Atlanta Hawks: Intense practices have injuries adding up
The open practice at Philips Arena today was a relatively light affair for the Hawks. The way things are going, L.D. might have to start sprinkling in more sessions like that to keep his team in one piece.
Six guys were left behind when the Hawks flew out today for games at Detroit and D.C.: Teague (ankle), Marvin (ill), Twin (leg), Pape Sy (back), Mo (knee) and Jamal (back).
Al, Etan and Josh Powell also have missed time with injuries since camp opened.
“It’s a different preseason for us this year,” Teague said. “It is a lot more intense in practice. Injuries happen in the game. Last year it was a little more laid back and we didn’t have a lot of serious injuries at this time. It is really intense, guys are going really hard and things happen.”
For some of the injuries, it’s hard to know how much of it is just vet players taking it easy so they can be healthy for the long season. And with Mo and Pape, the issues were there before the Hawks started practice.
Still, L.D. said his long, intense practices have been a factor in the assorted nagging injuries but that he doesn’t want to let up too much.
“It is going to be like that, especially when we are preaching being more a physical team and playing with more of a physicality,” he said. “We are going to have our nicks and our bruises. The thing I have to gauge is the fact we are not beating up on each other too much.
“Some days will be a little bit more intense and tougher than others. I won’t wear them down from playing like that every day in practice. Some days we will have to gauge it to where we are not banging as much. But for the most part I want them to bring that energy and intensity every day because that’s who we have to be when we play.”
Teague rolled his ankle when he landed on Jamal’s foot in practice Saturday. He said he thinks he will be back on the court by Tuesday.
Mo said he pushed the knee too early a week ago and had to have it drained. Now he’s backing off a bit while he continues to build strength.
“I don’t want to start that type process,” he said. “If you rush back from injury put yourself at a disadvantage. When I come back I want to be as close to 100 percent as I can. I see Kobe is out there limping around and not really having his full range of motion. I think he came back a little too early. I don’t want to be put in that situation.”
The Hawks will take 11 players on the trip. L.D. said Smoove (hand) would be a gametime decision Monday at Detroit. Josh said he would be out a week after cutting his hand on the rim Thursday but it looks like he could return sooner.
L.D. said he would wait until the Hawks got some guys back before adding more elements of his motion offense. Expect to see some weird lineups in the two games since L.D. still wants to limit the minutes for some of his regulars.
“Injuries are a part of it,” he said. “You hope to get through training camp where it’s an injury-free camp but that’s a not reality. There are bumps, there are bruises.”
MC
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DirtyBraveHawk
October 10th, 2010
5:29 pm
Didn’t make it to the open practice. Can anyone tell me how it went? How was LD on the guys and did you guys pick up on anything? I know it was a light affair but you can still come away with some revelations.
DirtyBraveHawk
October 10th, 2010
5:29 pm
BTW am I supposed to say first? I never got that anyway
ray lewis
October 10th, 2010
5:30 pm
1st
Section 303
October 10th, 2010
5:32 pm
Michael, I watched the practice today. Does Josh Smith always hit jumpers in practice? I don’t think I saw him miss one the entire time. After years of wishing he would stop shooting jumpers, I’m wondering if he has developed a decent shot. I’m not talking about 3’s, but 19-ft in, maybe? He was knocking them down today.
Section 303
October 10th, 2010
5:38 pm
DirtyBraveHawk,
The practice was OK. It was interesting watching the guys run Coach Drew’s version of the Princeton offense. It is still a work in progress. Some of the guys seemed unsure of where to go…I noticed Josh Smith asking questions, which is good. At one point, the guys were working on setting up and going through the offense on a break/after a miss by the other team. The starter group (Bibby, Joe, Josh, Al, can’t remember the 5th) had to run something again. Coach Drew, who had been patient, said “It isn’t that hard fellas.”
I liked the movement. Kind of reminds me of a “Flex offense”, if you are familer with that. Lots of movement. Lots of screening. I noticed a few times where Bibby and Horford would set a double screen for Joe as he was running from the base line to the L.
Another thing that has stood out to me, both at this practice and at the question/answer with Coach Drew and Rick Sund on Thursday, is the attitude. The coaches and Rick Sund all talk about this team winning a title. Rick Sund even said on Thursday that the goal, for sure, is the Conference Finals. I like it. Regardless of what anyone thinks about that, you have to like it.
DirtyBraveHawk
October 10th, 2010
5:47 pm
Thanks Sec 303. That all sounds good to hear. I know it’s gonna take some time and reps for the guys to get this new system down and get Woody’s ISO heave system out of THEIR system. Like you, I’m glad to hear about Smoove asking questions and wanting to get more knowledge. This can be a career year for him if he sets his mind to it and eliminates some of the mental mistakes. Also glad to hear the word “Championship” come out of these guys mouth. Yes I know, they need to get out of round 2 first but I was getting concerned that this franchise was just content with just making the playoffs and winning a round. It’s time to have bigger goals.
STEEL(Formerly VenomSpitter)
October 10th, 2010
6:00 pm
I hope they get the filth of Woody’s “OFFENSE” OFF SO THEY FULL GET THE NEW OFFENSE.
STEEL(Formerly VenomSpitter)
October 10th, 2010
6:01 pm
I hope they get the filth of Woody’s “OFFENSE” off so they fully get the new offense.
Michael Cunningham
October 10th, 2010
6:27 pm
@Sec 303: “Michael, I watched the practice today. Does Josh Smith always hit jumpers in practice?”
he makes them all the time. i mentioned this in a blog post last season and some people piled on me because they said there’s a difference in making them in practices and games. of course there is, i just think it’s remarkable he is so accurate in practice. then again, Shaq used to make free throws all the time in practice but we see what he does in games.
northcyde
October 10th, 2010
6:29 pm
Drew needs to be careful. We’re not even a week into the preseason, and he already has 1/2 of the team out or knicked up. Going hard in practice is great, but you only hurt yourself as a team if some of your main rotation guys can’t practice.
This is a youg, but veteran team. So if Drew needs to scale back the intensity of practices so that the young guys can learn more, then that’s what he has to do.
I know the old saying is “you play like you practice”, but if you’re unable to practice, you can’t play.
The NBA is a long season. Don’t kill your guys during this time of year.
SCALE IT DOWN LD.
Hmmm
October 10th, 2010
6:32 pm
“I hope they get the filth of Woody’s “OFFENSE” off so they fully get the new offense.”
Co-sign
I just hope everyone is healthy before the first regular season game. Honestly, I would Tank that Miami pre-season game on ESPN and rest all of the starters.
Sara
October 10th, 2010
6:37 pm
I hope these injuries don’t spill into the regular season.
northcyde
October 10th, 2010
6:45 pm
I use to joke with people during High School, that I was a “warm-up All American”. I kid you not, I probably knocked down 75% of my 3 point attempts during warm-ups before the game. I used to practice them a game speed too, not just standing still and shooting them.
Of course when the lights came on, I hit a respectable 40% from three . . not quite the video game like 75% I shot in warm-ups.
Smoove’s mechanics as a shooter will prevent him from becoming a decent midrange shooter. His wind-up takes longer than Sam Perkins old flatfooted jumper. He does have to shoot it to keep people honest, but I’ll never can envision him being even a 37% shooter from that 16 – 23 ft range.
I’d much rather for him to be practicing post moves, than jumpers.
northcyde
October 10th, 2010
7:01 pm
The one positive thing about Smoove’s jumper, is that during games, he seems to knock that shot down more often, if he is around the FT line to the top of the key.
To me, the straightaway shot is the easiest jumper to make, because the backboard gives you the proper depth perception. Plus you still get a chance to make the shot if you shoot it too long.
Some people may disagree, and say the baseline/corner jumper is the easiest to make, because you have to concentrate a little more to make the shot.
Section 303
October 10th, 2010
7:09 pm
northcyde, that’s the thing…to me, Josh’s mechanics looked better. He seemed to get the shot off quicker. Not only was he knocking down jumpers in practice, he hit a good share in Thursday’s exhibition game, too.
I think he can hit that 19-foot shot. Just keep him away from the 3-point line.
The Truth
October 10th, 2010
7:38 pm
“For some of the injuries, it’s hard to know how much of it is just vet players taking it easy so they can be healthy for the long season.”
MC in this a comtradiction? From this statement, it sound like guys got injured taking it easy.
“But for the most part I want them to bring that energy and intensity every day because that’s who we have to be when we play”
I totally agree. This is necessary in order to change the culture of the team. This may sound awkward, but the more they lose in pre-season, the better they maybe prepared when the regular season starts based on LD prospective. Because this is a veteran team that has pride themselves with past winning records, they will not lack an incentive to getting it right. Perhaps this explains why they are beating each other up. They seem be motivated to win.
The Truth
October 10th, 2010
7:39 pm
“MC is this a comtradiction?”
GT Alum
October 10th, 2010
8:00 pm
Well, the fact that he’s hit them so consistently in practice is probably a good part of the reason he had trouble laying off of shooting them. Even if he’s not hitting them in games, there’s got to be a nagging feeling of “I know I can hit this shot”, especially when he’s left wide open.
ant banks
October 10th, 2010
8:12 pm
CONGRATS DIRTYBRAVEHAWK,
you were first!! 20 other people couldn’t make that title. be proud!! i have had 6 FIRSTS in a year. lol
ant banks
October 10th, 2010
8:19 pm
CUNNINGHAM,
2 years ago, the team got together weeks before trainin’ camp and ran around ga. tech’s track. do you know if they did any preconditionin’ before this years camp? football players generally stay in shape year round and they come into camp ready.
also, what do you think about the nba goin’ into an OTA type deal, like the nfl, to gauge the players readiness, etc. and go over plays.
Section 303
October 10th, 2010
8:21 pm
GT Alum, that’s probably true.
I was thinking another thing that may help him with his jumper is the fact that he is not as ripped as he has been the last 3-years. Josh is still in great shape, but not so cut. Could help with his shot.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 10th, 2010
8:25 pm
Tuffin’ Up!
You play how you practice!
Practice Tuff’
Play Tuff’
I commented earlier this week about the ‘Pat-Riley’ type hard
practices, which caused Shaq to rebel and rift with the Miami
Heat, when the won that Championship!
Today’s players are greedy and lazy!
northcyde
October 10th, 2010
8:52 pm
@ Truth . . . the problem with that philosophy you kicked in the last paragraph of your 7:38 post, is that the group that really needs to gel, is the bench. They’re the group that needs the floor time with other, not the starters.
I’m not really concerned about Jamal playing wise, only mental wise. Mo, on the other hand, needs to be practicing and playing, to make sure the decline we saw last year wasn’t an indication that his game is in decline.
This could very well be our starting lineup against Detroit and Washington
PG – Bibby
G – Jordan
F – JJ
PF – Horford
C – Zaza
Then all we can do, is throw the scrubs out there. Heck, Jordan may play 35+ minutes and maybe play some at the 1, due to the lack of bodies.
If Smoove’s hand is hurt, I definitely don’t want him out there playing in meaningless preseason games.
niremetal
October 10th, 2010
9:04 pm
MC,
I’m mostly with northcyde on the reason Josh is accurate in practice from midrange but terrible during the season. I think in large part, his slow and hitched release explains it. When you’re in practice and you have all the time in the world and the shots don’t count, he can relax and release it at his own pace. In a game, he has to release it a bit quicker. Even if he’s wide open (which he often is – teams dare him to shoot long jumpers), he probably pressures himself to release it a bit faster before an opponent starts to close out on him. As anyone who’s shot a basketball knows, rushing your shot by even a millisecond can throw it off, and Josh’s slow release means that he probably feels the need to shave a few milliseconds off his release more than most players.
So unlike with his free throws, I don’t think it’s a mental block. I actually think it’s a mechanical issue, but the mechanical differences are probably too subtle too see on tape. We might not be able to tell the difference between a shot that takes 1.5 seconds to release and one that takes 1.4 seconds, but it can make a difference anyway. That’s my theory, anyway.
The Truth
October 10th, 2010
9:35 pm
northcyde
I think when LD makes reference to “energy and intensity every day” he’s talking about the whole team not just the bench. It’s hard to argue though that the bench needs to gel as well, but since everything LD is installing is “new”, I would expect “all hands on deck” is required. I’m sure LD knows the vets have the fortitude to work hard based on their accomplishments, but with the new installations, working smarter is the issue. Whether you are a starter or a role player, you must know and correct the errors of your ways. Rule number 1, drill baby drill! Rule number 2, never forget rule number 1.
Michael Cunningham
October 10th, 2010
9:39 pm
@ The Truth: “For some of the injuries, it’s hard to know how much of it is just vet players taking it easy so they can be healthy for the long season.” “MC in this a comtradiction? From this statement, it sound like guys got injured taking it easy.”
by that, i mean that in some cases guys may not be pushing it when they get minor injuries because it’s still preseason.
Michael Cunningham
October 10th, 2010
9:40 pm
@ ant banks: “2 years ago, the team got together weeks before trainin’ camp and ran around ga. tech’s track. do you know if they did any preconditionin’ before this years camp?”
yes some of the players did. Teague, J. Crawford, Marvin, and Zaza i know did for sure. i think i wrote about it in one of the Teague blog posts.
Michael Cunningham
October 10th, 2010
9:50 pm
@niremetal: “So unlike with his free throws, I don’t think it’s a mental block. I actually think it’s a mechanical issue, but the mechanical differences are probably too subtle too see on tape. We might not be able to tell the difference between a shot that takes 1.5 seconds to release and one that takes 1.4 seconds, but it can make a difference anyway. That’s my theory, anyway.”
it’s a good theory. perhaps Josh feels like he has to rush because of the flow of the game and sometimes he literally had to rush because he catches it in bad position with a short shot clock. but on many of those jumpers he has plenty of time because the defense basically gives him the shot.
this reminds me: the other day reporters were waiting for players to finish shooting at the end of practice. Josh goes around to several spots around the 3-point line and makes probably 10/15 attempts. as he’s making the last few he looks over at us (or maybe just me) and says: “yeah, you see me making all of these. you write that i take the [blankety blankers] make sure you write i’m making them.”
it’s the kind of bravado you hear a lot when you are around a team. but i think GT Alum is on to something in regards to Josh’s nagging feeling that he knows he can make them.
truthspitter
October 10th, 2010
10:08 pm
Soft team. If u ever watched football the team that starts to get guys injured because they can not take the physicality is the losing team most of the time. Hawks are too soft. Nothing has changed but a new stupid offense. The softness shows when u let people come back from 20 + points in your gym and when this many guys are injured. Everyone that tries to say Joe running the best mile means nothing you are very lost. There is a reason why Joe is not getting hurt so-far and has never really been injury prone. They guy is the most professional guy on our team.
northcyde
October 10th, 2010
10:12 pm
LOL @ MC.
Tell Josh that if he stopped taking jumpers, and tried to dunk on more people while driving to the hole, that he’ll be a shoo-in for the All-Star game.
SMH . . . he wants to be Rasheed Wallace so bad, instead of Shawn Kemp.
Rev in Tampa
October 10th, 2010
10:12 pm
**Movie Review**
The Hawks are in the movie, “Life As We Know It”. Its a chick flick (I went as a loving husband). But it is not as bad as most chick flicks. It wasn’t a ‘romantic comedy’.
Anyway, the guy in the movie who ‘presumably’ will fall in love with Katherine Hegel works in the TV production team that televises the Hawks. So several real scenes from the Hawks playing good basketball were featured in the movie. Also a lot of beautiful scenes from around Atlanta (mostly Buckhead, etc.).
My recommendation: guys if you have to go see a chick flick from time to time with your lady, you could do worse. And the Hawks offer a brief reprieve at different times during the movie.
Fundamentals
October 10th, 2010
10:58 pm
northcyde – a new Kemp would be awesome! I agree on Josh, but let him grow into his game. I think he has a mixture of both guys talent. It’ll just take time to build the confidence in his game. Evan Jordan took years to perfect his craft. He learned the fading jumpers later in his career. Josh too will follow, but for now “let it rain” Kemp style. Is Teague the new glove?
Fundamentals
October 10th, 2010
11:04 pm
The dents and dings will come till the team hardens up a bit. They’re young, they’ll rebound and respond. It’s time to change the culture. LD’s doing that. Let them nurse their injuries, but keep pushing hard. It might cost us some games early, but who cares. We need to grow, get tougher, gel and be ready for Mar-Apr. We don’t need homecourt. We need a new identity – a meaner, faster, tougher metality that LD and his staff are implementing.
Get hungry Hawks. You’re gonna need the groceries to fill the shoes LD’s laid out for you. Total committment gets rewarded with cash, respect and potentially some jewelry. Work hard! You’ve got the talent. It’ll pay!
Knuckles
October 10th, 2010
11:21 pm
Doesnt matter the hawks arent going anywhere any way.
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2010
12:07 am
TRUTHSH!TTER-It doesn’t how hard you try, and no matter how many names you post your redundant negative anti Hawk BS under, there’s no way the Hawks will become losers like you.
MsDee
October 11th, 2010
12:10 am
Way to think positive again, Knuckles, way to think positive!!
Big Ray
October 11th, 2010
12:10 am
LOL.
Mo Evans using himself and Kobe Bryant in the same sentence while talking about injury and performance ability affected by injury. What a jokester that Mo Evans is. Or did I mean to say what a joke?
Grandad
October 11th, 2010
12:30 am
I agree with ‘truthspitter’…..seriously.
“Soft team”
If u ever watched football the team that starts to get guys injured because they can not take the physicality is the losing team most of the time.”
I was about to use UGA as an example.
Coach Richt had “boody Monday” last week & look what happened.
He even admitted to being too soft in pre-season,
for fear of injuries.
drmaryb said –> “Tuffin’ Up!” I agree!
northcyde said: “SCALE IT DOWN LD” I disagree!
nc – If we want to win a championship, then it starts right now.
The tone LD sets, the habits the players form, the intensity with
which he wants them to play, all those traits are being formed now.
A [Wise] man once said:
“You only get one chance to make a 1st impression”
Grandad
October 11th, 2010
12:34 am
*[bloody] Monday not [boody] Monday.
Rashard
October 11th, 2010
2:03 am
Booty Monday? Grandad, what has gotten into you? lol =P
truthspitter
October 11th, 2010
3:01 am
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2010
12:07 am
TRUTHSH!TTER-It doesn’t how hard you try, and no matter how many names you post your redundant negative anti Hawk BS under, there’s no way the Hawks will become losers like you.
Ken I post under one name and I don’t care for your posts either but I don’t reply directly to you because you are like a penny on the ground with manure on it, not worth the time.
Clyde Jr.
October 11th, 2010
3:42 am
Roll Tide
dap01
October 11th, 2010
6:26 am
Is Jamal really hurt?
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
8:26 am
Hard Hats!
MJ was the hardest working man that ever
played in th NBA. When he had a hang-nail
he cut the toe out his shoe and just did it!
When he had the Flu? He played &
Just Did the Damned Thang!
Kobe works hard today. There’s no crying
in Basketball.
These million dollar babies? Get on my nerves.
JoJo the Godfather
October 11th, 2010
8:32 am
Mo & Jamal need to be moved soon…Both are thinking more about contracts than playing basketball…I was really hoping for the Crawford & Crawford combo off the bench, but its becoming more and more obvious that he’s not going to get past this contract thing…Mo’s pretty transparent as well…He won’t push that knee because he knows he’s a free agent at the end of the year.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
8:33 am
Yo Money! Its’ the Shoes!
- spike lee -
MJ sells as many shoes now as he did then.
Even today’s players wear “Jordans”
MJ was not the best player when he came to the league,
But, he was the hardest working player to ever play the Game!
That’s why he has the ICONIC logo and Shoes still.
There is no substitute for hard work!
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
8:40 am
JoJo I know – right?
Why didn’t Month get that knee scoped after that last series?
Sounds Shaq-a-licious to me.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
8:41 am
* Maurice
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 11th, 2010
9:10 am
Run run run. “You soft punks want a ring? You want fame? Well fame cost and right is were you start paying, in sweat and pulled muscles.”
Big Ray,
Man I was thinking the SAME thing about Month Evans and his continued delusions of grandeur. He is conceited lil scrub. Last year when he bulked up, he was comparing himself to Dwade and Kobe again – only to stink it up in limited minutes.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 11th, 2010
9:23 am
@ Dap01,
I question the integrity of Jamal now and Month Evans. Don’t think their injuries are that serious. To me, these to don’t luxury to sit out games like Wade due to minor nicks and muscle tweaks os ankles or knees. Sure you gotta get paid but you are under contract and you better leave it on the court to earn a bigger one. We need a sucka free team so that means JC1 and Mo need to be shown the door.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
9:40 am
Punks!
When MJ played in Washington and drafted Kwame?
He complained about today’s young players who will
not play the 50/50 game and dive for loose balls.
MJ said, ” I’m near 40 years old and am banging my body
on the floor for loose balls. Where is the effort?”
MJ was disgusted that the new players don’t want to ruin
their manicures by diving for loose balls! They scream for
contracts, but they don’t scream for hard practices!
I’m almost done with supporting the Today’s Athlete!
Bump all these injuries! Let’s Go Punk!
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
9:44 am
JoJo
I agree! Get rid of Jamal and Maurice – period!
Bring in some hungry players who will accept a role!
Section 303
October 11th, 2010
9:52 am
Guys,
Just an FYI, if you have NBA League Pass, the Washington game will be televised on Tuesday.
J from the A
October 11th, 2010
9:55 am
It’s f’n preseason, guys. I for one don’t want our vets pushing injuries during this time of year.
It’s one thing to demand a player play through it during play off time. It is a whole ‘nother thing to demand that they play through it during the PRESEASON. smh.
Section 303
October 11th, 2010
9:57 am
J from the A, right on! Preseason games just do not matter and should be treated that way.
kwooden1
October 11th, 2010
9:58 am
nire, I didn’t see practice but I’m sure your dead on about Josh and his shooting. That hitch in his mechanics is hard to make up for during games. I also think he fades on his shots to much. I think he’s got keep shooting when he’s open though. Everybody misses sometimes, but if you don’t shoot during the flow of the offensive, it can hurt team rebounding and transition defense.
J from the A
October 11th, 2010
10:01 am
And, I will say it again: As long as Mo successfully comes off this injury, I think he is going to thrive (off the bench) in the motion offense. He moves well without the ball and has shown that, at times, he can be explosive.
An improved Mo and a developing Jordan may give us the insurance we need to move Jamal before the trade deadline. (Of course, the improvement of Mo and the development of Jordan are two big IFs.)
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
10:01 am
J from the A!
If not NOW? When?
When is it too early to build character?
These guys are fully paid to do a full days work, you can’t
Just “turn it on – when it really counts.”
Character, doesn’t have a magic-switch!
Fundamentals
October 11th, 2010
10:02 am
Granddad: “You only get one chance to make a 1st impression”
We did, with the same let down and lack of effort that killed us last year. What came next? Whining about injuries and needing LD to tone it down.
Hopefully they’ll man up and not give us a strike three!
Jamal is most likley being held in case of a trade – IMHO
Mo is just full of himself…again. You’d think he was a captain or real impact player the way he talks. I’ll grant he’s playing SF out of position, but the guy doesn’t deserve that much credit, even from his own momma!
Fundamentals
October 11th, 2010
10:04 am
We don’t want vets pushing injuries, but we do want players pushing hard. You don’t hear me calling out Smoove for getting his stitches healed. Let him heal, but when does chuch basketball camp end and the NBA begin?
joBjo
October 11th, 2010
10:04 am
it’s obvious that several players have come in in less than good shape. how can these lazy millionaires not even show up in shape? don’t blame practice for lazy players coming in out of shape! disgracefull! if this is a sign of their commitment, then I fear for this season!
Fundamentals
October 11th, 2010
10:06 am
Nire & KWooden – Josh’s shooting will improve when he knows when and where he’s expected to shoot from. Preparing for specific shots in the game and running plays will fix that problem. He’s like Marvin, he’s got to know when and where it’s coming from to be successful. It’s called an offense. Glad we’re finally going to run one.
Rushed shots at the end of shot clock aren’t good for Joe, much less Josh or Marvin. Nobody thrives in that environment.
Fundamentals
October 11th, 2010
10:08 am
From AAU through the NBA kids don’t have the hunger to master conditioning. They just want to beat out someone for the starting role and then gloat about one good performance. It’s no longer about being the best you can be, it’s all about starting, stats and money. This is a problem w/ kids from the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
10:10 am
Under Construction!
I would be elated to see this team as currently constructed,
become a World Beater!
But, how you practice is how you play!
If your main focus is on your next contract?
Then, you are not focused on the task at hand! (Jamal?)
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
10:16 am
Coddlers & Toddlers!
“This is a Grown Man’s Business.”
- Big-Boi from The ATL movie -
This is a Grown Man’s business!
Why are we coddling toddlers?
i_am_soulstar
October 11th, 2010
10:46 am
J from the A,
I absolutely agree with your 9:55 AM post. It is not routine or even sensible to ask a player to play through the pain during the preseason. LD’s intense practices have caused a few bumps and bruises, but these are apart of the growing pains that a team must go through to change its notoriously “soft” culture.
If guys are anything besides 100%, I don’t support them playing games that don’t count and possible making an injury worse. It’s just not worth it.
And I believe that many of these guys that aren’t playing are still practicing. So as long as they’re learning the system, let them cheer from the bench for the rest of the preseason if they’re anything less than 100%.
KevinM
October 11th, 2010
11:12 am
DMB…you are dead on it today! “I’m almost done with supporting the Today’s Athlete!”
That comment alone speaks loud and clear about the core of this team. How many of those guys get dirty on the floor after loose balls? I have see JJ avoid contact like no one’s business!
While I’m not there to be able to show them how to do it, the $$ is just too great for these guys and done’t be surprised to see Al and JC1 taking it easy on their bodies waiting for that LT deal.
As much as I want to believe Sund and his statements, what he says means very little. This basketball expert still looks like he in OTJ training. I am waiting for one of his evaluations to really pan out. Come to think of it, I am hoping one of his draft picks really pans out.
This is not a team that Sund has done much for; this team has been together and his job so far has been negotiating better deals than most likely what they would get on the open market.
Still a team with too many questions…..those injuries might be a signal of things to come. I wouldn’t get so giddy about Chicago losing Boozer; we may be in the same doctor’s office.
Mike is back
October 11th, 2010
11:20 am
MC, I think if LD is successful at getting these guys to come out every game and battle like warriors…all the aches and pain will be well worth it.
Fundamentals, agree on 11pm post, on guys sustaining lingering injuries…Hey, when you are trying to cultivate a climate of toughness…guys are going to get nicked up. They have to lick their wounds and Man the F up.
Drmaryb, you are right, nothing worst than a bunch of candy ass millionaires…again I think this is a case where LD’s familiarity with the troops…that tells him he has push these guys…in order to change their mindset.
Just the thought of that of Orlando series…makes feel like LD needs to continue to work the F out of these guys…heck, after way they packed it in…in the playoff last season…they should be well rested. lol
GO MC, GO LD, AND GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ntrigue
October 11th, 2010
11:48 am
Feels good not to see Woodson anymore!
Hawk n the Ham
October 11th, 2010
12:19 pm
Has anyone had the NBA online League Pass before? If so, do you have to download a special player to watch the games, or does it play through the same video player on their website? Thanks in advance.
Go Hawks!
Ramon
October 11th, 2010
12:28 pm
Drmaryb, I will say that about Wade, Lebron, Durant, (Josh at times), and Gerald Wallace, they will dive for loose balls, and go all out on the hustle end. A while ago, that is what I was talking about the Hawks having that ‘you won’t outwork me attitude’ as a TEAM. If Atlanta (as a team) gave the effort that Houston gives (they’re about the toughest minded team I can think of right now), they would give any team in the East problems, regardless of the superstar word.
Speaking of which have anyone ever seen JJ dive for a loose ball?
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
12:38 pm
Punks – Stink!
DecDawg
October 11th, 2010
12:40 pm
@Ramon – I have never seen JJ hustle/dive for a loose ball. And this type of hustle is a MUST for team leaders.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
12:52 pm
Health Care!
These guys have access to the Best health care in the world!
If you show up to work as a professional athlete – outa’ shape?
Don’t come crying to me!
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
12:56 pm
Talent!
Steve Mariucci-sp just said it best on the NFL Network:
“Talent doesn’t win games – Performance does!”
Grandad
October 11th, 2010
1:12 pm
There is a difference between being *hurt -&- being injured.
* Being hurt – means you can & should play through the inj.
* Being injured – is completely different:
1. involves medical staff
2. involves re-hab
3. the Coach is not part of the decision making (when ath plays)
4. more serious than just bein’ hurt
-note- I’m sure I left somethin’ out.
Now for a couple of comments:
Mo is injured.
* J-Cheese suffered an inj during the Memphis game.
* Jamal’s appears to be contract related.
* Bibby is doggiig it. ~~neither hurt nor inj~~
* Pape Sy ??? You know this kid wants to play!
* Josh – inj, no question, -&- he wants to play.
* Ditto, Al.
Grandad
October 11th, 2010
1:18 pm
[* Being hurt – means you can & should play through the inj.]
*Being hurt – means you can & should play through the {{{-Pain-}}}
* {{{Pain}}}…..[not]…..(hurt)
O'Brien
October 11th, 2010
1:37 pm
Given LD’s motion offense, and the energy required, plus the higher risk of injuries, you would think Rick would have done a better job of improving the bench.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
October 11th, 2010
1:38 pm
Drmaryb: “Character, doesn’t have a magic-switch”
Right on, for youngsters such a Teague feeling comfortable enough to even insinuate to the press that they are being overworked in practice let’s me know a lot about his character. Drew needs to keep doing what he is doing and pull JT0 to the side and tell him zip it and practice like he plays. You don’t become a legend without practice-I don’t care how much natural talent you possess.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
1:40 pm
Grand-Daddy!
Spot on! Thanks for the explanations.
Football players play through nagging pain all year long!
There is no such thing as being 100% healthy during a season.
I challenge the commitment to perform here.
These guys don’t value preparation and training camps.
(See Brett Farve). These type guys only want to play when
they can be seen by the National Media! (see Shaq!)
It’s pathetic to witness laziness!
If you are really injured? All that ish goes out the window!
Teague and Al rolled their ankles, so they are excused!
But sore backs and hurt thumbs? Give me a break!
(See Kobe)
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
1:47 pm
Who Dat?
New Orleans Fan! Amen Bruh, these guys are killing me!
What was Mr. Woodson doing these past six years in practice?
Playing arouind? No wonder they set the record for -
How to be embarrassed in the play-offs!!
Go Figure!
Aye Coach Drew! Work them Punks! Kill ‘em in practice!
Because, they weren’t killin’ nobody in them 2 series!
JoJo the Godfather
October 11th, 2010
1:55 pm
I’m all for guys sitting out if they need to heal an injury…What they should recognize though is that for every game they sit, somebody is getting their minutes…If Jamal wants to sit, I guarantee you that Jordan is thankful and will try his best to take advantage of the playing time…I expect Jeff & Jordan to get big minutes tonight…20+ pts for both tonight.
JoJo the Godfather
October 11th, 2010
1:58 pm
Well, I guess I forgot that Teague was the first name listed as out…Oh well, Jordan will have to got off for 40 instead. LOL
i_am_soulstar
October 11th, 2010
2:04 pm
Definitely JoJo, an injured player stepping foot on the court during a preseason games makes no sense at all to me.
High cost, low reward.
Not my type of gamble.
That’s why I stick to Blackjack in Vegas. 1 to 3 odds.
Section 303
October 11th, 2010
2:28 pm
Hawk n the Ham, I have NBA League Pass, but through DirecTV not online. I think, however, getting it online is pretty easy. You just go to whatever site and choose the game you want to watch, click on it, and it plays.
I’m a huge fan. I love watching the other games. Really like the west coast games the best. Great TV on late Friday and Saturday nights.
Hawk n the Ham
October 11th, 2010
2:55 pm
Section 303, I’ve been thinking of cutting the cable when Google TV comes out later this month. If it streams on a normal webpage, then I think it will work, which would be sweet!
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2010
2:56 pm
TRUTHSPITTER-you might not respond directly to my posts, but you do respond don’t you. And your inability, or unwillingness to respond to them directly isn’t due to your dislike for what I have to say, but to your lack of courage and/or ability to confront my posts with your very narrowly focused, negative, and often uninformed, single minded opinions of the team and 1 or 2 specific players.
All you’ve contributed thus far are negative comments about AHorford, JTeague and what the team can’t or won’t accomplish, period. Other than that, you might as well be deaf, dumb and blind. As far as the Hawks being soft, that’s the same label that’s been placed on the 2 TIME DEFENDING NBA CHAMPION LA LAKERS. Apparently being considered soft hasn’t stopped them from becoming champions.
Being mentally tough is far more important than being physically tough. A soft team wouldn’t be able to improve each of the last 5yrs, and overcome all of the liabilities that were present to become the 3rd best team in the Eastern Conference. In other words DRUM MAJOR FOR THE SPECIAL ED CREW, they out performed and finished ahead of all the so called tough teams except 2 last yr. If that’s your idea of being soft, I’ll bet all of the Eastern Conference teams over the last 2 yrs, except the Cavaliers, Celtics and Magic, would gladly accepted that kind of softness.
Isn’t it ironic that of the 2 teams that are considered soft, one finished 4th and 3rd in the East respectively over the last 2yrs and made it to the 2nd rd, while the other team won it all, TWICE IN A ROW. With those accomplishments, I’ll take soft in this instance over whatever the hell you’re looking for ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
GeeMack
October 11th, 2010
3:10 pm
Ken Strickland
You playing poker? Because you just went all in on Truthspitter. Lol. Hope all is well with you. You made some good points, but I also see where the label “soft” for the Hawks can be applied, and I think that’s why LD has approached training camp the way he has to eliminate that mind frame on this team.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
3:23 pm
Marshmallows!
KenS … Lord knows I love your passion and optimism
for All things Hawks!
But, come on Bruh!
Them Hawks folded like a cheap lawn chair against the Magic!
You can’t blame that on NOBODY but them players!
There are NO excuses for lying down like that!
To a man – They laid down!
bootsy collins
October 11th, 2010
3:35 pm
hawks ain’t got no heart.
Grandad
October 11th, 2010
3:38 pm
LD needs to see who’s gonna be with him?
If they are whinin’ now, they will be the 1st to jump ship.
So, go ahead & see who’s with ‘im & who’s agin ‘im -Now-!
“Leadership is diving for a loose ball. It’s being able to take it as well as dish it out. That’s the only way you’re going to get respect from the players.” -Larry Bird-
“Leadership is getting players to believe in you. If you tell a teammate you’re ready to play as tough as you’re able, you’d better go out there & do it.” -Larry Bird-
“Players will see right through a phony. They can tell when you’re not giving it all you’ve got.” -Larry Bird-
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2010
3:54 pm
DRMARYB-haven’t I said on more than one occasions that THE PLAYERS QUIT ON WOODSON? And wouldn’t that indicate I hold the players, not Woodson, responsible for what Orlando did to us? There’s nothing Woodson could have done at that point to prevent what happened. Woodson certainly created the atmosphere that led to the players laying down and quitting, but the actual decision to lay down and quit was strictly on the players. THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY WOODSON WOULD HAVE ENCOURAGED THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH HIS JOB ON THE LINE.
It’s obvious, at least to me, the players wanted him out, and knew his fate rested on the teams playoff performance. A poor performance meant he wouldn’t get another contract extension, and a rousing performance, like the one we had against Boston in the 1st rd of the 07/08 playoffs, meant he’d likely get another contract extension. We all know which choice they made, and the subsequent result.
At that point, and considering the circumstance and results, there’s no way Woodson could be rehired. None of us has any way of knowing if players went to Sund, or an owner, to complain about Woodson. Let’s face it, key players on teams winning NBA titles have certainly done it, why not disgruntled Hawk players. We’ll also likely never know if not resigning him had any influence on JJ’s decision to resign with us, rather than demand a sign and trade.
KevinM
October 11th, 2010
4:03 pm
Look for more of these comments from LD:
“It isn’t that hard to understand fellas”.
That ought to tell you what he is dealing with implementing his Princeton offense, which by the way, is what Eddie Jordan ran as a head coach. There is not a guarantee the system works, nor does it guarantee that anyone using it will be better. With this hire, the expectations should be to improve on last year, not take a year to ‘adapt’ to a new philosophy.
Now Ken S. you talk about improving for so many straight years, but really, was last year an improvement over the previous year? Regular season aside? The swap of Flip for JC1? What did we improve on last year showing the end results? Injuries against Cleveland versus no injuries versus Orlando? I don’t see the improvement. Don’t you think that is why LD now has a voice in matters?
What amazes me is how he hung around for 6 years and wasn’t able to implement any of his suggestions. I just don’t buy it. No one is going to be unheard from and just accept his lieutenant ranking.
It doesn’t hurt giving the backups all the minutes in the preseason if you know what you already have, and looking forward to hearing which combinations are out of the floor at the same time.
I still see Bibby is in the starting lineup. When is the change to Teague expected to take shape?
KevinM
October 11th, 2010
4:08 pm
This is the year of all about proving it was Woody’s fault all along. The players? Coddle them and keep them together. No other way to describe it.
Nothing else has been modified in this organization.
Melvin
October 11th, 2010
4:11 pm
No Layup Rule!
drmaryb, you are going hard in the paint (Wacka Flocka Flame style, he’s a rap artist) and it’s only the 2nd game of preseason. I agree we need to show more toughness this season but not to the extent where guys on going down in preseason b/c they did not allow their injuries to heal.
Although the core of this team is fairly young, they have played together for several years. If they need to win meaningless preseason games to gain psychological toughness then our season is already lost…
Melvin
October 11th, 2010
4:16 pm
If I didn’t know any better I would think that the poster Knuckles is T.S…LOL
Grandad
October 11th, 2010
4:37 pm
As a teacher your 1st day in the classroom is the most important.
You must gain control immediately.
Then set your expectations.
“Victorious Warriors win first then go to war” -Sun Tzu-
“Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the
first four sharpening the axe.” -Abraham Lincoln-
dstdeelite
October 11th, 2010
4:48 pm
Call the police!! We have a serial blogger in our midst. Jeez..
How many times a year does Marvin have the BG’s? Didn’t he miss a game last season for a “stomach illness?”
Samuel
October 11th, 2010
4:53 pm
This is exactly what you get when you undermine and orchestrate a coup an overthrow your coach or Boss. You come in all Gung Ho and try to prove something and the results are so many injuries.
HOW THE HEL_ are you still “learning” an offense and the season starts in a week.
Astro Joe
October 11th, 2010
5:10 pm
Co-sign Melvin @ 4:11.
KevinM
October 11th, 2010
5:11 pm
Some quotes from the Eddie Jordan era in Philly: are we going to see similar results?
“It didn’t fit, it didn’t work out,” Brand said. “I think with the personnel we have, the offense could have been set up for what we have instead of just bringing in a set offense in mind. It didn’t really work for the pieces we have.”
Is this the personnel needed for this offense to succeed?
“Forget the Princeton offense. We should have been focused on defense. – Dalembert”
I want to hear more about what is going on to slow down the opponent. I really don’t have a concern with any offense we have. If we can be ranked #3 NBA for an iso-offense, that is not where my focus would be heading into this season.
These kind of comments are why I believe in a wait and see approach versus lapping up everything Sund and LD are verbalizing.
We will know soon enough and like LD said, its not that difficult. I don’t like hearing about that. Its easier to accept the injuries as opposed to not having the scheme in place. Too early to judge now, but I can see us going backwards if this thing goes haywire early and we are having to deal with backups to fill roles.
Samuel
October 11th, 2010
5:19 pm
KevinM,
That was just a slick interviewing tactic that LD used to trick people like the ASG who know nothing about basketball. How do you think people like Jay Triano was able to over throw a good coach like Sam Mitchell in Toronto. People who don’t know basketball can easily fall for slick talkers.
Don’t worry, you won’t see much of this gimmick anyway. 90% of the offense will still be the same as it always has been and we’ll get the same results or worse.
truthspitter
October 11th, 2010
5:26 pm
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2010
2:56 pm
TRUTHSPITTER-you might not respond directly to my posts, but you do respond don’t you. And your inability, or unwillingness to respond to them directly isn’t due to your dislike for what I have to say, but to your lack of courage and/or ability to confront my posts with your very narrowly focused, negative, and often uninformed, single minded opinions of the team and 1 or 2 specific players.
All you’ve contributed thus far are negative comments about AHorford, JTeague and what the team can’t or won’t accomplish, period. Other than that, you might as well be deaf, dumb and blind. As far as the Hawks being soft, that’s the same label that’s been placed on the 2 TIME DEFENDING NBA CHAMPION LA LAKERS. Apparently being considered soft hasn’t stopped them from becoming champions.
Being mentally tough is far more important than being physically tough. A soft team wouldn’t be able to improve each of the last 5yrs, and overcome all of the liabilities that were present to become the 3rd best team in the Eastern Conference. In other words DRUM MAJOR FOR THE SPECIAL ED CREW, they out performed and finished ahead of all the so called tough teams except 2 last yr. If that’s your idea of being soft, I’ll bet all of the Eastern Conference teams over the last 2 yrs, except the Cavaliers, Celtics and Magic, would gladly accepted that kind of softness.
Isn’t it ironic that of the 2 teams that are considered soft, one finished 4th and 3rd in the East respectively over the last 2yrs and made it to the 2nd rd, while the other team won it all, TWICE IN A ROW. With those accomplishments, I’ll take soft in this instance over whatever the hell you’re looking for ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Strick-land,I don’t respond to you because you are a midget dude with midget points. I have never been overly critical of Al because I damn near love Al as a basketball player. My only knock on Al is that he whines about playing C at times when Olajuwan, Howard, Russell and on and on were shorter than the beastly C’s of there days. Bill Russell vs Wilt was more of a mismatch on paper than Horford vs Howard and so was Shaq vs Olajuwan but Olajuwan and Russell’s teams won a lot of those battles and Olajuwan and Russell won a lot of those individual battles. I am always critical of Marvin because he is a thief and deceiver. As for Teague, I criticize Teague but even more than Teague Sund for picking him and fans like yourself for giving him a position that he has no clue of how to handle. Teague was not primarily a PG in college because Ish Smith ran the position. Teague does not know how to run a team and I am skeptical that he will ever learn well enough to be a starting PG for a playoff team. My point remains that this is a soft team and poorly put together team and the proof is in the pudding. You are possibly the most shallow and ignorant person on this site. Find something to do other than respond directly to posters to try and make a name for yourself. Noone needs you to speak for them. I could careless if noone around here ever agrees with me but I know from time to time people will because I spit the truth while you are in a Strick-land that only allows you to move in areas that sugarcoat, tell lies, and try to protect the Hawks from well warranted worries and criticism. Call it negative if you want to but I call it the truth and something that you are stricken from understanding.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
5:26 pm
Wacka Flocka Flame!
Melvin LOL! Wacka Flocka Flame … Yeah, I dropped that group
name on one of my posts last week!
Hey. I’m not tryin’ to make the girls cry … But, come on
fellas … How you show up to camp outa’ shape?
Where is the professionalism in that?
Hey KenS,
I feel you bruh! You just ready to get it on!
Until we start the regular season, this dead horse is gomna’
take another whoopin’.
We ready for some hoops – man!
Sautee
October 11th, 2010
5:35 pm
Ramon,
From the last blog, I asked you this:
“Did you find a link to where Horford allegedly (according to you) said that about “not winning without him playing PF” yet?”
“C’mon man, if as you said, he said it repeatedly then it should be EASY to find.”
“Unless it didn’t happen that way and you hyped up what he said.”
And then, in answer you said this:
“Sautee, the fact that he keeps saying that he wants to play PF, and the fact that he’s stated the Hawks can’t compete unless they added more size to the lineup (which they really didn’t with the exception of Thomas) means he must think the Hawks would be a better team when he’s at PF. So if saying the Hawks need to add size that can make an impact on the game, how could the new acquisition have an impact without getting significant time on the court at C? As a captain, how does that sound saying your guys in the locker room can’t win as presently constructed? So you, Sautee, haven’t seen an article where Horford said they couldn’t compete without more impact size?”
I’ll answer your question in a moment. But first, back to your original statement which was in a post to Sec. 303. You stated this:
“Al has said over and over that we couldn’t win without him playing PF”
NOW you say something totally different. Which is it? You say now X is a fact and Y is a fact which means Al MUST think Z. This is CONJECTURE on your part. You do NOT know his mind, and to pretend that you do, while disparaging his attitude is flat wrong.
Now if you were to say “In my opinion, he seems to think X”, that’s different, because you are making it your OPINION. But that’s not what you said.
What you SAID was: “Al has said over and over that we couldn’t win without him playing PF”.
I say that is total BS and that Al NEVER said those words.
Where is your evidence to prove me wrong? I’ve asked, and asked, and YOU said that he said this repeatedly. OK, when and where?
Ramon, you are either going to have to back off of your statement, or show me some evidence. Or put up with me hounding you about it. I’m trying to remain level-headed, and I don’t wish you ill, but I think you have unfairly slandered Horford.
Now, to answer YOUR question, yes, I saw an article where he said he and Josh needed help down low. He did NOT say that they “couldn’t compete” without that help. In fact, when the acquisitions were finished and he was asked about it, did he complain? No, he said “I’ll go to war with what we have”.
That doesn’t sound much like whining now, does it?
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
5:51 pm
True Dat!
Sautee said this:
“Now, to answer YOUR question, yes, I saw an article where he said he and Josh needed help down low. He did NOT say that they “couldn’t compete” without that help. In fact, when the acquisitions were finished and he was asked about it, did he complain? No, he said “I’ll go to war with what we have”.
That is exactly what the man did say! Yep! Verbatum!
KevinM
October 11th, 2010
6:05 pm
DMB, you know this exists………..if Al came back and started complaining about what hasn’t happened in the organization, you think he would be having contract discussions right now?
Don’t you think the more JC1 spouts, the further he gets his agent gets from a one-on-one with Sund?
Al isn’t going to stir it up too much. He more than likely he was told he was getting some serious help this summer.
cp
October 11th, 2010
6:24 pm
O’Brien the sad part about that is Sund said the bench is what he would improve in the off season. I don’t see any improvements. The scrubs he brought in are just happy a team was silly enough to give them guaranteed contracts..
Some of you guys are reaching like Stretch Armstrong. I think some of you just post stuff just to do it. KevinM seriously dude where have you been? Did you not read when LD tried to leave the Hawks a long time ago but wasn’t allowed to? Did you not hear Woodson come out and say numerous times that his assistants tried to convince him to do some different things but he refused to listen. This came from the head coach himself. Not a beat writer, not some so called expert on ESPN, not some “source”. Woodson the head coach said that on plenty occasions. Samuel its clear that you want LD to fail just so you can say we should have kept Woodson. It has been clear since your boy was told to pack his bags. The funny thing about you is that you gave Woodrow 6 years to fail or succeed but you only want to give the new guy 1 year. I really hope Woodson gets a new job soon so you can go support that team and continue to ride his jock.
Rod from College Park
October 11th, 2010
6:47 pm
truthspitter,
“I could careless if noone around here ever agrees with me but I know from time to time people will because I spit the truth while you are in a Strick-land that only allows you to move in areas that sugarcoat, tell lies, and try to protect the Hawks from well warranted worries and criticism.”
Wow. I could not agree more. I find myself agreeing with a lot of your points also, especially involving Marvin. The TRUTH will set you free.
drmaryb (*_*)
October 11th, 2010
7:45 pm
Be Cool!
KevinM I agree, Horford will toe the company line.
And, he should, after all this is the business of Basketball.
I think Al really likes his team, and this may become his
team at some point in the very near future.
So yeah, Al is smart and he will – Be Cool!
Jamal, on the other hand is over-playing his hot hand IMHO.
My strong advice to Jamal would be – Be Cool young fella.
However, we don’t really know what the GM has promised him
either. There appears to be some bad blood going on here.
But, hey! Jamal has an Agent to guide him here, as he
muddle through the negotiation process. I hope he is
listening and not dogging this – injury?
Mz. Hawkdafied
October 11th, 2010
8:10 pm
Okay this info helps calm my nerves. I’m not afraid to admit I was tripping and freaking out. Just the word injury. I’m like omg, no.
“Hard work”! Go Hawks! Whatever it takes!
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2010
11:16 pm
TRUTHSPITTER/ROD FROM CP-you 2 SPECIAL ED ALUMNI must really have high and unwarranted opinions of yourselves if you think any OPINION you post is without question an unequivocal TRUTH. THAT’S TOTAL BS PART ONE. To say JTeague cannot ever learn to play PG is about as arrogant, stupid and self serving a statement as one could imagine. THAT’S NOTHING BUT PURE WISHFUL THINKING ON YOUR PART.
Tell me TRUTHSPITTER, if you think being soft is such a draw back, then how does a team like the Lakers, who’s also considered a soft team, manage to win back to back titles? During their championship yrs, couldn’t the Spurs have been called soft, since they were a finesse team that certainly didn’t try to be physical or over power anyone?
Also, since you managed not to respond to the question the first time, I’ll ask it again. If the Hawks are so soft, how do you explain them finishing ahead of every team in the East except Cleveland and Orlando?
Oaktown
October 12th, 2010
7:11 am
sorry if I am a newbie– big time Hawks fan but obviously I do not know all of the nicknames Twin (leg), Pape Sy — Is Twin Joe Johnson? Pape Sy? no clue.
joBjo
October 12th, 2010
9:20 am
twin is the big center that seldom got off the bench last year. he has a twin bro.
pop see is the rook from france.
joBjo
October 12th, 2010
9:25 am
got me to thinking. how’d you like to been Twin’s mom!
imagine dropping those 2 loads!
geez