Atlanta Hawks: The defense tests

L.D. is pushing them on D, too. (AP Photo)

L.D. is pushing them on D, too. (AP Photo)

You might have noticed a lot of the talk from Hawks camp has been about offense. Two reasons for that, both having to do with circumstance.

For one, my access to practices has been limited. When I’ve been let in to watch the sessions the Hawks usually have been working on offense. So it follows that most of my dispatches have been about offense.

More than that, L.D. has spent the majority of practice time installing his complicated offensive system. But don’t t fret: L.D. knows tough defense is what makes true contenders. When the Hawks huddled up at the end of practice Thursday, he delivered this message to the team:

“Defense is what is going to carry us through the season. I’m not concerned about what we do offensively. The focus of the preseason is going to be defense. We are going to look at numbers like [defensive] field-goal percentage and the whole defensive realm. That is what is going to take us to another level. We have the athleticism, size, speed, and quickness to be a top-echelon defensive team.”

While teaching the offense has been a priority, L.D. said the Hawks have had defensive periods of at least one hour at the start of every practice. That work includes individual drills and also work on situations.

“That’s important because the tendency for a lot of players when they are drilling, they will do the drill but as soon as put them in game-like situations they have a tendency to forget or they are not as sharp,” he said in an interview. “Because now you are changing ends and it is forcing them to think about other things as well, and the tendency is to not be as sharp. We are stopping them and pointing the things out and watching a lot of tape to show them the mistakes.”

That’s the kind of work that should improve Atlanta’s defensive awareness, especially in transition. If L.D. can get the Hawks to truly buy into a culture of maximum defensive effort and toughness while also making them less predictable on offense, the Hawks might have a chance to be a better team even with essentially the same personnel.

Hey, it’s October. Nothing has gone wrong yet. This is the time for optimism, right?

L.D. said he would track defensive statistics throughout the season and give the players constant reports. The “hustle board” will include deflections and charging fouls drawn–the Hawks were last in the league in the latter category last season.

“My challenge to them is going to be defensively every night,” L.D. said. “We already have some numbers in mind where we want to be compared to last year. That is going to me a primary focus every night we step on the floor. [The 'hustle' numbers] gives us a gauge whether we are being active and making defensive plays. Because I think that is going to be the staple of who we are going to be.”

No GM love

You have to look pretty deep into the NBA.com’s annual survey of general managers to find the Hawks represented. The team didn’t get any votes to win the Southeast Division (not that it should) and none of its players earned superlatives (those are some tough lists to crack).

Smoove was on the “also receiving votes” list for players who best defend the passing lanes. JC2 was among those ARV for rookie most likely to be a “sleeper” success.

J.J. received at least one vote for “most underrated player acquisition” but, confusingly, he’s the only guy on the list who didn’t change teams. And GMs were not allowed to vote for their own team or personnel so, no, that wasn’t Rick Sund’s vote.

Al vs. Noah

Al’s friend and former Gators teammate Joakim Noah agreed to a five-year, $60 million extension with Chicago that also includes bonuses.

Noah’s deal gives some sense of what Al might expect for an extension with the Hawks. Statistically Noah and Horford are comparable players, though Al is younger by more than a year and has proven more durable. The Bulls are more flush with cash than the Hawks but so goes the price of keeping young talent.

Horford said he talked to Noah before his extension was official and was happy to see him get his deal. Does Al think he will be next in line?

“We’ll see,” he said.

Nov. 1 is the deadline.

Two debuts

L.D. has been around the league for a long time as a player and assistant coach but this will be a new experience for him at Philips tonight. It’s just an exhibition, but it’s his first time in the head coach’s chair.

Does he have any feelings on that?

“I just want to see everything that we have put in,” he said. “I am anxious to see how we can do it against an opponent. I know I have been waiting for this moment for a long time. But somebody asked me this question last night about having butterflies. I just told them, ‘I think I am too old to have butterflies.’

“I am more anxious and excited than anything. If I came in with a group of new guys for the first time, maybe there would be more anxiety. But we have been together for a while.”

This is my seventh season covering the league, but I am curious to see what the Hawks are about, too.

It’s all new for JC2, who is hyped to play his first NBA game, exhibition or not.

“I’m definitely looking forward to getting out there and play with the team on the real floor and just have a good time,” he said.

Crawford said a couple friends wold be there tonight to watch but that his family will wait for the Hawks to play in his native Detroit Monday.

Out of sight, sound

No TV or Radio for the game tonight, but you can follow my updates on Twitter.

MC

215 comments Add your comment

Hmmm

October 7th, 2010
9:43 pm

We took the lead, Marvin got ripped then we lost the lead. 3min to go do four points. Lets see what we’ve got

J from the A

October 7th, 2010
9:46 pm

Josh took five stitches to his right hand

Rashard

October 7th, 2010
9:46 pm

The ending to this game should be interesting, considering both teams are using scrub lineups for the most part.

SteveW

October 7th, 2010
9:47 pm

Al’s had an ankle injury, so I’m sure he’s just resting it. Same with Jamal’s back injury. Some Observations:

The Griz’s starting 5 is good! Yeah, I know we smoked them, but Gasol, Randoph, and Gay are a quality frontline. And Mayo and Conley aren’t bad in the backcourt either. Thabeet may turnout to be a good ball player also. Don’t see much of a bench beyond him though.

Teague belongs.

JC2 needs some work, but with Mo’ and Jamal out, this is good for him.

Everything else about what you’d expect. No real surprises, except maybe Collins may help a little more than thought – he may beat out Etan for that coveted 3rd Center position. About the Griz’s – I don’t see the Griz’s being a pushover this year by any means.

Can’t wait to see what we look like when Jamal, Mo’, and Al are full strength.

P.S. All of you summer bloggers that kept wanting to trade for Randolph – good idea – good ballplayer.

SteveW

October 7th, 2010
9:50 pm

Melvin – we actually have 17 guys in camp – but with Sy, Jamal, and Mo’ out, kind of hurts our minutes for the 3 spot. We can’t even bring in Jamal and move JJ up – JC2 yes, but not Jamal.

J from the A

October 7th, 2010
9:50 pm

All tied up w/ 30 second left.

O'Brien

October 7th, 2010
9:51 pm

We suck at FT? Bring back mark Price lol.

MC,

I look forward to your summary, and LD’s comments.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 7th, 2010
9:52 pm

Play by Play!

Hey fellas, thanks for the live game action posted.
Nice to follow the action when not able to PC-Sit tonight.

Good stuff going on. Looks like THU, OCT 7, 2010 will use all
of his weapons this season.

How does THU, OCT 7, 2010 look in the 1st chair? Comfortable?

J from the A

October 7th, 2010
9:52 pm

Overtime anyone?

Najeh Davenpoop

October 7th, 2010
9:54 pm

36 minutes is way too much for a starter to be playing in preseason, even if he is the weak link in the starting lineup.

J from the A

October 7th, 2010
9:54 pm

Marvin finishes regulation with a double/double 18 points 10 rebounds 3 assist 1 steal 1 turnover … not too shabby.

J from the A

October 7th, 2010
9:55 pm

Teague looked good, too, finishing regulation w/ 18 points, 6 assists, 2 steals, 3 turnovers

Hmmm

October 7th, 2010
9:59 pm

Getting our doors blown off in OT right now.

Hmmm

October 7th, 2010
10:00 pm

Melvin

October 7th, 2010
10:00 pm

SteveW,

Good point on the injuries. However their are some teams with more than 17 on their camp roster…

Najeh Davenpoop

October 7th, 2010
10:01 pm

Solid line for Acie.

SteveW

October 7th, 2010
10:04 pm

O’Brien – my post exactly – are we sure we should have released Mark Price? Game would have been over if we could hit some foul shots. 60%? Bad – Griz’s 31-34, 91.2% – very good.

Najeh – maybe LD thinks Marvin needed the PT? Or is it just #’s with no Sy, Mo’, and Jamal? Maybe trying to teach him leadership playing with the 2nd team.

Najeh Davenpoop

October 7th, 2010
10:04 pm

On another note, why do they even have overtime in preseason?

kwooden1

October 7th, 2010
10:06 pm

Najeh, Good Question??

drmaryb (*_*)

October 7th, 2010
10:11 pm

Sounds like Teague and Marvin are ready to go!
Remember, Marvin is the only name I saw on our trading
block, so he has to start stringing together more games like
this.

If he can put up consistent double-doubles?
Ill take 10 & 10 all day from him!

Like Barkley said, “You can not win w/o the ball!”

Melvin

October 7th, 2010
10:17 pm

Law may have scored a career high on the Hawks….lol, Karma…

O'Brien

October 7th, 2010
10:19 pm

Law had 19 and 5. Pretty good numbers. but then again, Teague had 20 and 6, so that was a wash.

It will be interesting to hear LD’s take about how we give up 42 points in the third quarter, after we gave up only 33 points in the first half.

kwooden1

October 7th, 2010
10:20 pm

Looks like Acie is showing out. I’m happy for him, even if it’s against us.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 7th, 2010
10:21 pm

Get Buckets!

Looks like the Hawks will again have no issues with scoring.
The Defense is where I will be cautiously optimistic & watching
with my ole’ eagle eyes!

Too many points allowed tonite – no excuses!

STEEL(Formerly VenomSpitter)

October 7th, 2010
10:24 pm

I bet Acie was like “Yea I hope that punk Woody saw me”

Hmmm

October 7th, 2010
10:27 pm

Good Game. At least we didn’t loose to FC Barcelona. LOL

Hmmm

October 7th, 2010
10:28 pm

Bibby Had 2 points in 22 minutes.

Yarn

October 7th, 2010
10:31 pm

drmaryb (*_*)

October 7th, 2010
10:31 pm

Bibby apparently was not looking for his shot.
Nothing to prove there, we all know he can score.

Yarn

October 7th, 2010
10:33 pm

Does anybody really care?

Yarn

October 7th, 2010
10:35 pm

There is a basket weaving contest on espn if you guys want to switch over.

drmaryb (*_*)

October 7th, 2010
10:35 pm

northcyde!

Are you at the arena in Memphis tonite?
I thought so, tell us what you saw?

Yarn

October 7th, 2010
10:36 pm

Tell her Im not interested

Hmmm

October 7th, 2010
10:39 pm

drmaryb (*_*) , You don’t think Teague has a good chance to unseat Bibby? Maybe not, but LD didn’t say the competition was over yet. I’m cautiously optimistc.

Hmmm

October 7th, 2010
10:41 pm

Yarn

October 7th, 2010
10:42 pm

Theres only 2 people on this site who the f k is yall?

Melvin

October 7th, 2010
10:42 pm

Grandad

October 7th, 2010
10:46 pm

No other choice @ the [3]. (but Marv)
Even flexible parts:
*Joe & *Josh / LD didn’t ewant to put them back in.

Really wish Paps could’ve played.

Melvin

October 7th, 2010
10:50 pm

Hmmm,

The funny thing about your dime magazine link is, there’s a poster name Joe’s Mama that suggested he would take Al over Noah. And we around this blog know that Joe’s Mama is another handle for a particular blogger thats currently on MC’s banned list…LOL

truthspitter

October 7th, 2010
10:53 pm

42 PTS allowed in a quarter. Larry Drew’s disregard to defense showing already

Grandad

October 7th, 2010
10:56 pm

Projections: (hypothesis)
Al = 16 & 12 + 1 blk
Josh = 18 & 8 + 2 blcks, 2 stls, 4 asst.
Marv = 13 & 8 + (35% 3pt)

Would this be satisfactory from our starting front line?

Rev in Tampa

October 7th, 2010
10:57 pm

11 PTS allowed in a quarter. Larry Drew’s emphasis on defense showing already

Grandad

October 7th, 2010
11:07 pm

truthspitter

Who was on the floor during the 3rd?

Rev in Tampa

October 7th, 2010
11:11 pm

Grandad, its a shame that one quarter by our scrubs are going to drown out all the positives from the first half. I’m with Ken. This is going to be a very exciting year in Atl.

truthspitter

October 7th, 2010
11:18 pm

Who was in the game in the 3rd?

northcyde

October 7th, 2010
11:20 pm

No ma’am @ drmaryb. I’ll be in the arena on Opening Night when the Hawks go to Memphis.

MC’s write-up on tonight’s game should be interesting. We saw the good and the bad tonight. The one bright spot is definitely Teague. He more than held his own tonight, even though Acie took over the game at the end of the 4th and into OT with his FT shooting.

SteveW

October 7th, 2010
11:21 pm

Grandad – a comment and a question – Those stats would be waaay below the stats for Memphis’ frontline. Something to think about.

And where is Al going to get 12 boards from? He hasn’t busted 10 per game yet in a seasonal average, and hasn’t really improved in that category for a couple of years.

About Acie – dudes per was 16.2 last season. I still think he’s got a shot to be an average NBA PG (or maybe slightly above avg.). Or at least a solid #2.

cp

October 7th, 2010
11:21 pm

Looks like Teague wants that starting position. I have been saying all summer that it wasn’t Teague that I was worried about but our scrub bigs on the bench. Teague will be fine but I still don’t like our bigs on the bench…I see the Woodrow lovers are in full force tonight.I don’t think acquiring Dampier would be a bad idea. Our bench bigs are terrible.

Grandad

October 7th, 2010
11:22 pm

Rev in Tampa

The naysayers won’t drown out all the positives.

truthspitter is to our blog
-as-
Michael Savage is to right wing talk radio.

northcyde

October 7th, 2010
11:24 pm

When you go to ESPN and look at the play-by-play . . it was Zaza and Josh Powell that kind of sparked that long run the Griz went on. Too many fouls and turnovers committed by those two in that quarter.