Atlanta Hawks: Camp chatter
Emptying the notebook . . . .
Some observations and chatter after two open practice sessions at Philips Arena:
– The Hawks haven’t offered Shaq a contract yet. There’s still the open question of what kind of role he’s willing to accept on his new team. The Hawks also are said to be looking at Brad Miller, Ilgauskas, Kurt Thomas, Kwame Brown and Anthony Tolliver.
– Johan Petro was a possibility before he agreed with New Jersey on a three-year, $10 million deal. That should give you an ideal that it’s still a seller’s market for centers.
– L.D.’s summer plan for Teague:
“What I told him is basically I am going to turn him loose. I want him to be himself. I don’t want him to be concerned about making mistakes and missing shots because I have all the confidence in the world in his ability. He can break the defense down, he can get into the interior of the defense. He knows how to make plays. He is just one of the guys on our team with that breakdown ability. I want to allow him to be himself and play carefree and go out and have fun. No restrictions for him.”
– Teague will make his summer league debut but already seems hip to the difference between that and the real thing. “It is totally different when you play with guys who have been in the league a while. It makes the game a whole lot easier for you. But the summer league, it’s just going out there and showing what you can do. Show that you have the ability to run a team and play at this level.”
– He’s ready to be turned loose: “I think that’s the easiest way to play when you are with guys you are not familiar with. Just get up and down. Start getting stops and push it. The offense that we run, it is kind of complicated. You know guys are not going to remember it when they get in the game and start going one on one.”
– Teague on L.D.’s offense:
“I can’t really explain it. It’s kind of like a Princeton motion offense. Everybody is going to get shots, everybody is going to get touches. You can do everything out of it. You can get down-screens, pick-and-rolls. It is kind of a unique offense. It is perfect for our team. We’ve got a lot of guys who can handle the ball on our team and it gives them a chance to show what they can do. And you also get to move the ball. We didn’t get a lot of movement last year and that was something that hurt us. The offense makes it where that isolation thing is not there anymore unless you get it at the top of the key and the shot clock is winding down. Then you have some players who are really good in isolation like Joe. He’s going to add to the offense and have plays like that. But most of the time it is movement, back screens and cuts, posts for Smoove and Al and pick-and-rolls.”
– Pape Sy (pronounced “Pop See”) is getting positive early reviews. It seems he really did kind of come out of nowhere–he said he didn’t work out for any other teams, though Milwaukee had some interest.
– Pape said he played both guard positions in France. So how did a 6-7 French kid become a point guard? Credit his mother Fatim, whom Pape said coaches youth players in France. “When I was young I wasn’t really tall. [But] my dad is taller than me [so] my mom knows that I would be tall. So she [taught] me how to handle the ball and after that I grew.”
– Pape is legitimately 6-7 and quick with long arms. Those are the tools for a good defender and Pape also seems to have the tenacity for it. “He’s a good defender,” L.D. said. “Ask Jeff Teague. Took [the ball] from him. [Teague] got a little lackdasical with the ball and he just took it from him. He’s a gritty defender. He’s got good size, he’s got long arms and he’s got an aggression about him. You can’t be lax around him.”
– Chances are Pape and Sergiy Gladyr are headed back to their European teams next season, Le Havre in the French first division and Bàsquet Manresa of the Spanish ACB League respectively. Both players have a year left on their contracts. The Hawks could buy out their deals but they have no plans to do so. “Now is not the right time,” said Hawks assistant GM Dave Pendergraft. “We brought them over here to get experience. The game plan is for them to learn the system and get them some exposure to some NBA-level players.”
– Sergiy can really shoot it. “[Spain] is a perfect place for him,” Pendergraft said. “It is a good league, arguably the second-best league in the world, and he gets to play.”
– L.D. on Jordan Crawford (how’s JC2 for a nickname?): “This kid has speed, he has quickness, he can make shots. He does a great job reading the defense. I see him being a real good plus to us because the kid can score. He has that uncanny ability with scoring, whether out on the perimeter or getting to the basket. He finds ways to score. He seems to be a pretty clever basketball player. I am excited about him.”
– L.D. isn’t turning him loose like Teague, though. He wants Crawford to get used to his likely role with the Hawks, which means being a low-volume, high-efficiency scorer. “I know he was a big-time scorer in college and I don’t want to take away his aggressiveness,” Drew said. “But shot selection is a big key at this level. I will allow him to be himself but I will be letting him know if I think it’s a bad shot.”
– Here is what Kelvin Sampson, Crawford’s coach at IU, had to say on that topic when I talked to him for a Crawford story: “Sometimes talent can be a blessing and sometimes it can be something that’s tough to handle. Talented kids have a tendency to think they can do anything. The thing I tried to impress upon Jordan was shot selection. He thought they were all good shots. He would say, ‘Coach, I can make that.’ Well, that’s fine but 1 out of 10 is probably not good enough. Give me 8 out of 10 or at least 6 out of 10.”
– Crawford looked to be winded during the two practices that were open to media. That’s no surprise since L.D. put the players through some pretty intense workout sessions and it’s doubtful Crawford has gone this hard since March.
– It looks like RandMo, James Augustine, and Alade Aminu all will get a shot to make the roster. L.D. on RandMo coming out for summer league: “I thought it was a great gesture on his behalf. Some guys who have been in the league a few years, their pride won’t allow them to play in the summer league. But he sees it as an opportunity. I tip my hat to him for that. I am going to give him an opportunity to show what we can do.”
– The Hawks have been a surprisingly slow-paced team considering their stable of athletes. L.D. said he wants to change that. “I would, with that athletes we have,” he said. “We have got guys that can get up and down the floor. We have got big men that can handle the ball. We have go to rebound to do that. And if you [run] you have got to be smart, selective. You don’t want to go crazy with that.”
– Smoove stopped by Philips and watched some of the practice. What’s he been working on this summer? “I have been looking at some of my old tape. I am still studying what I need to work on. Back when I was playing and then to now, it looks a whole lot different. I always have room to grow. You will always be a student of the game as long as you play. There is always room for improvement.”
– Josh is on board with the plan to add a big. “To have somebody that can be down there and be strong and dominant, somebody that is going to rebound and finish around the bucket and catch the ball. Me and Al can take care of the rest. We could use a little more help, a little more depth. I think we do extremely well with a lot of the bigs in the league. We seem to struggle with guys like Dwight and . . . just pretty much Dwight. We need somebody who can help us with that if we have to face him in the playoffs again.”
– Like Shaq, for instance? “He definitely brings that maturity and the leadership. He definitely brings that experience we need. He has won titles. He’s been there in the postseason so he knows what it takes to win and I think he would be a good guy for the locker room.”
– Smoove on the Miami SuperFriends: “Those guys have to make it work. We have a group of guys that have been together for a long time and we know what each other likes to do. From that standpoint, I think we have the upside on them.”
– L.D. expects new lead assistant Lester Conner to help develop a defensive mentality for the Hawks. Said Conner: “They’ve won 50-plus games the last two years but when they get to the second round they kind of stumble. When you get to the second round, you’ve got to bring the toughness and energy out of guys to get to the next level. We want to pattern ourselves after the Celtics, the Orlando Magic. You’ve got to play defense. If they don’t buy into that, it’s going to be the same thing. Our job as a staff is to get them to buy into that.”
– Conner will coach the summer league entry while L.D. observes.
– I’m out, blog people. Hope all of that info whets your appetite for a minute. I will check the comments later but right now a brotha needs a breather.
MC
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HoosierHawk
July 11th, 2010
8:42 pm
@ Ernest You didn’t answer my question though. What proven veterans will put us over the top to become a championship team? Aside from Matt Barnes, Kurt Thomas, and maybe Shaq, I don’t really see many available guys helping us become championship caliber. And as far as late picks not helping championship caliber teams, we will wait until the season to see if Caracter and Ebanks do anything for the Lakers, but I bet they will.
northcyde
July 11th, 2010
8:48 pm
Mystikal . . . I answered your question last night. The salary cap is 58 million. The Luxury Tax line is 70 million.
Because we’re at 65 million, we’re over the Salary Cap. This means that we only have the MLE and possibly the Bi-Level exception to use.
You’re trying to add an extra 5 million, thinking that just because we’re under the Luxury Tax line, it means that we can spend 5 million more dollars. That’s not the case.
What most teams do, is try to stay under the Luxury Tax line. When you go over that line, a team has to play $1 for every $1 they’re over the Luxury Tax. So if we’re 2 million over the Luxury Tax, ownership would have to pay an extra $2 million to the league.
So forget that part where you’re saying that because we’re at 65 million, we have 5 million to spend. That is incorrect. We only have the MLE and the Bi-Level ( if we didn’t use the Bi-level last year on Joe Smith and Jason Collins ) to spend.
you can’t use the Bi-Level 2 years in a row.
Ken Strickland
July 11th, 2010
9:02 pm
We don’t have to concentrate on finding one player that can match up to DHoward. Usually, good DEF schemes and strategy is more effective. Boston used a 3 headed center combo of KPerkins, Davis and RWallace to work him over, plus a strategy to attack their pick and roll and keep JNelson out of the lane.
The Bobcats also used a 3 headed combo center of NMuhommed, TRatliff and TChandler, along with a strategy of attacking the basket to get him in foul trouble, and it certainly worked. We, on the other hand, tried to use AHorford to stop DHoward, and then JNelson, when he switched off. We did absolutely nothing to try and stop JNelson from penetrating and breaking down what little DEF we had.
Both Horford and Zaza had to be very careful not to be too aggressive against him, since they knew Woodson definitely didn’t want to play anyone else at center. With Teague, JJ, Horford, Smoove and Marvin all going after DHoward, he’ll end up in foul trouble eventually. And that’s when our superior talent and athleticism will take over.
Right now, Orlando is in a quandary over whether to resign JJ Redick, who just received a lucrative contract. They can’t seem to decide whether they want him to replace VCarter, who turned out to be a flop.
SAMUEL-remember how you were willing to concede them the title once they got Vince? You spent the entire off season praising his overall skills. Right now, Orlando is the beast of the East, but we can over take them, our at least finish a very close 2nd. Boston can’t match up with us and our fact breaking style, and neither Chicago or Miami will be able to play enough DEF to be a serious factor.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 11th, 2010
9:25 pm
Jordan Farmar is about to sign with the Nets for a 3-year deal.
i_am_soulstar
July 11th, 2010
9:29 pm
“Meanwhile, Childress is getting further impetus to leave Greece behind in his contract option year, as the Washington Wizards, New York Knicks, New Jersey Nets, Los Angeles Clippers, Golden State Warriors and Cleveland Cavaliers have all reportedly contacted the former Atlanta Hawk to jump the puddle.”
http://basketballbuzz.ca/international/olympiacos-pursues-five-seven-nba-teams-pursuing-josh-childress/forward/2321/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+basketballbuzzca%2Ftopstories+(BasketballBuzz.ca+-+Top+Stories)&utm_content=Twitter
HawkKingBibby
July 11th, 2010
9:36 pm
ESPN is reporting the Suns will make Chills an offer sheet that the Hawks have a week to match
i_am_soulstar
July 11th, 2010
9:39 pm
Guide to the Atlanta Hawks Summer League Roster
http://buzztap.com/link.jsp?id=1837785&cid=53
Najeh Davenpoop
July 11th, 2010
9:40 pm
Apparently Ramon Sessions, a popular player on this blog about this time last year, is on the trading block and Minnesota is trying to dump the remaining 3 years and $12 million on his contract. Not a bad deal for a backup point guard of his caliber, but a) he can’t shoot and b) the Wolves probably won’t be taking back long term contracts in return for him if they are trying to do a salary dump.
i_am_soulstar
July 11th, 2010
9:48 pm
*Does every public mention of the need for a big guy, a “true center,” or someone “bulky” cause Zaza Pachulia pain?
northcyde
July 11th, 2010
9:50 pm
LOL @ Ric Flair . . . still wrestling. Decent match between him and Jay Lethal. LOL . . Lethal made Ric tap out by using the Figure 4 on Ric. Lethal’s imitations of Randy Macho Man Savage and Ric Flair are great.
As for summer league, John Wall is doing his thing tonight. Solid game overall from him. Cassell really trying to coach up the Wiz.
Miami vs New Orleans in about 20 minutes.
newkid
July 11th, 2010
9:55 pm
With recent signings of Warrick and Frye, Phoenix is just over $51M in salaries for the upcoming season. Looks like Suns can make an offer a little north of $6M to Chills in the 1st year of a multiyear deal without exceeding the soft cap. Your move Sund.
northcyde
July 11th, 2010
9:55 pm
LOL . . and there’s no way Washington is trading McGee. He and Wall look real good together tonight. It’ll be interesting to see if Gilbert will let him run the Wiz, while he just be the designated gunner.
ryan
July 11th, 2010
10:00 pm
Hey Cunningham if the Suns offer Chilldress a contract will the Hawks match the offer or have a sign& trade with another team like Cleveland.
i_am_soulstar
July 11th, 2010
10:04 pm
Ryan,
If the Suns make an offer and Childress signs the offer sheet, the Hawks have to match the offer or they lose Childress for nothing.
northcyde
July 11th, 2010
10:10 pm
You let Chill walk if the Suns will give him a contract in which he can make 6 mill in that first year.
Dang. Something interesting I just saw on shamsports.com
3 of our players got bonuses this year.
Marvin – $550,000
Bibby – $200,000
Smoove – $100,000
These were supposedly “performance incentives”. Seeing that both Bibby and Marvin underperformed this year, I wonder if all three of these players didn’t have some sort of “50 win bonus clause” in their contract? Either that, or a “making the playoffs or 2nd round appearance” bonus
Interesting to see which players made money and lost money
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478)
July 11th, 2010
10:21 pm
I’ve said all along that with an offense that involves alot of movement and cutting to the basket instantly makes us a better team, even if we kept the same roster. It allows us to to take advantage of our athleticism. Instead of Josh Smith catching the ball out by the 3 pt line and fumbling the ball trying to dribble or Marvin doing the same except trippin over himself….you can have them cutting to the hoop
OK
July 11th, 2010
10:50 pm
We simply can’t keep mike Bibby. How many comebacks have we lost at the hands of LeBron. How many times has Wade brought his team back in the regular season. These guys are good defenders and if you make a mistake they will make you pay.
We all know that when Bibby gets pressured he picks up his dribble leaving him in a terrible position. Then he compounds the probem by throwing weak over-the-top passes that get picked off. After watching John Wall tonight, the decision is clear. HE MUST GO. We need a real floor general if we’re going to have a shot at beating Miami even ONCE this regular season. I’m just being real man. If we want to win a title, we better pray that Miami goes through Orlando and Boston first for us to have a shot.
If Sund is serious about us winning a title then I want to see some good moves. Pick up Shaq get Ryan Hollins from Minnesota. Trade Mo Evans for a real SMALL FORWARD to either START or BACK UP MARVIN.
Question! Can Bibby keep up with Jordan Farmar? No? How ’bout Will Bynum? Jerret Jack? Nate Robinson? Bobby Brown? Earl Watson? C.J Watson? LUKE RIDNOUR???? NO!!!!
THEN WHY IN THE NAME OF MY HEAVENlY FATHER SHOULD HE EVEN BE ALLOWED TO COME OFF OUR BENCH????!!!! HE IS USELESS!!!! SO IS MO EVANS!!!!
OVERRATED!!! OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!
NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE BENCH….PLEASE RICK I’M BEGGIN’ YA. IF YOU WANT ME TO HAVE AN OUNCE OF RESPECT FOR YOU, YOU WILL GET RID OF THESE MONEY STEALING CLOWNS. THEY ARE NOT WORTH THEIR PAYCHEKS. WESLY MATTHEWS JUST GOT 5YRS 34MILL FROM THE BLAZERS. NOW THAT KID WAS WORTH EVERY BIT OF THAT UNLIKE MO EVANS.
Trenton
July 11th, 2010
10:54 pm
lol @ Northcyde
“LOL . . and there’s no way Washington is trading McGee. He and Wall look real good together tonight. It’ll be interesting to see if Gilbert will let him run the Wiz, while he just be the designated gunner.”
Maybe they will move him over to the SHOOTING guard position. LMAO.
OK
July 11th, 2010
11:00 pm
…Ramon Sessions Sucks and so does Al Harrington. I’m just telling the truth.
As much as Duck gets on my nerves sometimes, we simply cannot afford to move him just yet. He’s a BIG SF. Good for guys like Carmelo and LeBron not to mention he has a good FT stroke and a “clumbsy” knack for getting to the line. I really want to see how he performs in LD’s offense. I think it weill help him a lot. he needas a legit backupt though.
JeJe
July 11th, 2010
11:07 pm
LOL @ OK.
AMEN, MY BROTHER. GAWDDAMN I FEEL LIKE YOU AND I ARE THE SAME PERSON – NO HOMO. LOL
BIBBY CAN’T EVEN GUARD ILGAUASKAS OFF THE DRIBBLE AT HALF COURT
JeJe
July 11th, 2010
11:08 pm
THE THING WITH DUCK IS HE ACTUALLY CAN SCORE 17 PPG IN THIS LEAGUE BUT HE DOESN’T GET MANY SHOTS. HE HAS ATHLETICISM, EVEN THOUGH HIS 3 POINTER HAS WORSENED. THE GUY CAN SCORE POINTS IN THIS LEAGUE AND PLAY OKAY DEFENSE. BUT IF U TRADE HIM HE FINALLY COULD BURST THROUGH THIS BUBBLE (IF HE CARES LOL).
HANG ONTO DUCK IF U MUST. THE REAL MUST IS TO GET RID OF MINIME MIDGET BIBBY
KevinM
July 11th, 2010
11:10 pm
Al Harrington, all shooter, nothing else. Have you watched his game since he was a Hawk? We haven’t missed him one bit.
Chills – match that Suns offer and get a deal done with a 3rd party.
If I was out there looking for a PG, I am trying hard to go after Collison, but in saying that, I still think Teague deservers a legit shot.
And yes, for this team’s sake, move Bibby. Can Mario West possibly be a defensive presence for us?
Najeh Davenpoop
July 11th, 2010
11:17 pm
This article says Childress already has signed an offer sheet with the Suns and is on the verge of being traded there for a 2nd round pick.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 11th, 2010
11:21 pm
Despite the Suns being over the cap, they can take on Childress’ salary without giving up equal salary to the Hawks because they have the trade exception acquired from the Knicks in the Amare Stoudemire sign-and-trade.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 11th, 2010
11:24 pm
Childress gets 5 years and $34 million from Phoenix.
Pretty reasonable deal, considering Travis Outlaw got more and Marvin Williams is getting more.
OK
July 11th, 2010
11:28 pm
JeJe, Amen!
KevinM, I like Mario, If we have space at the 15th spot when the dust clears then I say we keep him.
Najeh, I just glad this is over! Does this reuce our cap spendings to 60mill in commited salary now?
HawkKingBibby
July 11th, 2010
11:28 pm
Didnt it say 5 years 30 mil, thats 6 mil a year. WHY IN THE HELL WOULDNT the Hawks match that or hold out for something MUCH BETTER THAN A 2ND ROUNDER. THERE FOOLS IF THEY DO THIS.
OK
July 11th, 2010
11:29 pm
Now we can get moving RIGHT RICK! You got this handled and we’ll give Childress the buziness in the regular season. Can we please sign Shaq already?
Najeh Davenpoop
July 11th, 2010
11:29 pm
The Hawks are paying Marvin more than the Suns will be paying Childress.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 11th, 2010
11:33 pm
I would have preferred that they kept Childress and traded Marvin for a 2nd rounder, but it is what it is. Hopefully Marvin gets a little more 3-point shooting and man to man defense and a little less African-American Studies in his life this summer.
(Disclaimer: not a racist comment, that is his college major.)
OK
July 11th, 2010
11:34 pm
Unfortunatley, To this day, Marvin STILL has more potentian/upsidde thant Childress so i’m not really complaining about the 1.5mill difference in their salaries.
Adair
July 11th, 2010
11:36 pm
Najeh, which black athlete’s college major ISN’T African-American Studies?
OK
July 11th, 2010
11:42 pm
Najeh, lol I AGREE! and I hope he’s training with ANYBODY other than Sean “Hamburger helper” May.
SWAT Native
July 11th, 2010
11:46 pm
Now we get to watch Chill blow up. I always thought he was a western conference style player, and he’s perfect for the Suns. And now, it looks like they get Hedo, too.
MannyT
July 11th, 2010
11:49 pm
So the Hawks will turn the rights to Chills into Pape Sy 2011 or 2012. I guess this is one of the impacts of Joe getting the max. Not hating, but I would think that we could get more for Chills than a 2nd round pick from a perennial playoff team.
HawkKingBibby
July 11th, 2010
11:50 pm
This is one rumor I PRAY MC comes on here and SAYS IS BULLLLSHHHHHHH…… I guess we can use the TE to get Shaq but it still hurts.
northcyde
July 11th, 2010
11:53 pm
Congrats to Chill for finally getting the type of deal he was looking for. He’ll fit in well in Phoenix.
Glad to get this all over with.
Now it’s time to get down to business. Go get ShaqLanta.
Justin
July 11th, 2010
11:54 pm
Wow, a future second round pick. We’ve shown we do absolutely nothing but waste 2nd round picks anyway. Why did the Hawks even do a sign-and-trade? The Hawks are committed to winning and loading up their roster, but the only free agent that they can make an offer to this summer not named Joe Johnson walks for 6 years/ $34 mil. That’s how much Joe will be make the last year and a half of his contract when he’s 35 years old.
I can’t help but think that if they had not overpaid for JJ, they would have had money to match the offer for Chillz. Now JJ has the biggest contract in the NBA- bigger than Wade’s or LeBron’s. And a quality restricted free agent walks for 6 years/ 30+ mil.
What a disappointment.
UGA
July 11th, 2010
11:57 pm
Barbosa is going to Toronto for Hedo as well.
there has to be something else to this, Phoenix has too many forwards………..Chill, Hill, Dudley, Turk, Frye and Warrick and Earl Clark
Justin
July 11th, 2010
11:58 pm
OK, I’m giving the Hawks the benefit of the doubt. I understand that the sign and trade gives us a 5-6 million dollar trade exception, meaning that we can use it on any free agent this summer. I know the Hawks must have something else in mind to do with that trade exception. Because if they are gonna shell out $124 mil. for JJ and say that they want to be contenders, they have to make use of that opportunity.
We’ll see.
UGA
July 12th, 2010
12:00 am
Suns will send part of Stoudemire trade exception to Atlanta to make deal work with Childress.
5-6 million exception, whatever this means
tckr83
July 12th, 2010
12:00 am
Talking with a buddy that wants the Hawks to trade JJ as of yesterday… Told him the Hawks weren’t able to do so because JJ signed a contract to play with the Hawks and not a sign-n-trade. Hawks couldn’t trade him until 3 months after he signed the contract or Dec. 15th, whichever is later, per my understanding of NBA contracts.
Anyone have a final answer on this one?
OK
July 12th, 2010
12:00 am
GIVE US DUDLEY NOW!!!!!!! PHX!!!!!
JeJe
July 12th, 2010
12:00 am
Trade Marvin for a 2nd rounder? LOL a 11 ppg career player for a 2nd rounder (Salim/Solo)??? Thank God you aren’t GM
Najeh Davenpoop
July 12th, 2010
12:04 am
“Suns will send part of Stoudemire trade exception to Atlanta to make deal work with Childress.
5-6 million exception, whatever this means”
It means that even though the Hawks are now over the cap, they can take back $6 million more in salary than they send away. Without the exception, they can only take back roughly the same amount of salary that they send away.
Jerry West
July 12th, 2010
12:05 am
In addition to the 2nd rounder, don’t the Hawks also get a trade exception?
Najeh Davenpoop
July 12th, 2010
12:05 am
In other words, they could for example trade Marvin and his $7 million contract for a player getting paid $13 million.
OK
July 12th, 2010
12:06 am
Justin, There has to be something else to this, I agree.
WHERE OH WHERE IS MC????
i_am_soulstar
July 12th, 2010
12:06 am
Suns will send part of Stoudemire trade exception to Atlanta to make deal work with Childress. 27 minutes ago via web
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
Najeh Davenpoop
July 12th, 2010
12:06 am
“Trade Marvin for a 2nd rounder? LOL a 11 ppg career player for a 2nd rounder (Salim/Solo)??? Thank God you aren’t GM”
Our actual GM just traded an 11 ppg scorer for a 2nd rounder. My point is, if we were going to trade a 11 ppg scoring SF for a 2nd rounder, I’d rather it be Marvin than Childress.