Atlanta Hawks: The continuing education of Jordan Crawford

L.D. says JC2 learning it's 'a little different on this level.'  (Hyosub Shin/hshin@ajc.com)

L.D. says JC2 learning it's 'a little different on this level.' (Hyosub Shin/hshin@ajc.com)

The education of Jordan Crawford started at the Las Vegas Summer League and continued at “Gurg’s” camp in the same city.

Those were just remedial classes, though.

The real coursework started when Hawks camp opened last week and Crawford’s competition included an All-Star and Sixth Man Award winner instead of rookies and fringe free agents.

“It’s through the roof,” Crawford said. “One day you are checking Jamal. The next day you are checking Joe. The next day you are checking Jeff.

In addition to the difficulty of those assignments, Crawford is adjusting to a heavy course load. He admits that the two-a-day practices, long sessions and running of L.D.’s camp were “real demanding” physically.

“The conditioning is the hardest part,” he said.

Considering all those factors, it’s no surprise that camp observers say Crawford’s performance has tailed off a bit after a quick start, especially on defense. That’s a reflection of the quality of his opponents, his shortcomings as a defender coming out of college and his slight build now being tested by the rigors of banging with NBA bodies.

Crawford said his spirits are up: “I feel real good. Just get better every day, learn from the coaches.”

J.J. said he tries to “stay in his ear” to let the rookie know this is all part of the process.

“It’s hard, especially defensively, at the two coming into this league [and] chasing guys off picks,” J.J. said. “I think that’s one of the main things you have to learn how to guard guys coming off down screens and things like that. It’s tough.

“But he’s a quick learner. He’s been great in camp. I look forward to getting out there on the court and playing with him.”

Crawford, of course, is more advanced offensively. In the limited practice time I’ve watched, he’s shown no fear of going hard to the basket or taking shots. He’s hasn’t made a lot that I’ve seen but he’s getting open.

“He’s a scorer,” J.J. said. “That’s how great scorers are, man. As he learns this offense and learns the NBA game he is going to only get better. He is someone everyone is going to have to look out for.”

Crawford also has shown a willingness to pass. He has good court vision and timing when passing, something he showed at Summer League and that has carried over.

Based on limited observation, I’d say he seems to be a good fit for L.D.’s offense because of his ability to slip into space and quickly make decisions with the ball.

“The thing that intrigues me about him is he has such a mentality of wanting to be the best that he gives it his all on everything we do, especially offensively,” L.D. said. “He wants the ball and he wants to be in position where he can do what he does best. Now he has to learn how to play with all the other guys and within the system. But he’s a talent.”

L.D. added with a grin: “He is learning. But I am sure he is learning, too, it is a little different on this level.”

MC

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Rev in Tampa

October 5th, 2010
5:34 pm

A little humble pie gives the calories necessary for good growth.

Rev in Tampa

October 5th, 2010
5:38 pm

JJ’s comments point to his leadership style. He is an encourager. This is consistent with his comments to Teague a few weeks back. He doesn’t seem to get in anybody’s face.

Hmmm

October 5th, 2010
5:46 pm

Hmmm

October 5th, 2010
5:47 pm

Atlanta Hawks Media Day 2010 Jamal Crawford

Don’t know if this has already been posted, but this is Video Footage of Jamal’s interview at media day (Full interview)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeNL9_mTLMc

jason

October 5th, 2010
5:47 pm

from what i hear MC talk about him, it looks like dwayne,kobe,and allen need to watch out because this kid can shoot

Big Ray

October 5th, 2010
5:52 pm

Rev in Tampa ,

Excellent posts.

Rev in Tampa

October 5th, 2010
5:56 pm

MC, you find some of the funniest pictures of these dudes.

Westurd

October 5th, 2010
6:01 pm

This light will burn bright……but said the same about Teague, AC, and Stoudamire. Still its exciting!

M10

October 5th, 2010
6:02 pm

Thats why keeping Jamal Crawford is so important, we have to let him develop and not just throw him to the wolves.

Hmmm

October 5th, 2010
6:06 pm

I just hope Drew lets The Rookie see the floor unlike Woody has done in the past. I’d love to see a JC1, JC2, JJ, J-Smoove, Horford lineup. That’d be nasty.

If you think about guys who had great colllege careers and produced early inthe pros like Courtney Lee, Rodney Stucky, George Hill etc. I think Crawford could have a similar sort of impact on our team albeit in a lesser role.

Rev in Tampa

October 5th, 2010
6:10 pm

One thing that I noticed in this article is that JC2 is not going to be intimidated. He is being appropriately humble, but he is not going to shy away from a challenge or an open shot. He thinks he belongs at the NBA (not D-league). I like his attitude.

Michael Cunningham

October 5th, 2010
6:10 pm

@ jason: “from what i hear MC talk about him, it looks like dwayne,kobe,and allen need to watch out because this kid can shoot”

actually, i said he shoots a lot but hasn’t made many in the small segments of practice i’ve seen. unless you were just being sarcastic, in which case, carry on . . .

Grandad

October 5th, 2010
6:13 pm

MC

What is the latest news on Pape Sy’s injury?

Rev in Tampa

October 5th, 2010
6:15 pm

Good question, Grandad. I am waiting to hear how Pape will do against the NBA talent.

Hmmm

October 5th, 2010
6:16 pm

Josh Smith – “That’s What I Do” Skit #3. BLOCKS

Guess this is some kind of Hawks series’ that wasnt posted on their site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYPAP5hEwAA&feature=related

Hmmm

October 5th, 2010
6:20 pm

Josh Smith – “That’s What I Do” Skit #2. STEALS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkB4jqE5Xx4&feature=related

Michael Cunningham

October 5th, 2010
6:32 pm

@Grandad: “MC What is the latest news on Pape Sy’s injury?”

he’s still out. each time i’ve asked L.D. for an update he doesn’t have one.

Macaroni Tony

October 5th, 2010
6:38 pm

@mc

how is Jason Collins looking out there? Do you think that you could help us this year?

Hmmm

October 5th, 2010
6:45 pm

@MC Hows Bibby Look?

jason

October 5th, 2010
6:51 pm

MC

can u give us any updates on jamals injury?

Grandad

October 5th, 2010
6:55 pm

Mr. Cunningham,
Perhaps you may want to mention to LD;
we have our very own Chiropractor “drmaryb”
on this blog.
I’m certain she would be willin’ to pay
a visit to the Hawks training facilities
in order to diagnose young Mr Sy’s injury.
Then in the spirit of her sworn
“hawkocratic oath”
she’ll fix him right up!

jason

October 5th, 2010
6:59 pm

MC is it true that we are getting roy hibbert?

hearing some rumors on other blogs

zachdahater

October 5th, 2010
7:31 pm

SteveW

October 5th, 2010
7:33 pm

Jason – I hope you are correct – Roy would be a great young addition to this team – the young Center everybody wants to see develop.

The Truth

October 5th, 2010
7:41 pm

“As he learns this offense and learns the NBA game he is going to only get better. He is someone everyone is going to have to look out for”

Dam, I like the way that sound. I can’t wait to see his game (the finish product)

Melvin

October 5th, 2010
7:41 pm

Time to watch the Heat/Pistons… I think I will be sick of this Heat team by the end of preseason…

SteveW

October 5th, 2010
7:42 pm

What would we do – trade Bibby, Marvin, and Jamal for Ford, Posey, and Hibbert, and use our 3.66 Trade Exception or something like that? I do know Bird desparetely wants to ditch TJ Fords contract – and Posey at 7.1m isn’t much better – especially when he’s 33. If so, I say make it happen.

Or would ZaZa be included somehow….Jamal, ZaZa and Marvin? Ford takes Jamal’s spot (kinda), Hibbert takes ZaZa’s, and Posey fills in for Marvin? Ok, I’m sold, I think I would do it, even if it takes draft picks. Bird is not afraid to make the big deal in Indy.

Grandad, could that be the big trade you’ve been feeling?

SteveW

October 5th, 2010
7:46 pm

Roy Hibbert – 7-2 280, will be 24 on Dec. 11th.

Jason, got any links? Can’t find it google searching – not even a rumor. It does make sense for the Pacers though – I’m sure they’re concerned about re-signing Roy next season, he’ll be a FA. And ZaZa would be a cheaper replacement, Jamal would provide scoring, and Marvin’s youth would sell it to their fans.

SteveW

October 5th, 2010
7:50 pm

One site says Hibbert has 2 years left – ESPN news saying this is his last year? If I’m reading it correctly. Ford would be a FA after this season, and Posey would have 2 years left, this season and next. Man, i would do a trade like that.

Melvin

October 5th, 2010
8:10 pm

DWade went down tonight with a sprain hamstring… You never know when injuries will rear its ugly head…

SteveW

October 5th, 2010
8:16 pm

Posey can’t be traded until Oct. 11th, so i would guess maybe Dunleavy would be part of the deal – I know the Pacers hate Ford and Dunleavy’s contract – and both are expiring.

Any combination of Jamal, Marvin, ZaZa; Jamal, Bibby, ZaZa; or Jamal, Marvin, and Bibby works on trade machine. That is for Dunleavy, Ford, and Hibbert. Give them a couple of second picks if needed – good trade, if the rumor is true.

No Hibbert for Jamal straight up though – salaries way to far apart. So other pieces would have to be involved.

J from the A

October 5th, 2010
8:28 pm

@Hmmmm … The “That’s What I Do Skits” were posted on the Hawks site back when they were lobbying for Smith as Defensive Player of the Year. The funniest one was with Smoove “Cleaning the Glass.” lol

KevinM

October 5th, 2010
8:29 pm

Back to the main topic here, I really have a tough time seeing JC2 getting any minutes with this roster.
You are going to play 11-12 players/game? I don’t see him getting minutes unless there is an injury to Joe or JC1.
His minutes will come in the preseason while the starters play less than 1/2 of the minutes.

Going forward, he might be a guy to spark a lineup. I still want to see him on the defensive end before knowing whether he can matchup with other reserves.

Michael Cunningham

October 5th, 2010
8:29 pm

@ Macaroni Tony: “@mc how is Jason Collins looking out there? Do you think that you could help us this year?”

he’s moving a lot better, but please keep in mind my evaluations are based on limited time watching scrimmages. it’s been a while since JC has helped anybody but we will see.

Michael Cunningham

October 5th, 2010
8:31 pm

@ jason: “MC can u give us any updates on jamals injury?”

he participated on part of the scrimmage period today. L.D. says he’s questionable for Thursday’s game.

Michael Cunningham

October 5th, 2010
8:35 pm

@Grandad: “Mr. Cunningham,
Perhaps you may want to mention to LD;
we have our very own Chiropractor “drmaryb”
on this blog.
I’m certain she would be willin’ to pay
a visit to the Hawks training facilities
in order to diagnose young Mr Sy’s injury.
Then in the spirit of her sworn
“hawkocratic oath”
she’ll fix him right up!”

ha . . . forget Pape Sy–can drmaryb fix me up? my lower back has been killing me since running a 5k a few weeks back.

Michael Cunningham

October 5th, 2010
8:36 pm

@ jason: “MC is it true that we are getting roy hibbert? hearing some rumors on other blogs”

haven’t heard that. i saw the Pacers picked up his option the other day.

Michael Cunningham

October 5th, 2010
8:36 pm

@ Melvin: “Time to watch the Heat/Pistons… I think I will be sick of this Heat team by the end of preseason…”

it’s going to take you that long?

Michael Cunningham

October 5th, 2010
8:38 pm

@KevinM: “Back to the main topic here, I really have a tough time seeing JC2 getting any minutes with this roster.
You are going to play 11-12 players/game? I don’t see him getting minutes unless there is an injury to Joe or JC1.”

that’s the way it is looking to me, too. D-League at some point isn’t out of the question.

ANT BANKS

October 5th, 2010
8:42 pm

anyone care to explain WHY indy would get rid of a legit 7 footer, when they are a rarity?

KevinM

October 5th, 2010
8:45 pm

and the Miami/Detroit game………..The Heat are in control….surprise.

northcyde

October 5th, 2010
8:57 pm

Hibbert is not being traded. As suspect as he is defensively, he’s actually good offensively.

LOL . . I guess we’re going to trade Marvin and Bibby for Hibbert and TJ Ford now.

Marvin has been traded 5,691 times since he became a Hawk.

Rev in Tampa

October 5th, 2010
8:59 pm

northcyde – “Marvin has been traded 5,691 times since he became a Hawk.”

Hope springs eternal in the preseason.

O'Brien

October 5th, 2010
9:14 pm

Given Jordan’s struggles, I understand their unwillingness to trade JC1.

But I still think Mo Evans and JC2 could handle the backup SG spot, if we also sign a legit SF backup so JJ can spend all his minutes at SG.

But I guess thats water under the bridge, unless JC1 acts up.

Mike is back

October 5th, 2010
9:25 pm

MC, funny stuff on your 8:29 pm post on Collins…it appears…shedding burgers ain’t helped dude out much. lol

Rev in Tampa

October 5th, 2010
9:45 pm

O’Brien, I agree with your 9:14 post. It would help us be more balanced.

MannyT

October 5th, 2010
10:18 pm

I think I’ll start calling Marvin–TAD, as in Trade A Day. On the blogs, it seems that someone trades him every day. I’m sure there is a TAD in every NBA city.

Oddly, Denver’s current TAD is their best player. Probably makes their old TAD, JR Smith, more comfortable–unless he is packaged in the deal 8-O

Melvin

October 5th, 2010
10:53 pm

MannyT is back…

SteveW

October 5th, 2010
11:21 pm

I don’t think Indy would trade Hibbert unless it really helped them financially. I just moved back from Indy last year, so I know their thinking, at least what is reported up there. And they are dying to dump Ford and maybe Dunleavy. If they felt Hibbert was somewhat of a bust, they might trade him to dump those 2 contracts, and hope that Marvin/ZaZa could make up or more than make up for moving him. And they get a SMOY to boot. That’s why I thought there may be some validity to that post – but I sure can’t find anything on any blog Googling.

N.D.T.K.A.

October 5th, 2010
11:23 pm

JC2 will need some time to get acclimated to the NBA rigors so Hawks are doing the right thing in keeping Jamal C. for now. If JC2 develops and continues to work hard as MC has reported, Jamal C. maybe gone by the trade deadline.

As for the Miami “SuperTeam” I think they will only go as far as their bench will carry them. That is just an observation from watching the game tonight. They do seem to have some depth on the bench, though. Depth but quality of the depth is the question.