
'Damp' might be best of big men left once he's released.
There doesn’t seem to be much enthusiasm for the remaining free-agent centers. Understandable considering it wasn’t a deep crop of free agents to begin and it quickly thinned out after Shaq finished off the second wave of signings and now really looks to be shrug-worthy with Kwame Brown in Charlotte.
Brown’s signing also seems to mean Erick Dampier is the odd center out in Charlotte from among Nazr Mohammed and DeSagna Diop. As training camp approaches, the Hawks will look to see which vets are waived and presumably they’d be interested in Dampier if he’s let go since he’s probably a better option than the other centers on the market (comparisons below).
Dampier is owed $13 million in non-guaranteed money next season so Charlotte could waive him to clear salary but Bobcats GM Rod Higgins says he’s seeking to trade Dampier after Sept. 13. No team is going to pay Dampier that salary so he’ll become a free agent one way or the other.
From the AP via Yahoo! Sports:
Higgins’ next big move involves Dampier, acquired last month in a five-player deal that sent Chandler to the Mavericks. Dampier’s non-guaranteed contract is a big chip for the Bobcats, who are desperately trying to get under the NBA’s luxury-tax payroll threshold of $70.3 million.
Charlotte could simply waive Dampier and get under that figure, and they had planned to do that and re-sign him. Because Charlotte is over the salary cap, it only can offer Dampier $2.2 million this season, what’s left over from the $5.7 million midlevel exception after the Bobcats struck a two-year, $7 million deal with point guard Shaun Livingston a day after the Dampier trade.
The 35-year-old Dampier rejected that offer, but agent Dan Fegan said his client hasn’t completely ruled out returning to Charlotte if he’s waived.
“It’s not a closed deal from our perspective,” Fegan said. “I understand what Rod Higgins is trying to do. I have a good relationship with Rod, and I’m sure we’ll figure it out.”
The potential problem for the Hawks, of course, is if Dampier turned down $2.2 million from Charlotte he wouldn’t be inclined to sign for the minimum. Atlanta’s team salary is roughly $2.7 million under the luxury-tax threshold so there’s some wiggle room above his vet minimum of $1.35 million. Dampier wouldn’t come with the potential headaches that spooked them with Shaq so, who knows, maybe the Hawks would offer Dampier more than the minimum if it came to that.
So far the minimum looks to be the market price for Josh Boone, Francisco Elson and Brian Skinner. Here’s a statistical comparison of the four centers’ production per 48 minutes last season along with their opponents’ production per 48, via 82games.com. For Elson and Skinner, I used their 2008-09 statistics since they didn’t play significant minutes in 2009-10. These numbers come with the usual disclaimers about context, role, etc.
eFG%=effective field goal percentage
iFG%=inside field goal percentage
Dampier (1280 minutes played)
FGA=8.0
eFG%=.630
FTA=3.8
iFG=83%
REB=15.0
AST=1.2
TO=2.3
BLK=2.9
PF=5.7
PTS=12.3
PER=15.8Opponent counterpart vs. Dampier
FGA=14.1
eFG%=.500
FTA=4.6
iFG=49%
REB=14.0
AST=2.1
TO=2.4
BLK=1.6
PF=4.2
PTS=17.5
PER=17.0Boone (1045 minutes played; stats are for roughly 500 minutes played at center)
FGA=8.7
eFG%=.618
FTA=3.5
iFG=82%
REB=13.4
AST=1.3
TO=1.4
BLK=2.3
PF=5.8
PTS=11.9
PER=16.9Opponent counterpart vs. Boone (at center)
FGA=14.2
eFG%=.516
FTA=8.0
iFG=55%
REB=13.4
AST=3.7
TO=3.3
BLK=1.9
PF=5.0
PTS=20.0
PER=20.5Skinner (roughly 340 minutes played at center)
FGA=8.4
eFG%=.397
FTA=3.3
iFG=55%
REN=12.2
AST=1.6
BLK=2.7
PF=5.9
PTS=8.5
PER=8.7Opponent production vs. Skinner (at center)
FGA=14.3
eFG%=.495
FTA=7.2
iFG=56%
REB=15.9
AST=2.6
TO=3.0
BLK=2.6
PF=4.5
PTS=19.1
PER=18.7Elson (977 minutes played, all but a handful at center)
FGA eFG% FTA iFG REB AST TO BLK PF PTS PER
FGA=8.2
eFG=.509
FTA=1.9
iFG=51%
REB=11.3
AST=1.5
TO=2.4
BLK=1.8
PF=7.2
PTS=9.9
PER=11.8Opponent counterpart vs. Elson
FGA=13.1
eFG%=0.572
FTA=6.0
iFG=57%
REB=13.9
AST=2.3
TO=2.6
BLK=1.9
PF=5.9
PTS=19.4
PER=20.7
A comparison of the four centers via basketballreference.com shows that Dampier comes out ahead in true shooting percentage (accounts for free throws), rebounding percentage, block percentage, offensive and defensive ratings and win shares. He’s good on the offensive glass, efficient scoring at the rim (and smart enough to almost never attempt shots away from the basket), doesn’t foul very much despite the good block rate and has the size to contend with the East’s post bangers.
Boone’s Synergy numbers as a post defender are pretty solid, suggesting he can hold his own down there with his length and relatively slight frame. He’s still only 25, too. But there doesn’t look to be an upward trend in his production. And it’s not like the Hawks are looking to give out a long-term deal, anyway.
Dampier spent years as a starter in the Mavericks’ winning program. Boone was a rookie on New Jersey’s ‘06-’07 playoffs squad. Elson played 20 postseason games for San Antonio’s 2007 champion. Skinner’s teams were bounced from the first round three out of four times; he was a bit player for Philadelphia’s ‘02-’03 team that made the second round.
Dampier seems to be a pretty low-maintenance vet. During the 2006 Finals, us hacks kept trying to bait him into verbally sparring with Shaq after he’d once famously called him “Ericka” Dampier. Dampier wouldn’t bite and was dang near emotionless when talking about. As I recall, he ended up being pretty solid off the bench against the Heat after not playing in the West finals.
So I guess all of this is a long way of saying Dampier appears to be a better option than the vet free agents available at the moment. I’d give Dampier the edge over Boone because of his size, defense, efficient scoring and an amazingly single-minded focus on his role. He’s a solid pro who might come at a reasonable price, which of course means there should be a market for him once he’s finally released.
MC
208 comments Add your comment
Rev in Tampa
August 27th, 2010
5:14 pm
just SHOOT me, being blown out by historic proportions and being embarassed on the national stage by Orlando in the playoffs is a major step back. Drew’s hiring was the most necessary move this off-season next to JJ resign.
Rufus1
August 27th, 2010
5:17 pm
Grandad
If anyone questions why Woody was fired this statement sums up his offensive coaching.
“He still doesn’t have a great idea of what a good shot is or understand that his jumper doesn’t qualify as one in most situations. Granted, one must also point out that the Hawks’ coaching staff constantly leaves him in positions to spot up on the perimeter — what do they think is going to happen?”
Grandad
August 27th, 2010
5:40 pm
Rufus1
Perfect! That pretty much nailed it.
Rev in Tampa
August 27th, 2010
6:14 pm
MC posted a new article.
Ken Strickland
August 27th, 2010
6:54 pm
TRUTH-if you’ll notice, the majority of my complaints or attacks are against the negative attitudes fans and people bring. Look, every NBA team has weaknesses or problems, even the 2 time defending NBA Champion Lakers. The key to the success of teams like the Lakers is their ability to focus, and get their opponents to focus, on what they do best, not what they don’t do well.
So many of our fans fall into the same mental trap that Woodson fell into. They look at what other teams do well, and focus on trying to stop that. That’s why LDrew announced that would no longer be the focus of this team under his watch. We’ll focus on trying to neutralize teams like the Lakers, with their twin towers, by forcing them to match the speed, quickness and athleticism of our starting front line.
I’ll say this and then I’m through talking about my problems, because there are people far worse off than me. A couple of days after suffering my stroke, the nurse came into my room and said something to me, I don’t remember what she said. I don’t even remember what my response was, but she felt it was serious enough to sound the suicide alarm.
They immediately brought in a psychiatrist, who preceded to turn my negative attitude and approach into a positive one. I went from despair and being suicidal to being positive and hard working. The results were unbelievable. IT WAS ALL BASED ON MY ATTITUDE AND APPROACH. It’s just difficult for me to hear fans try and be so confident and adamant about what someone else can’t or won’t do.
There isn’t a player on our team that can’t improve with the right motivation and opportunity. The addition of JoCrawford and JPowell gives us more speed, quickness and athleticism than we had last yr. The promotion of LDrew to HC gives us more depth and versatility, because he’s not afraid to utilize his bench or his younger players.
Orlando is the only Eastern Conference team that doesn’t have to prove they’re better than us, and despite all of the hype, Miami hasn’t proven a thing yet. I really like the accumulation of talent on our team, and I love our HC, his philosophy, attitude and approach. I’ll bet our players do as well.
IT’S JUST A GM PEOPLE. THINK POSITIVE!!!!!!
drmaryb (*_*)
August 27th, 2010
8:03 pm
JoJo said:
“Forget Melo…Get Billups…That’s who we need…Leadership skills…Better offensive PG…Better defensive PG.
Also, I wonder how Al Harrington feels signing a 5-yr deal right before they blow that team up.”
Enthusiastic Co-Sign!
Billups is the Big Ticket in Denver – We need Mr. Big Shot!
To have any shot at winning! JoJo laid out the rationale.
JoJo I imagine Harrington feels much like Byron Scott – DUPED!
It sound like Billups may be untouchable based on who they want shipped out!
J.R. Smith case was just re-opened by the D.A. (we don’t need his Ish)
unless we can get him for a Marta Bus Pass!
ugg
August 31st, 2010
10:44 pm
Helpful material shared I’m very delighted tochi flat irons go through this particular article..
Hawks fan 101
September 11th, 2010
11:39 am
Trade Erick Dampier for Jamal Crawford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the bobcats need a scorer and the Atlanta Hawks need a big man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! makes sense for both teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bobcats: Jamal Crawford
Hawks: Erick Dampier