Atlanta Hawks: Schedule stuff (UPDATE: 2010-11 schedule released)
The Hawks are set to release their schedule at 2 p.m. today. I will break it down here soon after. You will break it down below soon after that. Together we will formulate predictions, opinion and analysis that likely will mean little once the Hawks open the season.
Now doesn’t that sound fun? Hey, it’s August.
UPDATE
The schedule is out. Here are some highlights:
– The Hawks open the season with two road games and three in four nights. They play at Memphis Oct. 27, at Philadelphia Oct. 29 and at home vs. Washington on Oct. 30.
– Atlanta’s longest road trip of the season is broken up by All-Star weekend in Los Angeles. Games at Detroit Feb. 14 and at New York Feb. 16 are followed by All-Star weekend Feb. 18-20. Atlanta the continues the trip out West with games at the Lakers, Suns, Warriors, Blazers and Nuggets.
– The Hawks follow that trip with nine of their next 10 games at Philips Arena with just one back-to-back set. Atlanta plays 14 of its last 21 games at home.
– Atlanta plays a total of 23 back-to-back sets: 11 home/away, seven away/home and five away/away.
– Miami’s SuperFriends won’t make their first regular-season visit until March 18. The Heat visit again for Atlanta’s home finale on April 11. Miami will play an exhibition game against the Hawks at Philips on Oct. 21.
– The defending champion Lakers come to town on March 8. Orlando visits Dec. 20 and March 30. Defending East champ Boston visits on Nov. 22 and April 1.
– The Hawks play host to the Wizards on Thanksgiving Night (Nov. 25).
–The Hawks will play 14 games on national TV: seven on NBA TV, four on ESPN and three on TNT.
My three thoughts, worth $.02 each:
1. That closing schedule looks like a kind of trade-off between opponents and location, doesn’t it? It’s hard for the Hawks to complain about 14 of their last 21 at home, but they draw the Bulls three times, Miami twice (though that April 11 game could be meaningless for the standings), Boston, the Lakers, Oklahoma City, San Antonio and Orlando. On the plus side, the Hawks play consecutive road games just once during that span, and they are at Indiana and Washington.
2. There could be an opportunity for L.D. to get off to a good start in his first season as the head man. Memphis, Philadelphia, Washington, Cleveland, Detroit and Minnesota looks to be a manageable stretch to open the season. As always, that comes with the caveat that’s it’s folly to look at NBA schedules and predict wins and losses. And four of those games are on the road, where the Hawks were known to mess around and not handle their business last season.
2. Breaking up the February trip with All-Star weekend sounds good to me. I’ll take the long weekend in L.A. It should be good for the Hawks, too, since it takes what could have potentially been one long, 12-day West Coast trip and makes it a four-day trip East and an eight-day trip West with a short vacation in between. And the Hawks have all those home games to look forward to when they return to Atlanta.
MC
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Ken Strickland
August 10th, 2010
6:04 pm
NORTHCYDE-Why on earth would you go to the Magic City Classic? And do you have anything in common with either school?
ROD FROM CP-You’re employing one track minded thinking, just like your beloved Woody. WHY ARE YOU SO FIXATED ON THINKING WE AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO MATCH UP TO THEM? Yes, they’ll be bigger and taller, but why can’t you see the difficulty they’ll have trying to match up with our speed, quickness, mobility and athleticism? You’re so blinded by their size, height and fading star power names, you can’t seem to grasp that we present an even greater match up problem for them.
We ran the Celtics into the ground last yr, and adding Shaq and JOneal only makes them older, slower and less athletic. Can you imagine JOneal, Shaq and KG on the baseline using what little speed, quickness and athleticism they have left to fight over picks to keep up with their man?
How effective do you think they’d be in transition DEF with Horford, Smoove and Marvin blowing past them on a fast break? Let’s look at it another way. Here’s how we could catchup to them.
C-JCollins 7′ Shaq 7′1″
PF-AHorford 6′10″ KG 6′11″
SF-JSmith 6′9″ JOneal 6′11″
Even with this lineup, we’d still maintain an advantage over them in speed, quickness, mobility and athleticism. You’re getting all worked up over the sizzle rather than the steak.
Macaroni Tony
August 10th, 2010
6:13 pm
@Jason
I would never give this offense a D and I would never approve of that letter to the owners. So I think that trade would be giving away too much to a player like Granger that is injured often. Teague has growth potential so he would be out of the question. Now if you say Mo and MW then I would feel the same.
Rod from College Park
August 10th, 2010
6:16 pm
northcyde,
Are you really about to try to argue about T-Mac Jump shooting last year. The guy was coming off a major knee injury, and played hurt. The guy is a career 43%fg shooter, who was double and triple teamed most of his career. Sometimes you guys rely on the stat stuff to much. Tracy McGrady if he is not still injured, and can get on the floor, is a much better option than anything we have on our roster besides Joe, Josh, Al and Jamal. Give the guy at least a year to get his legs back. You saw what Amare did last year. Especially for a little over 1 mill. Even if you played him sparingly, and just got him ready for the playoffs it would be worth it. I am pretty positive that if not injured, he could give you more than 8 points in 30 minutes, which is what our starting small forward did in the playoffs. I also will continue to state that contrary to popular belief our offense has been our main problem in the playoffs over the last two years. No creativity, no movement, no players who can create their own shot except Joe and Jamal. McGrady would have been a great add for a so called motion offense.
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
6:21 pm
Mr. Big Stuff!
Ahem …. We need a BIG MAN!
Rod from College Park
August 10th, 2010
6:33 pm
Ken Strickland,
I actually agree with you on the matchup part, but I am so used to seeing us walk the ball up the floor, I am not sure what we are capable of. I’ve also tald you numerous times that I was not a Woody fan. Any coach who continuosly trots out and underperforming small forward, who probably would not start for many high schools in the Atlanta area, is not somebody who I like. I also don’t believe that we are such an athletic team. Josh is the only super athlete on the team. Mo is probably the only other guy that is real athletic. Teague might be, but I have not seen enough of him to say that. Horford is faster, and quicker than most centers, but his offensive moves are very mechanical and not fluid. I would not call Joe athletic. His game is very smooth, but not what I would call athletic. No way is Marvin athletic. Athletic people don’t trip, stumble, and hit the ground as much as he does. I know you are not putting Bibby in that category. Jamal could be put in that category, but only on the offensive side of the ball.
I have also seen enough basketball to know that that running and gunning stuff will not work in the playoffs. The only team that I could see pulling that style off in the playoffs and winning would be Miami.
darrell starks
August 10th, 2010
6:45 pm
MC posted 3:24 of course ASG feel like they are ok at smallforward they traded chill for a second round how smart is that.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
northcyde
August 10th, 2010
6:55 pm
@ Mr. Strickland . . . because I think the Magic City classic is one of the best college football weekends of the year, when you consider the game, and everything going on around the game.
The Magic City Classic = Plenty of great food . . usually a good game between Alabama St and Alabama A&M . . plenty of parties . . and plenty of FINE WOMEN. I don’t have ties to either school, but I’ve attended that event 4 of the last 6 years.
I do have ties to Tennessee St, so I always attend the Atlanta Football Classic between TSU and FAMU. But I always have a better time in Birmingham, even if my lady is with me.
But of course, you know the rules when you’re with your woman . . . “eyes on your own paper”. If you do sneak a look, don’t let her catch you doing it.
Grandad
August 10th, 2010
6:59 pm
Who’s to say [there, their, they're] is not a
trade fothcoming. Whereas a wing player may be
involved. Perhaps even a center. Wouldn’t that
be grand.
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
7:01 pm
Dang!
NorthCyde, can I go?
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
7:03 pm
Grand-Daddy
Now, don’t you go there – getting our hopes up.
We can’t take no more let-downs.
dstdeelite
August 10th, 2010
7:05 pm
As suspected, Heat basketball will be rammed down our throats this season with 29 nationally televised games. Totally expected. The new darlings of the NBA, OKC, has one more televised game than the Hawks. Oh well, I guess we should be happy about the few we do have. Just remember where we were a few short years ago.
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
7:12 pm
dstdeelite
Dang maane! … 29 games on National TV?
It’s all about the Benjamins baby. The only difference between Josh and LeBron
is:
fouls called
FT’s made
decent jumper (mid-range)
vava74
August 10th, 2010
7:16 pm
Rod,
You are the one who is to hung up on past stats.
Apart from popularity contests, T-Mac won nothing and achieved nothing during his whole career. He lacks passion and knowledge of the game and now that his legs have given up on him he lost his only asset: entertainment factor.
I am not saying that Marvin is all that great, he isn’t, but T-Mac would bring zero to the Hawks and not even as a reserve he would be useful. He was never a team first player and you cannot have more than one instant-offense-bench-player in a team. That seat is already taken by Jamal.
We need a SF which brings D and physicality not a limping has been which I foresee will be either cut or traded by Christmas time on a 25 win team.
Our best option would be to simply work with the assets we have: overcrowded at the SG slot? Just slide JJ to the SF starting slot and get Mo on the starting SG slot and we would have two solid perimeter defenders at both positions. Mo has proven that when given minutes at the SG slot he can deliver solid numbers.
Marvin could come off the bench to spell JJ and Josh on both the SF and PF slots and maybe, just maybe, we would be able to extract more out of his minutes.
Jamal would be the first guy off the bench to spell Mo and occasionally Teague/Bibby.
Jordan Crawford would be our insurance in the even that any of the 4 SG/SF guys (JJ, Mo, Jamal, Marvin) went down allowing us to re-shuffle.
Grandad
August 10th, 2010
7:20 pm
SteveW
from last blog.
I do not consider ‘ass’ an expletive.
I did not call you one, [ass]
I just stated a fact.
-[semantics]-
Even in your last post, you resort to these methods:
* false statements made with deliberate intent to deceive.
* something intended or serving to convey a false impression.
* inaccurate statements.
darrell starks
August 10th, 2010
7:21 pm
VAVA 74 YOU CAN’T BE REAL COMPARING TMAC 2 THE DUCK WOW!!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
August 10th, 2010
7:27 pm
TMAC was on the verge of becoming top 50 greatest players of all time, before he became injury prone with his knees, BUT WITH 1LEG I WOULD TAKE TMAC OVER THE DUCK.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
JustAThought
August 10th, 2010
7:28 pm
Hey Hawk-In-The Ham…………..for a smart ass………..you sure are dumb! It’s spelled “apologize”. Let me see you get that right.
Ken Strickland…………..thanks for reminding us how the hawks “ran the Celts into the ground” last year……….but I noticed that you did’nt mentioned that they played for the championship………what’s up with that?
JustAThought
August 10th, 2010
7:33 pm
Don’t just tell half the story……tell the whole story.
vava74
August 10th, 2010
7:35 pm
darrell,
breathe deep. then read the post.
I never compared T-Mac with Marvin.
I did point out – and continue to do so – that behind all those pretty stats, T-Mac has been nothing more than a loser.
He never got pass the first round of the playoffs, even when he was 100% healthy and in some occasions with at least decent teams around him.
His stats were a byproduct of his complete dominance of the ball and his teams’ offense with very simple and clearcut results: ISO-T-Mac = zero playoff series wins.
Now? He is nothing but a washed up player looking to make amends a bit too late. Without his chops, his game is nothing.
JustAThought
August 10th, 2010
7:35 pm
Grandad………….A trade is coming…………..and I’m sure that the hawks won’t be involved!
Jae Evolution
August 10th, 2010
7:36 pm
Why don’t the Hawks try to sign Rasheed Wallace for the vet minimum, the Celtics just waived him today, and he is a very good defensive center with an underated offensive game. Any thoughts?
darrell starks
August 10th, 2010
7:39 pm
VAVA 74 in what way is TMAC a loser ?
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
The Truth
August 10th, 2010
7:39 pm
As much as I have been one of the soloists singing the current song about the inactions of the Hawks Management Group, the Hawks would not have faired any better then Chicago Boston or Cleveland regarding the T-Max acquisition. Why, because like Shaq, the ego driven T-max demanded more money and/or role then those teams were willing to give him based on his past injury. These teams that pursued T-Mac were looking to low-ball him and make him a specialist off the bench instead of the primary focal offense as T-Max desired to re-live his prior role in Houston. So after the other teams passed, the savvy Joe Dumars acquired a deflated ego T-Max by default for 1-year vet min. Detroit was “luckily” in the right place at the right time. However, this does create a perfect win-win situation for both parties. T-Max will energize the Detroit fan base and sell tickets while auditioning for his next contract. Everyone should know that our GM Sund was likely asleep at the wheel (on these events) while Dumars was camped out waiting to strike. However, even if Sund had declared an interest in T-Mac, he likely would have failed for similar reasons as he did with Shaq.
While others have criticized Woody in the past for being so stubborn and failing to see the obvious, the question now is, what about Sund? Granted he’s not writing the checks and has been given an apparent tight budget, but his job is to persuade by giving his expert opinion to the ASG and making recommendations. It happen with JJ as Sund persuaded the ASG to give him Max dollar. Clearly he is not seeing what many on these blogs and other media outlets have expressed about improving the supporting cast. This is based on his public statements of staying the course with the core and his inactions. Even within his tight budget, his talent acquisitions have been questionable (other then Crawford). Some would even argue that he got lucky that trade as Nelly was highly motivated to dump Crawford for anything.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 10th, 2010
7:43 pm
vava, “T-Mac never won anything and put up stats as a ball hog” doesn’t mean that T-Mac is useless even as a bench player. Just like with Shaq, the Hawks wouldn’t have needed T-Mac to come here and play like he did in his prime. The fact is that the Hawks really only have one guy on the roster whose best position is small forward, and that’s Marvin. Worst case scenario, T-Mac doesn’t play any better than he did last year, which would still make him a decent bench option for the veteran’s minimum considering that . Let’s not forget this team is currently paying the veteran’s minimum to two centers who have shot a worse percentage for their career than T-Mac did as a shooting guard/small forward. I’m not pretending like he would have been an ideal fit for this team or would have put them over the top, but he would have provided much better quality depth than Collins or Powell for the same price, and it’s not like there is anyone better than him left in free agency anyway.
darrell starks
August 10th, 2010
7:48 pm
IF TMAC was on the hawks in his younger days i would say the hawks would have a shot at the title, because he was a superstar in his prime.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
Rod from College Park
August 10th, 2010
7:53 pm
Vava,
“Apart from popularity contests, T-Mac won nothing and achieved nothing during his whole career. He lacks passion and knowledge of the game and now that his legs have given up on him he lost his only asset: entertainment factor.
I am not saying that Marvin is all that great, he isn’t, but T-Mac would bring zero to the Hawks and not even as a reserve he would be useful. He was never a team first player and you cannot have more than one instant-offense-bench-player in a team. That seat is already taken by Jamal.”
You were joking right? You really can’t be serious. Guess what Vava, no one on our team has ever won anything, except Collins and Powell. We sure would not be able to complete without them would we? Jamal never won anything, but he was one of the best players on the team last year. T-Mac achieved nothing in his whole career huh? I guess being a annual all star in the NBA accounts for nothing. I guess being considered one of the best basketball players in the world means nothing. T-Mac lacks passion? Kind of like Joe huh. Lacks a knowledge of the game? I guess it is real easy to go out and be a dominate player in the best basketball league in the world huh. So a guy who is one of the best scorers in the NBA over the last 10 years, who can get you about 5 assists a game, can create his own shot, finish at the rim, outplay our starting 3 with one leg, play the 3, which is the position we have zero depth at besides our starting 2 guard, and handle the ball better than almost everyone on our team (in a motion offense at that), and can be had for a little over a million dollars, can bring zero to our team? Why am I even responding to you?
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
7:59 pm
darrell starks
In what way is T-Mac a Winner?
vava74
August 10th, 2010
8:00 pm
Najeh,
T-Mac would bring ZERO D.
Contrary to what people say, our problem was not lack of point makers, was lack of defensive consistence and lack of an organized offense (please remember that T-Mac has been a strictly ISO player).
With Jamal on board, we have exhausted our allowance for bench players who don’t bring anything defensively.
Since T-Mac would not be able to bring enough offense to off-set his lack of D, his addiction to the roster would accomplish very little to our game.
My post brings a much better solution: use the assets we already have differently.
As a SF, JJ would be a top 5/7 SF and Mo would be – almost certainly – a solid starting SG which would keep us solid defensively to start games.
Marvin should be able to contribute as a bench player being more featured on offense and being instructed to work closer to the rim against inferior opposition (he gets to the line often and has a good touch around the rim).
Hence, he could spell both JJ and Josh which would make both SF and PF positions well equipped with personnel both offensively and defensively.
The SG slot would be well covered between Mo, Jamal and Jordan.
The PG slot would be well covered between Teague, Bibby and Jamal if Teague proves capable to contribute 20/25 minutes without compromising on D.
Between Al, Zaza, Powell and Collins we have enough bodies and fouls to cover the C slot.
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
8:08 pm
darrell starks
Even thought-Mac hasn’t won anything? He still could have helped the Hawks though. We still need more talent on our team and he does bring that.
We just can’t keep putting everybody down, where do the Hawks Basketball Arrogance come from? I just don’t get why no one is good enough for this org?
Go Figure!
Najeh Davenpoop
August 10th, 2010
8:10 pm
“T-Mac would bring ZERO D.
Contrary to what people say, our problem was not lack of point makers, was lack of defensive consistence and lack of an organized offense (please remember that T-Mac has been a strictly ISO player).”
I’m not arguing with any of this. All I’m saying is that T-Mac contributes something, and for the veteran’s minimum it’s not like his presence is going to hurt this team. Whether or not he was a winner or a ball hog when he was in Orlando is irrelevant to whether he can help a team out now. Whether or not a guy can elevate his team to wins doesn’t really matter much when you’re talking about role players, since they are not in a position to singlehandedly win or lose games anyway.
And anyway, if the Hawks can pay the veterans’ minimum to one center who averages more fouls than rebounds and another undersized center who shoots under 45%, they can pay T-Mac the veterans’ minimum too. No way T-Mac would have been less effective than Collins and Powell.
vava74
August 10th, 2010
8:11 pm
Rod,
Your zeal in bashing Marvin makes you completely blind.
Re-read my post: where do I defend Marvin over T-Mac? My post states that we have WAY BETTER solutions WITHIN our roster rather than signing T-Mac.
All-start nominations and scoring titles associated with ZERO playoff series wins = LOSER.
He NEVER GOT PAST THE FIRST ROUND!!!
T-Mac has been a perennial ISO player amassing stats whilst others amassed wins. BBall is a collective game, however, you seem to be fixated in stats, nominations, individual displays of athleticism and body balance.
FYI, I consider that Jamal’s addition to our roster last year had a negative effect. I love the guy. He seems an extremely nice kid and he is spectacular to watch but Woody messed up and used him too much and in ways that caused a lot of harm to us.
It would take too long to explain my point of view – which obviously could be wrong – however, since I know that you cannot get past the “he is not agreeing with me” barrier that you seem to have and that prevents you from even analyzing what other people write, I will not dwell on that subject.
Let’s speak again later in the year and see how many wins T-Mac will be bringing to the Pistons. Maybe he will make me eat my words, however, I very much doubt it.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 10th, 2010
8:17 pm
Antoine Walker put up big numbers on a crappy team by hogging the ball for years before he went to Miami and won a ring as a role player. It’s been done before and it will be done again.
O'Brien
August 10th, 2010
8:24 pm
vava,
His stats were a byproduct of his complete dominance of the ball and his teams’ offense with very simple and clearcut results: .
Some people say the same thing about JJ and Woody’s ISO offense where he dominates the ball all the time.
I suggested signing TMac weeks ago, for 2 reasons.
1) Low risk, high reward. If he can get back to 75% of what he was, he would be great off the bench. If he excels, we can explore trade options for jamal or TMac in different packages at the deadline.
If he becomes a problem, for the vet minimum we can always cut him (Houston told him to stay away despite his huge contract). Keep in mind that we gave RandMo a 2 year guaranteed deal. For what? We bring cheesebureger Collins back, for what? Hoping he will keep the weight off and contribute?
2) Marketability. TMac was almost voted a starter to the ASG. Fans love the guy even though he sucked last year (coming back from injury).
Fans would come out to watch TMac, plus he still has a lot of asian fans from his days with Yao.
I’m with Najeh.
Rod from College Park
August 10th, 2010
8:31 pm
Vava,
“FYI, I consider that Jamal’s addition to our roster last year had a negative effect. I love the guy. He seems an extremely nice kid and he is spectacular to watch but Woody messed up and used him too much and in ways that caused a lot of harm to us.”
So, we win more games and get to the same spot as the year before, but Jamal addition was negative? OK
He NEVER GOT PAST THE FIRST ROUND!!!
So I guess he was out there by himself huh? No coach, or other players with him? He was solely responsible? OK.
“It would take too long to explain my point of view – which obviously could be wrong – however, since I know that you cannot get past the “he is not agreeing with me” barrier that you seem to have and that prevents you from even analyzing what other people write, I will not dwell on that subject.”
For the first time in a long time, a can positively say that your point of view on this is 100% wrong. Your statement is that he would bring zero to this team even as a reserve. I disagree. Please name me one option off of our bench other than Jamal who is a better basketball player than T-Mac.
“Let’s speak again later in the year and see how many wins T-Mac will be bringing to the Pistons. Maybe he will make me eat my words, however, I very much doubt it.”
What does that have to do with him playing for the vet minimum for the Hawks? Even with your argument, you still would have Marvin coming off the bench at the 3 so why would they not be compared.
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
8:31 pm
Lorenzen Wright
I read a Memphis press release that Lorenzen’s Ex-Wife (Sherra) is a person of interest as I initially thought. “Follow the Money”. Speaking of money,
many of her neighbors claimed that Sherre allegedly had a habit of walking through the neighborhood yelling into her cell phone that she needed some money. Reportedly, she exhibited this behavior all too often.
The neighbors said this was a public nuisance to those who heard her constantly walking and screaming about how she needed this money.
My question is, with all those kids she had, why didn’t she go get a darned JOB!
I wonder if she was yelling this to Lorenzen, since he was obviously having financial problems. I guess we now know why he didn’t have any left.
I know he had 6 children to support along with the wife, himself , a Mother and only Lord knows how many other beggars.
Seems like athleþes who make it big are always burdened with taking care of a
dozen lazy family members.
No wonder Gerald Wilkins changed his phone number and told his Parents and ‘Nem to get a damned life. Dominque was the one who went broke trying to feed the hungry! Nique had a $3,000 unpaid grocery bill at the Krogers on Ponce de Leon here in Atlanta, from his Sister going in there and putting steaks and lobsters on his tab. The complaint was filed in a Fulton County Court back in the late 80’s (1989 I believe), and of course it was in the newspapers.
Gerald who played for the Knicks, commented that Nique would never learn to just say NO! Get a JOB people …
Go Figure!
RIP – Lorenzen.
(Its a damned shame to be shot 12 plus times – that was personal)
northcyde
August 10th, 2010
8:36 pm
Since nobody did it, I’ll re-post this myself . . and add T-Mac to it:
From the Pape Sy blog:
9 – 10 eFG% on jumpshots . . for the main SF on each team, including what Josh Smith shoots on jumpers last year: ( from 82games.com )
. . . I’ll even post the career high eFG% numbers of both Marvin and Smoove, and add them into this list.
Morrow – 57.5% . . ( 9.9 ppg ) . . arguably the best catch and shoot guy in the league
M. Miller – 56.6% . . ( 6.4 ppg ) . . the reason why Miami picked him up
Q. Richardson – 54.5% . . ( 6.4 ppg )
Gallaniri – 50.5% . . ( 9.5 ppg )
Peja – 49.5% . . ( 9.4 ppg)
Gomes – 48.9% . . ( 7.7 ppg )
Pierce – 48.8% . . ( 8 ppg )
M. Webster – 48.4% . . ( 5.7ppg )
Delfino – 48.4% . . ( 7.3 ppg )
Turkoglu – 47.7% . . ( 6.6 ppg )
Barnes – 47% . . ( 3.5 ppg )
Artest – 46.9% . . ( 5.9 ppg )
R. Butler – 46.6% . . ( 8.6 ppg )
Granger – 46.5% . . ( 12.8 ppg )
Hill – 46.4% . . ( 5.5 ppg)
Durant – 45.2% . . ( 13.9 ppg )
M. Williams – 44.9% . . ( 6.1 ppg ) . . ( Career high: 2008 – 09 season )
Prince – 44.9% . . ( 7.1 ppg )
Gay – 44.6% . . ( 9.8 ppg )
Casspi – 44.6% . . ( 5.4 ppg )
Lebron – 43.6% . . ( 11.3 ppg )
Deng – 42.4% . . ( 8.5 ppg )
Anthony – 41% . . ( 11.3 ppg )
Iguodala – 41% . . ( 8 ppg )
Ariza – 41% . . ( 7.6 ppg )
G. Wallace – 40.7% . . ( 4.2 ppg )
R. Jefferson – 40.6% . . ( 5.1 ppg )
2010 M. Williams – 39% . . ( 3.9 ppg ) . . he CANNOT shoot this low at SF
Kirilenko – 38.8% . . ( 3.5 ppg )
Douglas-Roberts – 37.9% . . ( 3.6 ppg )
Marion – 37.8% . . ( 3.3 ppg )
McGrady – 37.1% . . ( 5 ppg ) . . my bad, T-Mac would’ve been DEAD LAST amongst this group last year, not 2nd to last.
Smoove – 36.3% . . ( 4.3 ppg ) . . ( Career high: 2005 – 06 season )
2010 Smoove – 28.5% . . ( 2.5 ppg )
*****************
Rod . . I mean, I could add in the fact that these were also T-Mac’s Defensive numbers per 48 minutes:
Opp eFG%: 57.7% ( horrible )
Opp PER: 19.9 ( horrible )
Opp ppg: 22.1 ( horrible )
Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t have thrown a fit if the Hawks brought T-Mac in. He still does one thing decent, and that’s be a playmaker. Let T-mac be the “point forward” on the 2nd team, with JC1 and Bibby being the shooters. Maybe that could be the role for him.
But he wouldn’t replace Marvin.
northcyde
August 10th, 2010
8:38 pm
@ drmaryb . . . yes, you can go. But EVERBODY tries to be sexy at that event. To the college girls to the 75 year old alumni ladies. So you gotta come correct at the Classic. Don’t let some 65 year old “out sexy” you.
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
8:52 pm
NorthCyde
I’m bringing Sexy – back! At 40 sumthing’ I still look 27 young!
What … What. …what?
I will turn’ that Motha’ (watch yo’ mouth) Out! -smiles-
Cyde … I might have to hop in my Black Carrera and roll up on some people!
Rod from College Park
August 10th, 2010
8:56 pm
Northcyde,
Again I know you really wanted to do it, but posting a guys stats not even a year removed from microfracture surgery (I think), and trying use those stats to say that’s who he is, when it was only based on around 20 games might well be one of the worst stats you have ever posted on this blog. I respect you research skills, but you gets no love from me with that. (No Homo).
vava74
August 10th, 2010
8:56 pm
Rod,
“So, we win more games and get to the same spot as the year before, but Jamal addition was negative? OK”
Injuries tell the story here. We won more games because we were virtually injury free for the whole year.
“So I guess he was out there by himself huh? No coach, or other players with him? He was solely responsible? OK.”
No, but for a guy averaging the stats that he averaged, one should expect that with the help he had he should have been able to win at least one series.
And just keep it short:
I don’t consider T-Mac a good basketball player. A good individual performer? Yes. A player, as in a member of a team sport? NO.
As a bench player, I prefer Marvin due to his D and at this point in time I don’t even think that T-Mac is in position to really contribute offensively that much. I already explained that his current offense does not offset his lack of D.
Mo is, IMO, a better “team player” and more useful roster member (and at the SG slot its a no contest) than T-Mac.
Less talented? No doubt, however, right now, he is able to contribute more.
SteveW
August 10th, 2010
9:13 pm
Grandad – And the sky is lead. Care to give specifics instead of attacks?
On other subjects – wonder who that 13th player – the big will be? Any thoughts?
I’m warming up to a few of the names….Boone, Skinner, Thomas, maybe Elson, maybe a D-Leaguer like Aminu, Bonsu or Siler – let’s just start the season!
KevinM
August 10th, 2010
9:28 pm
TMac isn’t making any team better. He is there to try and bring interest to the team, and much less left than Shaq has. TMac has played defense as well as Vince Carter, and the trend will continue. Him making the vet min doesn’t motivate him enough to go all out.
Let’s look forward; the Hawks have a chance to get this team to play as a unit early on. They should be able to do the following:
2-1 in October
10-5 in November (12-6) – we aren’t winning both games in B2B.
9-8 in December (21-14)
9-5 in January (30-19)
5-7 in February (35-26)
9-5 in March (44-31)
4-3 in April (48-34)
Fair observation for a new coach, a new PG, and a core who needs to still learn to play as a team.
Not sure they can beat Orlando or Miami even one time. I can see them splitting with Boston, Chicagp and Milwaukee. That Feb west coast trip is a tough one. The all-star break and then we play the Lakers immediately afterwards….our guys should get out there 3-4 days early and get acclimated.
drmaryb (*_*)
August 10th, 2010
9:44 pm
NBA TV
Reggie Miller & D-Scott doing NBA Game Time tonight:
You guys really need to watch that. Reggie just broke down the
teams to beat out West and East.
The Hawks were not even a part of that discussion.
Of course, Reggie points out the Lakers as the team to beat – period!
Why? Because of experience and the upgrades of: Steve Blake and Matt Barnes.
He said you need defensive wings to stop LeBron and Wade.
The main reason he gave was the Huge Size of the front court!
Bynum, Gasol and Odom! You have to deal with their SIZE, Kobe – the best closer of our time and Dr. Phil.
OKC Thunder went and got real BIG up front after the 6 game first round battle with the Lakers – looks good to Reggie. He talked about Houston and PorÞland if the Centers are healthy – will be a huge problem.
The East coast is now balanced with power when you look at the
South Beach Crew and the Bulls are now dangerous with what the did:
Korver, Boozer, Noah and Rose with Thibbs!
Basically he said, No Size equals No Chance! Hawks never mentioned in that conversation. Boston will struggle until Perkins come back possibly in March!
Here’s My Point! We Shoulda’ paid Shaq the MLE, then we become part of the conversation in the circle of Champions! As we are? We scare no one,
not even a DEER in the headlights! Fear the Hawk? Not.
rusty
August 10th, 2010
9:54 pm
vava 74
man i am losing my faith in you . how could you even begin to consider mo to play first string, be real,moving jj to sf & bringing jamal c. to play sg would make a hell of a lot more sense. i dont think mo would play first team for anyone in the nba never the less for a contender. mw will never be able to carry tmacs boots in his prime he was way better than jj.
bigdave
August 10th, 2010
10:31 pm
O’brien..
how is that Esco trade looking now..
Gonzalez… 7 errors in 24 games..
Ken Strickland
August 10th, 2010
10:39 pm
NORTHCYDE-I graduated from Alabama A & M, but I attended Tenn State in 1966. SMALL WORLD ISN’T IT?
SteveW
August 10th, 2010
10:49 pm
Drmaryb – I here ya’!
On T-Mac and Shaq – the Hawks could have had them if they wanted them.
Mo’ Evans and a 2nd pick to the Cavs for Shaq in S/T – Shaq gets the TPE – 2 yr. 4.3m
Sign T-Mac for the vet minimum to replace Mo’
Shaq gets what he wanted
Cavs get what they wanted – anything of value for Shaq – kinda like us with Chilz’
We save money (about $400,000.00)
And T-Mac comes off the bench behind Marv
We obviously didn’t want T-Mac or Shaq – if we did, it would have been a done deal.
Atlanta brass thinks Mo’ is a better all round than T’Mac (Locker room, injury risk, attitude risk, Defense etc.) evidently – maybe there are extenuating circumstances we don’t know about…
SteveW
August 10th, 2010
10:55 pm
Been listening to the “experts” on the Heat
Many think they will win up to 75 games, and challenge the 33 consecutive all time win streak.
Many think the Celts have the best chance to stop them because:
- Allen, Pierce, and Garnett at least compete with Wade, LeBron, and Bosh – not as good, older, but in their league so to speak.
- The Heat have no answer for Rondo at PG, or Shaq, Jermaine, Kendrick, and Big Baby down low – none.
The Lakers are seen as the other team that can take them:
Kobe can match up a little with DWade
Artest and Barnes can attack Lebron
And Bosh will be eaten alive by Gasol, Odom, and Bynum
The Heat’s weakness at PG and C will be exposed in the playoffs like another teams’ was last year – the Hawks.
SteveW
August 10th, 2010
11:01 pm
And I would not count the Magic out of contention with the Heat in the playoff’s either.
Jameer is a better PG than anything the Heat can throw out there
Dwight and Gortat can eat the Heat up inside – and take away the lane from DWade and LeBron
And the Heat’s inside out game can wear down LeBron and Wade, making them work so hard on D, it affects their Offensive game.
I do think the Magic will miss not being able to throw Barnes and Petraus at LeBron.
SteveW
August 10th, 2010
11:03 pm
Drmaryb – that should be “I hear ya’!”