Atlanta Hawks: Childress sign-and-trade in works (UPDATE: Hawks, Suns agree to trade)
The Hawks have agreed to a sign-and-trade that would send forward Josh Childress to Phoenix for a second-round pick and a trade exception, people with knowledge of the situation confirmed.
Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic reported Sunday night that the deal was “on the verge” of completion. Childress would sign with Phoenix for six years and at least $30 million, according to the report.
If Childress signs a deal for those terms, Atlanta’s trade exception would be worth half the amount of his first-year salary since he would become a base-year compensation player. The exception works as a sort of credit that would allow the Hawks to make a trade while over the salary cap without meeting the usual salary-matching requirement.
Atlanta drafted Childress with the No. 6 overall pick of the 2004 draft. He played four seasons with the Hawks before opting to sign a free-agent contract with Greek team Olympiakos in 2008. He has until Thursday to opt out of the final season of that three-year, $20 million deal.
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Bob Weiss
July 12th, 2010
9:10 am
Thank god this Marvin for Mo Williams is just a rumor made up, If we trade Marvin, that would be the worst move ever..Mo Williams has done nothing in the playoffs…Woody’s Iso Joe,Jamal offense was not very friendly to Marvin,Josh and Al,….Marvin will have a breakout season with the Hawks.. or whoever he goes to..He is free from Woody…..The Hawks are a active legit 6ft10 or taller big man(Al is 6ft 8 and is a pf) and a 1st rate wing off the bench away from going deeper…I cant believe we let Chills go….4 nothing
GStateBen
July 12th, 2010
9:13 am
Another great move by Rick Sund (and whoever his cap person is). Childress had his feeling hurt because the Hawks weren’t going to pay him what he thought he was worth. We dump him, get up $5 million in trade exemption now to either spend now or when we load up mid-season without paying the luxury tax ($10 million salary potentially for half the season) and a 2nd round pick next season (to either trade or use).
For most (including these folks commenting) this looks like a nothing move but another smart move by Hawks management from my POV.
Source: Suns to make offer to Childress – ESPN.com » Daily Hosted News - Daily News Just for You
July 12th, 2010
9:15 am
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Luke Cage
July 12th, 2010
9:16 am
@Najeh Davenpoop: This is extremely unlikely, but would be amazing.
Would be a sweet deal
pd
July 12th, 2010
9:17 am
Ryan hollins is a good fit with the hawks. 7 footer athletic and he has a mean streak. A little foul prone but worth the look.
ryan
July 12th, 2010
9:18 am
People need to wait and see before you judge this trade they did want to take on any cash and this was move to make room for Shaq and maybe someone else like Chris Paul.
Luke Cage
July 12th, 2010
9:19 am
Peace out Childress, woulda like to see you continue in a Hawks uniform but since you don’t want to play for the team that reached to high to get you in the first place, take care.
Bored
July 12th, 2010
9:25 am
What is it about Josh Childress that brings out the raging salary nerd in everybody?
drmaryb
July 12th, 2010
9:28 am
Sip … Sip … Sippin’
I’m jut Sippin’ on my Cherry-Coke & Eatin’ Popcorn!
Waiting for the final episode. ;-0
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GStateBen
July 12th, 2010
9:37 am
Right now the Hawks have approx. $11 million to spend without going over the luxury tax threshold with this trade. Again, great work by Sund and company. Take a look at Brad Miller and Ronnie Brewer for depth.
SMH
July 12th, 2010
9:48 am
So, they messed up again! I would have kept Childress,gave away Mike Bibby and aquire another point guard from the market. Reason being they forgot that MIA is lurking behind them. Hawks have a team the lenghty and can switch on pick and rolls. duh!
Tom
July 12th, 2010
9:49 am
How about a center…you can’t tell me that no one is out there that could use Childress and will give us a center in return?
die hard Hawks fan
July 12th, 2010
9:49 am
are u kidding me about Marvin Williams whom we wasted a #2 pick on – we could have gotten Chris Paul for crying out loud!
Since 2004 Hawks only made 2 good picks in Josh Smith and Big Al Hortford…
our lineup could have been Josh Smith/CP3/Hortford/BRANDON ROY and Swift!
If i was a billionaire I would buy the Hawks for $100 million to evict the current owners and management and misery from Atlanta’s Phillips Arena!
Dont believe me – look at the picks that Hawks made since 2004… and u can tell me we should have won a championship or at least won a conference title!
Reality
July 12th, 2010
9:50 am
Same ol’ Hawks. Too many owners trying to save money to pad their pockets. Josh Smith and Al Horford are the ones who will suffer. I hope they pull a Lebron and get out of ATL so they can expirience how a real organization is run. Since the re-signing of Joe “No Show” Johnson, I can’t imagine myself going to another Hawks games as long as he is playing.
GO HEAT!!! Thanks to Rick Sund, or whatever his name is.
Progeny
July 12th, 2010
9:52 am
I am so sick of the word “core”
Paddy
July 12th, 2010
9:57 am
John……cap space is not worth that much if FA’s never consider Atlanta as a good place to play and win! And I don’t consider Shaq a FA. Just another aging superstar looking to get one last paycheck. Most retired GM’s, in any sport, will say that their worst decision as a manager was to sign someone elses aging superstar. The vast majority just never work out.
die hard Hawks fan
July 12th, 2010
9:57 am
can someone PLEASE tell me how i can get a job as GM? Cuz I know I could do a way better job than the Hawks current GM!
Astro Joe
July 12th, 2010
9:58 am
Let’s see how the next shoe falls. I assume that the $3M can be added to the contract of an out-going player to bring back someone whose salary fits into that combined box. Or said differently, we could trade Zaza’s $4.3M contract and bring back a $7.3M player because of the $3M trade exemption. If we use the trade exemption to bring back a player that is roughly $3M more valuable than the one we’re giving up, then that is palatable. But if we essentially trade Childress for a $3M player, that just seems plain stupid.
Wolverine
July 12th, 2010
10:00 am
THe Hawks are actually in a better place now than most people think. We have a really dynamic scorer in Jordan Crawford. If Teague lives up to expectations our backcourt of the future is set. But we live in the present now, and the Hawks will finalize the Shaq or Brad Miller deal by weeks end. The Marvin Williams and bibby for Tony Parker would be nice aswell and if you add shaq to that mix then Larry Drew better finish with 57+ wins.
This is a tough decision b/c Marvin Williams, Teague, CHildress, etc., all suffered under Woodson ISO offense. So we really dont know if players like Marvin can really tap into his real potential. So that is the dialogue / debate going on now. Sund hasnt really failed Hawks fans…he kept the team together at Woodson’s request and brought in Jamal Crawford. Now is the time to contend. We Need to get bigger, but we also need to get better/faster pg play.
drmaryb
July 12th, 2010
10:04 am
GM job search?
Stop blogging, learn the cap, know somebody who know somebody who’s got a car!
Oh yeah, earn a law degree or finance degree, since you will be dealing primarily with agents.
One more thing, get with Ron Artest Psychiatrist, because you will be dealing with some very interesting players. That should help you become a GM.
Section 303
July 12th, 2010
10:07 am
Najeh, that’s some great stuff. I learned a lot reading your posts. Thanks.
Like Michael said, the Hawks had no leverage in this Childress deal. All the Suns had to do was sign Chills to an offer sheet that the Hawks did not want to match. So, at least the Hawks came away with something.
And, really, Childress is a good player. He’s hardly worth getting all bent-out-of-shape about, though. He’s still Josh Childress. He can go to Greece for two years, make a ton of dough, and go play for the Suns. He can do what he wants. He will still be Josh Childress.
drmaryb
July 12th, 2010
10:12 am
Josh CHILD – ress.
A spoiled rotten CHILD who has his way? Starting to see a pattern developing?
Ahem ..Ahem .. Ala LeBron – et.al.
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i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
10:15 am
Apparently, Hawks are interested in Udonis Haslem. He’d be a great back-up PF. If we were to somehow sign-and-trade for Shaq rather than give him the MLE, then we could offer Haslem a part of the MLE.
That’d be a very good bench.
PG- Bibby
SG- Crawford
SF- Mo Evans
PF- Haslem
C- O’Neal
Who wouldn’t want to have Haslem on their team????
i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
10:18 am
But, the Mavs have offered him 3 years and the full MLE (5.8 million), so I’m just gonna forget I ever posted it.
i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
10:22 am
Does anyone find it slightly disrespectful that Shaq says he’d play for the Spurs for the MLE, but wants more than the MLE if he plays for the Hawks?
HawkKingBibby
July 12th, 2010
10:24 am
Great so we can only use the TPE to trade for a guy who makes about 3.6 mill or less and we get a 2nd round pick to draft Pape Sy’s brother next year. BRILLIANT !
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Ken Strickland
July 12th, 2010
10:31 am
First, we get constant complaints about Sund and the ASG not doing anything. And now that we’ve discovered they are actually doing something, we still get one complaint after another. I’m puzzled why anyone would complain about the Hawks returning the same 9 core players that won 53gms, finished 3rd in the East and made it to the 2nd rd of the playoffs.
Sund and the ASG have already made the biggest change that needed to be made when they hired new HC LDrew. We now have a HC that’s actually capable of helping both the team and all of its players development and improve. When opposing teams make adjustments, we now have the brain power and willingness to make counter adjustments, and actually make them during gms.
Anyone paying attention to interviews with Hawk players should know there’s an entirely new level of excitement and confidence among them, now that LDrew is our new HC. It’s certainly something that’s been missing the last few yrs. I’m wondering if the Hawks current moves are designed to give them the flexibility to do more than just sign Shaq.
I just don’t share this narrow obsession so many of you seem to have about us needing to sign someone like Shaq just to stop DHoward. Hell, didn’t Cleveland and Phoenix think and do the same thing, and how far did it get them? There has certainly been no shortage of teams that have had success against Orlando and DHoward without Shaq, or anyone else capable of defending him single handedly.
People, MWoodson is no longer our HC, which means we are no longer handicapped by a sutbborn single minded approach to getting things done. Therefore, we don’t have to focus on a single player that’s suppose to be capable of defending him. With new HC LDrew, we now have the luxury, and the ability, to use our superior speed, quickness, depth and athleticism, as well as STATEGY, as weapons to contain DHoward and defeat Orlando.
IT’S A NEW DAY HAWK FANS!!!
Benji
July 12th, 2010
10:33 am
Who cares what the Hawks do! We been sorry and will be for the next 10 years! Stop getting these play ground players
Brandon Owen
July 12th, 2010
10:38 am
The trade exception will be used to get Shaq from Cleveland. There was talk of a Marvin Williams and Josh Childress for Mo Williams and Shaq trade which would be awesome. Mo Williams would make it rain for us and thats exactly what we need, a better shooting, quicker, better defending version of Mike Bibby.
cp
July 12th, 2010
10:40 am
I read that Shaq has a meeting with the Heat this week. Im really hoping the Hawks make some move soon because right now its looking like another summer of picking up scrubs and saying they tried to acquire so and so. I say sign Ronnie Brewer and Kwame Brown. I know Kwame sucks offensively but he can rebound and he is a good post defender. He could body up a guy like Dwight which would allow us to stay on the Magic shooters. Kwame and Ronnie and call it a day….
Sautee
July 12th, 2010
10:41 am
ding!
Ken Strickland
July 12th, 2010
10:50 am
SOULSTAR-Shaq is willing to take less from the Spurs because they are his #1 preference, and he’s trying to make himself as appealing to them as possible. He also knows he has a very good chance of starting with them, or at least getting starter mins.
With the Hawks, he knows for certain he’ll be coming off the bench, and won’t get starter mins, since he’ll have to split time with Zaza. Therefore, he’s demanding more money from the Hawks for putting him in the position of having to do what he’s never had to do, and that’s be a backup.
BIG JIM
July 12th, 2010
10:56 am
I thought Childress had died or something! The Hawks did
waste a pick on that monstrosity. The best thing to happen
was him leaving. Just think how lame we would have been
while trying to start his ass, or give him minutes that went
to JCraw!
We’re won’t get full value for him.Period.
Take what we can get,the draft picks and the money.
Period.
Get Marvin Williams the hell out of town.Period.
Shaq comes to Atl as a reserve in the playoffs.Period.
Jordan Crawford will bring much needed pop off the
bench after Jamal. I’ve always liked Xavier players.
If they were in the ACC/SEC they be better known.
Lose Mo Evans,possibly ZaZa. They are both stiffs!!
We are not that far away folks.
Ezekiel
July 12th, 2010
10:59 am
This frees cap space so we can sign either Anthony Johnson or Tyronne Lue as our lockdown perimeter defenders.
Ken Strickland
July 12th, 2010
11:00 am
I can only imagine how awful and frustrating it must be for those who lack the intelligence, vocabulary and insight that would enable them to participate in an intelligent discussion and offer intelligent ideas and opinions.
Ex - Season Ticket Holder
July 12th, 2010
11:00 am
Is it too late for Joe Johnson to give back some of his money for the good of the team and aid in bringing in a “Big” (restructure contract). He wouldn’t miss 3-4 million per year on a six year mega-contract and it would help the organization. He cannot spend all the money he has already earned and will earn in one lifetime. Others have done it in the past. So he will make $100 milliion instead of $123 million – I don’t think he’ll miss a meal, be able to buy several mansions, several cars, leave plenty to his family, etc – come on JJ – give some money back. Think of it as a furlough
NC Braves Fan
July 12th, 2010
11:05 am
Why all the negativity? Doesn’t it seem premature to judge Sund’s offseason before we see how the roster shakes out first?
I agree that further changes need to happen after the playoff flameout in the Spring, but you would think we’re the Nets given the amount of vitriol that’s being thrown around. Relax folks – let’s see how the roster looks in a week or two and then we can judge.
Ken Strickland
July 12th, 2010
11:07 am
WOODSON 11-Didn’t JJ choose to resign and remain a Hawk, instead of demanding a sign and trade, which he certainly could have done? And if Shaq is willing to take less to play for another team, what leverage is he trying to generate with us? DUH!
SAM
July 12th, 2010
11:11 am
GOOD!!! he sucked anyway….he didn’t want to be here and he had a weak/stupid push/jumpshot.
Rufus1
July 12th, 2010
11:13 am
Great Job Rick Sund
The Hawks are in a better position to trade for and impact player(Nazr Mohammad, Desanga Diop or Biedrins)….When you sign one of those player, these fools will be eating CROW!!!!
I believe in you….Great Job Rick!!!!!
PS. We are not the same team as last year, are PG is different and THAT MEANS ALOT.
SAM
July 12th, 2010
11:16 am
let him go…he sucks anyway…he has one of the stupidest jumpshot mechanics in the history of the nba.
he is nothing but a garbageman and a soft one at that.
HAWKMAN
July 12th, 2010
11:21 am
STUPID ASSES, IF THE HAWKS WOULD HAVE DRAFTED CP3, WE WOULD HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO DRAFT AL
i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
11:22 am
Ken Strickland
July 12th, 2010
10:50 am
Appreciate your rationale, I’m seriously less offended now.
Daddyrich
July 12th, 2010
11:22 am
I cant believe someone wants us to pick up Richard Jefferson! Did you see him play last year?
SteveW
July 12th, 2010
11:24 am
Rick Sund, like Frank Wren, has almost been perfect since taking over the job. I’m not going to hold Seattle against Sund, it’s what he does with the Hawks that matter to me. Go Sund!
I like Josh Childress, and he is going to the perfect role in Phoenix, off the bench – 20-25 mpg. Will play great for 3 years or so, then flameout – his body is not an NBA body. If he were a starter, he might survive 2/3’s of a season playing JJ’s minutes.
Would do a Bibby, Evans, 1st pick trade for Mo Williams, but I don’t like the idea of giving up Marvin. He will be 24 this season – think, in the 2012-13 season, he will still only be 26 years old, Horford 26, Josh 27 and Teague 24. We have a solid, young nucleus – Hey, even ZaZa will only be 29 in ‘012-13. Stick with the plan – Get Mo and Shaq and we may win a title, esp. if we…
Sign Matt Barnes to the 4.3m 2 yr. deal you can give vets.
Give us Mo and Teague at Point
JJ and Jamal at SG
Marvin and Barnes at SF
and a frontcourt of Horford, Josh, Shaq, and Zaza and tell me why we can’t win a championship with that team?