Atlanta Hawks: What happened in Vegas

This summer league is all about preparing Teague.

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First, and I hope to see more aggression and passion out of Teague in the next game. He has the ability, but seem reluctant to use it sometimes.

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Looks like Shaq wont be taking discounts to come here which does does not bode well for our prospects of gettiing. I hope ASG proves me wrong on that one. RandMo obviously won’t cut

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I liked what I saw in Teague..he seem very under control, exactly what a PG should do. Last season under Woodson, he seemed to rush everything, his shots, not knowing when to pass the ball or shot it. But tonight, I saw NONE OF THAT!! He doesnt have to creat his own shot, he has JC2 for that. He just needs to continue to play what the defense gives him; let the game come to him. I also liked what Hendrex, Aminu, & James Augustine showed tonight as well. Pape Sy has a swag about him that I like..I cant put my finger on it but I’m starting to see what Larry Drew saw he him in try-outs. I think he could be a ‘Colision’ to us in the future like he is to Chris Paul.

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“Why didn’t Gladyr play more?”

lol.. Grandad.. cause he couldnt guard you.. forget about raining jumpers on him, you could take him straight to the rack.. probably draw the foul and finish..

smh. but, he can shoot..

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Where will the San Antonio-Atlanta game be on. I’m in San Antonio currently and I’d like to see it somehow.

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12th (man off the bench)?
Good to see some highlights and action. Kinda surprised Mayo was out there, considering his draft status. Leadership move on his part or developmental concerns on MEM coaches part?

Teague looked fast in the highlights, although most of them were MEM-related.

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Just don’t think Shaq is the answer foor the full season. The Hawks look to have a fast moving team and that just is not the style for Shaq.

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I said it draft night and I’ll repeat it.

Jordan Crawford is a baller.

Jay Bilas wasn’t lying when he said that this kid puts it in the basket easier than any other guy in the draft. Pick #27, the Hawks got a gem. Value pick my a$$, this guy is already *good* with the potential to be *great*.

And I agree with what northcyde said on that last blog. LD might seriously want to reconsider holding this guy back in any way. This guy is a pure scorer. I personally think JC2’s one of those guys that won’t care even if LD’s very critical of his shot selection. He’ll take tough shots, but he’ll make more of them than he’ll miss. We’ll see how he fares, but I’ve been high on this guy for quite some time. Watched him play whenever I could throughout this past NCAA season at Xavier – and the kid was a baller.

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I keep telling you peaple that Teague is not a point guard he’s a shooting guard. Mr Sund BLEW IT! I told him to take Darren Collison. Mr Sund BLEW IT AGAIN! He shoulda drafted Hassan Whiteside instead of that guy from France. The way it looks Jordan Crawford need to play the point because like Teague said he is a good passer. He had more assists(5) and points(16) than Teague.

1)Jordan Crawford-pg
2)JJ____________gg
3)JS____________sf
4)AH___________ph
5) Shaq_________c

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Tony what the heck is a gg. just kidding
nut we’re going to have to get over the desire for shaq though.
give it some time, this is what three or four practicies and one game..
gees

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It’s only one game, but Jordan Crawford’s looking like a steal. I thought Jeff Teague played ok, but didn’t exhibit great court vision at times.

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Its summer league!!
Like hawks 4 life said,teague had teammates that blew shots on great passes from him.
I liked what i saw in Jordan Crawford,he could be a steal and we can get something for bibby from a team that will need a PG..I know about his contract,but,for a team without a solid starter or vet backup,he will be great trade bait..And,i still believe that Mo Evans will be gone if bibbs is traded..

NBA TV is replaying the hawks game at 10:00am this morning.

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Marcus,

I believe O.J. Mayo is there to adjust to playing the PG position. He was a SG, but Memphis wants him to try playing the point.

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Hawks4life,

Yeah, there will always be questionable comments as long as uninformed people are posting.

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The WHOLE POINT of getting the trade exception should be that we can NOW PAY for SHAQ. He will bring TICKET REVENUE TO THE HAWKS TO MAKE UP for his BIG SALARY.

WTF?

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I wish this team would find a way to get a legit center and deadly 3 point shooter!!!!

options at center: Sam Dalembert, Tyson Chandler, Shaq (dont really want the trouble)
all we need him to do is rebound and block shots if he can get 8-10 pts fine. Move Al to PF Josh to small forward and yes i said JOSH SMITH to SMALL FORWARD!!! With all players they need to know their role and their needs if you cant get him to do whats needed then can him.

Center: pick one
Power Forward: AL
Small Forward:Josh
SG: Joe
Pg:Teague/Bibby

As bad as i want Marvin gone I really believe he will take 2 steps forward under Drew. But he is about the bargaining chip we have to trade for a center right now.

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Hawks front office please don’t let Shaq pull a Jon Koncak.

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Bailer

But you didn’t keep your mouth shut? You only posted that you would.

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just a question….why would the hawks want shaq in a fast paced offensive system………..does not make sense to me

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Wabe ,
YThe reason JD wants to “hold him back” is because JC2 has to learn how to be the 2nd 3rd or maybe 4th option. He won’t be The Guy here like he was in Xavier. JD is trying to teach how to play off the ball and use better shot selection.

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Mz Hawkdafied- I watched the game online last night at ESPN3.com. Also check your cable provider, if you have Direct TV. I was paying $12.00 extra until I happened to notice that NBA-TV is now including in the regular monthly packag. They failed to tell me that. So I’d been paying $12.00 extra since October. Talk about pissed!!

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I struggle to believe we won’t have a roster spot for a PG that can play D. If Pape continues to improve, I can see him in a Hawks uniform sooner than everyone thinks. Which would mean this would be the biggest scouting triumph in Hawks history. Whoever found this guy should be looking for a rise if that happens.

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Just read the bobcats want to let Tyson Chandler go they want a point guard in the deal. Marvin and Bibby would do the trick thats if they would take Bibby LOL. Marvin would probably get up there with Jordan and go for 25 pts a night. LOL

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Sund has led the NBA this Year in most bone head moves. He is effectively taking a 53win 3rd seeded team and castrating them to 6th or 7th seed by his insistence on implementing his failed strategy of using power forwards to play center and by choosing to pinch pennies rather than make a bold address to the Hawks serious issues.

Every economical opportunity we’ve had to go after or address an starting center has past. Whats left is a fading Shaq (hes still better than horford) and not much else, nothing that will get us in the big three category which is where we were we the summer began. We definitely lost ground. We had 4/5 years of upward mobility, to reach the 3rd seed. With the right pieces we could have held that and perhaps ventured further. We were headed in the right direction. There was no need to reverse course, change directions. This decision came from a man who has never won a championship, and never will using his philosophy of powerforwards quickness in place of a centers dominance.

Let me respectfully submit that it would be best for the organization to fire Sund and lets get turn back towards the top before we end up in the lottery in 2 years.

The ultimate bone head move would be to move one of ,if not the best powerforward in the game to Small forward to make room for another forward who is not as good as him. In reaching out to find a place for horford who is a good player but not the caliber of player Josh is lets not fix what works and works very well. Al may be better suited to come off the bench and back up the center and Josh and log the same number of minutes he gets now. If any one should move to the 3 it should be Al. He has a face up jumper in the lane. But Josh is extremely effective and unselfish as a power forward. There are so many dimensions to his game and he has so many tools. The man is a buddy superstar. Leave Josh right where hes at! DFWJ. The college park player is going to be a star for a long time.

here’s a little breakfast you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocaatPvI90k

and just in case you for got hes not long out of high school

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSoCSLi_WZs&feature=related

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*breakfast for you

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Thanks dsteelite didn’t know that. And yes I do have Directv. When did they change that? Because I’ve been paying extra for a few years now. I’m about to call them right now.

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The Miami Heat trifecta has adversely affected the Hawks management’s game plan to the point that there is confusion on how best-cost wise of course-to proceed with the upcoming season.
The option of making the resigning of Joe the singular accomplishment o the off season has been removed because of having to face one or more of the new Heat seekers on an individual basis, they have to contend with all of them on a division rival.
Issues like w/not Teague can be the starting PG; All Star Al’s ability to play the 4 on a regular and consistent basis and Joh’s willingness to assume the mantle of leadership equal to his ability are crtical in the context of an even more competitive climate.

Now the suits have to add more pieces to the mix, without breaking the budget PLUS find away to increase attendance. Looks like this is going to be a long summer.

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Summer league is just summer league, but it does make you want young hungry talent on this team. Pape and Aminu sound like a good fit. Gladyr needs to learn some D, but you can’t coach quickness. JC2 and JT seem to be ideal for the coming fast paced offense.

I hope to see Marvin kept at least until Feb.

See what we can get for Bibby & Mo. Sorry Randmo, I’ve supported you 100%, but you’ve gotta produce! Seems Mario, Joe Smith and Collins are dissappearing. Question is who fills that role? I say roll the dice on young hungry players to search for a gem.

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@ Hawkdafied….They told me it was changed in October. I threw a b*#ch-fit and they gave me a $5.00 for three months. I wasn’t happy but at least I got something.

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What teams need someone like Mo & Evans and our trade exeption that have a big – even an exerimental one?

Can we sign Matt Barnes for perimeter D? What $$ should he command?

ORL is looking to deal Gortat?

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If Shaq doesn’t wanna come off the bench, then that conversation about him being a Hawk is over as far as I’m concerned.

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Question remember a month ago when we too Pape everyone was up in arms “Why take this bummy euro” etc. turns out dude has a little game to him. Came out timid at first but was on the floor leading the comeback. Still early but oh how quick we judge.

PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE!!!

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Barnes definitely and maybe Gortat would be a nice fit to what we need, then use the other slots with potential like Sy, Crawford V2, even Aminu if they continue to produce and show the will to compete.

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It looks like Miami has just completed assembling their starting lineup. They resigned OHaslem, which means CBosh will have to play center, and are about to sign MMiller. Pat Riley has put a very good starting lineup together, and I know he’s chomping at the bit to coach this team. He’ll be looking for any usable excuse, like the team getting off to a slow start, to take over the team he’s put together.

If JPryzbilla is still available, we should make him an offer and force Portland to either match it or do a sign and trade. In a S&T, we could send them MBibby and MEvans, who’s combined salaries are $8.06M for Pryzbilla, and use a portion of the exemption to makeup any difference in salaries. Then we could use one of our trade exemptions to sign a backup PG and whatever else we feel we need.

I wouldn’t waste my time with Shaq at this point. It’s obvious we’re nothing more than a fall back option for him, and he’s trying to extort max money from us, since he knows he’ll come here are a backup. It’s obvious no one else is interested enough in him to offer him more than a MLE, so why should we be willing to pay more?

We could also try the EOkafor deal I mentioned earlier. The Hornets might really be interested in taking on MEvans’ $2.5M expiring contract and MBibby’s $5.56M contract, which will be expiring after this season (total $8.06M), for Okafor’s $11.5M contract. We use the trade $3M trade exemption to make the salaries match. The numbers certainly work, and we’d still have our biannual and full MLE available to sign whatever else we need.

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Good comments Ken. I think we let Joel go to early back in the day. He’s a big banger. What are the indications that he’s 100% after last years injury? Question is will Portland part ways since Oden has been so injury prone?

I think the Hornets will do something this summer? Not sure what, but they don’t need Bibby with their 2 PG’s already under contract.

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dstdeelite checked it out, turns out NBA TV was a part of the sports package originally but was swapped with another channel and is included and you no longer need the sports package in order to access NBA TV. Thanks again for the info, appreciate it.

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RIP MR STEINBRENNER!!!

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Just saw about 4 or 5 blown assists for Teague. Great passes with either missed shots or fumbling the pass.

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FUNDAMENTALS-it’s not Bibby they’d be interested in, but his contract, which will be a very trad-able expiring contract after this season. The Hornets would immediately save $3M in the deal, and an additional $2.5M when MEvans’s contract expires. They could easily trade Bibby’s expiring contract after this season, which would yield a total savings of $11.6M.

They could then offer CP3 a max contract(he’s already making around $15M)and have more than enough left over to add more talent. For the Hornets, the fruits of the trade would take place next season. The only issue with Pryzbilla is his willingness to return to the Hawks. He was upset at BK for trading him after he had such a productive stay here, and it left a bad taste in his mouth.

I would actually consider Pryzbilla a better health risk than Shaq. The main reason the relationship between he and Kobe soured was because Kobe felt Shaq was a slacker and wouldn’t play through injuries he felt weren’t that serious. We’ve already seen Kobe’s willingness to make sacrifices and play through injuries. It might have been the reason Shaq and DWade’s relationship soured as well. After winning the title, Shaq stayed injured most of the time, so they sent his butt packing.

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Tony, Teague is not a pg, but Jordan Crawford is? Wtf?

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I’m going to ride with JT0, I just wish Woody would have gave him more burn by seeing him tonight and the last game of the season. I think that you can give us CP3 numbers now and we don’t have to go in the luxury tax to get it done. When messed up on getting him years ago, and not we have a several players (Sy, JC2, and JT0) giving time they will grow. I watched some of the 2nd half of the game and I think JT0 will be a good pg for us this season, he also gives us the speed that we need out there.

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Reddick for 7 mill a year? Wow! And we complain about Marvin for 8. lol!

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Quentin Richardson to Orlando?

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Teague had more than 3 assists. He should have been in double figures in assists, actually. Too many fumbled balls by the guys he was passing to.

I’d like to label Jordan Crawford a contributor, but I also know this is just one game. All the same, his game is pretty smooth. He was a baller for real once he got over that slow start. Kid could’ve had 20 points easily, and he’s fearless with the ball in his hands.

Randolph Morris is doing his best to prove that he does NOT belong on an NBA roster. I’d rather have Sheldon Williams back, and THAT is saying something…

Aminu is going to be somebody’s Solomon Jones. Hendrix has a bit of a shot somewhere.

I don’t think we’re going to sign Shaq. Whispers everywhere is that he wants more money than we’re willing to pay, and he may not be amenable to coming off the bench.

As long as we don’t come back with a trio like Joe Smith (though I really think we didn’t use him nearly enough), Jason Collins, and Randolph Morris. We MUST do better than that. MUST.

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@ Big Ray explain to me how you figure that JT0 can’t produce 20 and 10 and game. I think that he can, at least by the middle of the season. Even CP3 started as backup to Speedy.

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If the Hawks signed Shaq, it seems ZaZa would get much fewer minutes………

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@MC Any word on any PF, C that the Hawks have contacted lately? Also I thought we wanted to fill out the roster with veteran type players.

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@ Rev in Tampa JC2 did not have more points than Teague they both had 16 points, and it took JT0 less shots to get those points. I think that JT0 is a pg, and nothing else.

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Who else see’s JT0 as a shooting guard even though he try to get others around him involved in the game like a pg does. He had the green light and could have tried to get all the points to himself but he didn’t as a true pg.

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@ Rev In Tampa I apologize, and I agree with you..

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@ Cunningham Thanks.

I also think it would be better to pursue Okafor than Shaq so let me co-sign that post

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Why’s everyone knocking Joe Smith? Woody barely gave the man a chance to do his thing.

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But he’s a true 7 footer and E.O is only 6′10

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@MC what does Your comment is awaiting moderation.mean

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terrell, when did I say Jordan Crawford is a pg? Show some class young man. Teague and Jordan are shooting guards make no mistake about it. I just said that maybe they should move Jordan to the 1 since Teague said that he(Jordan) was a good passer. You got these so-call experts on this board making excuses for Teague because he didn’t have more assists. Heck, if Magic Johnson teammates didn’t fumble the ball at times he would have had more assists to. Every pg in the league would have more assits if their teammates didn;t fumble the ball. WEAK EXCUSE!

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Here are the centers available and last years salary. I think realistically with our cap situation there are only a few we can afford.

Theo Ratliff
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Team Player Age Type 09/10 Salary Signed by:
Atlanta Jason Collins(notes) 31 U $825,497
Atlanta Randolph Morris(notes) 24 U $855,189
Charlotte Theo Ratliff(notes) 37 U $825,497
Chicago Jerome James(notes) 34 U $6,600,000
Chicago Brad Miller(notes) 34 U $12,250,000
Cleveland Zydrunas Ilgauskas(notes) 35 U $925,000
Cleveland Shaquille O’Neal(notes) 38 U $21,000,000
Dallas Brendan Haywood(notes) 30 U $6,000,000 Agreed to 6 years, $55 million with Mavs
Denver Johan Petro(notes) 24 U $825,497 Agreed to 3 years, $10 million with Nets
Detroit Kwame Brown(notes) 28 U $4,000,000
Detroit Ben Wallace(notes) 35 U $825,497 Agreed to 2 years, $3.8 million with Pistons
Golden State Chris Hunter(notes) 26 R $632,455
Golden State Anthony Tolliver(notes) 25 R $427,317
L.A. Clippers Brian Skinner(notes) 34 U $825,497
L.A. Lakers DJ Mbenga(notes) 29 U $959,111
Memphis Steven Hunter(notes) 28 U $3,696,000
Miami Joel Anthony(notes) 27 U $825,497
Miami Jamaal Magloire(notes) 32 U $825,497
Milwaukee Primoz Brezec(notes) 30 U $825,497
Minnesota Nathan Jawai(notes) 23 R $736,420
Minnesota Darko Milicic(notes) 25 U $7,540,000 Agreed to 4 years, $20 million with Wolves
Minnesota Oleksiy Pecherov(notes) 24 U $1,547,640
New Jersey Tony Battie(notes) 34 U $6,606,600
New Jersey Josh Boone(notes) 25 U $2,056,968
New Orleans Aaron Gray(notes) 25 R $1,000,497 Agreed to 2-year deal with Hornets
New York Earl Barron(notes) 28 U $48,559
Oklahoma City Etan Thomas(notes) 32 U $7,906,088
Orlando Adonal Foyle(notes) 35 U $825,497
Philadelphia Francisco Elson(notes) 34 U $1,700,000
Phoenix Channing Frye(notes) 27 U $1,990,000 Agreed to 5 years, $30 million with Suns
San Antonio Ian Mahinmi(notes) 23 U $989,670
Toronto Rasho Nesterovic(notes) 34 U $1,990,000
Toronto Patrick O’Bryant(notes) 24 U $855,189
Utah Kyrylo Fesenko(notes) 23 R $870,000

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Hoops another guard? Pass we need some big men!!!

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Thoughts from last night

Teague may be the fastest guy in the NBA, that said, he is not ready to start this year in my opinion. His 4th year, if he develops, yes. but not now.

Jordan Crawford is better than I thought.

RandMo is worse than I thought

Aminu is athletic, needs work in the weight room

Sy is the real deal. In a couple of years, he may be impressive off the bench playing the 2 and 3 spots.

And without Shaq the Hawks are in trouble signing a good FA Center. Miller leaning Bulls. Tolliver is better and younger than Joe Smith – I say get him as backup 4. Kwame may be better than Jason Collins (I hope) – maybe get him and Aminu and call it finished up front if we miss out on Shaq.

I wouldn’t mind another PG (Rafer Alston? if he’s mentally ready) and if we dumped Mo’ in a trade, wouldn’t mind bringing Matt Barnes off the bench behind Marvin.

P.S. Keep Marvin – 24 yrs. old this year – he may be a stud at 26 and still have 2 yrs. left on his contract at 7.5m – a real bargain – 6-9 240 – can play either forward spot.

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Sund is brilliant however – The Master Plan:

Jamal and Mo walk in Free agency summer 2011 – we use that extra 13m to: Re-sign Horford, pay for JJ’s 10.5% raise, and get Sy and maybe Gladyr off the bench.

Summer 2012 Bibby’s 6m off the books – and if we sign Shaq, his 6m gone also – we use the savings to get another PG behind Teague, and a Center, and save money to sign Josh Smith in 2013.

2013 – ZaZa’s 4.75m comes off the books, will re-sign for alot less probably – that savings is used to also re-sign Josh Smith.

Sund has it all planned out – sharper than a tack – all this could blow up with trades or injuries however…..

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I don’t know what Tolliver will cost, but the thought of him backing up Josh really intrigues me. He’s a brute underneath.

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No one mentions that Teague turned the ball over on a sloppy play with a chance to take the lead with a minute left. Given, in a real NBA game Jamal might be the one in the game in that situation even if Teague starts. Still- at this point I do not trust Bibby or Teague enough to be the starter.

I think we need a guy to play a role like Ridnour did on the Bucks last year. A solid player, doesn’t make mistakes, can get you a 3 now and again. He didn’t demand starting minutes, but he could play. So when Jennings needed to be reeled in a bit, they had a solid guy to go in. Maybe Bibby could do tht, but he neeeds to be in the gym all summer working on getting some quickness on D back.

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TRUTH SERUM-Sometimes you make comments that are so utterly stupid and senseless, one would have to think it was made by a complete ANAL MINDED MORON. You said: “HE(RSund)IS EFFECTIVFELY TAKING A 53 WIN 3RD SEEDED TEAM AND CASTRATING THEM TO 6TH OR 7TH SEED BY HIS INSISTENCE ON IMPLEMENTING HIS FAILED STRATEGY OF USING POWER FORWARDS TO PLAY CENTER AND CHOOSING TO PINCH PENNIES RATHER THAN MAKE A BOLD ADDRESS TO THE HAWKS SERIOUS ISSUES.”

First, are you really dumb enough to think offering JJohnson a max contract to resign is penny pinching, and wasn’t a bold move?

Secondly, wasn’t AHORFORD, the center you’ve been complaining about, the center that led the Hawks to those 47 and 53 wins and 4th and 3rd seeds respectively over the last 2yrs?

STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!!!

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The frustrating part about the center situation is that Shaq has what we need physically, just not in terms of role and attitude. We need a guy who is cool with 15 minutes a game and is there solely for shot blocking, defense, and a certain Orlando center. Shaq can do that, but he will start to whine about minutes, not starting, etc. I’d rather have a Camby, B. Wallis (maybe 2 yrs ago) or a Chandler (although too expensive and questionable health). Whiteside hd like 5 blocks in his debut. Just sayin…..

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HoosierHawk – I couldn’t agree more. If Bibby is training like he did to get his contract 2 years ago, he might be the guy – Teague has great attributes, he just doesn’t look ready yet too me.

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In my opinion, 3 years $19 mil for JJ Redick is over-paying. But 2 things to keep in mind. Redick does something really well (shoot the 3), and because he was restricted, Chicago had to overpay in order to reduce the likelihood of Orlando matching, so I understand the deal.

Interesting stat: Anthony Tolliver, a 6’11” center, played 46 games, averaging 31 mpg. But he made 50-152 3pt FG. Marvin played 81 games, averaged 31 mpg, and made 40-132 3pt FGs. I thought Marvin had worked on the 3 ball.

That being said, I like Anthony Tolliver and his ability to stretch the floor. Plus he made the minimum last year. Sign him up, and then sign another wide body down low.

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STEVEW-Although Nate Robinson is listed as a PG, he really doesn’t have true PG skills, like passing or the ability to effectively run an OFF. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective, and with him, we’d end up with another version of ISO Joe, ISO Nate.

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Ken, I do agree. But if we wanted to run the break like the Suns or something, wow he would be explosive. But I don’t want another iso-anybody unless Micheal Jordan comes back in his prime.

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Link to Dennis Scott interview. He talks about Shaq.

http://www.790thezone.com/instantreplay/Episodes.aspx?PID=1345

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O’Brien,

I agree! We need to trade for Tolliver & Watson from GS. Then sign Shaq and Barnes. Would the Warriors take Zaza in a S&T for Tolliver? Maybe give them the 2nd round draft pick from the Suns. Tolliver had a good season last year. He will probably require a 2-3M contract. Maybe they would take Evans and his expiring contract.

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Melvin,

Thanks for the link. It seems to shed light on Shaq’s thinking regarding his attitude toward coming to Atl. I am assuming, as suggested in the interview, that Dennis Scott and Shaq have been talking about Atl. It also seems as if ASG has little interest in Shaq or is being too cheap in their approach to signing Shaq.

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The Hawks don’t need to sign Shaq. First and foremost you build your team through the draft, and once again the Hawks GM Sund fails to draft players like Hassan Whiteside, Solomon Alabi or even Jerome Jordan. They overpaid to resign Joe Johnson and now they’re struggling to sign a center in the free agent market. This is why this current ownership will never come close to competing for a NBA Championship. This organization is absolutely pathetic.

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Shaq wants to start- Shaq wants more than the MLE- Enuff already can we move on,why put all our eggs is Shaqs fry’n pan when there are other options.
Mo Evan for Ryan Hollins
Sign Matt Barnes before he signs else where
Target the following BIGS…. Pryzbilla,Brad Miller,Tolliver

Bibby/ZAZA for Okafor ….Sign a veteran Pg to back up Teague- maybe R Alstron or Jason Williams

Teague/JWill
JJ/Jamal/JC2
Marvin/Barnes
Josh/Hollins/
Horford/Pryz or Tolliver

R Morris….I see the D League in his future or possibly Lithuania, hes a hack machine -its time to pull the plug.

Teague will be fine as long as he improves his shot. His speed and break down ability will help us alot more than bibby chucking away from deep.
Crawford has sum Steve Smith in his game -I dont know where he will get minutes if everyone stays but a good draft pick none the less.

Sy could become a good player for us in the next 2 years -good size/athletic/…Nice handles for a guy his size

Gladyr will be the next Cenk Akoyl- Good shooter but a Defensive Liability. I dont see him ever joining our team.

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I do like Richard Hendrix the rugged power forward from Alabama. I think Hendrix could add some much needed toughness to the Hawks bench along with Zaza.

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I MUS WRITE,
I agree with you 100% about Shaq, but unfortunately this organization has no clue on assessing player personnel.

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from draft express

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Afternoon, ladies & gents;
-> Slow down on JC2, he’s got a ways to go.
I like what LD said – *bring him along slowly. [paraphrase]
*Something tells me it has a different meaning. -(had woodson said it)-
**Everybody is makin’ fun o’ SG’s defense, well JC2’s aint much better!
Gotta learn to guard somebody. He plays defense just like JC1. [only worse]
***By the way- not even close to being as smooth as JC1. [by a long shot]
editors note: glad we got him!!!

-> I’m convinced we should make an effort to trade for Thabeet.
Right now he is undervalued. Wishfully, Memphis will be frustrated with him.
To the naked eye he is raw & undeveloped. (Marvin williams but worse)
Yet, his impact on the game is not what he does, it’s what he causes
around him due to his enormous size. Players must be aware of him
@ all times particularly on off. boards. + he’s a pretty good FT shooter.
Think Dikembe Mutombo. [overall game]

-> Teaguer, court vision???, where is that coming from?
# 1 he set up teammates all nite long, and no-one could hit a shot.
*that’s why I wanted Gladyr in with him = penetrate & kick.
# 2 he tried his darndest to run the “Princeton motion” last eve.
He would back out & set up the offense, showing leadership & poise.

-> Ol’ Pops looks like he’s got a future as a player who can defend 3 maybe 4 pos.

->. Gladyr can shoot so we better start teachin’ him to defend right now = [last night].
He’s no worse than Redick [was] so let’s get him ready sooner rather than later.

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Simpdawg – Co-Sign on Hendrix

bigdave – I read that last eve. Paid particular attn. to fg %. per DraftXpress.

I MUS – I gotta disagree on Gladyr / I don’t know if Cenk Akyol actually even exists.
He may just be a figment of our imagination. Has anyone ever really seen him?
Now this here Gladyr feller can relly shoot. I think ol’ LD can figure out a way to use ‘im.

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Melvin..

id like Craig Smith as well.. guy is a bruiser.

Grandad..

i disagree with you on Jordan’s def. i made sure to watch him in one on one situations staying in front of his man , b/c that would let us know how much we see of him this year. a possession in particular that i remember is when they tried to iso him on the block he held his own and i believe stripped the ball which lead to a break. he has active hands and anticipates well.. i did see him struggle reading and getting around screens set for shooters, to be expected in his 1st game.

all in all, he seemed to adjust to the NBA game well.. he worked well in space off ball.. spotting up.. i was impressed his game had a flow to it, a calmness.. did not appear to be forced..

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People simply do not watch the NBA, if they’re willing to trade for Emeka Okafor and that contract of his. Okafor was supposed to be the center that the Hornets needed, which is why they traded the injury prone Tyson Chandler for him. Well . . a little less than 2 years later, New Orleans is already willing to move him.

Why?

Because he has turned out to be a weaker presence both offensively and defensively than they ever dreamed. The dude isn’t garbage. But he isn’t the type of impact player in the middle for the money he is paid. Not even close actually. Last season, he had one of the worst Defensive PER’s amongst centers. But people would be willing to pay him 12+ million and more to come off the bench?

Mindboggling.

Hawk fans woud despise Okafor after 20 games here.

As for the Shaq issue, the ASG/Sund need to either act, or move on. As O’Brien said . . . throw an offer to him . . give him a few days to make a decision . . and if he hedges, announce publically that we’re moving on.

Shaq is the change of pace player that we need, when the game significantly slows down during the playoffs. A scrub like Pyzybilla doesn’t even come close to providing what Shaq will give us. People who think that “speed ball” will win in the playoffs, will be sadly mistaken. Defense, rebounding and half court efficiency is what wins in the playoffs. And Shaq would provide an upgrade in all 3 areas.

But this “saga” needs to be ended this week . . or we at least need to know that progress is being made one way or the other. If he doesn’t want to come here for the MLE, then there’s no reason to even keep the rumor going on. Just come out and say that we’re not interested in him anymore.

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Navigator,

about this:

“Chills”, are you kidding me? Do you have any professional integrity? Okay some of us know you’re talking about Josh Childress, but how many. You would do well on ESPN as they value the close personal relationship over professional reporting to.”

I’ll defend MC here. This is a blog, which is a MUCH DIFFERENT animal than a story fit to print in the newspaper. If MC called him “Chills” in a newspaper article WITHOUT explaining the nickname, that would be somewhat egregious, yes.

But this is a blog, man. We talkin’ ’bout a blog.

Not a newspaper, a blog.

(Apologies to Allen Iverson)

But seriously, don’t expect the same protocol for a blog as for an article written for print. Two totally different animals.

Keep it up, MC. You’re doing great.

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http://www.nba.com/hawks/feature/coach_conner_071210.html

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Macaroni Tony- You’re asking alot for a 2nd year PG with a questionable Jumper. 20/10 is alot for even experienced PG’s in this league There may be 5 or so capable of putting up those numbers and dont forget we have alot of guys who need shots JJ,Jamal,Marvin,Al etc……. 12/7 and hawking defense is what id like to see from teague.

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Grandad-Whass Up, what do u disagree with? The guy has range but his defense and footwork are suspect. Do u really want to see Gladyr guarding Wade or Kobe. We already have a Chucker with horrible defense and his name is Mike Bibby

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yall chk out Larry Drew’s practice video on hawks.com..liking him more and more..

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Northcyde -Okafor isnt woth his 12 mill we get that but- The guy is a suitable center capable of rebounding and good post D. He would be an upgrade over every C we have not named Horford. When you consider that BIbby and Marvin make 13 mill together I dont see a problem. I would rather get Pryz at 7 mill.

ASG- Now is the time to get our C, the Bobcats deal just got nixed by Jordan. Lets put up an offer for the guy -

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Well it seems as if Shaq’s options are shrinking. Miami is close to getting Big Z, and Dallas just traded for Tyson Chandler using the DUST chip. At first, I was on board 100 percent with bringing the Diesel on board, but now im having secong thoughts. At the same time though, we have to get a servicable back up big and he is the best option still out there. Shaq’s only option might be us, and he also might be ours too.

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Cunningham will the Hawks sign someone this week if its Shaq or Brad Miller i am down with that.

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Jeezuz Northcyde are you Shaqs agent. He wants to start and he wants 7-8 mill a year -he wont be doing either of those here NO Thanx Shaq will be 39 before next season ends give it up.
Just what we need an over the hill fading Super Star who thinks he’s still got it…. This is just screaming AI in Memphis last year

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Well Sund is asleep at the wheel again, if we were considering signing Shaq & doing S&Ts for Chills, why didn’t we throw our hat in the Al Jefferson S&T which would formed a formidable front court for yrs, & teams like Miami would never be able to match up with us down low. Utah has beat us to the punch for two future 1st round picks.

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Nice analysis. I feel like I was there.

Put $500 on #7 in roulette for me when you’re in the casino. You can take what I owe you out of my winnings and we’ll split the rest.

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I MUS
“what do u disagree with?”
That he actually exists.

“Chucker ”
Seriously, off the bench. + Much preferred over bibby.

No, he can’t guard Kobe & not many can.
Unless their named Battier.

He can foul Wade as good as anybody else in the NBA.

~editorial~ALERT~!!!~
I asked this on an earlier post:
Is Stern gonna divvy up the FT’s between D.Wade & LeClown
-OR-
or they gonna each get their allotment?
Throwing in Bosh’s FT’s means Myame’s games will last an Xtra *45 min ea.
*[@ least]
Since all their games will be on -espn- that 45 min to 1 hr. Xtra *commercial time.
*for -nike- of course.

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Sean Williams i like that idea i am not sold that Shaq wants to come to the Hawks i think he is using Atlanta to get more money to go to Dallas. Okafor would be a good fit !

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Xavier fan here. On the subject of Jordan Crawfords nickname, just Fyi, many X fans took to calling him Crawdaddy.

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Im starting to feel like JeJe LOL…… Jefferson,Chandler,Haywood…. Atleast make a Dam offer.
2 1st round pick are nothing for a guy with Jeffersons skill set on the blocks. The picks will be in the mid 20’s anyway.

I love Mark cuban no homo, Go getter in every sense of the word.

Look for our next signing to be in mid August….Dont be suprised to see Premo Brezek or sum other euro scrub on our bench. Once again its hard being an ATlanta sports fan…… Good day People.

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I read just a little while ago:
Shaq to Myame.
-rumor only-

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I think Jordan Crawford is star in the making if he used right he might are Kevin Durant.

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Calling Hawks management ” SOS ” where are you? If Sund doesn’t get out bed, and show up to work, we are gonna be left crumbs to try & improve this squad this off-season.

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Hey I know you can watch the games & see the stats leaders @NBA.COM, but does anyone know where you can pull the Summer League box scores up.

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“now starting off, we’re not switching.. i want the onus to be on the guy to guard his own guy”

-Professional Head Basketball Coach Larry Drew

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ReddJonn68

If you want box scores for all games try official sites:
Orl summer league
&
Vegas summer league

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SMH @ The Hawks management…SMGDH…

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Sund don’t give a flying donkey’s tail about what we want?
Dude is from that ‘Ole Joe” School of Thoughts.

Me, I’m just eatin’ Popcorn and watchin’ the picture show – seein’ all the Stars roll by! SMH.

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GStateBen,

There is a very good reason why Kwame only draws a vet’s minimum after being drafted #1 overall by the Wizards. The Hawks would be foolish to sign him.

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Why did Randolph Morris’ agent let him go to the SL? Horrible, just horrible move. If you go to the SL in your 4th year, YOU BETTER STAND OUT. Plain and simple.

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No to Thabeet. I thought we needed some beef in the middle, not a noodle.

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terrell

*Hypothetical*

But now that you mentioned it:
He would be a tremendous addition.
You cannot teach -such- length-!
Perfect compliment to J&A.
Never a star / always a compliment.
Noodle???, you say, 11 pts, 8 rebs, 2 blks,
went to the line 11 times & Mem was +12
when he was in the game.

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Dampier won’t STAY IN Charlotte. He’ll be released b/c that contract isn’t fully guaranteed. He’ll be back on the market. Then it is a question of where he wants to be. Dampier won’t sell as many tickets as Shaq, but he will be available for more games. I would not be shocked if he ends up with a playoff level team that offers him a 3 yr contract using the MLE.

@Grandad–I’ll look into what you’re talking about. Makes sense, but I’m not clear on why Larry Coon sez you need TPE when you decrease salary in a simultaneous trade that fits w/in the trade rules…i.e. the example of 4 mil for 5 mil fits regular trade rules.

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SEAN WILLIAMS-If we signed Shaq, and I assume you’re on board with that, assuming he pans out, how long would you say he would be able to produce? I’ll guarantee you that within a yr or 2, we’d be right back where we are now trying to secure a decent backup to stop DHoward. With a trade for Okafor, we’d be set at the center position for the next 4yrs at least. And if Horford was lost for the season, or for an extended period of time, we’d definitely have a starting caliber center that’s capable of effectively taking his place.

Would you really want to depend on Shaq as your starting center? Haven’t you been paying attention? The Suns and Cavaliers have already tried that, and both teams dumped his butt after only 1 yr, along with their HC’s.

Too many of you are obsessed with DHoward, and the idea we absolutely must have a center that can single handedly stop him. You continue to act like MWoodson and his total lack of a DEF strategy, inability to adjust, and unwillingness to seek help and/or a solution, is still our HC. We how have a HC with a clue, and he’s hired LConner, an assistant coach who’s speciality is DEF.

We can use a combination of factors to contain DHoward and the Magic. We can start with a sound DEF scheme and approach, instead of expecting to get the job done by using the same failed switching DEF, and the same DEF limited PG. We can combine the use of multiple centers, and a PG that actually plays DEF, pressures the ball and limits penetration.

To be honest, I’d take that approach over signing Shaq any day of the week.

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Reginald

I Wonder if the Cavs would part with -Anderson Varejao-!

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WHAT ABOUT MARVIN FOR JAMISON , I KNO JAMISON IS A PF BUT HE CAN SHOOT BETTER THEN SMITH AT THE 3 , AND HI SCONTRACT IS ABOUT 15 MIL AND MARVIN IS AT 7 BUT WITH THE TRADE ECXEPTION AND MAYBE BIBBY WE CAN GET HIM , AND SIGN SHAQ UP WRIGHT WITH THE MLE NOW THAT EVRYBODYS GONE BUT ATL FOR HIM TO GO TO .. ??????

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Grandad, I know your’re not looking at numbers when it comes to the SL. Numbers dont men jack in the SL. Marvin won the SL MVP for crying out loud. Thabeet is a project. If he we’rent, he would’nt have been sent to the D-league after being selected #3 overall. If we wont to win NOW, Thabeet is not the answer. Just my opinion of course .Heck, I like Deandre Jordan better than Thabeet.

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Shaq is running out of options, guess he better come down off that high horse and the realize he ain’t gonna get paid big bucks

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Why would the Cavs part with Verajo? They must be trying to lose their last couple of fans. lol!

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“The Bobcats are “very likely” to waive Dampier and his non-guaranteed $13 million salary for next season, a source tells Y!”

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

If this happens, the Hawks should get Dampier for the MLE. I’ll take him over Shaq right now, not because he’s more talented than Shaq, but because he’s the best of the rest and he’s emotionally available.

If Shaq doesn’t wanna come off the bench, should we try to convince him otherwise only to risk him changing his mind mid-season.

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i_am_soulstar … thats true , but shaq as we all know will bring in ticket sales and will make money and maybe a little more focus on atlanta in the east, i like dampier but from what i understand the bobcats are going to hold on to dampier for the posssibilty that they can use him in another trade, but if we can get shaq and get dampier signed on a vet minium or in a sign and trade some how for zaza so then we could get damp and shaq backen up horford

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T3AMDIM3
July 13th, 2010
7:10 pm

Do you have a link supporting that? I’m not saying Wojnarowski is always right, but he’s proved to be a pretty reliable source.

And Dampier is not what you would call a vet minimum player.

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Why as a hawk fan do you want sorry dampier ? lets get some GOOD players in here and stop talking about wash up player.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Shaq is 38 years old but is better than 90percent of the center in this league, PLUS HE SELL TICKETS AND WE NEED SOMTHING DIFFERENT IN THIS CITY, A CHANGE OF PACE 2 GET PEOPLE EXCITED.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks for the great update MC! Remember though, you gotta be gone, not out!

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lol Big Z is so lame…Last year he didnt want to go to another team because his “heart” is with the cavs but as soon as Lebron leaves he leaves with him smh

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Randolph Morris is garbage, he does not belong in the NBA, he was getting eaten alive in this summer league game

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“Too many of you are obsessed with DHoward, and the idea we absolutely must have a center that can single handedly stop him”

Just the facts maam.

Our center isnt stopping anyone in the post Dwight Included! Its really foolish to single out Dwight and say hes the only center we have to get past. Duh. We have not shut dont the 5 spot against any team, who has a legit center.

Stop trying to diminish out lack of defense in the post to Howard. We aren t shutting down anybody,hence we cant play a have court game with out maintaining the post.And before you try and blame it on Woodson rotation. Northcyde has already re-posted a stat that shows 60% of time shots are attempted against horford “IN THE POST” they score. That stat is among the highest in the league.

Just the Facts Ma am.

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Did Josh name his Shoe after T.S.(truth-serum)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBFKgxsTWxI

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for those of you bragging about teague’s .75 asst/TO ratio… consider Bibby an aging veteran is at 3.44

Perhaps teague might want to find another line of work…. rook.

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