 L.D. has laid out some specific defensive goals he wants from the Hawks.:

Get back in transition and then stop the ball and protect the basket.

Defend the pick-and-roll by showing hard with the help.

Block out.

Play with energy.

More than two weeks later, what he’s gotten is players showing “no energy as far as stopping the ball and protecting the basket” in transition, “kind of swiping at the ball from the help position” on pick-and-rolls and not boxing out.

Is L.D. disappointed his preaching hasn’t yet led to results?

“No,” he said. “It has to become habit. Doing it the old way, we could possibly finish somewhere in the middle of the pack defensively. But I am looking beyond that. I think we should be one of the top 10 teams in the league defensively if we make the total commitment of taking care of our responsibilities. That is something I am teaching every day and I am not going to let up.”

So L.D. broke down all those issues during a video session today and said the Hawks then had “one of the better practices with the energy and the responsibilities on the coverages.” It also helped that he had more bodies.

Jamal, Twin, Mo, and Marvin all returned to practice today. Teague (ankle) is still out and may not play Saturday vs. the Hornets in Johnson City, Tenn.

The injuries have nothing to do with effort, of course, but they’ve affected everything else. It’s been tough to get a read on the Hawks because, outside of parts of the first half of the exhibition opener, they’ve had a patchwork group on the court

That’s contributed to the ragged play. It’s also scuttled many of L.D.’s plans like playing Teague with the starters, Al at power forward, and keeping Jordan Crawford at two guard while not playing him crazy minutes.

“That part of it is tough,” L.D. said. “But that’s just the way it is. You have to deal with it. When they [the injured players] get back we’ll spend more teaching them to try to get them caught up.”

There will still be issues when the full group is intact. In addition to facing the tough task of molding this group into the kind of gritty defensive team they’ve never been, L.D. is hamstrung by personnel.

Bibby’s issues with lateral quickness were on full display against Detroit’s Rodney Stuckey and Will Bynum. L.D. didn’t even bother trying him on John Wall.

Sure those are some young, fast guys but the problem for the Hawks is the league has a lot of those. If they can’t somehow find a way to contain ballhandlers on the perimeter it’s hard to see how they can make the defensive leap L.D. is seeking.

That’s why the Hawks need Teague to rise up. Otherwise, L.D.’s other options include letting J.J. spend significant time guarding point guards (which J.J. doesn’t like because he wears down), play Bibby only in lineups that also include Marvin, Josh and Al, or hope Jamal can do better.

The injuries have prevented L.D. from sorting those things out.

“I understand we don’t have guys, but I still want the mindset to be every single night we are going to make it tough for people to score against us,” he said. “I’m looking at transition ‘D,’ I’m looking at how we defend the pick-and-roll, and are we in position when the ball goes up on the glass to rebound. Once we get that part consistent, it becomes habit-forming. I think we have enough to score baskets.”

If not for Teague’s injury, he would have gotten a lot of those minutes JC2 has been playing at point guard.

“It’s frustrating,” Teague said. “I played well in the one game, though we didn’t win. And then I got hurt in practice the next day. But it happens. I’m just glad it’s not worse.”

By the way, L.D. said Jordan Crawford is not a realistic option at point guard, so he’s not in competition with Teague to either back up Bibby or supplant him in the starting lineup.

“I’ve made no bones about it as far as how I see Jeff,” L.D. said. “My expectations for him was to come in and push Mike for the starting role. Jeff has had a good camp and then unfortunately he had the ankle injury.

“I look at Jordan as who he is. He is not a point. He has the ability to play some point but he doesn’t have those natural point-guard instincts. He’s a good passer. That being said, I just view him more as a two than a one.”

Injury report

Teague ran on the treadmill for 19 minutes and said he felt fine but he’s being cautious.

Wally [Blase]told me to take my time and don’t rush it,” he said. “An ankle is nothing to mess with. I don’t want to tweak it and make it worse.”

Jamal said his back is at 75 percent.

“It felt pretty good,” he said. “It’s better and better. The worst is behind me.”

Collins said he might play Saturday.

“I hope so,” he said. “It’s a little sore, which is to be expected on the first day back from a sprain.”

Mo and Marvin should be ready to play Saturday.

Pape Sy (back) is still on the shelf. L.D. said he had no update on his status.

MC

167 comments Add your comment

truly1

October 14th, 2010
6:08 pm

truly1

October 14th, 2010
6:09 pm

nevergot first

Rev in Tampa

October 14th, 2010
6:18 pm

I am glad to see Drew’s mental toughness in the face of adversity. Double-down on the D!

Roland

October 14th, 2010
6:19 pm

Any updates on how Al’s ankle is doing, or possible predictions from him as to when he’ll be ready to give his full effort out there?

Grandad

October 14th, 2010
6:21 pm

Jamal said “his back is at 75 percent The worst is behind me.”

Now that’s funny.

UGA

October 14th, 2010
6:22 pm

Wouldn’t it be smart to bring in another PG? What if this happens during the season? Not that he’s a world beater, but Anthony Johnson was running with them during the offseason and is available…..

tenacious d

October 14th, 2010
6:30 pm

the one good thing about the “stand around and watch Joe go one-on-one” offense from past years is that the other four players had plenty of energy to play good D. The motion O is going to wear everyone out equally so now we can give uo 118 pts a game

Jay

October 14th, 2010
6:43 pm

This is going to end badly.

Jody

October 14th, 2010
6:57 pm

Great info as usual MC. I do agree with Larry Drew’s assessment of Jordan Crawford in that he’s a two guard with really good playmaking and passing ability as oppossed to a point guard. With that being said however, him getting consistent playing time is key in my opinion. The young man has got game and it’s in the Hawks best interest to let him grow and not hold him back.

Rev in Tampa

October 14th, 2010
7:04 pm

Drew has the goal of the Hawks being in the top ten in defense. The biggest hurdle they have to clear to reach this goal is their own mentality. They must learn to love defense. It is evident that the Hawks are weak-minded. (Horrible road record, lazy in transition-D, not fighting through screens). Their bad habits are more than just habits leftover from Woody’s style. Their habits come from softness. But they have the talent to be great.

Hmmm

October 14th, 2010
7:05 pm

I’m not happy with Ld’s assesment of JC2. Does this also mean that JC1 wont see any minutes at the point this year wither? Who will back up Teague? Bibby is finished and is not a viable option at this point. What IS he thinking. Noone saidJC@ had to supplant Teague, just back him up.

i_am_soulstar

October 14th, 2010
7:17 pm

JC2 s a true shooting guard every way imaginable. D. Wade gets it in at 6′3, I’m sure JC2 will do the same with time.

I think they’re playing better safe than sorry with Teague. And I’m glad they are. Our other point guard is his last leg apparently.

jcboyett

October 14th, 2010
7:17 pm

any updates on getting al an extension?

i_am_soulstar

October 14th, 2010
7:36 pm

on his last leg*

Samuel

October 14th, 2010
7:56 pm

After two weeks they still haven’t gotten any better during the preseason. I don’t see it happening during the regular season when they really start playing.
tenacious D,that was the first thing I said when I heard of the new motion offense. You can count on one hand the coaches in the history of the NBA who have made anything similar work. I don’t see a minimum wage “newbee” getting multimillionairs with guaranteed contracts doing all that running. Something has to be sacraficed and it looks like it will be defense.

People here want to blame Bibby for all the defensive problems but I see poor defense from the entire team. Teague may be quicker but i still haven’t seen him stop penetration even when healthy. Plus, our frontline is severly overmatched. Looks like injuries will be the excuse for our backpeddling this year. We will have to fight hard to make the sweet 16 this year i’m mightyfraid.

STEEL(Formerly VenomSpitter)

October 14th, 2010
8:08 pm

Samuel here’s Woodys Penis:

->

Get ya grub on

Astro Joe

October 14th, 2010
8:13 pm

Enter your comments hereyess this means that Drew sees some natural PG instincts in Teague. Good to hear that guys are on the mend… let’s not rush anyone back into these pre-season games though.

MC, please remind me, did Pape Sy arrive in Atlanta hurt? Is there any reason to question the due diligence of signing this guy prior to a full examination?

Astro Joe

October 14th, 2010
8:15 pm

Wow, rookie mistake. That first part should read, I guess this means that Drew sees some natural PG instincts in Teague.

KevinM

October 14th, 2010
8:30 pm

“I look at Jordan as who he is. He is not a point” – LD….Something I said earlier this season, and JC2 was forced into the role because of no help behind him.

Thanks, MC. This is a good time to emphasize that so far, the preseason hasn’t met the expectations of the coach. There’s nothing wrong with that, but there are enough guys who played against Washington who should have been comfortable to not make it look like a makeshift team out there.
As for the D, Joe sure might not have a choice but to work harder on the defensive end night end and night out and defer some of the offense. I see Marvin in the same situation. These 2 have to lead the defense or there will be many games where the Hawks get behind early. Bibby might be the biggest downturn heading into the season, and he still might get the starting nod.

Notes on the Wizards after watching them play the Wizards…I see no reason why they don’t have a shot to make some noise this season, especially if they can get some value for Gilbert, because it doesn’t look like they are going to promote him with this youth movement. And their offense looked much better than ours, handing out 27 assists. That is what a functioning motion offense is doing for them. And Sam Cassell teaching Wall sure doesn’t hurt either.

Michael Cunningham

October 14th, 2010
8:34 pm

@Roland: “Any updates on how Al’s ankle is doing, or possible predictions from him as to when he’ll be ready to give his full effort out there?”

the ankle is not 100 pct. the plan is to bring it along slowly so there are no setbacks and he will be ready to start the season.

Michael Cunningham

October 14th, 2010
8:39 pm

@AJ: “MC, please remind me, did Pape Sy arrive in Atlanta hurt? Is there any reason to question the due diligence of signing this guy prior to a full examination?”

Sy said the back tightened up during a workout five days prior to camp. i’m surprised he’s been out this long but not sure that means they didn’t give him a thorough exam.

Ken Strickland

October 14th, 2010
8:47 pm

It amazes me to see certain WOODY LOVERS thumping their chests and claiming they are the only ones who know anything about basketball. While at the same time, they’re boasting that any and everything they say, think, or feel about basketball is THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, WOW!

Now here’s where they lose me when it comes to their feable attempts to employ logic and common sense to their special brand of BS.

1-They both feel the Hawks would be much better off if Woodson had been retained. Chances are we’d still likely have the same core players we have now, and the Eastern Conference be just as improved? So COMMON SENSE begs me to ask, how in the hell can anyone with an actual IQ think Woodson could do more than Drew, especially in the playoffs, under the same circumstances, and with basically the same team, when he failed so miserably last yr? DUH!
2-One has even labeled LDrew WOODY LITE. Well, COMMON SENSE begs me to ask, if Woodson was so doggone great in your opinion, shouldn’t you be pleased they replaced him with an assistant that you feel is a replica of your beloved Woody, rather than having a disdain for him? DUH!

This is P-R-E-S-E-A-S-O-N, and the fact we’re 0-3 and playing poorly overall means very little in the overall context of things, and here’s why:

1-COMMON SENSE should tell you that any team that’s missing 6(ONE HALF) of the players that will make up the 12 man active roster, will likely play poorly.
2-COMMON SENSE should also tell you that if 2 or those 6 are starters(SF MWilliams & PG JTeague), and 2 of the 3 remaining starters(C AHorford & PF JSmith) are less than 100% and nursing injuries, but are playing because the team is shorthanded, the team will likely play poorly.
3-COMMON SENSE should also tell you that when new OFF’s and DEF’s are being installed, and the situation in #2 prevents key players from participating fully, the team will likely play poorly.
4-When your teams 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th leading scorers are missing or playing injured, the team will likely play poorly.
5-If the injured and missing starters did play, and play together, and both the OFF and the players performed very well, why think the team will do worse when the season starts, the players are healthy, excited, motivated, and the roster and rotations are set?

Wouldn’t COMMON SENSE tell you that anyone who knows, or thinks he knows more about basketball than anyone else would have enough sense to know these things already, and would have factored them into their special brand of BS?

Oh well, just food for thought.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
8:58 pm

Bits & Pieces!

This team has so many bits and pieces. But, not one single
player is in their natural position.

Last season, Mr. Johnson called this team scrappy!
Nothing has changed.

We are still trying to figure out WHO is WHAT.
This makes me want to go looking for that old ….

You old bloggers guessed it right!

My Razor Sharp Cheetah Thong:
That old nasty thing is crusty, old and packed away, but, if
the Hawks revert back to the same old excuses of 5 years ago?

I will have no choice but to pull that old THONG out and start
gun-slinging it! The old re-building Hawks made my azz
uncomfortable when I sat to watch these BS ball games!

That thing went out with the performer – Cisco!
The last time he sang a HIT SONG?
It was the Thong-Song, right around the time the Hawks were
at a 13 Game winning clip! Now, I’m not saying we revert
that far backwards. But, if Teague can only give 19 minutes
on a tread-mill, then the Hawks will be on that tread-mill
too. Playing great defense about 19 minutes per game!

Child Please!

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
9:02 pm

Build It! – They will come.

Aye Sund! Build your Effin’ Team!
Find this core some damned Help!

This Town … This City … These Fans? Deserve a Winner!
We don’t need these Losers!

No more excuses!

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
9:04 pm

Habitat for Humanity!

PG
Center

13 Years and … Still Effin’ Waiting?
Where is the Humanity in that?

Marvin@ the Point??

October 14th, 2010
9:06 pm

LD is drinking on the job. Josh can play with 3 fingers stiched together but other guys are sitting for a sore this and a tight that. Yeah this needs a good spin.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
9:09 pm

Chiropractor in the House!

Pape Sy needs a SPINAL CORRECTION!
Is there a Chiropractor on this Staff?

I know an excellent one!
Call your Girl – Dr. Mary E. Burton … Google That!

Damn!

Dept. of Unintended Irony

October 14th, 2010
9:22 pm

“I don’t see a minimum wage “newbee” getting multimillionairs with guaranteed contracts doing all that running. Something has to be sacraficed and it looks like it will be defense.”

Either that or spelling.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
9:23 pm

Don’t Tell Me!

IF:

1. Teague turns his ankle in the regular season or play-offs?
We can play:

JJ, Jamal, Jordan or Bibby @ PG and still maintain!

2. Al turns his ankle (his only repeated injuries) during the regular season and play-offs?

We can play:

Zsa, Collins, Etan at C and still maintain.

Go get Daimpeer now!
We already passed on any other options.

I guess when the injuries come and really count, we will go
to the D-League and string together some 10 day contracts.
Is that our plan B?

I better go grease that Thong up.
I’m not being negative – just pragmatic.

My Mamma always told me to stash $100.00 in my junk drawer
for a – rainy day! Why? Because the Sun don’t shine up your
azz everyday! Count on it!

northcyde

October 14th, 2010
9:29 pm

It’s like I said in the last blog. Drew seems to be almost afraid to let Jordan completely do his thing, because he and everyone else believes in Teague.

So if Jordan isn’t a realistic option at PG, ( which on this team, is crazy to say, imo ) it means that he’ll have a hard time getting on the court. Mo Evans is going to have to play like garbage, for Jordan to see the floor. If not, Drew will opt to go with Mo.

Get used to seeing the kid, because you may not see him 2 weeks from now when the real games start.

I think it’s hilarious for Drew to believe in Teague that much, but almost hold in praise for Jordan.

One needs a “dog trainer” ( Van Exel ) to turn him into a big dog.

The other already shows signs of being a big dog, but the owner plans to put him in a cage and strap a big chain around his neck to subdue him.

richbrave

October 14th, 2010
9:38 pm

Groovin’ down the ‘AVENUE’ with PAUL TAYLOR. Little smooth jazz tonight.

Relax HAWKSTERS. If you din’t notice, neither side played the ‘D’ in D.C. the other night. It was pretty much a track meet with the local heros showing off for the VERY few fans who bothered. I understand tix and merchandise sales are WAY down in the Phone-Booth. WIZARDS needed this one bad to begin rebuilding disaffected fans, and just put in more effort, but in my estimation what you see now is what you get in the regular season. I don’r see the WIZ improving much once the light’s go on. I certainly don’t feel that way about the HAWKS. Seen the same basic playa’s turn up the heat, and play with gusto when the game’s for all the marbles. So lighten up folks, it’s the pre-season.

Sautee

October 14th, 2010
9:42 pm

northcyde,

How do you “know” just what plans LD has for JC2?

For all we know he could be thinking of throwing him out there BEFORE Mo.

After all, Mo has an expiring contract. If JC2 shows enough, Mo could go for a backup SF, and at any rate JJ WILL play 3 some this year.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
9:44 pm

As Good as it Gets!

This team was good enough to go out and get role player!
We needed/need specialists:

Defensive Stoppers on the Perimeter:

Tony Allen
Matt Barnes
Raja Bell
Ron Artest
Etc.

Defensive Stoppers in the Paint:

Shaq
Dampieer
Etc

Point Guard:

Collinson
Devin Harris
Royal Ivey
Help me out here?
Etc

Those three simple, non flashy, simple moves?
Would have improves this team greatly.

Thomas Dimitroff was ridiculed for all the “who dat?”
picks he made in the NFL Draft last season, but look at
his defense now? Leading the NFL in take-aways!

Corey Peters
And a list of back-ups that I can’t recall right now, special
team players from small schools! He has built a perennial team
that will compete year in and out for many years to come.
He has made NO excuses, he just did his job!

The Hawks and Sund did Nothing!
They like their Effin’ core?
That core got blown outa’ the play-offs last season!

northcyde

October 14th, 2010
9:45 pm

I don’t want to get MC in trouble with Drew . . . but I bet if MC went up to Jordan tomorrow and asked . . .

“Do you think you can play PG on the NBA level?”

Jordan wouldn’t even hesitate to say yes, even if his best position is the 2.

Even if Teague is the best option at the point, how in the world is Jordan excluded from playing the position, when Bibby and Jamal ( two guys who are more like SGs themselves ) are the only ones left to play it?

LOL . . Jordan can’t play the point, but Smoove will get work at the 3?

Doesn’t make sense coach.

richbrave

October 14th, 2010
9:46 pm

Damn, mellow tonight. A bit of VIRGINIA GENTLEMAN, sweet vermouth, cherry bitters, shaken not stirred, ice on the side, does wonders for the old constitution. I say I’d been puffin’ some serious weed if I didn’t know better. Bein’ high on life if too cool man. Ya’ll enjoy your lives, and don’t go trippin’ on the HAWKS ya’ he-yah! They gonna’ pull the rabbit out of the hat have no fear.

O'Brien

October 14th, 2010
9:58 pm

“If they can’t somehow find a way to contain ballhandlers on the perimeter it’s hard to see how they can make the defensive leap L.D. is seeking.” MC .

Thanks MC. But yet some fans last year continued to criticize Josh and Al for poor defense in the paint, but would not acknowledge the fact that defense starts on the perimeter.

O'Brien

October 14th, 2010
9:59 pm

northcyde, ,

I dont see how LD is holding in praise for Jordan. He likes him as a SG, which is what he has always been projected to be. And like you said, with JJ and Jamal on board, where is Jordan going to get the minutes anyway?

Whereas we need Teague to step, we dont need as much from Jordan. If they wanted Jordan to get more PT, then Jamal should have been traded.

And of course Jordan will say he can play the point. I bet Josh would say he can play PG (dude averages 4 or 5 assists per game). I’m sure Mo has said he can play SF (although we know the results are not there).

Plus regardless of what LD says, I think if Teague and/or Bibby struggles, Jordan will see time at the point. Even Woody played JJ and Jamal minutes at PG.

O'Brien

October 14th, 2010
9:59 pm

Samuel, ,

Isnt the Lakers 1-2 in the preseason? Isnt Kobe struggling? Maybe we should write them off.

I understand your skepticism, but why not give the LD and the team a chance to see what they look like after the first 20 games?

Its like your judging them already based on preseason games, despite the fact that so many of their starters have been injured, and they are learning a completely different system after playing in Woody’s (your COY) system.

Although Woody’s system is one of the reasons why they got beat down by Orlando, losing by an average of 25 ppg.

richbrave

October 14th, 2010
10:02 pm

HA,HA. ARENAS played three minutes and pulled a groin. That’s what lying about an injury gets you.Now everybody’s wondering….. ‘Is it real or is it memorex?’ Ya’ll think the HAWKS are bad? PLUEEZE.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
10:07 pm

Aye Bartender! – Another Round!

RichBrave … Put that next round on your tab!

Man, I’m P.O. tonite! As if you couldn’t tell?
Rich, I’m just tired of all the excuses made for these players.
I know … I know … BBall is for entertainment purposes, but:

We need a Winner – In this town!
We deserve better!

It just hit me from reading ALL the excuses in MC’s team qoutes?

We don’t have a Plan B!
Are we gonna play these same back-ups if our starters wear down
in the rugged offense and defense?

We were not injured from standing around and watching Joe
and Jamal last season. But, if we are all moving in motion
and playing man-to-man defense this year and playing Pat Riley
practices? There will be a ton of injuries this year and I don’t
trust any of our back ups. I keep hearing Joe can play PG and
SF, Josh can play some SF, Maurice is too small to play SF -
but he can slide between SG and SF, Jordan can’t back up at PG
but he can play SG, Jamal is sulking, but if he is still here? Jamal
can play some PG and SG …. And, And, And … I haven’t even
got to the Post yet!

We need a Effin’ real team to roll out there!
One where everyone knows their roles!

Don’t get me started on Marvin and Twin.
Al says he’s a natural PF …. Blah … Blah… Nah!

I’m done for now!
I need a drink!

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
10:15 pm

“Isnt the Lakers 1-2 in the preseason? Isnt Kobe struggling? Maybe we should write them off.”

Are you kiddin’ me?
Are you really gonna’ compare this team to the Championship
Lakers at this point?

That team is soundly built, with no questions about who’s
what !!!!!!

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
10:21 pm

I need one of them Najeh posts to calm me down!

I just realized – I don’t like any of our back-ups and ALL of the starters
playing three different positions!

truly1

October 14th, 2010
10:24 pm

northcyde Everything is going to be okay. LD will put JC2 at point guard if he gets in a crunch you know how I know because he just did it. I dont want anybody starting at the point guard position that is going to come down and shoot without thinking about passing first. Like he did in the first game. But lets just see him develop we have alot of players that can shoot first chance they get the first being JC1. I will take JC1 over JC2 in that department this year. nextyear not at all. Lets let him grow for 1 year the hawks didnt draft him to play now. Maybe they can find someone in a trade for JC1 then JC2 will get all those minutes

Grandad

October 14th, 2010
10:26 pm

Samuel

You do realize that the “Triangle” is a form of motion offense
don’t you? The most significant difference is screening.
However, both are team oriented offense based on player and
ball movement with an emphasis on the ball changing side of
the floor.
The “Princeton” or Bob Knights old “Passing Game” are all
derivatives of some style of motion, as is the triangle.

“You can count on one hand the coaches in the history of the NBA
who have made anything similar work.” -Samuel- @ 7:56 pm

Red Auerbach & Phil Jackson;
RA ran a 5 man weave motion offense and PJ has made exclusive use
of the “Triangle”. Shall I contiue or is listing the two all-time
winner’s of championships good enough.

Samuel,
I have no quarrel with you, but perhaps you need to grasp the
concept then master the components of any circunstance before
disposing of it so easily.

richbrave

October 14th, 2010
10:31 pm

drmaryb:

Chill girl. I don’t think things are on the upswing like in prior years, but the team does have experience which they had little of when we first started dating. So DREW gets his players back and pulls together a decent ‘D’ which is effective. I think you’re hearing the pre-season applause in MIAMI and ORLANDO. They got to floor ten good’uns just like us in the end. Just call me ALFRED E. NEUMANN because I’m ‘MAD’ about the HAWKS.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
10:34 pm

Grand-Daddy!

I missed your call today, I was in CE Seminars all day.
Call my cellie @ 404 tomorow or tonight.

G-Daddy, help me out here.

What are we gonna do if the injuries come during the
regular and post season?

Do you trust our back-ups at PG & C?

drmaryb (*_*)

October 14th, 2010
10:36 pm

RichBrave

Thank You – Lover Man!

niremetal

October 14th, 2010
10:37 pm

O’Brien on a roll. But Dept of Unintended Irony wins the green jersey for the day.

Grandad

October 14th, 2010
10:42 pm

nc

JC2 is NOT a pg.

Can’t you comprehend that fact.

The young man is a”"”Shoooter”"”a gunner, a gunslinger.
He’s also more scorer than a pure shooter if you understand the dif.

Surely you can accept the difference between a nat pg & a nat 2g.

why are you being so surly about this.

northcyde

October 14th, 2010
10:45 pm

O’Brien . . . he’s been doing it all summer.

During summer league, there was talk about controlling his shot selection. That’s fine. But if he can make those shots, why suppress that ability?

Even before the Detroit game, Drew said something along the lines of “letting him get it out of his system”, referring to his shoot first nature. And how did Jordan respond to the assertion that Drew was expecting him to put up shots?

( paraphrasing ) “He didn’t have to tell me. I already knew.”

Jordan is a “baller” . . . . a phrase that I refused to use to describe Teague last year.

I just don’t want Drew saying what the kid “can’t do”, when it’s obvious that if push came to shove, he COULD do it. Jordan has an “it” factor to him that we can’t even say about Marvin Williams, let alone Teague. And that’s not a diss to Teague, because I do think Teague can be a adequate to good PG in this league.

But Jordan is a baller in the same mold that our “dog trainer” Nick Van Exel was in his youth. Different styles of play, but the same tenacity and fearlessness.

I don’t know why that statement by Drew bugs me so much, but it did. Jordan has all the intangibles to be a combo guard, just like Jamal, Stuckey, Foye, and Lou Williams. No way you limit him to just being a 2. Not on this team, with a 3rd team All-NBA player and the 6MOY who also plays the 2.

You don’t keep ballers off the floor. You let them ball. That’s why both Flip Murray and Jamal took minutes from Marvin and Bibby.

They were ballin.

On this team, Drew should just leave all options open.