
The Grizz had a tough time handling Teague. (AP Photo)
– This game was tough to evaluate as a whole. L.D. had makeshift lineups out there for much of the night. Marvin was the only starter on the floor to finish regulation and no starters were in for the end of overtime.
– There were 70 personal fouls and 88 free throws. The game lasted 3 hours, 12 minutes. I doubt there were more than 4,000 fans in attendance.
– But the Hawks had their regulars in for much of the first half and looked pretty good overall. After lacking in flow early, the motion offense started to look like what I saw in practice. The Hawks had 15 assists on 19 first-half field goals.
– The halfcourt defense was solid. Lots of help and recover, very few automatic switches. The Grizzlies managed just 33 points in the first half.
– Then the wheels came off for the Hawks in the third quarter, when Memphis had a 17-0 run and scored 42 points. But even that outburst was less about lax halfcourt defense for the Hawks, and more about eight turnover leading to 17 points and 15 Grizzlies fastbreak points after they had zero in the first half.
– “It was a terrible third quarter,” Marvin said. “It was a terrible second half, really.”
– The game was tied 99-99 when JC2 rebounded Darrell Arthur’s miss with 9.9 seconds to go. He dribbled the ball slowly up the court as the Hawks bench and fans screamed at him to hurry.
– If Crawford thought at all about passing, it didn’t show: He pulled up for a long jumper that was short. Did he know he was going to shoot as soon as he got that rebound? “Yeah,” he said with a sheepish grin. “I thought it was good, but it didn’t drop.”
– I’ll say this about JC2: He never stops coming. That’s how he played during Summer League and it didn’t change in his first game sharing the floor with vets.
– He was just 5 of 15 from the field, though, and there were some bad shots in there. “I was disappointed in how I played,” Crawford said. “I really didn’t get in a rhythm. I didn’t get comfortable. I probably was thinking too much, too.”
– Sometimes his aggressiveness paid off. There was a third-quarter sequence in which he missed badly on a shot but then came back to score on a nice floater in the lane. In overtime, he jacked up an airball but later in the possession got a rebound and was fouled.
– Crawford’s approach isn’t such a big deal for an exhibition game, and obviously he won’t be taking big shots when the games count. But L.D. said: “I think I am going to have to settle him down just a little bit. He’s an aggressive kid, an attacker, and that is intriguing. But shot selection is important on this level. I don’t want to take away his aggressiveness but he’s got to be more selective.”
– Crawford’s teammates seemed cool with it. J.J. in particular was cheering him on. “I told him to keep shooting,” J.J. said. “You want a guy with that confidence. He’s got a lot of talent. I’m going to keep pushing him and encouraging him.”
– “That’s him,” Teague said. “That’s what he did in college and it’s why they drafted him. When I was out there with him I told him I was looking for him. You see his heart when he took the last shot.”
– Teague went hard to the basket while scoring 20 points and handing out seven assists. The offensive motion creates a lot of creases and he’s good at slipping into tight spaces. The Grizzlies had problems keeping him out of the lane. “Coach Drew pushed me all summer to be aggressive, and I tried to do what he told me,” he said.
– “I liked the aggressiveness of Jeff Teague,” L.D. said. “When you see him on the floor with his tremendous speed, he can make things happen.”
– Marvin looked confident while delivering 18 points and 10 boards. He made 6 of 7 free throws and was active on D. He said the new offense suits him: “I love it. I know where my shots are going to come from every night. That’s every player on this team.”
– Jason Collins made a pair of long jump shots. No, really, he did.
– I’m thinking Zaza is going to be an overlooked beneficiary of the new offense. He has good timing on cuts and knows how to play the angles. But it wasn’t pretty when he was forced to take a 3-pointer from the corner with time running out in overtime. “I pump fake but of course nobody is going to jump,” he said with a laugh.
– Smoove left the game after suffering a cut on his hand that required five stitches. J.J. took a shot to the hand but he said X-rays were negative.
– Jamal (back), Mo (knee) and Pape Sy (back) didn’t play.
– Acie Law scored 19 points for the Grizz, including 10 free throws. “I’ve always been a big fan of A.C.,” L.D. said. “We’ve always maintained contact. When I got the job, he was one of the first people to call and congratulate me.”
– I’m out, Hawks fans.
MC
106 comments Add your comment
northcyde
October 8th, 2010
5:04 pm
Rev and Grandad . . . please.
We need TALENT . . . . period.
As much maligned as Amar’e Stoudemire was in Phoenix, we’re going to see how good that “system” is without one of the best scoring PFs in the game.
Even Utah wasn’t stupid enough to lose Boozer, and not add a comparable player in his place, in the form of Al Jefferson.
Melo’s game is perfectly suited for a motion ofense, due to his ability to knock down open shots, drive to the hole and draw fouls, and his post up ability. The Hawks don’t have a single person on this squad who can do all of that.
I understand being loyal to these group of guys, but unless JJ turns into a superstar, we’re going to need Al and Smoove to turn into bonafide top 20 players, for us to compete for a title.
If the expectations around here center on us being good, then fine. We can be the Utah Jazz of the East . .. which is nothing to sneeze at.
But superstar and star players are who play for titles. Not systems and slid role players.
People get so enamored with seeing how Boston does things, that they forget that they have 3 Hall of Fame players on that squad ( now 4 Hall of Famers with Shaq . . and possibly 5, depending on how well Rajon Rondo plays in the next 10 yrs )
Great team ball without superstar players may make you a good team, but it won’t put you in contention to play for a title ( unless you’re one of the best defensive teams of all time – Detroit 2004 )
If Melo doesn’t get dealt, watch how many teams literally break their necks trying to get him.
Samuel
October 8th, 2010
5:21 pm
Naj,
I saw that but didn’t look into it. I will check it out.
John Wall vs Derrick Rose on WGN tonight
northcyde
October 8th, 2010
5:22 pm
As I’ve always said with the Hawks coming into this season, I’m not worried about the starters one bit. It’s the play of the reserves that concern me.
Drew, in this preseason, is going to have to fine 4 guys on that bench that he can trust. This team isn’t going 12 deep. But we at least need to go 9 deep. That was Woody’s goal last preseason . . . to at least go 9 deep.
I just want to know if any of the new acquisitions can crack the rotation? The spots that are there for the taking are Mo’s and Zaza’s. You would have to assume that Jamal and Teague/Bibby are safe.
And let me say this too. If Drew goes more than 9 deep, both Zaza and Mo could see even LESS playing time than last year, which probably won’t sit well with either of those 2.
northcyde
October 8th, 2010
5:48 pm
I swear on a pack of Bibles that I didn’t read Rod’s follow-up comment to Rev, mentioning Utah. But it’s funny how Utah came up.
Last year, we were Denver East. The same issues we had as a team, they had as a team. This year, we may move up a notch and become Utah East.
October 21st and 23rd may be the two games that let us know right where we stand in the division.
- home vs Miami on the 21st
- at Orlando on the 23rd
We’ll get to see how the motion offense and new defensive philosophies work against those two teams. Hopefully by then, Wade will be at full strength.
And you don’t judge those 2 games by who wins or loses. You judge them by starters vs starters . . and bench vs bench.
For us to compete against those two teams in the regular season and in the playoffs, our bench must be able to hold its own vs their benches. If they can’t, then we still have serious personnel issues.
As great as that 1st half was last night, there’s really no excuse for some of our reserves to melt down like that . . . preseason or not.
It’s the Facts of Life though.
You take the good, you take the bad.
Grandad
October 8th, 2010
6:07 pm
northcyde
Not sure what you’re talkin’ about.
“We need TALENT . . . . period.” -nc-
When have I ever said different?
I’m always proposing trades that are slanted our way.
I want to keep Jamal;
*from previous posts:
“You can’t give away talent”[paraphrase]
“You have to get talent for talent”[paraphrase]
“Dou you know how hard it is to acquire talent”[paraphrase]
*all points made by me.
I’m pretty much on record as saying we need a Big!
[always tryin' to trade for one]
However, I do consider Joe, Al, Josh, & Jamal as talent.
I also see Teaguer as emerging talent.
JC2 as recently acquired talent.
Marv as mis-used talent.[previous coach]
My point -is- talent that fits.
Talent -must- blend in order to form a more perfect Team.
If you are refering to my post to ‘dukester’,
my rebuttal was only to his remark that he [Melo]
was one of the two best [3's] in the game.
Also he said “who wouldn’t want Melo?”
Well, I answered that question.
According to one of my earlier post’s, I laid out
several reasons why, myself or others may not want
Melo specifically.
If given an option;
I would rather have Battier & keep Jamal.
Rather than;
Have Melo & lose Jamal.
*(hypothetical) alert !
One has to be careful with one’s hypotheses on this board.
brigadierjerry
October 8th, 2010
7:00 pm
I remeber when I was growing up, I would argue with cats about how good Dominique was, and they would always say, he shoots to much, he does not rebound….. We did not need him to crash the boards because we had Kevin Willis, Tree Rollins, Antoine Carr, Cliff Levingston…., and he shot so much because his coach told him to. When Melo played on that Olympic team, with all of the other players in the league, he was clearly one of the best all around players on the floor. Don’t let that Denver style of play fool you
Rod from College Park you bring up a good point with nique. The reason why Nique never won he did all he could he just never had that second guy to help him out. Jordan had the same problem before Pippen came along . I remember they used to compare jordan and nique early in their careers but once Jordan got pippen is when he was no longer looked at the same way