Atlanta Hawks: No Shaq . . . now what?
With Shaq off to Boston here’s a quick epilogue as it relates to the Hawks:
I’ve been told that Atlanta wouldn’t budge on giving Shaq a starting nod over Al, who is after all still only 24-years old and an All-Star. Shaq believes he will get the starting nod over Jermaine O’Neal in Boston as Kendrick Perkins rehabs from his knee injury.
Atlanta also wasn’t willing to pay Shaq more than the minimum and that was a sticking point for him. He didn’t want to sign for the minimum when the Hawks had their bi-annual and mid-level exceptions available because of the perception that would create–as in the Hawks could have paid him more but didn’t. That’s not the case with Boston, which had neither of those exceptions and so could only give him the minimum.
The big guy still has his pride.
The Hawks thought Shaq could help them and would be a good risk at the minimum salary despite his history of negatively effecting locker rooms and tending not to respect coaches who aren’t Phil Jackson or Pat Riley. It could have been a potential headache for L.D., who already has a lot to deal with in his first gig as a head coach.
So that’s that. . . .
The Hawks still are in the market for a center (I’ve still heard nothing to indicate they are seeking a wing) and they have veterans Francisco Elson, Brian Skinner and Josh Boone on their radar. Not so much Kwame Brown, who is thought to still be seeking a deal for more than the vet minimum.
Beyond those options, I also could see the Hawks waiting to see if any centers shake free as teams buy out vets when training camps open. They also might consider bringing some young center prospects to camp and give them a month to earn the 13th roster spot. There is some interest in Garrett Siler but he’s got a lot to prove after a bad showing at Summer League.
There’s still about two months until camp opens so there’s still time for moves to be made. But that 13th roster spot will remain open for now.
– Hawks assistant GM Dave Pendergraft has emerged as an early candidate to become Denver’s top basketball executive. Pendergraft also is one of several candidates for Phoenix’s GM job.
The Nuggets let go of VP of basketball ops Mark Warkentein earlier this week.
MC
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SteveW
August 8th, 2010
4:32 pm
Grandad – I also said, why would you want to take the person who holds the record for Blocked shots – 1,000+ at the youngest age, away from the basket – and that’s exactly what you would do making Josh a 3 – don’t quite get what you mean by “jump shot” only. There is a defensive end of the floor you have to think about.
Woody made him a 4 because he was a horrific jump shooter – and if In the motion offense position doesn’t matter – I was a small college basketball coach BTW – why not make Josh the Center or the Point?
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
4:36 pm
@ Northcyde: IMO it’s not that difficult to stay under the tax while improving. To fill out that roster you could get two 2nd rd picks, considering you can pay 2nd rd picks what you wish, pay 550,000 to each, keep your 1st rd pick, about $1.2 million. That’s 3 players for $2.3 million. Now add 3 players at minimum, Josh Powell makes $1.1 million this year. 1.1 x3. 6 players for $5.6 million or less.
As for does it make us better. I think so. We get better at PG with Mo Williams worse case scenario he is a younger, better version of Bibby. At C Biedrins has average a double-double in 30 minutes in his last two full season. So, we get better at Center also. You could also swap Dunleavy for Prince if they makes this look better. I think we get better and stay under
Michael Cunningham
August 8th, 2010
4:39 pm
@ToeKnee: “MC, I really like the addition of Powell to our bench, and I think it will be better utilized under Drew, where he will reward players for performance and not just go to his starters no matter what, like Woodson. With Teague in the starting line up now and Drew running the show, how much of an impact do you think Drew can make on this team? Do you think there will be noticeable differences with our team as Drew takes over, or do you expect the same results?”
results as in victories? i’m not sure. but if L.D. follows through with implementing the things he’s talked about offensively as far as player/ball movement and pace, then i think the style will be very different. he’s also talking about a larger rotation and that obviously would be a change. we will have to wait and see on all of that plus the accountability, leadership, defensive toughness etc.
SteveW
August 8th, 2010
4:40 pm
Ken Strickland – It is not certain fans making an issue of Al being undersized – it is Al making an issue of him being a natural PF. Of course if Al says it – many fans will believe it. Don’t blame the fans – blame Al.
Big Ray
August 8th, 2010
4:41 pm
SteveW ,
Read back on your post addressing me…ya lost me on the Josh Smith/Karl Malone stuff. I don’t remember discussing that.
wuffe
August 8th, 2010
4:43 pm
Northcyde you need to flip the first part of your trade as Cleveland made it clear they actually Want Marvin Williams. Have Golden State get Zsa Zsa (replace Beindris) and Mike Bibby (expiring contract), Cleveland gets Marvin Williams and Moe Evans
we trade Crawford straight up… (too much a 2nd round) to Indiana
We get Beindris and Dunlaevy ….hmmmm not sure why your giving up on Crawford in a guard heavy offense, but maybe your looking to replace the SF position. I could live with this trade, but I would be happier to not get Dunlaevy and let Crawford stay. Dunlaevy is coming off of major surgery , is he really healed?
SteveW
August 8th, 2010
4:44 pm
MC – thanks for sharing that LD may have a larger rotation – good idea in my opinion!
Rev in Tampa
August 8th, 2010
4:47 pm
Theological confusion, I need to add a bit of theological precision to your comment because there are many bible verses that address that level of hypocrisy. For instance, “But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe (Romans 3:21-22).
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
4:47 pm
wuffle: that was not northcyde’s trade but mines
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
4:53 pm
@wuffle: furthermore, you guys need to understand everytime you make a move or trade someone does not mean you are giving up on him. Crawford will be too expensive to bring back, he will push you to the luxury threshold. Next, we will need a SF that has starting ability to back Josh up considering I would only want Josh playing about 20 minutes at SF.
This would be the minutes in theory.
PG Mo Williams 30 minutes/ Teague 18 minutes
SG Joe Johnson 28 minutes/ Crawford 12 minutes/ Teague 8 minutes
SF Smoove 20 minutes/ Joe 10 minutes/ Dunleavy 18 minutes
PF Al 30 minutes/ Smoove 18 minutes
C Biedrins 30 minutes/ Al 8 minutes/Boone 10 minutes
Powell, Collins, and Carney see spot duty
Big Ray
August 8th, 2010
4:56 pm
SteveW ,
I don’t see where Al Horford is making an issue of playing the 4 spot. I really don’t. I think it’s actually overblown (but it makes for great fodder for discussion). He has been asked the question a number of times, but he’s also been quoted as saying that he knows he will be playing center, and he’s fine with it.
The issue is coming from the fans. Since when has “I feel I’m a natural PF” turned into “I don’t want to play center anymore. I don’t like it, and we need someone to replace me in the lineup as the starting center.” ? I keep checking around the net, and I’m not finding any place where Al says anything but that he and Josh “need help.” That’s it.
Now if he starts acting like Amare Stoudamire or Chris Bosh (attitude wise), then there is reason for concern. Until then, why would a guy who made the all-star team at one position, insist on moving to another? I have yet to see the evidence suggesting that there is a real live issue…..
Big Ray
August 8th, 2010
5:04 pm
I also agree that having a larger rotation is a good thing. Now, I don’t agree with having one just for the sake of having one. Guys have to work hard and prove that they deserve their minutes, no doubt.
At the same time, if your rotation is larger, I believe it allows for more flexibility and stability when/if injuries occur. Otherwise, you keep playing the same 7 (sometimes
guys, and then you have a key injury (or worse, two or more)…now as a coach, you’re stuck looking at your bench and trying to figure out which combination of a hot mess you want. What kind of ish is that?
There is no substitute for actual game time play. I don’t care if you attend every practice and bust your hump. If you don’t get some regular burn of some sort, you CANNOT affect the game as well. You CANNOT get into a rhythm as well. I’m not saying you can’t perform . But you certainly can’t do it as well . Look at Joe Smith from last season, prime example. Now guys like Randolph Morris and Mario West are another story…
Big Ray
August 8th, 2010
5:05 pm
truthspitter ,
“furthermore, you guys need to understand everytime you make a move or trade someone does not mean you are giving up on him.”
Good point. I think people get the wrong impression sometimes.
wuffe
August 8th, 2010
5:05 pm
Well Truthspliter is there any way you can get that trade to the Hawks management …. I am a difficult sell. There is logic all the way thru it.
atlsouthside
August 8th, 2010
5:06 pm
I think we should sign T-Mac (if he’s still a FA) and play him at SF… Josh at PF, release Marvin Williams…and forget about a Center…just play big and athletic 1-4. Horford is a threat from outside, so big Centers will have to defend him outside the paint, and foul b/c he can beat them off dribble and draib the 12ft baseline shot … Between, Joe, Josh, Jamal, and Horford…then Bibby, Mo Evans, Zaza and Co. we do have a nice line-up, and if LD’s offense anything other than I-So’s to Joe, I think we are very competitive… Teams have to play us, and they have to match up…
NBA ball is all about match ups.
O'Brien
August 8th, 2010
5:08 pm
atlsouthside,
You know NBA contracts are guaranteed, right? So even if the Hawks release Marvin as you suggested, they still have to play every penny that his contract requires.
O'Brien
August 8th, 2010
5:09 pm
IMO, there is nothing wrong with having a preference, so the Hawks need to be careful.
For example, picture a high school student who plays both football and baseball. He is a better prospect at football, and that is what he is being recruited for by big time college football programs.
However, he chooses the college that will allow him to play baseball, because that is his first love. Regardless of what fans think, or what the Hawks think, I think it is in their best interest to give Al more minutes at PF (like Drew has said).
The last thing the Hawks want, is for the team to struggle in Drew’s system, and then watch Al bolt in free agency for a team who promises to let him play PF full time.
atlsouthside
August 8th, 2010
5:12 pm
How many teams have enough players on their roster to defend Joe, Josh, Jamal, Horford, and (maybe a T-Mac) all at the same time…???
wuffe
August 8th, 2010
5:14 pm
Forget tmac … I am from Houston. He wont be happy unless he gets starter minutes. He was a great player and a great athlete. Next year he will be back with a vengence.
SteveW
August 8th, 2010
5:18 pm
Big Ray – the point was that Josh Smith is a high wire act now. One of the reasons he’s better at 4 than 3 is because he can’t continue the high wire act forever – age sets in. He was 6-8 220 when drafted – now 6-9 240. He will continue filling out, and resemble Karl Malone in few years and not the athletic Josh Smith we see now (he’ll probably never be as big as Malone, but maybe).
Did you want Karl Malone playing SF? Didn’t think so.
So the case against Smoove at the 3:
1) You take the top young shot blocker in recorded NBA history, and move him away from the basket as a 3. Not very smart.
2) You take a crummy jump shooter who is much better around the basket, whom LD has said would stay around the rim, and put him outside to be a crummy jump shooter – not very smart.
But if in the motion offense it doesn’t matter – why not leave him at PF or make him a C? Or shooting guard?
3) You take the man who holds the record for the biggest decrease in 3pt. attempts in NBA history from one season to the next – and move him back outside to hoist up bad jump shots – see point 2 above
4) You take one of the quickest PF’s in the game, and turn him into one of the slower SF’s in the game – and wear him out more playing outside possibly – not very smart.
5) You take the 2nd best Defensive Player in the NBA away from the basket, and away from slower PF’s – see pt.4 above
And I’m not totally against his move to 3 – but he would have to drastically improve his jumpshot, and not continue to fill out for it to work – 3’s are quicker you know.
And pleeeeease – everybody stop the 5-1 designations don’t matter in a motion offense – of course they do – or we would just sign all point guards or something.
We don’t just refuse to do that for the defensive end – but on offense, your bigs are going to have roles – double high post – pick and rolls – cuts/slashes – boxing out – etc, – stop the idiocy.
atlsouthside
August 8th, 2010
5:20 pm
tmac can start in marv’s spot…trade marv away to somebody for picks… just to dump the contract.. we’d be nice… very long and athletic. joe & tmac on the wings? josh and horford downlow?
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
5:20 pm
@wuffle: The Hawks management ASG and Sund are idiotic and incompetent IMO. So getting them the trade want matter.
Rev in Tampa
August 8th, 2010
5:22 pm
Atlsouthside, I can’t believe you would drop Marvin. He hasn’t lived up to his draft status and is missing that extra fire in the belly that would turn all his talent and height into an unstoppable force, but he is a legit NBA starter.
SteveW
August 8th, 2010
5:25 pm
O’Brien – I agree with you wholeheartedly. If Al thinks he’s getting an unnecessary banging every night – and it might decrease his career longevity, I think he would bolt.
I also agree with Nire in this case – the guys a very good Center, and if he could embrace his role….
doc
August 8th, 2010
5:25 pm
well i was going to be sensible with rondo and let him look at the stats, here they are for you teed up:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/847/career;_ylt=Anfs5jit96yTr8PKH5l3fyQBPKB4
know you are blind to making objective critiques but unfortunately stats do tell a story. funny how the suns fired a coach and they improved. of course shaq went too but not sure how it was due to shaq as he put up better numbers and consistent numbers as well as play a whole lot of minutes for a 36 yr old. it seems your objectivity is lost so i will just say co-sign to the others in their rebuttl to you.
northcyde, i made the comment about if zaza had shaq’s numbers in 23 minutes we would claim him for comeback player of the year. there is nothing shameful about what shaq did in cleveland last year. he is not the guy knocking on the queen’s mom’s door. now i like the “self-proclaimed” moniker but it didnt let you see the light through the forest you finally got this summer as far as the askg is concerned. you sometimes have to step beyond that filter too.
atlsouthside
August 8th, 2010
5:26 pm
Marvin is a starter, but not at PF on a team w/o a BIG MAN. He is weak, as a Hawks fan I see good spots in his all-around game but time is up for waiting on him to come-around…thats a grown man bruh… this is the NBA. He gotta go… T-MAC is much better than Marv, and we can pay him what we pay Marv, or a little less…
wuffe
August 8th, 2010
5:30 pm
They played the twin towers didnt they? How about the twin Power forwards. Its a first. , and Joe Johnson is really a SF/G
C Beindris
PF Horford
PF Josh Smith
SG Joe Johnson (who is really a SF/G)
PG Teague
They both play around the paint while Beindris plays top of the key. (mobile center)
This post is a just for laughs one.
doc
August 8th, 2010
5:30 pm
dr mb dont get so catty with the man MC. he calls them lies he sees them and calls them right too. he even took the time to gather data on the iso joe and how effective it was to help that argument along creative, took work and was of his own doing. he found it wasnt too fruitful and reported it if i remember right. he also has made inferences that bloggers have failed accept or read because it went against their own bias or belief. he cant help them either. so praise the man rather than degrade him sister.
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
5:34 pm
wuffe: How is that just for laughs?
SteveW
August 8th, 2010
5:35 pm
Big Ray – I am not suggesting that Horford needs to move to the 4. The below is just 1 of 3 times I know of this summer Al has spoken on the subject of another big. The Quote:
“That’s good news to Al, who thinks the Hawks definitely need to acquire a bona fide center.
“We need to get another big guy, another center, that’s able to help myself and Josh out,” he said. “We need to have someone to come in and have an impact. I think that is the position we need if we want to be any type of contender in the East.”
Al said he doesn’t necessarily mean getting a center to supplant him as the starter so he can move to power forward. Rather, it could be a scenario where the new center plays a lot of minutes and L.D. can mix and match from among the new guy, Al, Josh, Zaza and any other big guys Sund adds (a Jason Collins return is a possibility if he gets in better shape).
“I don’t have a problem splitting time [at center],” Al said. “I played a little four last year with Zaza in the game at the same time and I thought that was good. I know I am going to still play the five”
ZaZa and Al on the floor at the same time had a +5.3 last year – very good. Al likes it, while knowing he’s still going to be playing the 5 also. So Al is fueling this thing, not the fans so much at this time.
wuffe
August 8th, 2010
5:37 pm
How about this guys… I call it the Twin Powers!!! You’ve heard of the twin Towers offense. Get Biedrens at center (mobile center). He can go to the top of the key. Then play both Josh Smith AND Al Horford at PF go in the Paint. Joe Johnson will play SG/SF. Teague plays PG
Beidrins c
Horford PF
Josh Smith PF
Joe Johnson SG/SF
Teague PG
My just for fun Twin Powers heheh … will exploit my guys strengths.
wuffe
August 8th, 2010
5:39 pm
Its just for laughs cause I am just a fan … but it seems like it might work
SteveW
August 8th, 2010
5:40 pm
Big Ray – and what about this comment by Al, “I’m fine with [center] but my natural position is obviously the four,” he said.
He says his natural position is is obviously a 4
Still think it is the fans?
atlsouthside
August 8th, 2010
5:40 pm
we dont need a no-name center… i’d rather get a solid SF, and get rid of Marvin…
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
5:43 pm
@wuffe: That’s the concept it’s done all the time in a high post offense. One big guy at the free throw line (Biedrins) 2 guys on the block, Al on one side, Josh on the other. J.J. and Teague on opposite wings or JJ on a wing and Teague at top of key. What’s wrong with that?
SteveW
August 8th, 2010
5:44 pm
And what about his quote by Horford:
’That’s what I’ve been all my life,” Horford said about the proposed shift toward PF.’ “
Still think it’s the fans driving this? Sure seems like Al is.
You can take the position of Nire, that Al is wrong, but you can’t take the postion that he’s not saying he’s a natural 4
Of course since the traditional designations of 5-1 are no longer valid in LD’s offense, this is obviously a non-issue (voice dripping with sarcasm..).
Najeh Davenpoop
August 8th, 2010
5:57 pm
“So you’re asking for forgiveness, but you’re also saying that the person you offended needs to feel less offended because somebody else has offended them more than you have in the past?”
I don’t get offended by anything, especially not by things anonymous people say to me on an internet blog. I was just pointing out that throwing around insults when you get called out on your bullsh-t is not a good look. That’s all. It really is not a huge deal and I didn’t expect that this conversation would last this long.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 8th, 2010
6:00 pm
“IMO it’s not that difficult to stay under the tax while improving. To fill out that roster you could get two 2nd rd picks, considering you can pay 2nd rd picks what you wish, pay 550,000 to each”
Of course, it’s harder to do this when you SELL YOUR F-CKING 2ND ROUND PICK FOR CASH INSTEAD OF USING IT ON ANY ONE OF THREE AVAILABLE BIG MEN.
I agree though — just like small market baseball teams stay in contention with payrolls a small fraction of what the Yankees have, basketball teams that want to stay under the cap can do so if they spend their money wisely.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 8th, 2010
6:03 pm
Co-sign SteveW @ 5:18 PM.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 8th, 2010
6:16 pm
Here’s another question I have: does anyone actually know for a fact what Drew’s offense is going to be? Everyone on this blog seems to be completely convinced that it’s going to be this or that, but aside from Drew saying there will be more ball movement and less reliance on Joe, I haven’t heard anything definitive about what it will be. People are throwing around ideas about traditional positions not mattering and what not, but where are y’all getting this information from?
I honestly have a hard time believing that Drew had some amazing revolutionary ideas for running an NBA offense and simply kept it under wraps the entire time he was an assistant under Woody. I’m sure Drew’s offense will be an improvement — it’s hard NOT to be an improvement over the travvashamockery that was Woody’s offense — but it’s probably a good idea to temper our expectations a little until we actually see his offense in action as implemented by the starters in preseason. I don’t think we’re going to see anything so revolutionary that it would allow players to do things completely different from what they are accustomed to doing.
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
6:18 pm
@ Najeh Davenpoop: I agree that the Hawks should not have sold that 2nd rd pick and need to learn to work with what they are given. The front office use of picks has been horrible for the last 10 years or so and that reflects bad on Sund as well as Knight. Just think if we would have made a better pick with #2 overall instead of Marvin. Just think if we would have made a better pick instead of Josh Childress who was a lottery pick. Just think if we would have selected a better player than Sheldon Williams with #5. Just think if we would have got a better player than Acie who was a lottery guy. Now we go and sale 2nd rd picks, who you can pay whatever you wish and its not guaranteed but we whine about salary and payroll, who about making a good pick? Lastly, when we do people a second rd guy it’s to stash overseas. The dumb thing about that is you never see him for 3 years at best, or even worse you have to pay out his contract overseas which coupled with paying him his salary to play makes him a 1st round pick in money. The Hawks front office just does not get it IMO
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
6:20 pm
Drew does not have some great offense. He is just politicking trying to give people something to be intrigue or excited about
Ken Strickland
August 8th, 2010
6:30 pm
I can’t wait until the season starts, so the Hawks and new HC LDrew can make believers out of our doubters. LDrew, his OFF/DEF systems, and overall approach and philosophy, are the antithesis of everything Woodson represented as a HC.
With the number of back court players we’ll likely carry, Jamal and Jordon Crawford, JTeague, JJ, MBibby, and possibly Sy and/or MEvans, it’s obvious LDrew intends on making running and playing continuous perimeter DEF definite priorities.
I see the Hawks using their speed, quickness and athleticism to constantly attack the oppositions transition DEF. It almost goes without exception that the transition DEF of the bigger and older teams tend to be the most vulnerable. The idea is to get across half court as quickly as possible and into you OFF movement before the DEF has time to set itself up.
Rev in Tampa
August 8th, 2010
6:36 pm
“travvashamockery” – I don’t know exactly what it means but I love it! Najeh, I may I use it in a sermon sometime. I will give you the credit for the coinage. But I should ask, is there a course meaning to this word that would get me fired?
Shaq Malone
August 8th, 2010
6:37 pm
Can’t you knuckle heads see that Shaq is pretty washed up. Ok he can eat space in the paint
but that is about it besides selling popcorn and tickets.
Ken Strickland
August 8th, 2010
6:37 pm
TRUTHSPITTER-and you know this how? Can you tell us the source of your information, or just admit you’re blowing smoke? HOW CAN YOU QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF EVERYONE ELSES COMMENTS AND/OR SOURCES, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME MAKING RANDOM STATEMENTS AND OFFERING NO VIABLE SOURCES OF YOUR OWN, OTHER THAN WISHFUL THINKING ON YOUR PART?
truthspitter
August 8th, 2010
6:39 pm
Ken Strickland: I read your comments all the time and have not seen anything you state that interests me, but what exactly are you asking me how I know?
Najeh Davenpoop
August 8th, 2010
6:59 pm
Rev in Tampa, I didn’t come up with that — it’s from a Miller Lite commercial that aired during the run-up to the 2004 presidential election.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 8th, 2010
7:01 pm
“I can’t wait until the season starts, so the Hawks and new HC LDrew can make believers out of our doubters. LDrew, his OFF/DEF systems, and overall approach and philosophy, are the antithesis of everything Woodson represented as a HC. ”
Here’s what I’m talking about in my 6:16 post. Ken, I really hope you’re right with all your optimism ever since Woody got fired, but how exactly do you know this at this point in time? What has Larry Drew said or done to convince you that his system is the “antithesis” of what Woody did? To say his system is different is something I can understand, but how are you so easily convinced he is the opposite of Woody?
All I’m saying is, some healthy skepticism is not a bad thing, if for no other reason than to avoid future disappointment.
Buddy Grizzard
August 8th, 2010
7:11 pm
Too bad we traded Pau Gasol for Shareef Abdur Rahim or we might still have the best offensive center in the NBA instead of all this debate.
1992 NBA Draft
10. Atlanta Adam Keefe Stanford
11. Houston Robert Horry Alabama
1993 NBA Draft
15. Atlanta Doug Edwards Florida State
24. Houston Sam Cassell Florida State
1995 NBA Draft
16. Atlanta Alan Henderson Indiana
21. Phoenix Michael Finley Wisconsin
1998 NBA Draft
20. Atlanta Roshown McLeod Duke
25. Indiana Al Harrington St. Patrick’s HS
32. Seattle Rashard Lewis Alief Elsik HS
1999 NBA Draft
7 Washington Richard Hamilton 6-6 185 SF Connecticutt Jr.
8 Cleveland Andre Miller 6-2 204 PG Utah Sr.
9 Phoenix Shawn Marion 6-7 210 SF UNLV Jr.
10 Atlanta Jason Terry 6-2 172 PG Arizona Sr.
16 Chicago Ron Artest 6-7 233 SF St. Johns So.
17 Atlanta Cal Bowdler 6-10 253 PF Old Dominion Sr.
24 Utah Andrei Kirilenko 6-9 205 SF Russia 1981
57 San Antonio Emmanuel Ginobili Italy
2000 NBA Draft
6. Atlanta DerMarr Johnson Cincinnati Fr. SF 6-9 200
8. Cleveland Jamal Crawford Michigan Fr. PG/SG 6-6 195
43. Milwaukee Michael Redd Ohio State Jr. SG 6-6 205
2001 NBA Draft
3. Memphis Pau Gasol 7-1 220 Barcelona (From ATL via Abdur Rahim trade)
27. Atlanta Jamaal Tinsley 6-2 175 PG Iowa St. Sr.
28. San Antonio Tony Parker 6-1 180 PG (France) 1982
31. Golden State Gilbert Arenas 6-3 199 SG Arizona So.
2002 NBA Draft
8. LA Clippers Chris Wilcox 6-10 218 PF Maryland So. (From ATL via L. Wright trade)
9. Phoenix Amare Stoudemire 6-10 240 PF HSSr.
28. Sacramento Dan Dickau 6-0 170 PG Gonzaga Sr. *pick traded to Atlanta for 2003 1st rounder (Carlos Delfino)
2003 NBA Draft
21. Atlanta Boris Diaw 6-9 201 PG/SG (France) 1982
25. Detroit Carlos Delfino 6-7 191 SG/SF (Argentina) 1982
27. Memphis Kendrick Perkins 6-10 280 PF/C Beaumont, TX HSSr.
29. Dallas Josh Howard 6-6 203 SG/SF Wake Forest Sr.
2004 NBA Draft
6. Atlanta Josh Childress 6-7 196 SG/SF Stanford Jr.
17. Atlanta Josh Smith 6-8 221 SF Smyrna, GA HSSr. (Via R. Wallace trade)
2005 NBA Draft
1. Milwaukee Andrew Bogut 7-0 251 C Utah So.
2. Atlanta Marvin Williams 6-8 228 SF UNC Fr.
3. Utah Deron Williams 6-3 202 PG Illinois Jr.
4. NewOrleans Chris Paul 6-1 178 PG Wake Forest So.
2006 NBA Draft
5. Atlanta Shelden Williams 6-9 258 PF/C Duke Sr.
6. Portland Brandon Roy 6-6 207 SG Washington Sr.
21. Boston Rajon Rondo 6-2 171 PG Kentucky So.
2007 NBA Draft
1. Portland Greg Oden 7-0 257 C Ohio St. Fr.
2. Seattle Kevin Durant 6-10 215 SF Texas Fr.
3. Atlanta Al Horford 6-10 244 PF Florida Jr.
11. Atlanta Acie Law 6-3 186 PG Texas A&M Sr.
12. Philadelphia Thaddeus Young 6-7 210 SF GT Fr.
2008 NBA Draft
15. Phoenix Robin Lopez 7-0 255 C Stanford So. (From ATL via Joe Johnson trade)
2009 NBA Draft
18 Minnesota Ty Lawson 6-0 197 PG North Carolina Jr. 48
19 Atlanta Jeff Teague 6-2 175 PG Wake Forest So. 49
20 Utah Eric Maynor 6-3 164 PG VCU Sr.
21 New Orleans Darren Collison 6-1 166 PG UCLA Sr.
37 San Antonio DeJuan Blair 6-6 277 PF Pittsburgh So.
2010 NBA Draft
27 Atlanta Jordan Crawford 6-4 198 SG
31 New Jersey Tibor Pleiss 7-1 235 C Germany (From ATL for $3m)
34 Portland Armon Johnson 6-3 190 PG/SG Nevada Jr.
43 LA Lakers Devin Ebanks 6-8 208 SF West Virginia So.
46 Phoenix Gani Lawal 6-9 233 PF Georgia Tech Jr.
53 Atlanta Pape Sy 6-6 185 PG/SG France Intl.
58 LA Lakers Derrick Caracter 6-9 280 PF UTEP Jr.