Atlanta Hawks: Childress sign-and-trade in works (UPDATE: Hawks, Suns agree to trade)
The Hawks have agreed to a sign-and-trade that would send forward Josh Childress to Phoenix for a second-round pick and a trade exception, people with knowledge of the situation confirmed.
Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic reported Sunday night that the deal was “on the verge” of completion. Childress would sign with Phoenix for six years and at least $30 million, according to the report.
If Childress signs a deal for those terms, Atlanta’s trade exception would be worth half the amount of his first-year salary since he would become a base-year compensation player. The exception works as a sort of credit that would allow the Hawks to make a trade while over the salary cap without meeting the usual salary-matching requirement.
Atlanta drafted Childress with the No. 6 overall pick of the 2004 draft. He played four seasons with the Hawks before opting to sign a free-agent contract with Greek team Olympiakos in 2008. He has until Thursday to opt out of the final season of that three-year, $20 million deal.
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i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
11:26 am
As much as I hate Comcast (they are the devil), I’m glad they’re carrying ESPN 3 so I can catch the game tonight.
I MUS WRITE
July 12th, 2010
11:27 am
Why is everyone upset again? trade exception and a 2nd sounds about right to me. The guy clearly had beef with the management for not meeting his financial demands and had no plans on playing here. Lets not fool ourselves Chillz was a good role players but he wasnt worth 6-7 mill a year IMO. Im just glad he is off our books and we can finally move on.
The summer he went to Greece-Flip/Mo more than made up for his production and the team increased its win totals I dont see the problem here. Also I believe that Sund is in the process of getting us a Big with the draft day cash and the money from this TE………
OK- I dont care what the Minnesota fans say -until they win more than 30 games nobody gives a rats azz. I saw Hollins enought to know that he is a solid big off the bench-better than Joe Smith,Collins,and Morris. The guy gives you Athleticism,length and shotblocking while ZAZA wants to Fight and Flop – Hollins looked pretty good against us last year and im sure his numbers would improve if given steady minutes . Its hard to perform stuck behind Jefferson/LOve jus say’n.
If we add a solid big and a perimeter defender this is how I see the East next year
1.Orlando
2.Miami
3.Atlanta
4.Boston
5.Milwaukee
6.Chicago
7.Charollete
8.Cleveland
Bravo
July 12th, 2010
11:27 am
“I still find it hilarious how people think the Hawks will lose 50 – 60 games and have yet to lose a single player from a team that just won 53 games…..Atlanta fans…retarted if nothing else. lol”
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Cause other teams are getting waaay better, if you didn’t notice.
dap01
July 12th, 2010
11:29 am
KEN: With the trading of Childress and the added $2.5 million for the tax relief, what additional moves does this set up? Shaq for more the the $5.5 exception? What do you anticipate? Any other signing at the mininum like a back PG or wing player?
Any trades of vets like Mo, Bibby or Paculia?
Falcon Fever
July 12th, 2010
11:33 am
ARE YA’LL READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL……….ENUFF OF THIS HAWKS TRASH TALK………CHILDRESS FOR NOTHING ALMOST……DON’T UNDERSTAND THE TRADE EXCEPTION THING BUT I WANT A BIG MAN SO SCREW THE HAWKS RIGHT NOW………..ESPN IS PREDICTING THE FALCONS TAKE IT ALL THE WAY……..I’M READY FOR THE FIRST ONE VS PITT……….WE ALWAYS HAVE GREAT GAMES VS THE TERRIBLE TOWELS………GO # 2 ………..FORGET VICK AND I’M BLACK NOW WHAT LOL
JerryT
July 12th, 2010
11:34 am
How about Ilgauskas? Wouldn’t that be a good fit? He’s a little younger than Shaq, probably cheaper too. Big body though.
SteveW
July 12th, 2010
11:36 am
Bibby, Evans, a 1st pick next year and the trade exception to get Mo Williams. Cavs rebuilding.
Sign and trade RandMo, 2-2nd picks, Sy and Gladyr if needed to get Shaq
Sign Matt Barnes to the vet exception of 4.3m for 2 yrs.
Now you have a contender if everybody stays reasonably healthy.
Marcus
July 12th, 2010
11:37 am
just a guess …. but we may hold on to the trade exception (TPE?) until the trade deadline for the 2010-2011 season. Players on other teams that may be a good fit for us may be too expensive now (FA frenzy, eternal optimism for all 30 teams not wanting to rid of certain playars), but by All-Star break at least a few teams will come to the realization that they will be praying over ping-pong balls come the 2011 NBA Lottery. I say hold pat, Sund.
None of us are going to be satisfied. Some of us want action NOW, but will be pissed if we are foolhardy in using it on a player that doesn’t fit or work out.
SteveW
July 12th, 2010
11:40 am
I think as it stands now, the Bucks and Bulls are even are slightly better than the Hawks. Celts as well. Heat will probably be, depending on who else they sign. So Magic, Heat, Celts, Bulls and Bucks currently better than the Hawks. With the above moves, if we could pull it off, I see us at least equal to anybody in the East. And possibly a beast in the playoffs.
Edward M Howard
July 12th, 2010
11:45 am
I just wish I could understand this salary cap.
cp
July 12th, 2010
11:46 am
ESPN3.COM is showing the Hawks game tonight. They are also showing the one Thursday………Woodrow admitted what most on there speculated, he said he did not play Teague because he didn’t have a contract. It is what it is.
cp
July 12th, 2010
11:46 am
I mean what most on here speculated
ryan
July 12th, 2010
11:48 am
People stop crying they did it to go out and get a center and possibly another player we cleared cap space what more do you want stop the wining.
JerryT
July 12th, 2010
11:49 am
I don’t think we can afford a Big 4 starting center at this point. We can go with the guys we have against most teams, but for a few teams we need another big body inside. I just wish for someone a little younger. And what’s up with that guy Garrett Siler?
Na
July 12th, 2010
11:51 am
who cares
the hawks and basically the entire NBA is not worth watching anymore.
trade whoever you want
getting nothing for nothing seems fair
So hiring a new coach diid not impresses Childress to return to Atlanta
He must have thought the NBA was not worth playing in or playing for Atlantat was not wortth playing for
they gave him big money and he blew them off for Greece????
Let him stay in Greece
James
July 12th, 2010
11:53 am
2011 Eastern Conference Standings:
1. Miami
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Milwaukee
5. Chicago
6. Atlanta
7. Charlotte
8. New jersey
KevinM
July 12th, 2010
11:56 am
Please tell me Ken Strickland that you are happy with the roster so far retaining the top 9 from last year…please tell me that we just have to tweak to compete with Orlando.
Please Ken, the team was laughed out of Boston, toyed with by Cleveland every game we played them, and totally embarassed by Orlando. For that, Joe gets the max, Marvin gets a bonus (huh?) and Bibby and Zaza still have at least 2 more years on their contracts. You don’t see anything wrong with the development of this roster?
Keeping the core 9 is not the answer…they aren’t any players fighting for minutes….. they have alreday been established. We aren’t benching Marvin, and I will wait to see if Bibby does come off the bench. I am not convinced by any of this LD coach speak.
Jerry West
July 12th, 2010
11:59 am
Swing for the fences, folks:
Horford
Crawford
Bibby
Trade exception
or
(less likely NO takes this)
Smoove
Jamal
TE or Mo
for
CP3
Okafor
still got the MLE to go after a big, bi-annual for a James Jones type shooter, and the baby backcourt provides the bench scoring
i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
12:00 pm
Indiana wants guards and has made Danny Granger available.
I’d trade Jamal Crawford for Danny Granger.
It works on NBA Trade machine.
Sacrifice the spark off the bench, for a starting line-up of
PG – Jeff Teague
SG – Joe Johnson
SF – Danny Granger
PF – Josh Smith
C – Al Horford
Now that would make the Hawks a true beast in the East.
Josh
July 12th, 2010
12:01 pm
Does some people know that Shaq is an unrestricted free agent and we do not have to trade to get him? I just do not understand why some people keep saying we need to trade with Cleveland to get Shaq?
i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
12:02 pm
Probably have to toss a first round pick in there, but I’d do it for Granger.
Bobbito Heat
July 12th, 2010
12:03 pm
Ryan: “People need to wait and see before you judge this trade they did want to take on any cash and this was move to make room for Shaq and maybe someone else like Chris Paul.”
I couldn’t agree more… Go get Shaq (Mid-Level Exception), then trade Marvin, Teague, and next year’s 1st rounder for CP3! Financially, this works after the Childress move! And honestly, the Hornets would make this deal right? SO GO MAKE IT HAPPEN RICK!!!
Clyde
July 12th, 2010
12:04 pm
Bump Al Horford.
Realsquawk
July 12th, 2010
12:04 pm
I don’t even think it is worth three million. six years at three million would be five each year right there that is worth less than three, but i am going to assume he is getting the a certain percent of raises which means his first contract isn’t even five it might be three. so 1.5 million in trade exceptions.
yeah that sucks and I am going to say practically worthless unless Sund has some evil scheme planned
ryan
July 12th, 2010
12:06 pm
Hey na your idiot to say because Childress wants to go some were else not impressed if thats the case why does Shaq want to come here he knows Larry Drew.
jerrywest
July 12th, 2010
12:13 pm
Hey fake Jerry West,
You can’t add the TPE to any trade that includes any other player going out from the Hawks. TPE can be used only by itself.
♥Mz. Hawkdafied♥
July 12th, 2010
12:14 pm
Milledgeville DAWG
July 12th, 2010
12:14 pm
Did ever fix his teeth with all that money he has made?
MS Hawk Fan
July 12th, 2010
12:16 pm
To everyone that has posted here today, I’m sure you share in my feelings of not being surprised. I mean really…the Hawks signed Johnson to a max deal a week or so ago…did we actually expect them to grow a brain?
jerrywest
July 12th, 2010
12:20 pm
JJ cost us 200 mill for 11 years.
Without JJ we would have been forced to draft a guard in 2005 (DWill or Paul)
For JJ we traded away Diaw and draft picks that became Lopez and Rondo.
For JJ we didn’t draft Roy and got stuck with Shelden and now Bibby.
Now we lost Childress for NOTHING. Yes folks – it’s actually fool’s gold.
This franchise will always be a minor league NBA team.
i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
12:21 pm
Josh,
A sign and trade for Shaq is more advantageous than signing him outright if we only have to give up an expendable piece. If we sign and trade, then that means we still have the MLE left to offer another quality back-up or split among two back-ups.
O'Brien
July 12th, 2010
12:25 pm
Ken Strickland,
Your reasoning suggests that the ONLY problem last year was Woody. Although I think he was a big part of it, he wasn’t the only problem. So I don’t want to assume that just changing coaches will fix all our issues.
So rather than staying status quo and hope changing of head coach will fix all the issues, I would like to see us improve our depth, because we were overly reliant on Jamal off the bench. And what if Josh or Al gets hurt? What if Teague struggles?
what is a trade exception
July 12th, 2010
12:27 pm
What exactly is a trade exception??????? I dont get it!!!!!!
Kenny D
July 12th, 2010
12:30 pm
Very stupid Move and when the Hawks will ever learn how to draft.
We blew the chance to draft Chris Paul and Draft Williams (what a waste of a draft )
N.D.T.K.A.
July 12th, 2010
12:30 pm
Actually, it appears that Rick Sund is doing a pretty good job, based on what he is allowed to do within the ASG’s constraints. I wish we could have pawned off Bibby or Mo Evans on Phoenix though.
I was listening to 790thezone’s afternoon show yesterday coming back into town and the analyst stated the ASG are not spending any money on the Thrashers and trying to sell them off and want to focus on Hawks and paying J.J.’s huge contract. I would hope they would make more moves to upgrade Hawks roster and hopefully sooner rather than later. Although there are a lot of teams with tons of cap space overpaying free agents now. Would love to get Luke Ridnour and a decent big man.
Reid Adair
July 12th, 2010
12:36 pm
Well done, ASG. I suppose the Hawks don’t need anything in return for Josh Childress because you signed the mighty Joe Johnson to a max contract. He can do it all, right?
darrell starks
July 12th, 2010
12:36 pm
This is another retarted move by ASG and SUND, the hawks could have use chill for and bait to bring in a star player, but yet the hawks traded a starter who is better than marvin for a 2nd round pick wow!!!.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
macaroni tony
July 12th, 2010
12:37 pm
I’m not going to judge I will have to see the finish roster. I think that with the right BIG then we can have another very good season. We can not turn back the hands of time about draft picks that went bad. We have to move forward.
die hard Hawks fan
July 12th, 2010
12:37 pm
Joe Johnson is not worth $120 million – that $ could have be split between Josh Smith and Big Al and Jamal Crawford (all are awesome and definitely our big 3 – we still need a Center and a PG!) what is it with ASG obsession with Forwards?!?!
die hard Hawks fan
July 12th, 2010
12:38 pm
btw yall forget Josh Childress was a first round pick and he was picked before Josh Smith! That’s a wasted pick!
darrell starks
July 12th, 2010
12:39 pm
And why do people keep saying do a sign and trade for shaq, he is free agent and could sign with the hawks with out any trades.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
Bobbito Heat
July 12th, 2010
12:40 pm
Will you guys just be patient and let it play out a little bit… there’s obviously something else to all this! Just because the Lebron mess is over doesn’t mean free agency is over with. It’s just begun! Let it play out guys! Sund hasn’t disappointed us yet!
GeeMack
July 12th, 2010
12:41 pm
I MUS WRITE
Didn’t Boston play for a title last year. Yet you rank the Hawks ahead of Boston? That’s strange.
darrell starks
July 12th, 2010
12:42 pm
The hawks had 3 draft pick 27, 31, 56, and didn’t draft not 1 big man, but yet the hawks traded chill for nothing.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!
jerrywest
July 12th, 2010
12:43 pm
JJ cost us CP/Dwill, Roy, Rondo, Lopez, Diaw, Chillz and $200 mill for 11 years.
Future costs: Al Horford and Jamal Crawford.
Truth-Serum
July 12th, 2010
12:48 pm
darrell starks
Sund doesnt plan on getting a starting center. He is firmly convinced That hes you can win a championship with Horford as your center.
Outlook for Hawks future?
Time to clean out that garage!
Truth-Serum
July 12th, 2010
12:50 pm
Chill was a lottery pick(#6) and a scoring leader in the pac 10.
Reality is Nobody wants to play for Sund and this organization. They are not serious about competing and I hope it hits home to the ASG next year with sells going down!
Emir S.
July 12th, 2010
12:50 pm
Alright I just woke up, I’ve tried to understand what this Trade Exception is. Im more familiar with the “on court” things such as which players would improve the team and those kinds of things. Behind the scenes such as the paper work and contracts and things of that nature, I’m really not familiar with.
So just one question, How does this work in our favor?
Truth-Serum
July 12th, 2010
12:51 pm
GeeMack its not strange when you consider he has a motive in doing so.
darrell starks
July 12th, 2010
12:52 pm
Truth Serum well the hawks will not get better but worst, and untill the hawks make some solid move, continue 2 see them fall back in the pack.
GO HAWKS!!!!!