Atlanta Hawks: Wizards 107, Hawks 92

JaVale Mc Gee (16 points, 11 boards in 24 minutes) took advantage of Atlanta's weak D. (AP Photo)

JaVale Mc Gee (16 points, 11 boards in 24 minutes) took advantage of Atlanta's weak D. (AP Photo)

Washington– You can go down the list of excuses for Atlanta’s atrocious defense: short roster, tired bodies, back-to-back, preseason.

Al was offered all those outs but he wouldn’t take them: “There’s no excuse. I think we have a long way to go as far as defense if we are going to be an elite team.”

– The Hawks lacked energy and Smoove was the only consistent deterrent at the rim against Washington’s bigs. Al said the Hawks also lack something else: “It’s going to take time for us to trust each other. We’ve been playing together for a few years but when things break down, the next guy isn’t there.”

– The Hawks were slow to get out on shooters. They didn’t fight hard through picks. They gave up too many free runs at the rim. “The defense was not very good at all,” L.D. said. “There energy wasn’t there, the intensity wasn’t there.”

– L.D. didn’t like the 16 turnovers, either. The Hawks forced passes in the offense in the first game, got sloppy in transition last night and this time did both.

– Former AJC Hawks beat guy and current Washington Post scribe Michael Lee came up to me during the second half and said: “I’m sold on Jordan Crawford.”

– It’s not hard to see why. The Hawks play faster with Crawford at the point. He never stops coming, he’s confident and he’s skilled. And he tends to look the same no matter who he’s playing with.

– Crawford needs polish but the raw material looks promising. He’s a dynamic player who can get into the lane and make something happen once he’s there. He’s also a rookie, which means he sometimes immediately follows a very good play (drive-and-dish to Powell for a layup) with a bad one (forced runner early in the shot clock).

— “He’s a true competitor,” L.D. said. “He has a big heart. At times he gets blinded by wanting to get the shot up but I like his competitive spirit. We will continue to nurture him along.”

– JC2 poured in 30 points, distributed the ball well and went 47 minutes after playing 46 at Washington. He looked spent by the end of the third quarter tonight but he kept going. “I’m beat up a little bit,” he said. “But it’s fun. I’m the new guy on the team and the preseason is for me. Coach is letting me play a lot of minutes and giving me freedom”

– For a while in the second half it looked like Crawford and John Wall were trying to outdo one another. Did Crawford have extra juice facing the No. 1 pick? “Not really. He’s a good player and you want to play against the best, but it’s not like I was sitting in my room thinking, ‘I’m going against John Wall.’”

Joe continued his hot play from the second quarter last night. In the first six minutes of the game he made his first four shots, had an assist and nearly got a steal. It was one of those games where he made scoring appear effortless. You can see him getting his game in shape and building up to the opener.

– It’s the preseason and he’s got stitches in his right hand but Smoove is playing hard. He thwarted a Wizards fastbreak in the first quarter by going low to strip Nick Young, diving to the floor to take the ball away, and then hitting Bibby in stride. The play led to Al drawing a foul at the basket and fired up the the Hawks bench.

– Al, Josh and Joe went to the bench early for Zaza,Powell and Brock. That’s when the game got away from the Hawks. Zaza and Powell had trouble with the tandem of Yi and JaVale McGee. This would have been a good time to at least see what the new-look Twin can do.

– Zaza gave what he got, too. He left McGee checking his nose for blood after a head-to-face collision in the first half, then cleared McGee out with a shoulder to score in the second half.

– This was to be the first home game for Arenas since he was suspended due to gun charges last season but he was a late scratch with a knee injury. Or at least that’s what the Wizards announced.

– After the game, Arenas told reporters he bowed out for Young: “I told him I’d go ahead and fake an injury or say something is wrong with me so you can start.” Michael Lee says Arenas wasn’t joking.

– Tomorrow the Hawks will enjoy their first true off day since camp. “Man, I am so excited,” Smoove said. “I can’t want to go to sleep.”

– “I’ve got some guys banged up, I’ve got some guys tired,” L.D. said. “I’m not going to run them into the ground so we will have a day off. But when we get together Thursday we are going to watch a lot of defensive clips.”

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

226 comments Add your comment

Jesse

October 12th, 2010
10:45 pm

If JC2 is playing this well, it means JC1 is on the way out via trade…..

jgsbrids

October 12th, 2010
10:58 pm

i watched this debacle from 34-32 in the second quarter and it wasn’t pretty at all. same old hawks–not rebounding–too many turnovers–no offensive rebounds–no sense of urgency once down. they never made a run to cut the lead from 20 to less than 10. i truly am about over them–i’ve rooted for the hawks since the early 80’s–but this team or coach showed me anything to give me hope for the upcoming season. new offense was a joke! all this physical play i’m hearing sure wasn’t there tonight and from what i saw–looked like only a couple maybe three set plays were run all night. give me a break! i truly wanted woody gone–but if the three quarters i watched tonight are any indication what drew brings to this team–count me down for not sold at all.

fanATicaL

October 12th, 2010
11:11 pm

If JC1 is out then can I have Carmello Anthony ? Although Im not against Chris Paul as the acqusition.Surely if there is anyone who could drive this new motion offense.Chris could do it

Big Ray

October 12th, 2010
11:15 pm

The part that continues to bug me is how we get when the starters go out. Zaza and Powell go out, and the Wiz get busy down low. Not good. Not good at all. And if Twin and Etan can’t do significantly better, then guess what? We’re screwed, because A) Injuries happen to starters too, and B) We don’t want to have to employ Al and Josh for 45 mpg.

Kudos to Al Horford for not taking the easy way out on the team’s defensive effort and calling it like it is. However, that won’t help our team defense out one single bit. It still has to get done on the floor, during game time. Could be a very long season, otherwise.

Section 303

October 12th, 2010
11:16 pm

I watched this one. It was not pretty. After the 1st quarter, the Hawks were pretty much awful.

Jordan Crawford was great. He hit some tough shots, including a deep three right at the first half buzzer. Like Michael said, it was easy to see he was gassed late in the 3rd. He kept fighting, though. I was glad to see that.

Zaza and Josh Smith played well. So did Joe, but Joe can go F himself. I still have no love for the guy.

Wondering….if Jordan Crawford keeps lighting things up, will Sund reconsider trading Jamal Crawford? The two guys are basically the same player. Why keep Jamal around, if Jordan can do a lot of the same things? Especially, when the Hawks clearly need some help at the defensive end.

darrell starks

October 12th, 2010
11:26 pm

The hawks will be expose bad this year, with the lack of coaching and not adjusting 2 certain situation this team will be underachieve by chamber of commerce.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 12th, 2010
11:28 pm

This is what happen when you bring scrubbs 2 your team, etan is a cool guy but he will not make the team.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 12th, 2010
11:33 pm

LD need 2 forget about this gimmick offense and get this team mentally prepared on defense, this is the hawks bread and butter is tough defense not this motion offense and stuff what a joke.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 12th, 2010
11:35 pm

DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Clyde

October 12th, 2010
11:35 pm

Still having trouble with the defense.

Publix

October 12th, 2010
11:43 pm

WHERE IS EVERYONE NOW???? I have been saying for months that we should have traded for McGhee or Hibbert. Both of them will be All Stars by the end of next season, watch!!!

As I said before I would have given JJ for McGhee, but at this point, give them JC2 and Zaza. That way they can trade Arenas for another C.

WE NEED EITHER A Center or SF!!!

It’s probably too late to get either of the two C’s I’ve mentioned.

Go for Bibby and Zaza to GS for Biedrins.
JC1 to Indiana for Dunleavy and Posey.

Publix

October 12th, 2010
11:47 pm

PG-Teague/JC2
SG-JJ/Dunleavy
SF-Williams/Posey
PF-Smith/Thomas
C-Horford/Biedrins

Take the rest and send it to China as far as I’m concerned

darrell starks

October 12th, 2010
11:54 pm

Publix i like the bibby and zaza for biedrins, but im not sold on the dunleavy and posey for jamal.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

truthspitter

October 13th, 2010
12:00 am

Publix: I have been screaming for Biedrins all summer. Don’t worry they will do something by all-star break when we are 15-30

northcyde

October 13th, 2010
12:05 am

I’m glad that Drew is concerned about the defense, despite us being shorthanded . . . unlike 75% of the fan base, who are using “it’s just the preseason” excuse.

In preseason, I want to see individual guys do what they do best, or doing what they were brought in to do. If they’re not doing it, then they’re having a bad preseason. If they are, then everything’s all good. Wins and losses doesn’t matter to me as much as how individuals are playing.

So which guys are doing what they’re known for, and which guys aren’t?

It’s going to be interesting to see what Drew does, if he finds out that his team just isn’t a good “on the ball” defensive team. Because that IS a distinct possibility. At that point, what adjustments ( if any ) will Drew make?

By this time next week, I wonder if it will be “just preseason”, when MIA and ORL roll into town?

darrell starks

October 13th, 2010
12:11 am

Publix what about zaza, bibby and a 1st for biedrins.
STARTER TEAGUE, JOE, MARVIN, JOSH, HORFORD.
BENCH JAMAL, JC2, MOE, POWEL, BIEDRINS
RESERVE COLLINS, PAPE
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big Ray

October 13th, 2010
12:15 am

LOL@ Section 303 . Playa, you still mad at Joe?

I’ve noticed that “it’s just preseason” works both ways. When the team doesn’t do well, “it’s just preaseason.” If the team DOES do well, “it’s just preseason.” When a rookie does well, “it’s just preaseason.” When JJ turns the ball over like he doesn’t want it, “it’s just preseason.”

I guess it means what you want it to mean.

bubbamumf13

October 13th, 2010
12:19 am

MC, which starters do you think have come into camp focused and ready to prove something? Is josh doing this? I think the sky is the limt for him if he becomes more mature and focused. He’s only 24 and is still young.

Big Ray

October 13th, 2010
12:19 am

In preseason, I want to see individual guys do what they do best, or doing what they were brought in to do. If they’re not doing it, then they’re having a bad preseason. If they are, then everything’s all good. Wins and losses doesn’t matter to me as much as how individuals are playing.

With several guys out with injury, the only bright light on the court is Jordan Crawford. And people can talk all they want about how dude is getting inflated minutes in a “it’s just preseason” game. What I see along with those inflated minutes are high scoring and fairly low turnovers. And a lot of heart and effort.

Etan Thomas, Twin, and Josh Powell ain’t showing me much. Powell is rebounding ok, but that’s about it. I sure wouldn’t mind having Dampier, as unlikely as that is.

I wonder if Sund will or is shopping JC1?

Oh I forgot…Zaza is doing decently. He’s being physical. Wait, I thought we brought Etan in for that?

Big Ray

October 13th, 2010
12:20 am

Here we go again with the trade proposals. LOL.

gcs

October 13th, 2010
12:20 am

Sorry hawks fans. They peaked last year. it is all downhill from here.

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MsDee

October 13th, 2010
12:20 am

FROM PREVIOUS BLOG:

Well, after taking some time after this 3rd pre-season game, I came up with an observation: Now again, this is MY OBSERVATION, NOTHING FACTUAL SO DONT BITE OFF MY HEAD ABOUT MY OBSERVATION.

Some on here may find it very difficult to watch these games due to the fact that we have several missing KEY players, boring invitees that will NEVER make a squad, and a new OFFense with very limited impressive DEFense. Now I need to correct my last post stating that we have yet to play with all our players, because that was false. Our 1st pre-season game was of course our best so far because we DID have all our key players that day. And if yall forgotten, we built a 20+ pt lead with that full squad and look DANG(I dont curse) good doing it. Now, this is where my observation comes in. Once LD saw what he needed to see with the full crew and the offense take control, he NEVERED PUT THE SAME CREW BACK IN. It cost us the lead but he didnt care cause again, THIS IS JUST PRE-SEASON. Now here is my reason for this…remember how ALL OFF-SEASON, LD could talk about nothing but HIS NEW OFFENSE he has in store for the Hawks. The whole NBA world heard about this new offense as well. I’m sure they were wanting to see this new offense displayed during the pre-season period, to get an idea how to stop it, but what a smart move for LD to not display it any further once he saw what he needed to see early on in the 1st quarter of the 1st game. Now further with my observation, mysterious illness and ankle injuries starts to creep apond us like crazy. Teague nor Marvin, both of which had TERRIFIC games, can make these next 2 games, thus allowing LD to display a star in action with Jordan Crawford! Had Teague traveled, LD would have been obligated to play him, but sense he didnt make the trip, impossible to play him! If this is indeed factual, I can further live with these boring pre-season games just to look forward to the REAL DEAL!

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS MY OBSERVATION OF THE PRE-SEASON THUS FAR, SO DONT BITE MY HEAD OFF IF YOU DONT AGREE NOR BELIEVE ANY OF IT!! THANX IN ADVANCE!!

northcyde

October 13th, 2010
12:23 am

Jordan Crawford in the last 2 games

50 pts ( 25 ppg )
12 assts ( 6 apg )
20 – 37 FG ( 54% FG )
50+ minutes

(( standing ovation ))

That a way to take advantage of all of that playing time. And I liked what MC said . . . “he didn’t look any different, regardless of who he was playing with”.

That’s the kind of bench player we need. A guy who will play his game at a high level, regardless of what starter or scrub he’s playing with. There are about 6 or 7 guys on this team who can’t say that.

northcyde

October 13th, 2010
12:29 am

LOL . . . I meant 90+ minutes, not 50.

Ish, if he were scoring at that clip, we’d have to start him immediately. Still a nice steady output by Jordan in the last 2 games.

cp

October 13th, 2010
12:32 am

Big Ray I commented at half time that the Hawks should be on the phone with Dampier trying to get him in here. I didn’t like the Thomas and Collins signing when they were announced and I still don’t like them. Its mind boggling to me that our front office would sign two guys who have been pretty much useless for the last 4 years and expect them to some how start producing. There were some better options available and Sund went with the family dollar bargains. I though Dampier and Boone were the way to go.

Big Ray

October 13th, 2010
12:42 am

cp ,

I like Josh Boone. I don’t know what happened with Dampier, but like somebody else said, I’d be willing to bet that if things fell through, we still could have had Etan or Jason Collins without a problem. Even if we didn’t sign them until TODAY.

Jordan Crawford is most certainly a player.

Northcyde , no doubts about him being a baller, eh? LOL. Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Dominique Watkins

October 13th, 2010
1:53 am

Hey Michael can you post a legend or a Key beside your article because I’m having a hard time trying to figure out all these nicknames like Twin JC1 JC2 Smoove LD I assume is Larry Drew. Maybe it’s me but trying to keep up with all these nicknames is confusing. Guess i’ve been out of the loop too long

Clyde

October 13th, 2010
2:02 am

Where was Horford when the Wizards were attacking the basket

Najeh Davenpoop

October 13th, 2010
2:29 am

It’s just preseason.

Najeh Davenpoop

October 13th, 2010
2:35 am

“In preseason, I want to see individual guys do what they do best, or doing what they were brought in to do. If they’re not doing it, then they’re having a bad preseason. If they are, then everything’s all good. ”

We already know Joe, Josh, and Al are going to get theirs. I haven’t seen a preseason game yet so I don’t know how much, if any, any of their games have improved — all I can go by is the box score and the highlight clips on NBA.com. But they have shown they can produce at an All-Star or near All-Star level, so I’m not too concerned, although I hope Smoove and Al have gotten better at scoring in the post.

Beyond them, I think most of us (well, me anyway) expect Teague and Jordan to play well while Marvin, Mo, Zaza, and the treasure trove of turds the Hawks call backup big men continue to do nothing. So far, Jordan has been stellar, Teague was good in his one game, Marvin was better than usual in his one game, and as far as I can tell none of the backup big men have done anything to inspire confidence (although apparently Zaza has been getting physical, which is good). So I’d say things are going just as expected.

The important thing about this preseason to me is not individual performances. It’s how well the team buys in to Drew’s offensive and defensive philosophies, and how well they can fine tune their execution before the season starts.

Senator Blutarski

October 13th, 2010
2:45 am

It’s just preseason…but I’m already interested in the Hawks. Jordan Crawford does seem to have a lot of potential. Sounds like it’s not a bad idea to let them have a complete day off to recharge and regroup.

TheAntiMe

October 13th, 2010
3:25 am

As far as the defense, or lack thereof, goes it seems to be the same old Hawks: You didn’t give me help on my man last time down so now you’re on your own against your man. This really has to change or the Hawks will continue to get lit-up like a wino with a brand new bottle of Mad Dog 20-20. (lol – Do they even make that stuff anymore? I wouldn’t know because I’m a confirmed vodkaholic. :P )

One very encouraging thing to me about Larry Drew is that he is very commited to getting the young guys the PT they need to develop into productive players for the Hawks. It’s a real shame that his predecessor lacked that same mindset and now Jeff Teague is probably only 33% to 50% as far along as an experienced player as he really should be at this point in time.

Ban the Troll Please

October 13th, 2010
4:53 am

Truth ser um

October 13th, 2010
1:40 am
This team would be better, considerably if M. Woodson was here. Wed have hope instead of tolerance.

This team is a shoe in for the lottery in 3 years

Ok hate-ing ham get on your job and open a can of hate!

TROLL ALERT

ABsoluteLY

October 13th, 2010
4:55 am

One very encouraging thing to me about Larry Drew is that he is very commited to getting the young guys the PT they need to develop into productive players for the Hawks. It’s a real shame that his predecessor lacked that same mindset and now Jeff Teague is probably only 33% to 50% as far along as an experienced player as he really should be at this point in time.

VERY good POINT.

truthspitter

October 13th, 2010
4:58 am

I can remember last year all the negative BS about Woody and I never ever was a part of the Woody bashing because I could see what only basketball minds could and can see. Woody did the best with what he was given to work with. On the other hand, Drew is trying to make the team play the way he wants instead of what is best for them and it is showing and will continue to show on defense mainly.

Last year the switching defense was smart and made sense because we dictated the action. Yes, when a big switch on a guard the guard would always try to take the big off the dribble or just simply get space and shoot a jump shot. This year on defense we are not the ones dictating things. We are simply being manhandled on the perimeter and down low because now it is even more obvious that Al and Josh are undersized. We hardly ever doubled last year but this year we will have to to compensate for Al and Josh being too small. As for the offense, seriously after watching tonights game it is not for the Hawks because the offense is very easy but these guys are just not intelligent enough to run it. When someone is overplaying the passing lanes go backdoor and set screens for the guy to go backdoor then popout and get the ball. We ran flex in high school and this offense has some flex principles but this team just does not get it, they continue to force passes. When they finally do get it it will be too late. We have a somewhat easy starting schedule but we will not get off to a slow start because of all these new schemes and lifelong backup coach as a starter.

ABsoluteLY

October 13th, 2010
5:00 am

yep, the problem with the hawks isnt gimick offense they were very good offensively last year but very weak defensively.

THAT IS right. WHICH IS why the former coach is now just that – the former coach. THE PROBLEM IS bringing in cheap big men to back up the excellent STARTING big men we have. WHEN THEY LEAVE THE game, the backups cannot do THE JOB RIGHT AND THEN we have problems DEFENDING.

Trent

October 13th, 2010
5:03 am

Honestly, people, I think it’s a bit soon to start complaining again. As I have said numerous times before, you can’t pull a great deal of information from these preseason games considering the cirumstances (limited number of rotation players, injuries, etc.). We won’t truly know how effective the Hawks are as a team in Drew’s new system until we are able to see the actual roster, with all starters intact, play a regular season game that actually counts. When the team is playing to win, and not just going through the motions like most veterans do during preseason, and guys are actually playing their true rotational minutes, we will be able to start making meaningful judgments of the effectiveness of the team. Before then, it’s essentially a lot of brainstorming. Injuries to starters and 6 missing rotational players are going to result in a significantly different team on the floor, so I wouldn’t pay a ton of attention to these games, other than maybe to get a sneak peak at some of Drew’s offensive sets.

On another note, everyone has noticed how impressive Jordan Crawford has been in the last couple of games, and he may truly end up being the diamond in the rough of the draft. Just for some basic comparison, think about how incredibly hyped up John Wall’s performance has been thus far in the preseaon and then take a look at these interesting numbers:

(Preseason Averages)

John Wall:
15.8 ppg (40.1% FG)
1.8 rpg
7.8 apg
35.8 mpg

Jordan Crawford:
21.0 ppg (48.1% FG)
4.0 rpg
5.0 apg
40.7 mpg

Now, aside from the fact that Jordan is playing around 6 more minutes per game, one could argue that Jordan has been the most impressive rookie in the preseason. We can’t really make too much out of these stats considering the levels of defense that these two guys are seeing is sub-par in comparison to what they’ll see once the regular season actually starts, but it just goes to show you that the media has a way of making a lot of players look significantly better than they are. I don’t think John Wall is going to be as amazing as some people expect, but I’m not taking anything away form him. However, if I had never seen either of these players play before and I used the preseason games as a reference, I might chose Crawford over Wall to be on my team. That’s just a thought, even though both of these guys are far from being superstars or even all-stars and have a lot to work on.

ABsoluteLY

October 13th, 2010
5:07 am

ARE YOU KIDDING. THE switch defense was made for the SOLE PURPOSE OF covering up the complete inability of MIKE bIBBY AND JAMAL CRAWFORD ON defense. THAT IS WHY THE PERIMETER DEFENSE WAS SO BAD because we had to have a CENTER AND POWER FORWARD GUARD the OPPOSING guards. THE defense looks bad right NOW because the scrubs are playing AND HALF THE REGULAR ROTATION is out with injury. NOBODY IS SCORING ON HORFORD AND sMITH WITH impunity because they are not even playing much. OPPOSING teams are scoring on OUR BACKUPS ALL DAY LONG. hORFORD HAS A INJURED ANKLE AND IS NOT playing much, SMITH HAS A CUT HAND.

THE SWITCH DEFENSE IS STUPID, ALWAYS WAS STUPID, AND LOOKED LIKE CRAP IN LAST YEARS PLAYOFFS where a sorry Bucks TEAM TOOK THE THIRD SEED HAWKS TO 7 games by blowing right by the STUPID SWITCH DEFENSE UNTIL WE PLAYED MAN TO MAN IN GAMES 6 AND 7. ORLANDO BLEW THE SWITCH DEFENSE away too.

PRESEASON WE ARE WATCHING SCRUBS AND ROOKIES THATS WHY NOTHING LOOKS REALLY GOOD. PAY attention and show a real basketball mind, not a high school mentality.

Gerard

October 13th, 2010
5:07 am

@ABsoluteLY

I definitely agree with your last post. One other problem that you forgot to mention is that our current starting PG is a major defensive liability, as well.

truthspitter

October 13th, 2010
5:07 am

The rotation remains unchanged

PG Bibby/Teague/Jordan
SG Joe/Jamal/Jordan
SF Marvin/Mo/Joe
PF Josh/Josh Powell/Al
C Al/Zaza/Bum #1/Bum#2

So seriously Jordan is not doing anything special he is not going to get normal rotation minutes unless Jamal and or Bibby is moved. Teague looked just as good last preseason people

ABsoluteLY

October 13th, 2010
5:09 am

TRENT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD POST.

FINALLY SOME logic and reasoning.

Gerard

October 13th, 2010
5:09 am

Hehe, in my last post I was actually agreeing with your 5:00 am post, not the most recent one (5:07 am), but after reading that, I can say that I agree with both.

truthspitter

October 13th, 2010
5:10 am

Absolutely: Are you talking to me Boy? You make no sense. The switching defense dictated what the offense did this mess dictates nothing, we just lay back and take whatever they give us like puppets on a string. What ignorant basketball mind you have. You sound just like that “Dumb Sund of a GM”

ABsoluteLY

October 13th, 2010
5:10 am

GERARD I DO NOT EXPECT TO SEE THE CURRENT STARTING POINT GUARD AS A STARTER MUCH LONGER. HE DOES NOT EVEN SHOOT WELL anymore, but he used to.

truthspitter

October 13th, 2010
5:17 am

This blog is filled with hypocritical idiots. Everyone swears they can see that Bibby should not be starter anymore due to preseason games and that Jordan deserves to be a rotation player in the regular season but these losses mean nothing. So, you can see Bibby is finished and Jordan is the truth but you can’t see overall as a team we suck bad and have taken a step back? That’s just ignorant. Either it means nothing or it means everything you can’t be stuck in the middle like your in a swamp, but that’s the Hawks current position stuck in positions

ABsoluteLY

October 13th, 2010
5:18 am

TRUTHSPITTER. THE SWITCH DEFENSE DICTATED NOT A SINGLE THING. IT EXISTED ONLY BECAUSE the guards outside of JOE JOHNSON COULD NOT GUARD THEIR OWN SHADOWS much less the other TEAMS GUARDS. IT NEVER MAKES SENSE TO SWITCH A CENTER ONTO A POINT GUARD and if you fine basketball mind could see anything at ALL YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN HOW A ROOKIE POINT GUARD AND A JOURNEYMAN GUARD EXPLOITED THAT IN LAST YEARS PLAYOFFS IN MILWAUKEE. DENIAL IS an ugly thing I UNDERSTAND, THEY MAKE PILLS FOR IT I hear. TELL ME WHAT THE SWITCH DEFENSE DICTATED TO ORLANDO. WE LOST BY A RECORD NUMBER OF POINTS TO THEM, OR DID YOU FORGET THAT AS WELL. GO AHEAD AND TELL ME HOW GREAT IT WAS THEN. ONE MORE TIME THE SCRUBS ARE PLAYING WITH ROOKIES AND SORRY MIKE bIBBY. HOW YOU EXPECT TO WIN LIKE THAT ANYWAY. 6 REGULAR players are out and YOU WANT TO JUDGE THE TEAM AND SEASON OFF OF 3 preseason games. THEY PROBABLY DONT MAKE PILLS FOR THAT i AM afraid.

Trent

October 13th, 2010
5:26 am

On the topic of the switching defense, I can say that it is both good and bad. As ABsoluteLY said, it was essentially utilized for one purpose: to cover up defensive liabilities on the perimeter (Bibby and Jamal). Now, in some cases, switching can be useful to create mismatches in your favor, as well as to throw off an opposing team’s offense. However, as most of us have seen all too many times, it can also be used against you and ultimately hurt you in the long run. I think of switching more as a situational tool than a true defensive scheme. You can think of it sort of like you think of a zone. It is valuable in some scenarios, but your opponent can actually use it against you to turn the tables. I think it is wise to stick with traditional, straight-up man-to-man defense for the most part in the NBA, as long as you have the personnel to do so. Then, when advantageous, you can utilize other additional defensive tools like switching, but not all of the time.

In the case of the Hawks of the past, they essentially had to make a trade-off and go with the switching since they were going to be hurt either way. If they stuck with straight-up defense while both bibby and Jamal are in the game, the opposing offense would simply take advantage of those two. Yet, if they decided to utilize switching, they covered up flaws temporarily, until the opposing team or coach eventually realized how to use the switches in his team’s own favor to create mismatches that worked. That’s the basic jist of it. That’s the reason why the Hawks defense was not exposed fully until the playoffs. A lot of coaches didn’t have time to make the impromptu adjustments necessary during the regular season because they weren’t paying a great deal of attention to the Hawks, as they didn’t have the time. In the playoffs, the opponents had the time and quickly discovered mismatches that worked and exploited them. Now, the Hawks are deciding to go with straight-up defense, but they will continue to see breakdowns until they have the complete personnel necessary to run the defense. This means, we will eventually have to remove Bibby and acquire back-up big men that can defend. Before that happens, there will always be glaring vulnerabilities when you have bibby, jamal, zaza, powell, etan, collins, or any combination of those players out on the floor.

ABsoluteLY

October 13th, 2010
5:27 am

ANY FOOL COULD SEE BIBBY WAS finished last season the only QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT TEAGUE WOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH TO START or would we be stuck with NOBODY BUT BIBBY. THAT is not stuck in BOTH POSITIONS AND 3 PRESEASON games was not necessary TO COME TO THAT IDEA. NOTHING IS more hypocritical THAN THINKING THE SWITCH DEFENSE DICTATED ANYBODYS OFFENSE. CANNOT BE DUMBER THAN THAT WHEN mike woodson himself said he USED IT TO COVER UP BIBBY WHO HE ALSO SAID WAS GETTING SLOWER by the minute. BUT HEY WHO AM I TO ARGUE WITH THE PERSON WHO THINKS HE IS smarter than the guy who used to coach the team. HYPOCRITE HA HA HA HA. THE FIRST ONE TO BARK ABOUT IT IS USUALLY THE FIRST ONE TO PERSONIFY IT.

ABsoluteLY

October 13th, 2010
5:30 am

TRENT excellent post once again, THE SWITCH DEFENSE IS NOT A BASE DEFENSE BUT RATHER A GOOD DEFENSIVE ADJUSTMENT WHEN IT BECOMES NECESSARY. THANKYOU for making sense once again.

vava74

October 13th, 2010
5:39 am

My view:

Major fact to report: JC2 is officially the sleeper of this draft and IMO a top 5 talent easily.

If Teague is experiencing some problems unleashing his dog, JC2 has a Brazillian Mastiff on steroids inside him.

In relation to the loss and the lack of D, I think people are over reacting: defense starts on the perimeter and we had trouble keeping up with Washington’s rather interesting 3 small 2 bigs line up:

Bibby was himself and it is sad to see the oldest 31 year old in the NBA moving. He looks like an arthritic geezer playing weekend ball on a park… :-D

JC2 shows a willingness to defend and even contained Wall one on one during a few plays but he gets caught on picks many times and loses track on defense of what the other team is doing.

That lead to the Hawks-Wizards game looking a bit like the ORL series: easy ball penetration, our inside D overreacted, the ball rotated and JaVale, Blatche and Yi either got easy baskets or rotated the rock to the perimeter for an uncontested 3.

Washington also benefited from a night in which almost everything they shot went in.

IMO this would not have happened with Teague, JJ (at SG) and Marvin on the floor protecting the perimeter.

Also, we must take into consideration that Washington will be a dangerous team, in particular if Arenas goes down indefinitely (which was not the case) since Wall is indeed a great player and Young is a dangerous shooter without the rock on his hands.

IMO Wall will be waaaay better than Rose since his type of play gets his guys much more involved than Rose: he scores within the flow of the game and not looking for himself.

Other notes: Powell listed size must be wrong. IMO he is only 6′8” and since he has short arms and is not an explosive jumper (does not look right now) he is over matched on D and the reason why is he is a poor rebounder.

All this whilst having a nice of touch offensively (although his hands resemble Kwame’s at times, IMO due to poor concentration).

In the end, I think he will still contribute well for short stretches, giving us 3/4ppg, a few rebounds and fresh muscles off the bench here and there when the match ups are more favorable than yesterday (Washington is extremely long and athletic).

Etan looks rusty but IMO it’s too early to consider him completely washed up. I think that he could get his chops back with more games and more minutes.

JJ started the game smoking, with his shot looking extremely sharp and looking to post up Nick Young, showing a willingness to exploit the match up doing a dirty work (he ended up not getting the rock too many times down there).

He did lose a couple of balls again looking a bit careless with his dribble/passing.

Another issue which I believe will be adjusted with time is that on offense we are so focused in implementing the ball rotation that we are not yet exploiting favorable ISO match ups like the one JJ had on Young and like the ones we had in general on Washington’s bigs (which man to man D is rather poor).

For instance, Zaza physically had JaVale where he wanted (when asked to on a couple of times, Zaza took it to the rack easily against JaVale (and Yi)).

Josh was clearly bothered by the injury but was the only guy that looked scrappy on D with steals and blocks, however, his man to man D was pretty bad since he was overreacting a lot and got caught several times in his back.

His shot looks better since his in game mechanics is now similar to his FT shot: not good, a lot flatter, but more fluid. I think his fg% will remain at last years’ level but with a bit more outside shots going in allowing him to stretch Ds a bit more.

Al was pretty good on offense and could have easily exploited Washington’s bigs at will. On D he was a bit suspect, however, my guess is that he was trying not to hurt his ankle any more than it is and was also caught on that “Jameer to Howard” impersonation act which Wall was doing with his bigs.