
Teague will have to go all out for gig.
You might have noticed Bob Bender stood in for Bibby during Camp Drew and figured that means Bibby, not Teague, heads into 2010-11 as the starting point guard.
And you’d be right.
When Hawks camp opens on Sept. 28, Bibby will be the incumbent at point guard. Rook’ is going to have to take the job from him.
“He’s got to earn that,” L.D. said. “It’s not just going to be handed to him. If he proves it, he has an opportunity. I will come back with the starting lineup we’ve had in the past. Unless somebody clearly, clearly beats somebody out, [then] that’s something I would have to take a look at. But I am going with the normal guys [to start].”
That’s not surprising since Hawks coaches spent much of Summer League saying they’d like to see Teague be more assertive. Plus, Teague has yet to do anything to show that he deserves the job. There’s a chicken/egg element to it–did he never really get the chance to prove he’s ready to be lead dog, or did he never really get the chance to be lead dog because he’s just not ready? Now he gets a real shot to show he deserves the gig, and it probably wouldn’t be good for L.D. or the team to bench a popular vet like Bibby until that happens (if it does).
Also remember Bibby still has value as a good spot-up shooter with a low turnover percentage. That’s two areas where Teague needs work. On the flip side Teague is a better defender, can push the pace and should be able to set up baskets as he learns to play under control (he actually posted a higher assist percentage than Bibby).
It’s probably best not to get too caught up in which guy starts, anyway. Bibby played a career-low in minutes last season and didn’t always finish games. Those trends should continue. L.D. is going to give Teague an opportunity to run with the starters and he’s said he will be patient. The rest is up to Teague.
– Steve Rosenberry officially joined the Blazers as an assistant GM to Rich Cho. It’s a promotion for Rosenberry, who was director of pro personnel/college scouting for the Hawks.
Hawks assistant GM Dave Pendergraft is a candidate for GM jobs in Denver and Phoenix.
– For those who have asked, Josh Powell has picked jersey No. 12.
MC
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Jason
August 13th, 2010
6:52 pm
trade bibby and get a center like brook lopez
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
6:52 pm
@Paddy – “We are still waiting for the ASG to go after free agents aggressively. Is that not what we heard at the start of the free agent period? Liars!”
The Hawks made the most expensive free agency signing of the off-season. And they did it more quickly than I had expected. With that signing they put the Hawks right back in the playoffs.
I have heard several on this blog say that the Hawks lost ground this off-season because the Heat got better. But the Cavs got worse. I don’t know if the Celtics got better. I do know they got older. I reject the idea that the Bulls or Bucks surpassed the Hawks, but that’s only my opinion… firmly held.
With the signing of JJ, the Hawks made tremendous strides. They would have fallen out of the top tier of teams in the East had they not signed him. That counts for a lot! After JJ, NO OTHER free agents that the Hawks could afford were available who would move the Hawks into an ELITE status. (I am leaving Shaq out of the equation for the sake of argument – I will address him in a subsequent paragraph).
We need another piece of the puzzle to put this team into an elite status. The market dictated that we were not going to get that piece through free-agency. After the Heat, Bulls, Knicks, & Nets cleared all that cap-space (raising the hopes of all their fans) they assured themselves of the cream of the free-agency crop. The Hawks couldn’t compete with them after they signed JJ. But they did sign JJ. They did it so aggressively that they did not even give the other teams the chance to tempt him away. That counts for a lot.
Shaq would have improved the Hawks, but would he have pushed them into an elite status? That is very debatable – and so we have debated. I don’t think he would have.
So we are left with the possibility of a future trade or not. I believe the Hawks will make a trade. But I am expecting/hoping for a trade that will really propel us forward toward an elite status. I believe that they will get more value if they sit on their hands right now. And since money can’t simply be printed (except by our wasteful govt), ‘value’ is a significant word.
Our trade bait is anybody on the Hawks but Horford, Johnson, Smith, & Teague (assuming he develops).
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
7:02 pm
I love seeing the trade possiblities that are occasionally posted on the blog. They are a nice break in the back-&-forth of the discussion. They even start other threads of interesting discussion. But I have one question I ask every time I see a possible trade posting. Has anyone ever successfully predicted a trade??? I’m not talking about a prediction based on rumors. I’m talking about a legitimate prediction.
Did anyone on this blog predict the trade for Jamaal Crawford?
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
7:11 pm
I’ll broaden my question. Has anybody on this blog successfully predicted a trade between any two NBA teams?
My larger point is, the Hawks have more great options than we can possibly predict when it comes to a trade. It is **irrational** for us to be negative toward the Hawks when the possiblity for such improvement lies before us in the future. For you to be negative towards the Hawks, and hope to persuade others on this blog to your point of view, you must PROVE that the Hawks will, WITHOUT A DOUBT, do nothing more to improve this team before the trade deadline. Since you can’t prove that, then the only **rational** attitude you as a fan should have is optimism.
drmaryb ^•^
August 13th, 2010
7:37 pm
ding!
Hmmm
August 13th, 2010
7:38 pm
uh oh, lol
northcyde
August 13th, 2010
9:06 pm
Just some things for you to think about Rev:
- You are correct about the JJ signing. We had to do that. If we didn’t, we’re not only dropping to a lower tier playoff team, JJ would elevate some other team over us. If JJ went to Chicago, and they were still able to secure Boozer, the Rose – Johnson – Boozer trio, that would be a poor man’s version of the group they assembled in Miami. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd best trio of players in the league.
- But the reason why some ( not me, but some ) people think that Milwaukee and Chicago are a threat to us . . . is because those two teams now possibly possess the ability to consistently beat average to below average teams, while breaking close to even vs good teams.
That’s exactly what the Hawks can now do. Our last obstacle as a regular season team, is to win on the road more than 50% of the time. 34 home wins makes us an elite team . . . at home. But being below .500 on the road, combined with the fact that we can lose to anybody on the road, is what keeps us from being a 57+ win ( elite ) team.
The Hawks, I believe, are better in a head to head matchup vs both Milwaukee and Chicago. But the real question will be can both of those teams become 30+ win home teams, and reach at least .500 on the road. If they can, we’ll be in a position battle with those two, while they battle each other for a division title.
Sautee
August 13th, 2010
9:07 pm
Y’all are forgetting that Bibby ran a motion offense at SAC under Adelman. If Teague doesn’t start, he’ll have an excellent mentor showing him the ropes.
Also, there’s this: When Bibby was traded here we IMMEDIATELY dropped our turnovers by almost 2 per game. That’s crucial in a tight game where two possessions can make the difference. Yes, his defense has suffered a falling off in the last season and half, but he still takes care of the ball, and has vastly more experience than Teague. If he can make his outside shot consistently (which he did NOT last year), his defensive failings will be somewhat offset.
That said, I fully expect Teague to be starting by mid-January if not before. If NOT, we need to trade JC1 before the trade deadline for a starting PG.
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
9:22 pm
Northcyde, I agree with you on the need to play well on the road. I addressed this issue on a previous blog. The Hawks respond to the hometown cheers. Only 7 home losses last year in the reg season; that’s crazy good. But the dispairity on the road is staggering. So I have concluded the Hawks have a mind/heart issue. The best way to address this is by conditioning (mind/heart over body) and personal accounability from the coach. And this seems to be exactly what Drew is emphasizing.
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
9:26 pm
Sautee, I agree. We have to evaluate our needs before we start getting rid of all our assets.
Sautee
August 13th, 2010
9:29 pm
Looks like somebody is testing the waters.
Dr. Callemout
August 13th, 2010
9:35 pm
Someone’s baaaaccckk!
Sautee
August 13th, 2010
9:43 pm
Rev, I think our PG “problem” far eclipses our “backup center” problem. After all, we DO have an All-Star at Center.
If I had to choose to use Jamal’s value in a trade (which I’d be hesitant to do, but he DOES have an expiring contract) then I’d rather that trade help our greatest need. Maybe someone like Hinrich who is clever and makes good decisions and makes too much money to be coming off the bench behind Wall.
Of course, in my mind Bibby makes too much to be coming off the bench too, but I suspect he’ll be here all year and be moved next off season when he’ll have an expiring contract.
ant banks
August 13th, 2010
9:59 pm
larry drew should know teague better than anyone. he coached teague and the 2nd unit in practice last yr. apparently teague hasn’t shown much in practice for larry to say this publicly.
i am wonderin’ about this motion offense. larry ran this offense in practice. how did he perform against the 1 team? did they blow the 1st team out on a regular basis? if so, woody was a fool to not encorporate some of the motion offense into the iso. if it wasn’t successful against the 1st team in practice, what makes larry drew think that it will work against other teams in the league?
SteveW
August 13th, 2010
10:02 pm
JeJe – Thank you for correcting my error – you are correct.
Michael Cunningham
August 13th, 2010
10:08 pm
@ Rondo: “If Teague can’t win the starting job MC is it any reason to keep Teague around?”
of course. he’s a young point guard on a rookie scale deal. they have to try to develop him. let’s at least wait and see how Teague does in camp and early season.
SteveW
August 13th, 2010
10:09 pm
The regular season is the only thing that will answer some of these questions – Like whose better, Bucks, Bull, Celtics, Hawks etc. This is all speculation right now.
And then an injury can change everything – ask Andrew Bogut and the Bucks.
We struggled mightily without JJ last year the few games he was injured.
I will be very surprised if Carlos Boozer goes an entire year without a pretty good injury.
Amare – maybe healthy all season – but in 2 or 3 years?
And if LeBron or Wade go down, or even Bosh in Miami – I say their toast.
That’s why they play the season.
Michael Cunningham
August 13th, 2010
10:09 pm
@ Junior: “MC, was there any discussion of how much PG will be played by Jamal Crawford?”
no. there was lots of talk about how the positions are interchangeable.
Michael Cunningham
August 13th, 2010
10:12 pm
@JeJe: “So is MC not even going to mention how Jamal might hold out of TC if not given an extension? Apparently Sekou knows this and he isn’t even with the Hawks anymore.”
should i mention it if it’s not true? i haven’t seen Sekou report it. the only place i saw it was a non-bylined item on Yahoo. seriously, when is the last time you saw an NBA guy hold out? you think Jamal is going to give up $10 million because he doesn’t get an extension?
Sautee
August 13th, 2010
10:13 pm
MC,
Thanks for paying attention.
Do you think the Bibby / Teague tandem is good enough to compete with the upper part of the conference?
Michael Cunningham
August 13th, 2010
10:14 pm
@ JSS: thanks . . . i’m not a fan of banning commenters, either, but it got way out of hand. it wasn’t because of the commenter’s opinions but because of nonsense.
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
10:15 pm
Sautee, you are correct. If Teague is not ready (by January) then the Hawks should not expect to go any further in the playoff than they have previously in the last two years. A trade for a center would be irrelevant. We might as well re-hire Woodson. He was good at coaching to hide weaknesses. But, as we all know, we need a coach who knows how to exploit other teams weaknesses with the Hawks’ strenghts.
I am really looking forward to seeing Teague develop. I get very little Hawks basketball on TV since I live in Tampa so I rarely, if ever, saw Teague play last season. From what I hear from everybody on this blog, they didn’t get to see much more of him that me because of Woodson’s rotation. But I did watch Teague closely in the Summer league. He is quick! I would love to see the Hawks’ athleticism with him at the controls. If Teague develops the Hawks will be great team (in terms of wins) and extremely fun to watch.
Michael Cunningham
August 13th, 2010
10:16 pm
@ The Truth: interesting re: Acie Law. thanks for background.
Sautee
August 13th, 2010
10:31 pm
Rev,
If you have access to DirecTV you can order NBA League Pass and get all NBA games. It’s pricey, but that’s the only way I know that you could see the Hawks other than the national tv games.
Grandad
August 13th, 2010
10:31 pm
Najeh:
on Ajinca;
He’s 7-1 w/o shoes, who put up respectable D-League # ’s.
He’s also a face-up, stretch [5].
I’m on a borrowed computer (# 1 son’s hse)
I’ve seen workout vid & when I get home I’ll provide link.
A youngster with promise.
Rev in Tampa
I’ve never hit a trade nor a draft pick either.
[unless it was one like Horford where everybody knew]
`til
this yr…..I nailed Tibor Pleiss…..(then we sold `im)
I research possible trades for fun.
One day I may hit one.
In the mean-time, I’m always lookin’ out for the Hawks.
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
10:37 pm
Sautee, I’ve got bigger obsacles to watching the Hawks than the price of NBA League Pass – My wife & three teenage daughters. My nine year old son has yet to develop my love for basketball.
Sautee
August 13th, 2010
10:44 pm
Rev,
THREE teenage daughters. OMG. Best of luck.
My daughter is 24 but I certainly haven’t forgotten.
Big Ray
August 13th, 2010
10:45 pm
Heh….
1) MC mentions that Teague had a higher assist percentage than Bibby, and you hear ZERO noise from some corners. All stats are stats, big or small. We’ll see what happens when the lights come on and this time the minutes are REAL.
2) Mike Bibby never made the all-star team. Ever. It can be argued that he was snubbed in ‘03-’04, in ‘04-’05, and in ‘05-’06. But he never made it. However, that can’t take away from what he used to be able to do, particularly in the playoffs. Sadly, the past is just that….the past.
3) Teague will earn something. We don’t know what it is yet. Being a starter is nice. Being in the game when the clutch moments come is even more crucial. As Marvin Williams what the difference is….
4) We still don’t really know Teague’s mentality. His physical attributes are great. Doesn’t mean much if his mentality isn’t right. We’ll see, but I have hopes.
5) In some ways, I like to latch onto the Chauncey Billups theory. But in some ways, that’s plain foolish. They didn’t know what Chauncey was when he came into the league (SG or PG). He ended up being a trade piece for teams who had other things in mind. He could have faded right on out of the league or ended up being a journeyman combo guard, ala Flip Murray. Instead, he became a star on the right team, with the right coach, who had the right vision. And then he stayed a star, because his potential had come to full fruition. Teague could be on the right team with the right coach (with the right vision) right now . Which would mean it wouldn’t be a path like Chauncey had to take (2-3 teams, 5-6 years).
Again, if his mentality is right, it can happen. Larry Drew seems like the right guy to bring out of him what we hope is there. I never believed that Woody was that type of guy, but that doesn’t make Woody a bad guy. It just makes him the wrong guy for the situation. Some guys are Chaunceys. They have to have the right situation and be given a chance to get settled in (Rajon Rondo). Some guys are not, they’re just plain stars (Chris Paul, Deron Williams).
Ya dig?
Big Ray
August 13th, 2010
10:46 pm
Grandad ,
Larry Brown once said Ajinca wasn’t even trying to be worth the bother of playing time. Think that was Larry being Larry, or was Ajinca not motivated?
northcyde
August 13th, 2010
10:56 pm
One more thing Rev:
The #1 goal of the ASG is to NOT build a championship caliber squad. Their #1 goal is to assemble an “elite level” squad, while staying under the Luxury Tax. That’s straight from management’s mouth.
There’s a difference in those 2 statements.
Statement #1 indicates that a team will make the kind of moves that will put them in contention to win a title, regardless of the situation. When you see the 2009 Champs LA Lakers trade away a guy who came up big time for them in the playoffs, and trade him for Ron Artest of all people, you know that organization is always looking to improve the squad.
Statement #2 indicates that they will try to construct the best team they possilbly can. But when they get close to the allocated budget, the priority is to stay under budget at all costs. Even trades need to be under budget. And that’s exactly what the Hawks philosophy is.
It’s not that the philosophy of the Hawks is bad. If you can build a legit title contender by doing it, the philosophy is great. But teams with this philosophy will more than likely balk at making the major move, if it puts them over budget.
Question for all of you who anticipate a trade between now and the Feb. deadline. If a trade DOESN’T happen, what then? Will you be mad at ownership for not trying to upgrade the squad at that point?
I don’t have many doubts that the Hawks won’t be pretty good next season. We’re the #4 seed at least right now.
I just don’t trust them to make a “championship caliber” move, if a situation arose in which they could make one.
jason
August 13th, 2010
11:18 pm
does anybody agree to signing jerry stackhouse?
SteveW
August 13th, 2010
11:21 pm
We are currently approx. 2.85m under the cap (luxury tax line to be more specific).
We have a 3.66 Trade Exception
We have our Full Midlevel Exception
We have our 2 year Vet Exception
We have 2 expiring contracts in Jamal (whom I hope we don’t trade) and Mo’.
We are certainly set up to deal – Sund is a vulture. Let’s see if he can get us something.
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
11:23 pm
northcyde, I’d never haerd that before, but I won’t doubt you since it is consistent with what I’ve observed so far. I’ve only paid attention to such things since I dicovered this blog in July.
However, I’m not going to let this become a negative filter for me between now and then. The Jamaal Crawford trade was a great trade that seemed to surprise everyone – and was very effective. Likewise, the Bibby trade really propelled the Hawks to a new level. So I have reasons to believe my hope is not misplaced. Plus, its the off-season – the season for hope.
SteveW
August 13th, 2010
11:26 pm
We are somewhere between the #3 seed and #6 seed in the East. We really won’t know until the regular season is played.
And if Dwight and Lebron or something were to go down, why not the #1 seed.
I still think the Heat are a glorified version of us last year. They are weak at PG and C – and in the playoffs, those weaknesses will be exposed.
I think the Celts, Magic, and Lakers have a chance to beat them in a 7 game series. Really anybody who has some good wing defenders, and are beasts inside with good Point play.
Their still gonna be fun to watch – Wade flying down the lane – dishing to Lebron for the jam – or dishing to Bosh for that matter.
SteveW
August 13th, 2010
11:27 pm
Horford is not weak at C by the way – it’s just that Howard’s a beast – I wanted to clarify that.
SteveW
August 13th, 2010
11:32 pm
Jason – it depends on numerous factors – are the Hawks going to carry 13 guys or more?
Is there a trade involving Mo’?
At this moment I think Sund is intent on signing another big – Elson, Skinner, or Boone maybe. The scouting reports I’ve read say Boone is the best of the bunch, but the NJ Nets blogs say stay away from him at all costs – can’t really tell why other than he’s been kind of a bust there.
But I have no problem with us signing Stackhouse – could probably give us a few useful minutes.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 13th, 2010
11:33 pm
More often than not, when teams trade for young guys from other teams who haven’t yet realized their potential, they have much less incentive to spend time developing them. Take Acie Law for example: the Hawks (theoretically) had incentive to develop him based on what they gave up for him (a lottery pick) but his subsequent teams, having not sacrificed nearly as much to acquire him, didn’t put in the time necessary to see him develop. Chauncey Billups happened to land in a situation in Minnesota where the guy in front of him got injured and he was able to showcase his skills at point guard, allowing him to land a deal with Detroit to become the full-time starter. Unfortunately, most players who switch teams multiple times early in their career are not so lucky.
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[...] Michael Cunningham’s most recent blog, Larry Drew states that Jeff Teague has to win the starting point guard spot from Mike Bibby in training camp. “He’s got to earn that,” L.D. said. “It’s not just [...]
SteveW
August 13th, 2010
11:49 pm
Doing some research on Ajinca – I wouldn’t mind him so much as a 14th guy on the roster – but I would prefer somebody a little more polished as the 13th guy. Skinner, Kwame, and Josh are all good defenders and rebounders/or shotblockers in their on way.
BTW, this blog the last couple of days has been on fire! Great observations made…I’m enjoying it!
Rev in Tampa
August 13th, 2010
11:57 pm
@northcyde – “Question for all of you who anticipate a trade between now and the Feb. deadline. If a trade DOESN’T happen, what then? Will you be mad at ownership for not trying to upgrade the squad at that point?”
Northcyde – I forgot to answer your question. I’ll probably be a bit frustrated, but it would be silly to let something I have no control over, especially a game, control me. I’ll also apologize for my 7:11pm post. But until February I’ll stand by it.
drmaryb ^•^
August 14th, 2010
3:05 am
MC
Thanks for taking out the Hot-Garbage!
Daddy’s Home – it’s All good.
drmaryb ^•^
August 14th, 2010
4:04 am
Woke up to watch the Falcons & Chiefs pre-season football on the
NFL Network. My Dirty-Birds look solid at 20 – 3 ending the 4th.
Very soild defense and lines play.
The Hawks got to do the same on stingy defense play and front-line strong plays.the QB (John Parker Wilson) playing very solid as well.
The Hawks got to do the same with JT0 as the back-up PG as well.
Quality depth at all positions is what I am witnessing in this football game.
The starters must be able to get that rest and hydrate their bodies, for the 4th and decisive quarters of gamesan when the opponents are tired as well.
Like a Doc huddle – Together & Team!
Paddy
August 14th, 2010
6:44 am
Rev in Tampa….ASG also told Hawk fans AFTER signing JJ that more free agents would be pursued. Didn’t happen for 2 reasons; ASG is out of $ and free agents have no interest in this Atl team under this ownership group. Rev I must disagree, signing JJ was the first step in the Hawks quick demise. No money and poor attendance is not a great formula to success and respect. But in the Hawks defense, they are not the only NBA team that has turned off their fans and are going broke.
Ken Strickland
August 14th, 2010
8:22 am
Man, everyone seems to be much more positive and analytical, and it’s so refreshing to read your comments. Then again, it could be just the lack of negativity. Virtually everyone has made solid and valid points.
There was one point brought up that I found to be odd. The discussion was on Teague being a SG coming out of college rather than a PG. Well, if you feel that’s an issue with Teague, why suggest Jordan Crawford compete for the PG position, since he was a SG in college as well?
Don’t put too much into LDrew’s comments about Teague having to earn the starting PG job from Bibby. If he had any concerns about Teague or Bibby’s ability to run his OFF, he’d certainly have more 2 PG’s on the active roster. I think it’s just his way of impressing upon his players, especially Bibby and Teague, that the old culture of entitlement for some and deprivation for others is a thing of the past.
I think Bibby, Teague, Evans and both Crawfords will be in Drew’s rotation and get consistent mins. I see JJ moving to SF when Drew sees where he can exploit match up situations at those positions. It appears LDrew intends to be very proactive in his approach to coaching this team, rather than nonreactive, which was Woodson’s approach.
Ken Strickland
August 14th, 2010
8:56 am
PADDY-You made the following comment, “ASG ALSO TOLD HAWK FANS AFTER SIGNING JJ, THAT MORE FREE AGENTS WOULD BE PURSUED. DIDN’T HAPPEN FOR 2 REASONS; ASG IS OUT OF $ AND FREE AGENTS HAVE NO INTEREST IN THIS ATL TEAM UNDER THIS OWNERSHIP GROUP.”
First, they did sign FA JPowell, as well as resigning FA JCollins. But regardless of what they told us, if you really believe what you said about their $ situation and the reasons FA’s don’t want to play here, why complain about them being unwilling or unable to sign FA’s you claim wouldn’t come here in the 1st place? Can anyone name a FA SG that was available, not named DWade or LJames, that was as good or better than JJ?
I’d much rather enter the season with limited cap space, a 4time All Star, and a chance to finish high in the playoff seedings, than with a lot of cap space, limited talent, and virtually no chance of competing for a playoff spot. It should be blatantly obvious from the off season approach of RSund and the ASG, they felt the majority of our team and player problems were the result of what MWoodson did or didn’t do, not a lack of oveall talent.
drmaryb ^•^
August 14th, 2010
9:03 am
Reading Between the Lines!
re: Ken Strickland
“Don’t put too much into LDrew’s comments about Teague having to earn the
starting PG job from Bibby. If he had any concerns about Teague or Bibby’s ability to run his OFF, he’d certainly have more 2 PG’s on the active roster. I think it’s just his way of impressing upon his players, especially Bibby and Teague, that the old culture of entitlement for some and deprivation for others is a thing of the past.”
That is the way I read it as well, apparently we have our own
Zen-Master! Coach Drew is working pyschology 201 on this team already.
I for see a new culture of competition and accountability at the
PG and last week, the Center positiions.
That, Ken, is – Rich!
terrell
August 14th, 2010
10:18 am
Does Marvin have to earn his starting spot too?
drmaryb ^•^
August 14th, 2010
10:21 am
terrell (don’t call me “te-relle”)
Now, that Sir, is the 6 Million dollar question.
Does Marvin have to earn hos spot too?
ROF – LOL
JeJe
August 14th, 2010
10:26 am
“should i mention it if it’s not true? i haven’t seen Sekou report it. the only place i saw it was a non-bylined item on Yahoo. seriously, when is the last time you saw an NBA guy hold out? you think Jamal is going to give up $10 million because he doesn’t get an extension?”
No, I don’t. Sorry i haven’t been on here much lately – busy. Jamal is my favorite player and I really don’t remember NBA players ever holding out except for maybe Glenn Rob when he was drafted #1 overall years back?
terrell
August 14th, 2010
10:28 am
Bibby starting again? I could beat out Bibby my dam. self. If he’s still the starter after a few games, it might be time for us to start looking for another pg.