Atlanta Hawks: Summer skid stopped
Hawks 83, Bucks 60
Las Vegas– The Hawks ended their two-game summer skid with an 83-60 W against the Bucks. It wasn’t a thing of beauty offensively but it definitely was an impressive defensive effort. “We told them no layups,” said Lester Conner. “We told them if somebody goes by you, you are coming out of the game.”
– Richard Hendrix replaced RandMo in the starting lineup. “No reflection on Randolph,” Conner said. “It’s just that starting unit was getting us in bad holes. They were chasing us tonight.”
– Tough offensive night for JC2 but he really worked on defense. He fought through screens and challenged everything. The Hawks can use as many guys as they can get who will do that. “If your shot is not falling, you have to do something else to impact the game,” Crawford said.
– Crawford was just 3 of 12 from the field, including 0 for 2 on 3-pointers. He just didn’t have it from the start. Said Conne: “He came out and shot a bad 3, and we told him, ‘Hey, we are going to get you some shots. Don’t worry about that, just keep focusing on the defense.’ ”
– It was a good sign that even with his troubles scoring Crawford kept attacking. He’s a relentless rookie. “He’s raw but he seems to get it done,” Conner said. “It’s going to be fun to watch Jamal Crawford and Jordan Crawford at the same time out there because they have similar attack modes.”
– Teague bounced back from the poor game against the Spurs. He had 13 points, five assists and three turnovers. “I was trying to play my game,” he said. “Yesterday I was too casual and had the turnovers. I was trying to be aggressive and get into the lane. I knew if I did that, it would open up a lot of things.”
– Teague was really under control while driving to the basket. His quickness gets him into the lane and his leaping ability allows him to finish. Neither will be as easy once he plays against NBA squads but you can see the potential.
– Conner still wants to see Teague be more aggressive: “He ran the team pretty well. He made some good decisions. We are still looking for him to demand the ball more. Sometimes he can drift up and let someone else handle it and then we are all out of kilter.”
– Teague said it was one fan on Twitter talking about him getting outplayed by a D-Leaguer that got him riled up. He said he’s staying away from Twitter from now on.
– While Atlanta’s defensive pressure pretty much reduced Milwaukee to passing around the perimeter until late in the shot clock, the Hawks went hard to the rack. They were rewarded with 30 free-throw attempts vs. 10 for the Bucks. “We wanted to be the aggressor,” Crawford said. “I think that’s the reason why we won.”
– Hendrix is looking like a vet camp invite to me. He’s tough to handle in the post. But he’s not a good leaper and doesn’t use his body as well as he could to clear out space for rebounds. Hendrix has just eight total rebounds in 59 minutes. “He’s got some skills down there on the block but he tries to rebound with one arm,” Conner said. “He wasn’t coming up with enough rebounds. But overall he’s a big body and you need guys like that in this league.”
– Pape Sy (Achilles’) was scratched for the second straight game.
– There’s nothing to the rumors about a Shaq-for-Marvin sign-and-trade being close to going down. It seems an Atlanta radio station reported “unconfirmed rumors” that were the same unconfirmed rumors that were out there yesterday and had already been shot down. A Cleveland radio station picked up the Atlanta station’s rumors, and then the Atlanta station started citing the Cleveland station. This circular, inaccurate reporting all led to one of the best tweets of all time.
– Well, blog people, I’m flying out of Vegas tonight and start vacation tomorrow. Family reunion in Chicago, followed by a few days back home in Louisville, then back to Vegas for a real vacation, and then some downtime in the A.
MC
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ant banks
July 16th, 2010
9:07 am
if larry drew offense is all of that and we win 50+ games and have a decent showing in the playoffs, the michael p. woodson will neva, eva get another coaching job. i am sure woodson will be watching the hawks performance more than anyone. and if teague takes off this year, that will be further indictment on the michael p. woodson
Fundamentals
July 16th, 2010
9:10 am
Nobody cares about Woodson anymore here. He had his shot. We gave him all we could. Teague will improve greatly, as should Marvin. LD’s got the talent to keep up the 50 wins. We honestly should’ve pushed towards 60 last year. Too many lapses in concentration last season. We need a full 82 of consistent effort.
ant banks
July 16th, 2010
9:17 am
yeah, good pts fundamentals. seems like the nation is rootin against miami. i do feel that lebron has damaged his brand, especially if they dont win a ring. i still see orlando, boston at the top of the food chain in the east
vava74
July 16th, 2010
9:19 am
I would not mind the Javaris option, however, he is not the “quick type PG” which I would like to have pressurizing Teague in practice.
However, his size could give us some match up advantage in some circumstances.
drmaryb
July 16th, 2010
9:22 am
Fundamentals
Thanks for the question, What I like and What the ASG are willing to do are worlds apart!
We basically have 4M to spend without making and trades and going into the 9:08:57 AM.
If the starters are untouchable, which I vehemently disagree with? That leaves very little possibility of a trade
unless some teams wants our bench.
So with 4M available and three spots to fill? We need to go to The Piggly Wiggly to fill that shopping cart.
Having said that?
Kwame is outa’ our price range
Javaris is outa’ our price range
Shaq is outa’ our price range
Looks like we’ll be shopping from the 2 for a $1.00 Bargain Bin:
PG – Ishmael Smith from Houston’s SL Team looks amazing to me!
(They have Aaron Brooks, so maybe we can steal him, if no one is watching.)
Center – Garret Siler from Net’s SL Team looks OK to me at our price range!
(I am from Aiken, SC / Augusta, GA area – So, one for the home team there.)
Center – (Does it really matter?)
Sign a back up PF here: Hendrix. Or, Gilder at SF.
This is depressing and futile.
dap01
July 16th, 2010
9:30 am
I am so sick of forwards. We have been lied to by the Hawks management. We traded picks for $3,000,000, yet we don’t use it. We trade Childress for salary money, yet we don’t use it.
After this is over, I hope that someone ask the management of the Hawks some tough questions.
ryan
July 16th, 2010
9:49 am
Hey Cunningham is it true that Shaq to the Hawks S&T is dead and the ASG are not going to for look any more FA.
nes
July 16th, 2010
10:28 am
Hey, i like the idea of bringing in J.Crittenton to back up J. Teague, first off Crittenton is a tall point guard at 6′5″ and would add good minutes off the bench and height since we need every rebound we can get as no true center to be found. M.Bibby should be traded now as he is slowing down too much and won’t fit L.D’s new ball movement and speed system. Better sign the summer league centers before another team does or it is status quo for upcoming season.
O'Brien
July 16th, 2010
10:35 am
The hawks have roughly $4.5 mil to spend without going into luxury tax. Given that the vet minimum is $1. 3 mil, I think they will get 3 guys at the vet minimum.
I think those 3 guys should be 1 center, 1 PF, and either a PG, SF, or perimeter defender for the other spot
3Klub
July 16th, 2010
10:37 am
Nes, do you have Sunds email address so we can let him know Javaris is still out there? I though the Lakers were gonna pick him up for there Summer League.
3Klub
July 16th, 2010
10:39 am
O’Brien
Then what are they gonna do with the TA? They have to use it or loose it right?
What do you think about Crittendon coming here? Have you heard anything about him?
HoosierHawk
July 16th, 2010
10:44 am
Say hello to washed up scrubs like collins and joe smith. Thanks for saving that money to build the team Sund. And for letting the fans pay for your bad negotiating skills allowing a second tier player to be the highest paid player in the game.
Melvin
July 16th, 2010
10:45 am
MC,
Enjoy your way desire vacation. Besides, I’m sure you want missed any Hawks signings/trades while you are gone..
Bobbito Heat
July 16th, 2010
10:45 am
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2cmp5yv
macaroni tony
July 16th, 2010
10:51 am
J. Johnson G 76 37:58 .458 .369 .818 4.6 369 82 5 145 145 21.3
J. Crawford G 79 31:08 .449 .382 .857 2.5 238 61 12 137 132 18.0
J. Smith F 81 35:26 .505 .000 .618 8.7 342 130 172 198 240 15.7
A. Horford F 81 35:07 .551 1.000 .789 9.9 189 59 91 122 225 14.2
M. Williams F 81 30:28 .455 .303 .819 5.1 93 66 46 72 160 10.1
M. Bibby G 80 27:26 .416 .389 .861 2.3 310 67 3 90 157 9.1
M. Evans G 79 16:40 .445 .337 .754 1.9 48 34 17 20 125 5.7
Z. Pachulia C 78 13:58 .488 .000 .650 3.8 42 37 31 58 186 4.3
J. Teague G 71 10:07 .396 .219 .837 0.9 122 34 11 50 82 3.2
J. Smith F 64 9:15 .399 .143 .812 2.5 21 6 19 22 95 3.0
R. Morris C 28 4:27 .561 .000 .593 1.4 2 5 3 12 34 2.2
O. Hunter F 7 4:43 .333 .000 .750 1.7 0 0 1 3 5 1.6
M. West G 39 3:39 .571 .000 .600 0.7 9 8 0 7 25 0.8
J. Collins C 24 4:47 .348 .000 .000 0.6 4 3 2 5 21 0.7
and you say trade JS he was the second in assist, first in blocks and steals, second in rebounds and third in points scored
macaroni tony
July 16th, 2010
11:00 am
JJ had only five block shots last season and Bibby had three. Jason C. had only two and RandMo had only three. I don’t want Joe Smith, RandMo, and JCollins back. We need players so that we can win.
vava74
July 16th, 2010
11:12 am
drmaryb,
Always fun to read your posts, however, this time I think you blew it with Javaris being outside our affordability threshold.
Right now with all the baggage he is carrying (injuries, gun incident, relatively poor play, …) he is within MY AFFORDABILITY threshold to fill in an opening as a gardener…
3Klub
July 16th, 2010
11:22 am
I agree VaVa74. We have more than enough $ to offer him, and playing time.
cp
July 16th, 2010
11:29 am
Well it looks like Ronnie Brewer is going to either Chicago or the Cavs… Looks like we will be adding the summer league guys to our team. I dont mind Hendrix and Aminu though I would let them battle it out for a spot….
Najeh Davenpoop
July 16th, 2010
11:30 am
Heh… Bobbito, I would love that trade, but there is no way in hell Cleveland does it.
ryan
July 16th, 2010
11:57 am
I just don’t why the Hawks sign Shaq as a unrestricted FA instead of a S&T no other team wants Shaq or what i think the Hawks should do is save there money they got with the Childress trade and wait till next year and go after Tim Duncan and Yao Ming .
drmaryb
July 16th, 2010
12:07 pm
Vava
I know, I was actually thinking Javaris Hayes, forgot all about Crittendon.
Anyway, nonetheless, IDK if Javaris Hayes from UGA is still even in the league. LOL!
Man, VaVa, sifting through the bargain bin is NOT my style.
I like Prada and Gucci! (Smile).
Window Shopping is like dreaming of a date with Beyonce (and I’m a female)
So, you know that’s outa’ reach! That’s what being a Hawks Fan feels like these days. If, I moved to L.A. – All my problems would be solved!
ROF.
Reid Adair
July 16th, 2010
12:08 pm
Since the Shaq scenario has proven to be false, as many of us expected, who are the Hawks allegedly considering now with this additional “spending” they said they would do in addition to Joe Johnson’s max contract?
O'Brien
July 16th, 2010
12:12 pm
3KLUB,
If hawks don’t use the TPE within 1 year, it will expire. But I don’t see them using it.
As for crittendon, I’m a GT fan, and I watched some of his college games. If I remember correctly, he forced the issue too many times.
But part of that was because Hewitt is not a good coach IMO. and the talent wasn’t that good around him.
However, I would give him a shot (bad choice of words). But he is a low risk, high reward Guy.
SWAT Native
July 16th, 2010
12:13 pm
I ended up watching the Wizards-Mavs game last night. I was very impressed wtih Jevele McGhee; it would be nice to pick him up, but I think the Wizards are too high on him. I also was impressed by Jeremy Lin, an asian point guard from Harvard. He’s a little raw, but he would be a nice pick up if he slips through the cracks.
drmaryb
July 16th, 2010
12:15 pm
Reid
“They Lie”
Sorry – Sucks being you!
Najeh Davenpoop
July 16th, 2010
12:49 pm
” who are the Hawks allegedly considering now with this additional “spending” they said they would do in addition to Joe Johnson’s max contract?”
Joe Smith, Randolph Morris, and Jason Collins. Maybe even Mario West.
3Klub
July 16th, 2010
12:51 pm
Javaris has been in the league a few years, and pg’s usually take time to catch on so we may be in a great possition to pick him up now.
O’Brian, do you realy think they’l let the TPE expire and only be left with a 2nd for Chills? Now way, I realy hope that’s not the case.
Is Mark Price still on the coaching staff?
O'Brien
July 16th, 2010
1:03 pm
3Klub,
I dont see the Hawks using it this off-season, because using it means going over the luxury tax, which they dont want to.
They could wait until the trade deadline to use it though, depending on how the season is going.
Najeh,
I think the Hawks are considering Othello Hunter too.
Bobbito Heat
July 16th, 2010
1:15 pm
Hey Najeh,
ESPN Trade Machine doesn’t allow us to trade draft picks though… You think if the Cavs received a pick or two from us and the Hornets they might pull the trigger on that deal?? They like Marvin alot and they desperately need a big man with Shaq and Z gone. And they get to unload Mo’s contract in the deal. I think they could go for it!
que nique'
July 16th, 2010
2:14 pm
MC. Maybe Mbenga and/or Powell could fill a bigs’ role (after Lakers make their move,somebodys’ gettin’ let go…) if Joe would give up a couple bucks to recruit.Price tag might fit. Worth it anyone? Would someone in ATL.media ask JJ if he’s willing to sacrifice bucks like “elite players” do to recruit/upgrade his team?
Najeh Davenpoop
July 16th, 2010
2:19 pm
“I think the Hawks are considering Othello Hunter too.”
Oh yeah, forgot about him. I wonder if we will also be seeing Cedric Bozeman, Matt Frieje, and Obinna Ekezie. Might as well…
Najeh Davenpoop
July 16th, 2010
2:20 pm
Anthony Grundy? Mike Wilks? Jeremy Richardson? Corey Benjamin?
Jon
July 16th, 2010
4:02 pm
I think Earl Barron, Craig Smith and Jarvis Crittenton would be fine upside additions to this team and probably at the right price.
I blog with more Heart
July 16th, 2010
4:04 pm
ASG lies to us fans, their trying to make us think their trying so we keep comming to games, thats the only reason they sign Joe for attendence money, they have stood pat and have done no kind of team upgrade whatsoever, just lip service. Please change the name cause the last thing this group represents is The Atlanta Sprit, Thanks Falcons and Braves for at least trying.
ATL
July 16th, 2010
6:28 pm
if this is what we are stooping to in kwame brown lets just let it be known again who kwame brown is : lol
kwamebrownsucks.com
yes there really is a website scroll down to check out the video on that website on how steven a smith, views kwame, or just look at the page in general
ATL
July 16th, 2010
6:31 pm
im so excited i cant belive it jason collins the big jc is gnna be back, joe fucn smith damn maybe he can make another rap song for us this year, and mario west and randmo, damn we r gnna kill it guys, randmo is like sloth , and mario west is a broke mans tony allen , wait thats given him credit more like a …. nope never saw soemone who didnt have game liek that lol hahaha damn asg needs to sell this team, hopefull atl is the team moven to vegas under new oweners,
ATL
July 16th, 2010
6:35 pm
and y u ask, bc all u bum ass fans , who dont go to the games why are they gonna spend money, we have a 53 win team 3rd in the east, and still nobody shows up, so why bother, spendign the money all you fake as fans, are to busy comparing your team to orland and the heat and th elakers, instead of sayen wow we do have a great team, we just need to get a better offense defensive mindedn coach , dwight howard didnt beat us , th emagic did, how , from the 3 ball bc we dbled dwight the whole game, give your team some support and maybe they will do something but untill then im sad im in th esame category as a hawks fan as some o fyou pple and i live in ny , and i still fly to atl to watch games, your a sad group of pple, i really do hope atl moves so we can get a better fanbase instead of a bunch of pathetic asss pple who neeed ot just pick a diffrent team. its so annyoing h=always reading blogs about pple bicthen abou tbibby wo turned the team aroun djoe th eonly all star here in years, marvin who hasnt even been given a chance , the way msot hi picks do, he was in a system where he was 5th option what do you want him to do , horford all star center stop btchen hes not a pf, smoove he the glue to the puzzle, yall pple r stupid, cmon now, next year jamal comes off the book we will resign him for cheap have salry cap room and probally get soemthign good, stop expecten miracles, untill this team is sold
ATL
July 16th, 2010
6:39 pm
THE LAS VEGAS…. HAWKS? maybe
ATL
July 16th, 2010
6:45 pm
usher cleavland , jayz lebron why not t.i or jermaien stepend up in atl
ATL
July 16th, 2010
6:48 pm
number 3 team in the east , and we cant sell any game or nobody shows up and evrybody bitches when theres no money to spend, blame urselves, this team would be golden anywhere else but u sorry ass atlanta pple, who cant support a team , seriosuly jump on a diff band wagon so they move the team out, so when real atlanta fans who obviously live in other states and still make it to games, can see pple there , or actually have a fan base then, u sorry ass patchetic pple, the hwaks shudnt even be in the same category as the braves or the falcons u atl pple are just as sour as cleavland fans, ecept ur not burnen jerseys yet bc u dotn have the heart cle does, ur a bunch of sad as ppl ewho talk to much, about a great team , and hwen u lose em , ima laugh, and so will joe johnson, why, bc, he can actually leave ur sorry as state
Terrell
July 16th, 2010
8:00 pm
For all those pushing we should’ve won 60 games last year and all that, I hear you, but we’ve seen Cleveland win 60 games the last 2 years and not get to the NBA Finals. That’s all that matters to me. I would like for us to get 60 of course, but what matters to me is if we can win 16 games when they count the most, and you all know what 16 games I am talking about.
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John
July 17th, 2010
2:35 pm
Hendrix is much better than Randolph Morris. You can just go back and look at their college play and it is easy to see. Randolph is still getting by on his hype from high school and AAU.
nunna!
July 17th, 2010
2:52 pm
ATL..I like your emotions!!!!
And i kinda agree with some of what u say,but let me ask u a question bruh…
Which hawks player are you??
For real?? Are u bibby,teague aka mr.twitter,j-smoove wit da bad spelling,or,are you Mike Woodson??
All of your betchen and moaning(and i too can spell,i know kids are reading this) sounds like its coming from a “PLAYERS PRESPECTIVE”,for real!!
I want everyone to imagine watching a player and a fan on tv in a press conference and they are asked by the interviewer,”whats up with the hawks fans”?
And imagine a fan answering the question and saying what ATL wrote,then a player in a hawks uniform answering it saying the exact same thing as well as ATL said too!!
And u can see why it sounds more like a player,coach,or someone in the ORGANIZATION..Or,it may be someone outside the hawks who is an athlete..
U never know
Hawkie Talkie
July 17th, 2010
3:40 pm
So much for Brad Miller.
Ken Strickland
July 17th, 2010
11:08 pm
For a team that’s not flushed with cash, I think the Hawks are taking the correct approach when it comes to addressing the backup center situation. After all, we did manage to win 53gms and finish 3rd in the East with Zaza basically being the only backup center used regularly.
First, we need to see what we have in PG JTeague. Why should we feel pressured to over spend on a center now when we might find out by the trade deadline that we need a starting PG more? Secondly, we need to see if HC LDrew and his new OFF can get SF MWilliams back on track, which could also end up being a major need.
A number of the centers who decided not to opt out of the final yr of their contracts, could very well end up becoming trade bait by the trade deadline, and at a much cheaper cost. By that time, we should definitely have a handle on exactly what we need most, be it PG, SF, C, or any combination of the 3.
We should also have a good idea about what we have in Jordan Crawford, and whether he’s good enough, and/or has progressed enough, for us to consider the possibility of trading Jamal Crawford’s expiring contract by the trade deadline.
As far as Shaq is concerned, all of you who are so enamored with us acquiring him should think for a moment. If, as he’s indicated, he wants to start and get starter money, and we don’t want him as a starter, nor are we willing to pay him starter money, why waste time with anyone this unreasonable.
If he’s having difficultly dealing with the reality of his situation now, you can bet he’s going to have problems with the reality of the situation he’d be in with us, and will end up causing major problems. STAY AWAY FROM THAT FOOL.
dap01
July 18th, 2010
7:39 am
If ATL is a player, we can assume it’s a player that did not go to college.
G Money
July 18th, 2010
9:04 am
Have a great vacation! You’ve done a great job over the last 12 months. Thanks.
Ken Strickland
July 18th, 2010
8:26 pm
JO MAMA/TRUTH SERUM-Once again you demonstrate the extreme limits of your ability to engage in rational thought. Why would you make an issue of getting rid of JTeague, because you claim he sucks, yet never make an issue of getting rid of MBibby, who definitely sucked, both offensively and defensively?
Your suggestion of training Jordon Crawford as a PG is equally stupid. What do you suggest we do for a PG while we’re waiting for him to develop, assuming it can be successfully done? And what center do you suggest we trade Teague and Marvin for? Since we certainly can’t trade them for an All Star caliber center, you are certainly the only person ANAL MINDED enough to suggest we use AHorford, AN ALL STAR CENTER, as a backup to a none All Star caliber center and PF.
STUPID IS IS STUPID DOES!!