Atlanta Hawks: Their Crawford conundrum

Can the Hawks keep Crawford smiling?

Can the Hawks keep Crawford smiling?

Just two weeks until training camp, blog people, and all is quiet on the Hawks front. And under the circumstances, “quiet” really means: “Jamal Crawford and the Hawks might be headed for a showdown.”

As everyone knows, Crawford wants a contract extension for what he believes to be his market value or, failing that, a trade. He’s pushing for an extension both because of the past (his Sixth Man of the Year season) and the future (the looming specter of a new CBA).

The Hawks have contemplated Crawford’s request for going on two months now. But they seem reluctant to offer him a long-term contract because of the past (long-term deals for Bibby and Marvin last summer and J.J. this summer) and the future (possible contract extension for Al).

That brings us to the present. The best-case scenario for the Hawks would be for Crawford to report to camp and put the extension talk on the backburner with promises to take care of him later, no hard feelings. That way Atlanta gets Crawford doing his thing off the bench for another season and doesn’t have to add him now to its growing list of long-term financial obligations.

But you have to wonder how that would sit with Crawford. In his only public comments since word leaked of his pay-me-or-trade-me request, Crawford didn’t shoot down the stories and instead pointedly declined to even talk about playing for the Hawks in 2010-11.

That doesn’t sound like a guy who has any intention of backing off his request. Crawford would report to camp without the promise of an extension since there’s no real advantage for NBA players to hold out. He also would have incentive to put in another good year with a good team and hit free agency next summer with his value still high.

But Crawford also would see that he’s the only member of Atlanta’s proverbial “core” who isn’t under contract beyond 2010-11. Whether you think the Hawks should extend Jamal or not, we’ve all seen situations where players (or people, really) who don’t feel appreciated or respected by their organizations also aren’t as productive.

The fact that Crawford apparently is willing to play out the final year of his deal elsewhere suggests he fits into that category. Crawford’s “nice guy” public demeanor is what you get in private, too, but this, as they say, is business.

So this is the dilemma faced by the Hawks. They have the most leverage because they have Crawford under contract and are under no obligation to offer him an extension or trade him. The Hawks could tell Crawford they aren’t in position to meet his contract demands and don’t intend to trade him, and then hope Crawford’s desire to showcase for his next deal while playing for a winning team eventually will trump any hurt feelings.

But taking that stance could threaten the team’s chemistry and cohesion before the season even gets started. I don’t need to remind you that both of those things unraveled for the Hawks by the end of last season. L.D. already has a lot on his plate before adding a disgruntled sixth man to the list.

That’s not to say the Hawks will give in to keep Crawford happy but they obviously have to consider how not doing so could affect chemistry. You can see where both sides are coming from in this. Harder to see is the room for compromise if Crawford sticks with his demands and the Hawks stick with their fiscal plan.

The Hawks probably anticipated Crawford would seek an extension after he slid seamlessly into the sixth man role and turned in his best season. What they may not have foreseen was that the request would come with a “or trade me” addendum, which has led to this delicate dance as camp approaches.

Things are quiet for the Hawks right now but a storm could be brewing.

MC

332 comments Add your comment

MsDee

September 14th, 2010
2:29 am

LOL!!!!!!!! Girl u ON FIRE!!

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
2:30 am

Ms. Dee

MC sleeping at the wheel. But, that’s OK – I’m taking out the
Hot-Garbage with my gat til’ MC get back on it. I had to help
my man out – he can do it alone! He needed some back up.

Mary Ellen on Neighbor HOOD Watch.
I’m patrolling the troll and the 17 people he got running around
in his scizofrenic head.

rof lmbao.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
2:32 am

* he CAN’T do it alone.

It takes a village to raise an idiot!

MsDee

September 14th, 2010
2:32 am

Girl u are SO right…WHY IN THE WORLD he be working out in LA Fitness no doubt. At least Bally’s. He could forever workout at the Hawks facility IF he was here..right?? LOL

Renaldo

September 14th, 2010
2:39 am

I really hate to see Jamal go, but it looks like that is what is eventually going to happen with the Hawks. If Jamal Crawford would settle for a bargain deal (which is highly unlikely, and unwise on his part), he could continue to be a great piece to the team, yet I think he and the Hawks will end up parting ways sooner or later this season. While this would cause the team to lose some of it’s offensive firepower, there is actually some hope that comes out of this. Interestingly enough, even though the Hawks added a huge perimeter scoring threat when they brought in Jamal Crawford last season, they surprisingly were not much better offensively than in 2008-09. I see a few reasons for this, which I will elaborate on below.

First of all, I noticed that the addition of Jamal Crawford to the team led to an increase in the number of isolation plays that the Hawks ran. This is not a knock against Jamal or Woodson, as it was actually a smart move considering that was the best way to easily transition Crawford into the Hawks offense and helped to maximize his strengths, which involve 1 vs. 1 defensive breakdowns of his opponents. So, what does this mean? Well, for one thing, it took away opportunities from other players. In particular, I’m talking about guys like Marvin Williams who saw a diminished role and seemed to lose some of his mojo after the arrival of Crawford. Crawford essentially replaced not only the loss of Flip Murray’s scoring in 2008-09, but also a large portion of Marvin’s as well, which means that this reduced Marvin’s opportunities to grow as a player. Now, clearly it was not all due to Jamal’s presence. Both Al and Josh, particularly Al, increased their scoring production and overall stats as well, which further decreased Marvin’s importance.

So, where am I going with this? Well, I’m inclined to believe that the Hawks may not lose as much as some people would think. The Hawks have a lot of weapons that we don’t really think about at times. Although the loss of Jamal would be negative in some ways, it opens the door for a lot of things that many of us fans have hoped for, such as more opportunities for our aspiring and incredibly talented frontcourt of Josh and Al. Aside from that, this might really help out Marvin, since losing Crawford would likely increase his minutes and make him the other primary perimeter scoring option behind JJ (assuming that bibby will not make any vast improvements from last season). When Marvin has been called upon to be a high-option, he actually performed reasonably well. During the absence of Joe Johnson late in 2008-09, Marvin played the best I’ve seen him play in his entire career. He was actually aggressive and not only scored the ball well, but was getting to line consistently too. Marvin averaged nearly 20 ppg for a short stretch during Joe’s absence. If we could have him step up and we continue to see improvement from Josh and Al, along with some minor production from Teague and Jordan Crawford, the loss of Jamal might not seem so drastic.

RaJaH

September 14th, 2010
2:52 am

Well this Thursday I’ll be watchin the Dream in what will be the first Finals series played in Phillips Arena(I think?). Our star player had to deal with foul trouble, a concussion scare, and stitches to the noggin and we still lost in close one.

Hopefully the Hawks will be in attendance as a team and take notes on how to play the game with max effort and heart!

Let’s go Dream!

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
2:54 am

Ms. Dee

Hello? T.S. Is banned for life, so he has No One to troll with.
That nut basically trolls and plays with himself.

I used to feel sorry for him, now I feel nothing. Only God can
help him, God help us all! I pray he has mercy on him and
us all. Sad, hugh?

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
2:57 am

Ms. Dee

Child Please! … Jamal ain’t got no muscles.
He prolly run for stamina. He definitely ain’t bench pressing
nothing in no gym!

Najeh Davenpoop

September 14th, 2010
3:40 am

This blog would be a lot more interesting if y’all stuck to talking about the Hawks instead of talking about each other, whether you’re a “troll” or not. I find myself having to “get my scroll on” a lot more often these days. Ignore the “trolls” and stick to basketball. Just saying…

Emir S.

September 14th, 2010
3:45 am

Co-Sign Najeh

I dont talk much, I read more then anything else. Very seldom do I post. It’s come to the point where im tired of scrolling down and reading things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand and something compeltely different.

But what does it matter, nothing will change.

To maybe try and stay on topic,

That whole Battier for Crawford idea seems intresting. Ofcourse we’d have to add to it but intresting none the less.

vava74

September 14th, 2010
4:35 am

Publix: before posting nonsense, read a bit and educate yourself.

If we had not re-signed JJ we would not have the cap space to sign a “legit Center”, unless “legit Center” means for you scubs like Drew Gooden.

We would only have approximately 6 million in cap space.

vava74

September 14th, 2010
4:38 am

JeJe,

Same for you: check the clutch stats on http://www.82games.com and compare JJ and Crawford when the game was on the line (and is only the offensive part of the game).

Then, repeat after me: “Jamal is a fine and exciting offensive player but JJ is much better and has a much more complete game”

vava74

September 14th, 2010
4:42 am

doc,

Stuckey!?! Really? The same guy who is unable to guide Pistons into their own locker room?

Stuckey is a typical bench combo guard and that’s it. Destine to be a Flip and not much more than that.

The pistons are going no where whilst he plays PG for them.

If you had mentioned for instance Jarrett Jack – who I believe has some upside as a pg – I would have agreed.

Rev in Tampa

September 14th, 2010
7:00 am

Renaldo

Great post. Well reasoned and clearly written. I agree completely. Please post more often.

MsDee

September 14th, 2010
7:07 am

Ditto, Renaldo..really enjoyed the read!!

Doc Rivers

September 14th, 2010
7:07 am

When Doc Rivers leaves the Celtics at the end of year offer him coach and general manager something they should have done several years ago.

O'Brien

September 14th, 2010
7:16 am

doc,

Based on what Acie did in college his last year, I thought he was the right pick for us. He won the Bob Cousy award as the best PG in college, and he was the best player on his college team.

Teams like Kansas and Texas would game plan for him, but he still came up huge, making big shots. But for various reasons, it just never worked out while he was here.

I’m with vava. I’m not impressed by Stuckey. Would he have been better than Acie? Possibly. But even if we had drafted him, we might still have made that move for Bibby, because Stuckey is too up and down.

nes

September 14th, 2010
7:35 am

Well, ASG doesn’t have the money to sign JCrawford to an extension! It is all tied up in JJ (iso joe) so forget that happening. A trade will happen because LD and staff will be told to play rookie Crawford in his place. i loved watching the hawks on TV as unable to attend the games, but i am thru with them this year. I just can’t get over JJ’s contract after rubbing the fans with his true feelings in playoffs. ASG plain out doesn’t have a clue and team needs to be sold, then i will be watching again

wordsmithtom

September 14th, 2010
7:37 am

A couple people have mentioned Battier. YES! We’re weaker at 3 than 2….and Battier is the kind of guy who wins. High IQ; high character; high defence. Nothing against Jamal, but Battier for Jamal would help both teams. Potentially freeing Marvin to be “flex” 6gh man off the bench, but instead of coming into the 2 position and running ISO, coming into the 345 spots. I like this idea.

Can it work? Anyone know Battier’s contract length? He’s paid @7M 2010 vs. Jamal’s 11. If we kick in the player exemption, the money would be about even, wouldn’t it? Same age.

Interesting trade idea.

doc

September 14th, 2010
7:37 am

vava, jack never was a legit choice for us in the draft just like rondo from the point we drafted and where they were ultimately taken whereas stuckey was the choice between him and acie. anyway he might have fallen to the same black cloud other rooks did, dont know. stuckey got a lot of time to put it together with being the favored one of dumars. sure, id like jarrett thought he was pretty solid coming out of tech. would have been a lot more pleased if he had been gotten instead of bibby as well.

o’brien the jury is still out on stuckey, the law has spoken about acie who was an old man playing against kids as a 23-24 yr old senior when he came out. he was a late bloomer in college and that doesnt portend success higher up.

~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478)

September 14th, 2010
7:45 am

some of yall actin like that boy JJ is a top notch SUPERSTAR.

Realistically, the Hawks probably arent going to the next level in the playoffs if our #1 offensive option is a choker on the biggest stage and plays with little emotion and fire. He’s a good player, a star, but not a superstar.

JJ’s got to take his game up another notch. I’m not saying Crawford has a better overall game, but hey we’re comparing a star player and highest paid FA this summer with our offensively gifted 6th man journeyman, and that journeyman’s production wasnt that far off from what our star did. That’s bad enough to say as it is.

wordsmithtom

September 14th, 2010
7:45 am

Heck, I’d sweeten with a draft pick to make Battier happen. No contest. He won’t score 30 points in a game like Jamal, but he won’t score 6 the next either. He WOULD contribute greatly to defensive consistency. Marvin would then fill in as big man 6th man role.

Battier’s a stud.

Americus Jacket

September 14th, 2010
8:25 am

The most valuable trade asset is to have a scorer in the last year of a contract. Trading JC1 for a position player we need along with another contract during next year’s season, and maybe a draft choice, could bring us a player we need. Because the contracts in the NBA are usually guaranteed, it just does not make sense to re-sign JC1 to another extension at 31. I bet as a free agent, he’ll get someones excemption salary next year.

Buddy Grizzard

September 14th, 2010
8:45 am

Trade him for a future conditional second rounder Rick Sund.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
8:49 am

Najeh

You are very right. Sir.
I’m sorry for going there with all the silliness, however
talking about these Hawks has become very boring and I am
a comedian at best. I just took the bait and got on a tootsie roll.

And besides, we have beat the Jamal drum a zillion times already.
Everything abou the Hawks has been bantied, tossed and
traded and said a gazillion different ways to ad nauseum.

The only thing going on at Phillips Arena these days is:

THE DREAM! And, they don’t play till Thursday.
Again, you are right! and, I will stay on topic and ignore the
baited breaths.

Now, about Jamal being traded or not? …. Well …..
Nuff’ Said.

Wake me up, when something Hawks-Wise really happens!

Zzzzz … Zzzzzz

Astro Joe

September 14th, 2010
9:04 am

dr. mary, don’t you worry ’bout a thing… you werte on fire last night. Like the Ohio Players. Fire! At least he didn’t ask you to pose for a picture like those old Ohio Players album covers (works of art if you ask me).

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
9:08 am

vava74 said it best, when he said:

“If we had not re-signed JJ we would not have the cap space to sign a “legit Center”, unless “legit Center” means for you scubs like Drew Gooden.

We would only have approximately 6 million in cap space.”

VaVa74, the attention span if the average blogger is very short.
Most speak with little to no regards to:

Caps
Stats
Facts

But, like it has been said a gazillion times,
IF JJ was not resigned? We would have NO money per
The CBA rules to sign a comparable FA – no where close to it,
without dismantling the entire core of Al or Josh, we would have
no talent left to attract a Star player, especially after
The biggest and brightest Star of all?
Took his talents to – So. Beach. To do what? Yep -
Search for talent to play along side.

Thaþ was the real CONUNDRUM of our Off-Season.

Not, whether Jamal stays or goes and for who?

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
9:14 am

Astro Joe

Ha Ha! Thanks for the support. The Ohio Players? Now, you’re talking!

Sometimes, you got to wrestle with the Hogs.

Like Grand-Daddy says: you get all muddy and besides, the Hogs like it.

What’s up home boy?
We are supposed to stay on topic – remember?

Any new comments or ideas about the Hawks Conundrum and should we re-sign
Jamal? Or, give in to his veiled threats of: Trade me Or Else? Or Else What?

1-800 how’s my blogging?

Astro Joe

September 14th, 2010
9:28 am

You’re blogging in jingling baby.

If the Hawks trade Jamal, they need to do so for another expiring contract, that greatly reduces the team’s options. At this point, I say keep him and if he acts up, have him placed in the Tony Delk cone of silence for malcontented players. If this team can’t score in a motion offense without a career 42% shooter, then we have issues far greater than Jamal Crawford.

JeJe

September 14th, 2010
9:32 am

“Same for you: check the clutch stats on http://www.82games.com and compare JJ and Crawford when the game was on the line (and is only the offensive part of the game). ”

Whatever. Joe hasn’t dropped 50+ on D.Wade. Joe is going to make twice as much as Jamal over the next 5 or 6 years. That is where the joke is.

At least Jamal tries every time he’s out there. Joe takes plays off

O'Brien

September 14th, 2010
9:33 am

AJ,

If the Hawks had tried to trade Jamal earlier in free agency, they would have had more options.

One thing for Jamal to keep an eye on, is Al’s situation. If the Hawks do not offer Al an extension, then there is no way Jamal would get one.

And even without an extension, Al will be coming to work, and busting his tail. Jamal needs to do the same.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
9:41 am

Astro Joe

Agreed! I really don’t want to see Jamal leave, he’s one of my favorite
Hawks. However, if the ASKG don’t want to paly him and go into
The Luxury Tax (which, I think may be necc. to WIN), then I would
rather see him traded for a NEED than for Cap Space.

” I ain’t saying Jamal is a gold digger, ‘cauz he got needs …”

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~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478) said:

“some of yall actin like that boy JJ is a top notch SUPERSTAR.

September 14th, 2010
7:45 am”

Sir, you have a point in re: to some bloggers.
However, I said yesterday that the Hawks need a Box-Draw Super Star on this team! If, DWade is a Super-Star? And, most believe so …

He needed Shaq and now LeBron + Bosh to compete,
then, why should Mr. Johnson we expected to do it alone?
He is the only All-Star on this team that draws triple teams and is
The Only All-Star this town has attracted outside of the draft picks
and, let’s face it – is the best player on this team for the past 6 years.

vava74

September 14th, 2010
9:45 am

JeJe,

Yes, real mature of you: “whatever” and one explosion against Wade and for you is enough…

The Truth

September 14th, 2010
9:45 am

Interesting prospective from Etan Thomas on a variety of points especially this one :

Nothing against him or any other GM, but GMs say a lot of things and sometimes (I won’t say most of the time) the things they say aren’t exactly… Hmmm… How can I say this… The truth. Any player will attest to this. They’ll look you in your eyes and tell you that you are in their plans and a part of their future, then as you are driving home you’ll hear on the radio that they are looking to trade you.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
9:49 am

Aaaah! How did that work for him?

In 10 years dropping 50 points on a scrub team Never got
Jamal into a play off game three years straight either.

Basketball is a TEAM sport that requires more than one guy scoring.
Kobe dropped 80 points on some scrubs too – but his TEAM lost that game
As well.

What about assists, defense, rebounds, keeping your teammates involved?

PMC

September 14th, 2010
9:52 am

Meh, they can probably finish out in the second round of the playoffs without him. Really no reason to pay him when he isn’t going to get you anywhere you hadn’t been before.

doc

September 14th, 2010
9:55 am

o’b, i am sure i dont need to remind you the predictive value on winning those awards for success like the cousy at the next level for a fourth year senior is about as important as winning the heisman playing for nebraska in your final year. it isnt a predictor of anything. maybe at 19, yes, not at 23 or 24 which is how old he was i think.

Allofus

September 14th, 2010
9:58 am

The season The Hawks draft a true centre,a white not black,and not Zsa Zsa,that season forward would be The hawks break through. I say draft not trade. Hawks nearly had it and let it go.

JeJe

September 14th, 2010
9:59 am

THe Lakers didn’t lose that game.

Isn’t this clown Drmaryb supposed to be banned? Go eat !@#$.

And Jamal is FAR more clutch than Joe over his career. It’s not Jamal’s fault he played for sh!tty teams

Astro Joe

September 14th, 2010
10:00 am

The Truth, I read that too. It makes Etan look very immature (IMO). Imagine if Sund tells Jamal “we’ll take care of you next summer” and sincerely means it… then, the Hawks have a chance to add someone like Tyson Chandler for the exact same asking price of Jamal. Should Sund stick to his commitment to Jamal or should he do his job and try to piece together the best roster for the Hawks? I don’t think the intent is to lie and a player shows tremendous immaturity if they take the position of victim in that situation.

Astro Joe

September 14th, 2010
10:03 am

OB, it is the Summer of Sameness. Clearly, the Hawks had all kind of options to improve their roster starting the minute the Lakers won the championship and the off-season began. But alas, they decided to pursue The Summer of Sameness. We’re not blogging about trading Jamal because the Hawks initiated the discussions, but because the player did so. The Hawks have achieved their mission for the off-season, they have almost perfectly executed the Summer of Sameness.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
10:12 am

NorthCyde posted a very interesting stat on Clutch Shooting
Performers earlier this summer.

I believe JJ was in the top 3 ior 5 in that Category.
If I recall correctly Jamal’s name wasn’t even on that list,
or in the top 10?

Regardless, Joe is the best player on THIS team!
So, deal with it or find us another Super All-Star that works on
The Trade Machine. Or, better yet, one that the ASKG will
actually do.

The fan passion on this blog is terrific!
I hope the ASKG is paying attention to us, like we are them.

One can only hope, these great posters are not falling on
deaf ears.

The Truth

September 14th, 2010
10:14 am

AJ, I’m a bit on the fence with this one since the double-cross can work both ways. Even though Jamal committed to waive his option year and play out his last contract year as a Hawk, he is now (indirectly) forcing a trade. Would Sund act immature if he seems shocked at Jamal’s actions and take the position of victim?

O'Brien

September 14th, 2010
10:17 am

doc,

Although Stuckey looked good, he played at Eastern Washington University in the Big Sky conference. Acie was playing against Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma etc.

AJ,

I wonder if Sund would ask LD’s opinion about trading Jamal.

KevinM

September 14th, 2010
10:27 am

Funny how it is that people here blame Woody and limited Jamal now that he wants something the Hawks aren’t going to consider. Nice calling out the 6MOY and saying he has value for something else we might need………what possible positions could we need to upgrade? We’ve been content for 7 or so years with average-below average PG and C play…why change the thought process?

Truth is, the Hawks need both of these guys and don’t give me wait til JC2 is ready. We have no idea what JC2 will bring. JC2 will be lucky to see double figure minutes at any point this year.
Can he defend? Did he defend at Xavier? I didn’t see alot of that from the games I watched.
And I had special interest in watching him last year.

If you expect to get anything out of 2 late round picks (doesn’t matter which round, they are both late!) then you are smoking wacky tobacky! After what you got from previous rookies still on this roster? The only exception was Al, who gave us something his rookie year.
Let’s bring this roster into camp, because Sund has dragged his feet this summer and brought us the lower rung of big men from playoff teams, which could be worse of course, but we’ve seen this pattern for a few years here.
Since we aren’t talking about moving the core of Zaza, Bibby and Marvin, there is so much support from these 3 from the optimists. They better contribute more this year and I don’t mean during the regular season. 16 million dollars worth of salary has to bring more than they brought last year.
So if we are going to be the ones who will be difficult to match up with, then I just gotta know who right now in the East can’t match up with us.
I don’t think too many teams fear Joe/Smoove/Al and I think plenty of teams match up well with us.
Boston/Orlando/Chicago/Milwaukee/Miami/Charlotte (yep!)/Washington (surprise!) all can match up with us IMO.
I really don’t see the talent gap between us and the rest of the East. I’m not even discussing the West because they don’t mean much in the big scheme of things.

Now, would you guys be more surprised if we finished 2nd in the division or 4th? I think 2nd is more of a reach than 4th. Charlotte (Thomas/Jackson/Wallace) are arguably as good as what we have here). I can defend my Washington thought too should Arenas buy into the team concept and their core of Arenas/Wall/McGhee just might give us trouble as well.
I can see us dropping a few games down in the win column especially on the road where we were 19-22 last year.

So going forward, JC1 is not the problem on this team. Plenty of places to improve before pointing to him just because he is requesting an extension. You got your $$ worth out of him and there isn’t one guy on this roster who can do what he did for us last year.

And Sund and the ASG keeping silent works for me as well.

KevinM

September 14th, 2010
10:39 am

DrmaryB, if Joe is getting triple teams, then where is the talent on this team so many brag about?

I’m not blaming Joe, but I am sure not agreeing that there is a lot of talent on this team if he is being triple teamed. After all, we were 3rd in offense last year. How many teams come in and change the one area they were successful in? Expect to continue to see iso-Joe. I don’t buy the LD theory.

And didn’t you say Joe loved the fans here? Really? Did you miss his true comments last year? Was he quoted out of context?
Joe has shown how much he loves the fans. Its better if he stays mute…then no one can confirm his love for the fans or his disdain.
IMO, Joe came back because he knew he would have trouble selling that mega-mansion he built in a tough economy. This way, he keeps it simple and gets max money for a state that doesn’t gouge your wages. Much better than Chicago or New York or Jersey.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
11:01 am

Uggh …. JeJe

My bad, that was a typo. I meant to type 50 pts.
(blame it on the blackberry small keys). LOL!

So, You said Jamal dropped 50 on Wade? And, that makes him better that Joe?

What an active imagination, stay on point here – this is NOT personal
It’s basketball. I’m trying to do like Najeh said this morning
and just talk Basketball.

Kobe actually dropped 54 on the Clips in April 12, 2007 and lost was my point._

“The article on May 29, 2009 said he had 50 with 8 mins left
in the 4th and stopped scoring … Man he need help badly”

So, if Kobe drops 54 on Clips and lose and need help badly?
Joe doesn’t drop 50 and is 2nd on team in assists and loses?
Doesn’t he need help too? After all, like you said -

He’s NO Kobe!

Fundamentals

September 14th, 2010
11:04 am

Jamal brings up two issues in my mind. Do we want to get into the Luxury Tax or keep a tight budget. Some would say that’s a stupid question, but it will always remain a question. Jamal’s services would be nice, but not if we give up the $$ to sign Horford.

If we keep Jamal we’re loaded at SG. To me I would trade Bibby and Mo Evans if we really see such promise in JC2 an Sy and Teague to give them minutes to develop. Players need regular minutes in a real rotation to perform comfortably. If they can’t get them there’s no point hoarding them on our team when we have other needs. If you keep them all, send JC2 and Sy to the D-League to develop.

Fundamentals

September 14th, 2010
11:09 am

Joe has roped himself into a bad situation if he really doesn’t like Atlanta. Get real people. He signed, so he must want to play here. He’s got 124 million reasons to perform, so I expect he will.

Will he be a vocal leader to take over the team? Most likely not, but how far did that get Wade and Lebron? You don’t hear folks bashing Durant for being a quiet leader.

Is it Joe’s fault Woody gave the other team the playbook? A bit of variety might actually throw them off and help Joe get shots more easily.

drmaryb (*_*)

September 14th, 2010
11:10 am

JeJe said:

“Isn’t this clown Drmaryb supposed to be banned? Go eat !@#$.”

I haven’t heard any breaking news about me being banned?
You must be talking about your buddy – T.S.
Very Mature language and comments – keep it up.
You are a real Ass-et to the blog.

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