Atlanta Hawks: Pape Sy in the fold (Update: Sy and Sund comments)

It’s finally official: Pape Sy, Atlanta’s second-round draft pick in June, has signed with the Hawks after securing a buyout from French club Le Havre. Sy’s three-year contract is fully guaranteed for 2010-11 at the rookie minimum of $473,604.

It should be noted that for all the heat ASG takes for the perception that they clutch their wallets too tightly, it is believed the Hawks contributed about $125,000 on top of the salary to buy out the contract of a long-term prospect. You can tell L.D. is really high on Sy, so the Hawks spent some cash to get him over here now so they can start developing him.

“We sat down with [the owners] and told them we saw [Sy] in Summer League and we liked him and we wanted to get him in here as a developmental guy for the future,” Rick Sund said today at Philips. “We talked about the buyout, and they had no problem with that.”

It’s a good personal story for Sy, 22, who paid his own way to work out for the Hawks and was virtually unknown in scouting circles when Atlanta drafted him. He said he never lost faith that he’d end up with the Hawks this season even as negotiations with Le Havre dragged on for weeks.

“I am very proud,” Sy said. “It means a lot for me. I really want to play with them and win with them.”

Sy, 6-7, projects as a point guard for the Hawks. Unless injuries hit the Hawks, Sy most likely won’t earn minutes this season. But the Hawks believe he can better develop by practicing with the team and perhaps spending some time in the D-League rather than play another year for Le Havre, where he averaged 14 minutes per game last season.

Sund said the Hawks most likely will stick with 14 players for training camp since the roster is set and they want to get in as much work as possible for young players Teague, Jordan Crawford and Sy. Camp opens Sept. 28.

MC

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Rev in Tampa

September 15th, 2010
11:24 am

MC, can you speak French? Or can Pape speak English?

Timbo

September 15th, 2010
11:28 am

Good news; he’s impressed so far . . .

Snail

September 15th, 2010
11:29 am

A “significant” amount of money?

truthspitter

September 15th, 2010
11:30 am

Wow

He outta be as good as Granger any day now. We really got a steal here. Sund is the greatest ever. He never made a bad pick. This makes up for giving away a lottery pick for a 2nd rd pick and a trade exception. This is the greatest news ever. So happy, so happy. Happy, happy, happy. Pape Sy King of the League.

RomeDawg

September 15th, 2010
11:32 am

I have heard the name but I don’t know ANYTHING about him. Any loyal Hawks fans that could fill me in? Size, heart and skill set?

True Hawks Fan

September 15th, 2010
11:32 am

We need to get Eric Dampier. Legit 7 footer just released from Bobcats.

bgi sam

September 15th, 2010
11:33 am

what dimension will Pape Sy add? who’s minutes will he be taking? what was his scoring ave? can he play defense?

MannyT

September 15th, 2010
11:35 am

Good for Pape, good for ASG (as long as he isn’t the straw that breaks the luxury tax back.) I wouldn’t bring him over in exchange for the difference in cash for being a little under vs a little over the the luxury number.

I’d be more excited if he were good enough to be in the regular rotation.

Jay

September 15th, 2010
11:43 am

Why would ASG commit “significant money” to a bench scrub or D-leaguer instead of someone that can help us immediately???????

True Hawks Fan

September 15th, 2010
11:44 am

Pape Sy can make plays. He plays like a crafty European, very skilled. However, he has not played against NBA calliber players. I hope he can play with the toughness that European players tend to lack. I don’t know that much, but this is what I gathered from scouting reports and videos. Good guy, very ambitious, and very grateful.

please MC

September 15th, 2010
11:45 am

Go away MC. “It should be noted that for all the flak ASG takes for clutching their wallets, the Hawks contributed significant money to the buyout of a player who could be headed for the D-League this season…” What a suck up. Free SS.

True Hawks Fan

September 15th, 2010
11:45 am

The jury is still out on Sy. I’m rooting for him. We need to pick up Dampier. What do you think MC?

Ramon

September 15th, 2010
11:46 am

I think Pape will make the squad.

MC, my question is, if JC2 and Pape comes in and plays consistently during camp, do you see any chance of the Hawks cutting Mo Evans?

Ramon

September 15th, 2010
11:47 am

If Shaq wasn’t worth signing for 3 mil. There’s no way you sign Dampier for that price. Dampier has already stated that he will not sign for minimum. I think he’ll probably end up in Cleveland or New York. New Jersey wouldn’t be a bad place either.

True Hawks Fan

September 15th, 2010
11:47 am

MC! Any word on the Hawks picking up Eric Dampier? I have read that Miami wants him.

big sam

September 15th, 2010
11:48 am

Eric Damper a good addition to a squad i believe with some of the person-ell changes could all of a sudden become formidable in the east to challenge for the crown. Mr. Sy , jc2, Mr.Eton,jc1 under new contract all the help we needed personnel wise with a new system is good for A.S.G. they didn’t spend a whole lot except for Joe and improved team signifigantly

Hawks73

September 15th, 2010
11:51 am

“It should be noted that for all the heat ASG takes for the perception that they clutch their wallets too tightly, the Hawks contributed significant money to the buyout of a player who could be headed for the D-League this season (and will carry 14 players on their roster)”.

I have one word for that quote…COMMICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

truthspitter

September 15th, 2010
11:54 am

Pape Sy is the answer to Lebron.

Will

September 15th, 2010
11:55 am

Pape Sy: 6 foot 1 inch. Ave. 1.3 points a game in 40 minutes of play.

Will

September 15th, 2010
11:56 am

Just kidding.

Ethan

September 15th, 2010
11:57 am

Id would love nothing more than for the Hawks to redeem themselves…Im just not of the faith that they can. Lets hope Pape Sy brings something big. Its usually some money on the next Preist Lauderdale.

GeeMack

September 15th, 2010
12:07 pm

I bet Pat Riley sells Dampier on taking less money to play on a championship contender. Here’s the pitch: Hey Eric you can make 1 million dollars more and be a back up in Atlanta an ok playoff team, take a million less and be a starter on championship team.

Mr. Phil

September 15th, 2010
12:13 pm

I am rooting for Sy as well.

If he can contribute anything significant in the next two years, he will be the greatest scouting triumph in Hawk history and possibly the history of sport. If by next year he is averaging ten minutes a game, whoever found him should immediately be given sunds job as gm. No questions asked.

TheAntiMe

September 15th, 2010
12:28 pm

I don’t know what to say. I’m not used to the Hawks having a coach that actually sees potential in rookie players.

ToeKnee

September 15th, 2010
12:38 pm

truthspitter: Pape Sy is the answer to Lebron.

HAHAHAHAHA i love it thats too funny. I do like Pape though, he seems like a total coaches pick, like a guy with all the physical skills to be productive and a Tebow-like “do whatever they tell me” mentality, I think Drew thinks he can coach him into an NBA player and I hope he’s right, good luck Pape and LD.Go Hawks

The Real JC

September 15th, 2010
12:41 pm

To be sure, the buyout doesn’t contribute to putting them in the luxury tax, just the minimum rookie salary? And “significant money” for the buyout needs some context – are we talking sign Joe for the max significant money or trade the 31st pick for 3 mil significant money?

jeremy

September 15th, 2010
12:50 pm

Hey any chance we snag eric dampier who just got waived today. we need another BIG in our lineup/bench.

Where is the Center?

September 15th, 2010
12:53 pm

Fire Rick Sund!

JeJe

September 15th, 2010
1:07 pm

Wow a group of multi-millionaires paying a guy $400,000 this year!

All we need now is to sign Shaq for $8 Million a year or trade our #3 and #11 picks for A’mare!

Oh wait – ASG choked on those tasks

Idiots

Astro Joe

September 15th, 2010
1:16 pm

I’m glad that Sund and the ASG delivered the player that the new coach obviously requested. And it would be great if the Hawks decide to use the NBDL to nurture his growth.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 15th, 2010
1:17 pm

copied from the last blog:

Sorry, I forgot the postee’s I’d, but:

I’ve been saying it loud the past week that:
We Need a Bow-Draw Super-Star on this team.
The fans may be reluctant to believe we have that hidden
somewhere on this roster’s core. But, this would be the time
for someone to step up to the plate and swing!

vava74

Let that ole’ story die. Why give it new life by keep talking
about it! The fans need to grow a pair and move on.
I believe the Mr. Johnson’s comments are a non-story at this point.

Rev in Tampa

I love your contributions to the basketball topics.
Don’t forget to ask Mr. Jim Price about his take on the:

1. Super-Friends in So. Beach
2. The State of The Union basketball wise, re: player movement
Versus work ethic for the salaries paid comparable to the 70’s
and 80’s.

Terrific comments bloggers,thanks!
Gotta’ go pay some bills now – later.

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Rod from College Park

September 15th, 2010
1:19 pm

The ASG are not cheap, they just spend their money in the wrong areas, and with the wrong players. They had to pay, Joe understandable. You made Josh go out and get another offer before paying him, but you did not make Bibby or Marvin get another offer. You totally disrepected Chills, who was better player than Marvin, and then traded him for nothing. You gave Marvin a big contract based on potential, but he had done nothing compared to Chills, or Josh to show you that he was worthy of a big deal. It’s actually more a matter of respect than it is about the money they spend.

Grandad

September 15th, 2010
1:21 pm

The topic is Pape Sy.
Eric Dampier is not coming here.
Nor, do we need him.
Pape Sy will make the rotation and become our most versatile player.
Also, I suspect he doesn’t play very much D-league.
[6 games min - 12 games max]*(if any)
This is LD’s 1st win.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 15th, 2010
1:24 pm

from the last blog:

Bertie said these are the trade scenarios for JC1 from hoopsworld:

“1. JC1 to 76ers for Lou Williams and Kappono.
2. JC1 to Pacers for TJ Ford and Danthay Jones (or Brandon Rush)
3. JC1 and Mo to Cavs for Antawn Jamison.”

I like scenario #1 the best.

Grand-Daddy posted the identical TFD (trade for the day) yesterday:

And, he recommended trade scenario #1 with a third player added.
G-Daddy is all over it. Will Philly bit e? Grand-Daddy said:
“Like a beautiful woman, you will NEVER know until you ask?”

Aye … Sund! Are you back yet?

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Case Quarter

September 15th, 2010
1:29 pm

I know that the Hawks have to carry a minimum roster of 13 players, but if they send Pape Sy and another player to the D League, can they get away with having only 12 players in ATL on game night?

you got to try this

September 15th, 2010
1:29 pm

newkid

September 15th, 2010
1:30 pm

Love that parenthetical comedy MC; don’t think most got the tongue in check nature of it. It was tongue firmly planted in check wasn’t it?

drmaryb (*_*)

September 15th, 2010
1:31 pm

True Hawks Fan

September 15th, 2010
11:32 am

Said: “We need to get Eric Dampier. Legit 7 footer just released from Bobcats.”

I agree.

O'Brien

September 15th, 2010
1:36 pm

I am surprised to see the ASG spend the money needed for a buyout. But its a player LD likes, so I am glad they brought sy over. I hope sy works his way to being a contributor.

They did get $3 mil for the draft pick they sold, so they are still in the green.

Ramon

September 15th, 2010
1:37 pm

You guys must know something about Dampier that I haven’t seen. I don’t remember Dampier being that much of an impact player over the guys whom we have now.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 15th, 2010
1:40 pm

Grand-Daddy

I disagree with you re: eric.

He could really help this team moreso than Collins.

Section 303

September 15th, 2010
1:45 pm

The point is not whether Popy Sy turns out to be a good player or not. The point is the ASG was willing to put up the money to bring a guy over they wanted. They made it happen. I’m going to take that as a positive sign and give them credit for that.

It’s only fair…I’ve spent most of the summer bashing them. Have to give credit where credit is do.

Exhibition games are not too far away. I like watching those games. Will give us a chance to check out Sy with our own eyes.

Veteran Fan

September 15th, 2010
1:46 pm

As someone said earlier, Sy is the answer for Lebron, Kobe, and all the other big guard/small forward combo players that we can’t seem to find or shut down late in the games! Very tall, very athletic, very long arms can develop into a Josh Childress type player with better ball handling and passing skills. than Josh. Shooting is the big question mark. Shot well in some games in Las Vegas and not in others, but the Hawks have plenty of shooters!

Astro Joe

September 15th, 2010
1:49 pm

Ramon, it’s September, I don’t think anyone is suggesting that you can find a free agent savior in September. But (at least IMO), Dampier is a better low post defender than any other player we have not named Horford. Again, its all relative, he’s not going to be competing for the DPOY, but he would be a considerable upgrade in terms of defending the paint.

Snail

September 15th, 2010
1:59 pm

So basically we turned Josh Childress, Joe Smith, Mario West and Randolph Morris into Josh Powell, Jordan Crawford, Pape Sy, Etan Thomas and a second-round pick.

Sounds like a great off-season to me…

*sarcasm*

Harry Hawk

September 15th, 2010
2:00 pm

Etan Thomas > Bosh
Pape Sy > LeBron

Championship, baby.

Harry Hawk

September 15th, 2010
2:01 pm

Oh yeah.

Forgot about Josh Powell.

Josh Powell > Bosh

There.

Mike is back

September 15th, 2010
2:08 pm

MC, great news…I’m sure that cause the ASG a lot of grief…considering they pocketed the 3mil. Anyway, I like the decision to buy out Sy. He impressed me in the limited time I seen him. He strikes me as a gritty tough-minded kind of player with size and length.

I hope people don’t get too carried away…he looked good…but because of his injury you really didn’t get chance to see much. Dude definitely weren’t intimidated playing against the young stars of the NBA or more accurately…the young stars of Summer League. I can see where playing him in the DLeague…will speed up his growth. I was always an advocate of sending young players to the DLeague…instead of letting them just sit on the bench.

I think making JC1 honor his contract…and sending JC2 and Sy to play together in the DLeague…wouldn’t be a bad idea either. They looked good together in summer league…this could speed up both guys growth. Hard to image JC2 getting much PT until JC1 conundrum is resolved.

Najeh Davenpoop

September 15th, 2010
2:12 pm

“or all the heat ASG takes for the perception that they clutch their wallets too tightly, the Hawks contributed significant money to the buyout of a player who could be headed for the D-League this season”

Again, it’s not just that they spend money; it’s also that when they do, they spend it unwisely. I liked what I saw from Pape Sy in summer league, but if he’s not going to contribute significant minutes, I don’t see why they wouldn’t just wait for his contract to expire next year and bring him over for free.

Assuming the buyout was around the $500,000 figure that was floating around, that means the Hawks have now spent nearly $4 million on Jason Collins, Josh Powell, and Pape Sy, three players who are going to contribute little to nothing for the Hawks this year. And to get that money, they sold the first pick of the second round, who would have cost the same in salary that Sy is getting.

But supposedly it is on us, the fans, to support this ownership group regardless of how rudderless they appear to be…

(Aside: in the unlikely event that he DOES contribute significant minutes, or even somehow ends up taking some of Marvin’s minutes, I take back any criticism of this move. Right now that doesn’t appear to be likely.)

Najeh Davenpoop

September 15th, 2010
2:16 pm

Big co-sign of Rod’s post at 1:19 PM.