Atlanta Hawks: Vegas summer league roster set
Former lottery pick Luke Jackson makes Atlanta's summer roster.
Finally, after much delay, the Hawks announced their summer-league roster today. The idea was to put together a strong group to benefit Teague’s development. The Hawks ended up with five guys other than Teague with NBA experience, including RandMo.
The others are Luke Jackson (No. 10 overall pick by Cleveland in 2004 draft, 73 games played); Jermareo Davidson (52 games played with stops in Charlotte and Golden State); James Augustine (27 games played with Orlando), and Trey Gilder (two games with Memphis).
Teague will be joined fellow Hawks draft picks Jordan Crawford, Pape Sy and Sergiy Gladyr. The Hawks open play in Las Vegas on Monday.
MC
2010 Hawks Summer League Roster
Alade Aminu, F, 6-10, Georgia Tech (R)
James Augustine, F, 6-10, Illinois (2)
Jordan Crawford, G , 6-4, Xavier (R)
Jermareo Davidson , F, 6-10, Alabama (2)
Trey Gilder, F, 6-9, Northwestern State (1)
Sergiy Gladyr, G, 6-5, Ukraine (R)
Richard Hendrix, F, 6-9, Alabama (R)
Luke Jackson, F/G, 6-7, Oregon (4)
Landon Milbourne, F, 6-7, Maryland (R)
Randolph Morris, C, 6-11, Kentucky (4)
Pape Sy, G, 6-6, France (R)
Jeff Teague , G, 6-2 Wake Forest (1)
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207 comments Add your comment
LC
July 8th, 2010
2:38 pm
First. Glad to see Gladyr and my main man Pape Sy on there.
DevilInLaw
July 8th, 2010
2:42 pm
I’ve got $5 that Landon Milbourne outperforms Pape Sy in Vegas.
I Heart Atlanta
July 8th, 2010
2:46 pm
Crawford says on hoopsworld they plan and expect to go undefeated.
Ernest
July 8th, 2010
2:47 pm
With this roster, will Pape and Jordan play the point when Teague comes out? One thing to keep in mind, summer league games are mostly for guards since they handle the ball most of the time. I wouldn’t expect much from big man play during this time.
ZAza Pachulia
July 8th, 2010
2:48 pm
where’s Garret Siler? we definatlely will need him to help me out in the post.
Astro Joe
July 8th, 2010
2:49 pm
Who’s coaching the team? Drew or Conner?
Volman
July 8th, 2010
2:50 pm
Garret Siler is with the Nets.
bigdave
July 8th, 2010
2:54 pm
lol.. Jermareo getting a shot to come home..
good luck..
Jermaine B
July 8th, 2010
2:56 pm
The hawks are so stupid why give joe all that money and and he could have taken less money he knows he is not worth that much at all more like 6yrs 80 million we coluld haveuse some of that money to get better players
Jermaine B
July 8th, 2010
2:58 pm
get rid of marvin because he can’t play defense. get rid of josh smith he can’t shoot and mike bibby he is not the player he was 4yrs ago
Mr. Phil
July 8th, 2010
3:01 pm
And your winner in the late-and-redundant-unrelated-comment category
JERMAINE B!
mark
July 8th, 2010
3:02 pm
stop hating, if someone offered you 119millions. i can hear you say, no that’s alright just give me 80millions. yeah right. clown
Mr. Phil
July 8th, 2010
3:02 pm
Wow. Cutting edge commentary that really adds something to the discussion.
Next, why don’t you say let’s move Al Horford to the 4.
Tony from Stone Mountain
July 8th, 2010
3:04 pm
I’m glad to see that Randolph Morris wants to work on improving his game and learning the new offense.
Mr. Phil
July 8th, 2010
3:07 pm
@Tony from Stone Mountain
Morris is trying to get a job for next season. He will show up for whatever he is told to show up for. Probably willing to wear a clown suit and do birthday parties for the coaches kids at this point.
I Heart Atlanta
July 8th, 2010
3:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MMIER8qjgE&hd=1
yall have to watch this
Volman
July 8th, 2010
3:09 pm
If we didn’t offer Joe the money, he would have been in New York.
I don’t know what goes on in some of these IDIOTS minds.. Seriously!
ICECOLD
July 8th, 2010
3:09 pm
this is a pretty good summer league roster.. and im glad it is based on the developement of jeff teague.. i jus hope they are not tryin to fill out the rest of their roster with a few of these players though.. i hope jordan crawford and jeff teague shine to a point where we know jeff can start, and we know that jordan crawford can contribute… i also will like too see what pape sye is good at.. i hope those three make the team.. so that would be 11 roster spots full.. two more would be for a pure defender and for somebody that is a true big men!!!
ummmmmm.. where is mario west on here? what is he going to do.. and are any of the summer league games gon be on tv or at least highlights.. detailed highlights,., really wanna watch em play
khao$
July 8th, 2010
3:10 pm
MC, when does JJ’s dreadful max deal become official?
ICECOLD
July 8th, 2010
3:12 pm
and randolph morris.. he is good enough to be the third back up for center.. i actually like him…
where is othelo hunter..
and that other big center from savana that was really being talked about to be on the hawks
BigTimeTECHFan
July 8th, 2010
3:12 pm
Randolph Morris – He’s like a 10 year vet, still playing summer league. If his game has not developed by now I don’t think it’s going to happen.
01HAWK
July 8th, 2010
3:12 pm
1. Jeff Teague is another ACIE LAW
2. Davidson is better than Randolph Morris. Well that is not saying alot. How does Morris even stay in the league ?
Mr. Phil
July 8th, 2010
3:13 pm
@I Heart
wow. just wow.
ICECOLD
July 8th, 2010
3:14 pm
if dirk can take 80 million for five years.. joe should take 90 million for 6 years.. if he doesnt win a title or we cant add another good player cuz we cant afford it.. then it will be his fault for 6 years… pressure pressure … lol
fire woody
Michael Cunningham
July 8th, 2010
3:14 pm
@AJ: still not sure on the coach. i’ve avoided reporting Conner is on staff because i keep hearing it’s not for certain.
Michael Cunningham
July 8th, 2010
3:19 pm
@Icecold: looks like none of Hawks games are on NBATV, but you can sign up for a Web broadband package.
http://www.nba.com/news/features/2010.summer.league.schedule/
STEEL (Formerly VenomSpitter)
July 8th, 2010
3:20 pm
Jeff Teague is better than Acie Law lol
Michael Cunningham
July 8th, 2010
3:20 pm
@kahos: JJ’s deal is official once he signs it. he can do so starting today but no word if he has yet.
BigTimeTECHFan
July 8th, 2010
3:23 pm
I got inside scoop – LeBron going to LA Clippers……
Section 303
July 8th, 2010
3:25 pm
Gladyr is the player I am most interested in watching. Curious if this kid can contribute.
Hawks probably have one of the most interesting summer league teams to follow. You have Teague trying to show he can be given the keys to run the team. You get to see Crawford, the 1st round pick. You have Gladyr, who not many know about. Plus, since there are roster spots available, some of these guys have a legit shot at making the team. Luke Jackson, in particular.
Looking forward to watching. I’m out of town all next week, but have already set my DVR to record the Hawks games.
BigTimeTECHFan
July 8th, 2010
3:27 pm
Crawford will be MVP
STEEL (Formerly VenomSpitter)
July 8th, 2010
3:27 pm
With Lebron possibly going to miami. We cannot trade Josh.
honest_abe
July 8th, 2010
3:35 pm
Damn! If only they handed out championships for the summer leagues, then at least we could say won something..
i_am_soulstar
July 8th, 2010
3:36 pm
this’ll be fun
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
3:39 pm
Who cares if Lebron goes to Miami they still couldn’t beat the Lakers or the Celtics. And the Hawks will even match up pretty good with them if they start caring on defense. Lebron going to Miami still doesn’t garuntee a ring.
Astro Joe
July 8th, 2010
3:40 pm
Teague and Crawford (I think) are the same age. It will be interesting to see if one is noticeably more “NBA ready” than the other. Teague clearly has an advantage, having practiced against NBA players for 12 months. But I won’t be surprised if Jordan appears to be the one who “gets it” in terms of his total game.
i_am_soulstar
July 8th, 2010
3:40 pm
Garrett SIler is playing for the Nets’ summer league team
BigCaliDawg
July 8th, 2010
3:41 pm
Sometimes my left knee gets to feelin’ funny when I’ve been sittin down a while.
Toasted french bread with fresh tomatoes, mozzarella, basil, and salami tastes good. (I’m eatin’ it now)
I have know idea ’bout those 2 brothas from Baba. They any good?
Volman
July 8th, 2010
3:41 pm
We have a really good summer league team.
Feed Ranolph the ball at the post!!!! Haha!
I can’t wait to see what Rook can do!
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
3:42 pm
I use to didn’t care about summer leage b-ball but this year i am interested. Go Hawks!
The Truth
July 8th, 2010
3:44 pm
What is it with these Hawks? They can’t even find enough centers for the summer league. Don’t we need a backup? We all know what RandMo game is all about. Can’t they find at another center to evaluate? Do they have a lovefest with forwards or something? I’m counting 7 out of the 12 players are forwards. I am starting to believe that failures of acquiring a quality center is more than a coincidence.
niremetal
July 8th, 2010
3:45 pm
Surprised that Akyol isn’t on the roster. He had a good season over in Italy.
Melvin
July 8th, 2010
3:45 pm
No backup PG? We couldn’t bring over Cenky(misp) to play in summer league? Hopefully Teague want get hurt playing the entire summer league…
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
3:47 pm
BigCaliDog
I bet you are 5′1 and 342 and shaped like a little deep freezer. And that tingle in your knee is letting you know you got the sugar aka diabetes. Get your fat butt up and jog around the house 5 times Grimmis!
Melvin
July 8th, 2010
3:48 pm
James Augustine has looked impressive in Orlando Summer League games this week…
kwooden1
July 8th, 2010
3:51 pm
As a Maryland guy and glad to see Landon get a chance to get some NBA exposure. He’s a tough guy and works hard.
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
3:51 pm
342 pounds
MsDee
July 8th, 2010
3:57 pm
Yeah MC,
1 bit of info we have all been waiting on..the summer league roster..now if we could only now find out what Larry Drew’s coaching staff will look like, then we will be finally on top of things!!
BigCaliDawg
July 8th, 2010
3:59 pm
Dang. Why you gotta be like that. I just got a lotta homegrown, that’s all. Sheesh.
Besides……both are wrong, I’m 5′ 11″ 250 lbs.
It would appear as if our greatest investment is in #1 Teague, #2 Crawford, #3 Luke Jackson, and #4 Pape.
I do feel bad for Randolph Morris, but I really wish that he and Collins would get up out.
You look at some rosters (like the Celtics) and with the exception on Sheldon, they are ballers from 1-12.
We ain’t like that……
Marcus
July 8th, 2010
4:01 pm
dang … I was hoping we would be on NBA TV. Mercy, we have more guards than Buckingham Palace.
Sara
July 8th, 2010
4:11 pm
When are the Hawks going to introduce Jordan Crawford?
PD
July 8th, 2010
4:13 pm
I would take Matt Barnes over Outlaw. Outlaw does not stay healthy and Barnes plays better defense
PD
July 8th, 2010
4:16 pm
Morris better be in the summer league and show his tail off and get in the big rotation for Atlanta. Woody never gave this guy real minutes I think he has skills and may be the Hawks big of the future. Out on limb for real but that’s my gut feeling about Morris I think he is good enough to play next season.
BigCaliDawg
July 8th, 2010
4:20 pm
Did y’all see how much Boozer re-signed for? We got RIPPED!
We’re getting grilled by sports radio right now. It fits into that “Don’t hate the player, hate the game thing.” Don’t get mad at JJ, get mad at Sund and ASG. (JJ is still a tool, though).
It’s one thing to be cheap, but then to be cheap and stupid. That equals a string like the Braves had. A middlin’ team that makes the playoffs every year and then exits very quickly and quietly. Shame…
I’d take Boozer over JJ any day. We could even take the extra cash and sign another player.
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
4:22 pm
About time. I am tired of watching the Orlando games.
I want to see our guys compete.
ReddJonn68
July 8th, 2010
4:23 pm
The Hawks need to turn the reigns over to Teague here the reason why. Do you guys remember what Brandon Jennings averaged over in Italy against sub-par competition 5.5 ppg- 2.2 apg- 1.6 rpg-1.5 spg. But Scott Skiles threw him to the sharks anyway, because he recognized talent. In limited action, Teague still averag 3.2 ppg- 1.7 apg- 1 rpg- .5 spg playing just 10 min a gm against real NBA players. Hawks fans keep yelling for CP3 but did you know CP3 ( who has played many a pickup game against Teague) has stated he is the be scorer he has ever went up against. Let Jeff do for us this year what Brandon did for the Bucks. Provide us with another decent scoring option. What can it hurt, other than Bibby’s ego.
truthspitter
July 8th, 2010
4:24 pm
Damion James a guy that we needed to be the backup SF and eventually the starting SF, who has true SF size, the guy that we traded for a undersized SG in Jordan Crawford that will not see the floor this year is tearing up summer league so-far. Damion James averaging 20+ pts in summer league through 3 games. The Hawks blow it again I think, but will wait to see this ballhoging Crawford kid
PD
July 8th, 2010
4:26 pm
Pros: Solid 2-Guard, 6-8, point guard handle, methodical game, 20 point scorer, good 3-point range, decent perimeter defender
Cons: Too Quiet to be a leader, too much iso, not an explosive leaper and no killer instinct
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
4:28 pm
Why are some of you guys screaming for a big man. The only two teams last season that gave the hawks problems were the Cavs and Magic. They don’t have to worry about the cavs next season and with better defensive play next season they can match the Magics offensive perimeter threats. All the Hawks need is better pg play and better perimeter defense and everything else is pretty solid.Can’t wait to see the Hawks against the revamped East. Man the NBA is Fantastic.And Le Boo Boo please sign with the Knicks.
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
4:30 pm
Rondo-By the way since this is a Hawks Blog perhaps you should concentrate on how LeBron going to Miami affects the Hawks making the playoffs and at what seed. We had issues with them without Bosh and the King what do you think will happen now?
cp
July 8th, 2010
4:30 pm
Hopefully NBA TV airs the Hawks game late night. I like Landon Milbourne. Dude is very athletic. I wouldn’t be shocked if he threw down some crazy dunks. Luke Jackson is still trying to get back in the NBA i see. He played very well the last time we had a summer league team. Was hoping to see Othello get another shot. Anxious to see Teague, Crawford, and Sy……….
All I'm Saying Is...
July 8th, 2010
4:31 pm
Whatever happened to Garrett Siler [sp.]?
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
4:32 pm
Anyone but an idiot would know why the Hawks need a big man. Not just agianst the Magic.
Oh that’s Rondo!
All I'm Saying Is...
July 8th, 2010
4:34 pm
Garrett Siler is with the NJ Nets summer league team. Dang, we have got to get him back. See this link http://netsarescorching.com/2010/07/08/summer-league-game-3-recap/
uugh
July 8th, 2010
4:34 pm
We have to get rid of Mike Bibby and MO evans! We need players who don’t have too many flaws and are actually worth their $$$ Possibly trade Marvin if need be! Last season the Jazz started Rookie Wesly Matthews at SG/SF. We just have to find the right player. But the main thing is to get rid of the dead weight Bibby and Mo
uugh
July 8th, 2010
4:35 pm
Teague can Start and Jordan Crawford can play backup PG (Crawford & Crawford should play off each other well as scoring playmakers>>>>think larry Hughes and Gilbert Arenas) AND We save $6mill
uugh
July 8th, 2010
4:36 pm
Trade Mo Evans and Sign The longer/taller Pape Sy 500K to back up Marvin. Sign 6′8 Gerald Green for the Vet minimum. I would keep Childress if he would alllow it, but he can be used in a trade with Zaza for a legit Be if need be. Sign Sirgey Gladyr for 500K. Remeber, you can Pay 2nd rounders whatever you want & since they were late picks give em’ the minimum.
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
4:37 pm
The main thing is that Bibby & Mo are overrated, overpaid (and really don’t fit a need on OUR roster anymore) Trade them.
steve brown
July 8th, 2010
4:37 pm
I heart atlanta
You have to be an idiot to watch that crap-you are a moron to suggest others watch it as well.
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
4:37 pm
Damion James is rockin’ it for the Nets. I still think that would have been a good pick, if we had kept him.
I’m looking forward to seeing what Jordan Crawford can do. Don’t be surprised if he turns out to be competition for Teague at the 1. No, he’s not a natural pg, but neither is Teague. Both could be capable of handling the job, and it seems that Crawford is the better shooter, maybe by far.
Pape Sy will be interesting, but I think he will struggle at first. Still, you never know.
I would really like to see Sergei Gladyr show he’s ready to come over. If the kid can shoot as well as they say he can, and he can get his head in the NBA style game, there’s your bench shooter right there. Everybody deserves a Rudy Fernandez type of shooter (without the whining about minutes, that is).
How bad does Randolph Morris suck? This is HOW many years in the league, and this clown has to show up for summer league? Good lord…
Rod from College Park
July 8th, 2010
4:39 pm
Why isn’t Marvin on the summer league team? I bet he still wouldn’t stand out if he was.
truthspitter,
Looks like the Hawks screwed up the draft agian. Damian James looks like a NBA level small forward already, and we are paying 8 million per to a D-league level small forward who we drafted #2 in the draft. Wow. I know it’s only the summer league, but his skill level is above Marvin’s already. This might be another player that we missed on.
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
4:40 pm
Boozer over Joe Johnson? I just spit koolaid all over my computer screen. LOL…
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
4:40 pm
Real Hawk honestly i think the hawks would matchup pretty good with the 3 amigos if they come together. Le Boo Boo can’t be stopped but Wade and Bosh can be slowed down. The Hawks still will be a no. 3 seed in the East behind the Heat if they get Lebron and the Magic.The Bulls roster is better with Boozer but i still like the Hawks roster over theirs. And the C’s will be too beat-up next season to make a title run.
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
4:40 pm
No one will take Bibby at this age and this contract. Jordan Crawford has never played point.
Marvin should go and if you have any takers I’m certain Sund will answer your call.
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
4:41 pm
Rod ,
The Hawks want somebody out there on the summer league team that might actually do something with the ball when it’s passed to them. Putting Teague out there with Marvin would be like putting him out there with the bench scrubs. Oh wait…this is summer league…
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
4:43 pm
The Real Hawk,
Actually, Crawford was forced into that role a few times. Teams were closing out on his shooting spots, forcing him to drive to the basket and give up the ball to teammates. There was an article on it on Draftexpress.com, click on his profile to see it.
terrell
July 8th, 2010
4:43 pm
Glad to see Randolph Morris on the list. Kid needs some serious burn. Might even show us something. Coulda had that Big man we”ve been looking for, all along??
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
4:43 pm
The three amigos averaged 80 points last year. Bosh has over 40 double-doubles, Flash is still Flash, and we have never slowed James down.
Veritas Curat
GStateBen
July 8th, 2010
4:44 pm
Ok, for all those who think the Hawks/Atlanta Spirit Group are truly dumb, I’ll wade in the minority for a moment. I actually like the Joe Johnson deal. Whoa!
Joe’s deal (while a lot of money) does several things for the Hawks:
1) Allows them to keep their core intact (10 players @ $65 million, while Miami has 4 players at nearly the same amount) for yet another year without losing anything major (let’s be honest losing Joe Smith, Randolph Morris and Mario West won’t do anything to the Win-Loss record) and adding Jordan Crawford.
2) Allows them to either trade Jamal Crawford’s expiring contract for players or picks or both at the trade deadline.
3) Gives them nearly $12 million to sign other players next offseason.
See why I wasn’t so sure the Spirit Group were dumb after all?
Volman
July 8th, 2010
4:44 pm
Ray,
Randolph is SMART for going to the summer league. Right now, I don’t think he has a contract with anybody. If he plays well, he might get invited to the Hawks camp or be picked up by another team.
You’ve got to scratch and claw to stay in the league man!
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
4:45 pm
Rod ,
Go ahead and say it: we missed on him. I loved the pick when it was announced and damn near fainted when I heard we traded the pick. I was already blogging about Marvin having to watch his back (until he realized that James was out in front), when they announced the traded pick. Then, I thought we would take another SF/SG and a big guy. Wrong again, and if we don’t pick up a credible big guy through free agency or trade, all that noise that Sund talked around draft time will turn out to be BS. I damn sure hope not, but already watching James scorch the other summer leaguers is turning my stomach.
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
4:48 pm
Ok Real Hawk name a big man out there that can defend D.Howard.The only big man that can handle D.Howard is Rasheed Wallace.There ain’t that many dominant big men in the nba and the Hawks have their man in Za Za. Lets see how Drew plans to use him in the new offense.
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
4:48 pm
Crawford last year: 2.9 APG and 2.4 TO Pressing him to PG is not in his or the Hawks best interest.
He is a pure 2 guard scorer. Let Crawford be Crawford.
BigCaliDawg
July 8th, 2010
4:49 pm
Carlos Boozer
2009-10 STATS
PPG RPG BPG
19.5 11.2 0.5
And he plays in the paint. Marvin, Bibby, Jamaal and now the other Crawford can all shoot. How many bangers do he have? 2
Not having a big to match up with 2 other teams in the league is huge. If we hit our jumpers, we win. We’re off, we lose. Bigs can rectify that.
♥Mz. Hawkdafied♥
July 8th, 2010
4:49 pm
Wut up, fellow Hawks fans and Mr. Cunningham. I checked my guide and it shows that the Hawks summer league games will show on NBA TV the next morning each day with the exception of the Minnesota game which I didn’t see on the schedule at all. Like the game on the 12th will air on the 13th at 10am.
♥Go Hawks!♥
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
4:49 pm
Volman ,
That’s true, but if you’re having to scratch and claw to stay in, that says something about you.
RandMo has to absolutely dominate in the summer league if anybody is going to take him seriously. Why? Because the summer league is full of rookies and guys scratching and clawing just to get a chance to get invited to somebody’s training camp . RandMo is what, a 4 year NBA vet? Either he dominates, and shows he is not a constant foul-out risk (which he has been in just about any game in which he was given 8 minutes or more), or he’s out of the league.
Either way, I don’t really want him back. Took the dude 2 or 3 years to realize he needed to lose a significant amount of weight. How long does it take him to work on his game?
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
4:50 pm
Didn’t marvin win summerleague MVP once?
I’m not going to put a whole lot of stock into the summerleague play. I just want to see some of the guys we drafted play. JJ didn’t even put up 20ppg in college (or 18ppg for that matter) so i’m very interested in seeing Crawford & Teague crush the competition! ^_^
GO HAWKS!
Oh yeah, and we still need a big lol.
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
4:53 pm
The way to beat the Magic is to let Howard score his double/double and play defense on the 3 point shooters. It’s the same formula used by all teams that beat them. The Hwaks have not played the type of defense that will beat them.
The need for the big man presence is to not allow drives through the paint from teams with really good point guards that pass off. That kills us every year and we lose games to lesser teams. we have the better seed by winning against all teams left. Have not done that.
Volman
July 8th, 2010
4:53 pm
Ray,
Hope you’re doing well, by the way.
Anyway, I guess I read your post incorrectly somewhat. The guy isn’t a great player.. And we will always question how he’s still “in the league”. I just feel like the dude hasn’t gotten a legit shot at doing anything with the Hawks, but I also have seen an improvement in his work ethic as he’s matured and realized that you have to earn respect, playing time, and a contract.
While I’m posting, I am finishing up reading what you just wrote. Yes, like I just said above it took him a while to realize what it takes to be a professional athlete. I think he’s grown up a little.. He’s seen what it takes (from Woody, Joe, Smoove, Al). Does that mean he will make the team? Probably not. At least he’s learned some life lessons, though.
I would love to see the guy have a shot. Guess the summer league is his chance.
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
4:55 pm
The Real Hawk,
Having a low assist to turnover ratio can be attributed to several factors besides not being a good pg. Playing on a team with guys who can’t/don’t finish or score well is one. Being forced to be the guy with the ball in his hands all the time is another. I’m not saying we should start or even force Crawford to be a 1. All I’m saying is don’t be surprised if he turns out to be effective at that position from time to time. Same things happened with Jamal Crawford….
BigCaliDawg ,
I can’t argue your point about bigs who play in the paint and do so effectively.
But if you watched any Hawks games last year (much less all of them), you already know you went the wrong way with the rest of your statement. Review the season Bibby and Marvin had and tell me how good you feel about them as shooters (and nevermind what they DIDN’T bring on the OTHER side of the ball). Jamal can shoot, but he’s also streaky. The “other Crawford” has yet to play a minute in the League.
Know what I’m sayin’?
♥Mz. Hawkdafied♥
July 8th, 2010
4:55 pm
Yeah, I agree watching Damien James having a good summer league for the Nets is making me much more anxious to see what Jordan Crawford got. The Nets are getting ready to play in a few minutes. Big Siler didn’t look bad either. Well not to me anyway. Check the blog for updates later. Peace out.
♥Go Hawks!♥
terrell
July 8th, 2010
4:56 pm
Marvin was the mvp of the summer league. HELLO! Half of these guys ill never even sniff an NBA floor. Damien Jones is playing well,but it means very little to me after watchin Duck rip it up a few years ago.
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
4:59 pm
Volman ,
I felt that way about RandMo as well….for a while. Now, I’m kinda impatient for results. What bugs me is how he and Jason Collins ended up being our big man depth. Collins was once a promising young big man who used to give Shaq the fits. Now he’s overweight and all but useless. RandMo has some offensive polish and can rebound, but he’s a foul machine.
I still don’t know if he got a fair shake with Woody. And he has matured some, but how much longer before it all comes together (or does it ever all come together)? Do we have time to wait for that? All the same, I do wish him well. I had some serious hopes for him when we acquired him. He disappointed.
But then, management has disappointed me as well, and so has the coaching staff. We almost never used Joe Smith last year, and I truly believe he had something left to contribute then.
And yeah, bro’. It’s great to see you back around again!
Woodson II (the sequel)
July 8th, 2010
4:59 pm
Looks like ASG and SUND were so impressed with last year they penciled in ‘DITTO’ for this year and the one after! Its practically the same roster.
Did you really expect different results?
ReddJonn68
July 8th, 2010
5:00 pm
Hey look nobody in the league wants to trade with us to get over paid sorry @ss players, so let’s cut the wishful thinking out. Our front office sucks & we know it until we can a real solid person in management we are doomed. Joe just got rich off these suckers in ATL, & he knows it. All of the big time FAs are mentioning Championship, when talking about inkng their deals. What has Joe said about the reason he resigned. NOTHING !!!!!!!! If he was serious he would have taken a pay cut & been out there recruiting like Wade ( who has tasted the fruits of victory ). It’s just another hot & dumb @ss summer in the ATL. Thanks alot Sund !!!!!
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
5:02 pm
Real Hawk if the gaurds play lock-down defense the gaurds can’t break to the hoop that easily. Thats why Orlandos gaurds didn’t do squat against the C’s. Better perimeter defensive play will solve the hawks defensive woes and adding a slow big man will kill the hawks offensive flow.Find a replacement for Bibby and add a tough wing and problem solved.
taking up bowling next NBA season
July 8th, 2010
5:03 pm
I have a better chance than the hawks do. I dont want to watch this again….. like the bulldogs. I guess i will go running during college football…uck! can a brother just get a freakin center?
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
5:04 pm
Ms. Hawkdafied ,
Thanks for the updates and info!
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
5:07 pm
What center out there can be dominant for the Hawks.Don’t let what D.Howard did to you guys cloud your vision.
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
5:09 pm
Actually, Rondo has it right.
The Magic beat us up because we never stopped them from doing what they wanted from the perimeter, or through penetration.
The Celtics kept that from happening and isolated Dwight on the block, forcing him to be the star and main scorer. He failed, because he’s not that guy.
Dwight shot over 80% on us. Why? Because Orlando’s guards consistently broke through our nearly non-existent perimeter offense and dumped it off to him for one dunk after another. Then when we tried doubling him, they hit their wide open shots from the perimeter.
Dwight never averages more than 20 points or so in a game. How many times do you see him score 30? That’s why the Magic have fallen prey time and again, and why they were actually WORSE without Hedo Turkoglu (because Vince is a choke artist). But they’re better than us. Because Dwight is an athletic freak who is 25 pounds heavier and 3/4 of an inch taller than Horford? Yeah, partially. But also because we let Jameer, Reddick, Barnes, and Pietrus do as they please.
Last I looked, the world’s biggest morons could see that had nothing to do with our post defense….
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
5:11 pm
Howard had 21 points and 13 rebounds per game against us in the playoffs.
We lost by a total of over 100 points in that series, over 4 games.
Tell me how we lost by an average of 25 ppg when Howard averaged less ppg against us than we lost by?
Come on, now…
Big Ray
July 8th, 2010
5:12 pm
And anybody can answer that other than the “Mad Hatter.” I don’t even want to hear his retarded explanation.
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
5:14 pm
Jamal Crawford is not a PG. Defense is required for that position.
The numbers on the rookie don’t lie. If you are turning over the ball at the same rate as assist you are a shooter. That’s fine with me. let’s not try to put round pegs into square holes.
Sund did not draft him to play PG.
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
5:17 pm
Don’t be shocked next year if the Magic don’t win as many games this year. If D.Howard don’t add to his offensive arsenal they ain’t going no-where.And if the 3 amigos team up the Hawks still have the length and athleticism to compete with those guys unless they get some sick perimeter shooters out there which i don’t think they can afford this season.Just wait the Hawks will be alright next season and man i can’t wait.
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
5:18 pm
Rondo- The purpose of a big is to support the defense when it breaks down. The last resort. We need that and have not had it fr several years. Asking the defense to play shutdown defense when that has NOT been our history is a losing game. A big man will make teams think. I am not saying that is Shaq just that is what we need.
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
5:19 pm
You would be a great defense lawyer Big Ray. Thanks for backing me up on that one.
PD
July 8th, 2010
5:20 pm
The NBATV games will re-air overnight and the next morning before 1pm or whenever they go live for the next day
ReddJonn68
July 8th, 2010
5:22 pm
@ The Real Hawk Yes Crawford is a shooting guard no doubt about it. But Mike Bibby did one hell of a job running the point averaging 0.84 spg- & 3.9 apg for us this past season.
The Real Hawk
July 8th, 2010
5:23 pm
Again you want Howard to have a big game. You have to play defense and then have a half court game of your own. We have not had that and a big that scores will assist that.
Love ya Rondo but no big man no championship, ask the Celtics against vs. the Lakers in game 7.
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
5:23 pm
Real Hawk so how many wins would Dampier or Haywood add to the Hawks if they were on the roster.Or who you want Benga from the Lakers.
northcyde
July 8th, 2010
5:24 pm
Damion James did look good yesterday. He has a great shooting stroke. After the game, the broadcasters interviewed him for a little bit. James said that a lot of teams had him projected as a 3. But he says that Jersey thinks he’s athletic and quick enough to play the 2. He kind of reminds me of Wesley Person from back in the day.
As for the Hawks SL team, “Teague Watch” is definitely in effect. I’ll be looking at 2 things:
1) can he use his speed to create good scoring chances for himself.
2) can he slow down summer league PGs.
and honestly, I’m more concerned about #2, than I am #1.
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
5:27 pm
The Celtics had the Lakers beat for three and a half quarters and besides the bigs didn’t win for the game for the Lakers crazy man Ron Artest won it.
tyger
July 8th, 2010
5:28 pm
I’m taking $5 bets that RandMo dominates the Summer league!!!
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
5:33 pm
I’m not buying it. Crawford can be a good PG. ANYONE is better than Bibby at this point. Isn’t Randy Foye a UFA? what about Javris? Farmar? Livingston? I’m not convinced that those guys would do a better job than Jordan Craford can.
Besides, if we get Shaq, they just need to hit open jumpers.
cp
July 8th, 2010
5:33 pm
I remember when Dion Glover looked like Michael Jordan during the summer league, maybe we should bring him back too. Dermarr Johnson had a 40 point game once during the summer leagues maybe we should invite him over too. Hell Duck won the MVP of the summer league. Didn’t Sheldon look great playing in the summer league his second year? Hawks fans overreact sometimes. I like James and was shocked he fell in the draft but I think Crawford is going to be a steal.
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
5:34 pm
ReddJonn68,
Exactly! lol
ReddJonn68
July 8th, 2010
5:35 pm
Defense wins championships, but great defense is played as a team, not Individually. The NBA all-defensive team pgs are CP3 & Rondo. CP3 is there because of steal per game, Rondo is about the same because he can take more chances with those guys behind him. There is no such thing as a shutdown point anymore. Players like Gary Payton are long gone.
BrittishAnger
July 8th, 2010
5:37 pm
If my assumptions serve me correctly, opting to run Randolph Morris as the only center means we’re going to take a stab at recruiting a big in FA to play solid minutes rather than snag one of the undrafted. This is kind of a cracked out Summer League team….On paper it looks interesting, I’m not so certain with the lack of big man depth how likely we are to go undefeated, much less just compete on the boards. Should be interesting, hoping somebody has a good bootleg feed for these games…
Ken Strickland
July 8th, 2010
5:41 pm
I hope Lebron signs with the Heat, so we can eliminate them and the other teams vying for him. The Heat have only 3 players under contract, and 2 of them, PG MChalmers and PF MBeasley will have to start. That leaves a bench on one(1), SG KHasbrouk, who doesn’t have a single stat for the entire yr.
Their bench will be comprised of little more than 7 warm bodies. Therefore, they’ll end up over playing their starters, much like Woodson did with our starters. Too bad for them the rules only permit one ball on the court at a time.
It looks like Orlando will be our only serious challenger in the East. And with LDrew’s motion OFF, DHoward won’t be able to roam the lane and provide a one man DEF. And he won’t have the honor of going up against our PG’s and SG’s, like he often got the chance to do in Woodson beloved switching DEF. And their PG’s and SG’s won’t have the honor of having our C’s and PF’s on the perimeter and beating them off the dribble.
We aren’t going to have a lot of chances to the top 8 in our lineup, but there will definitely be a lot of changes in the way we utilize our talent, as well as the way we play and approach the gm, both offensively and defensively.
SWAT Native
July 8th, 2010
5:43 pm
Man, this is bogus. The Hawks summer league team (which sounds like it’s loaded for a summer league team) can’t play live on national TV either? When will the Hawks get some respect from the league?
terrell
July 8th, 2010
5:46 pm
Brendon Haywood 6 yr 55 million? Nearly 10 mill a year? Are you kidding me? Damm I wish I was 10 inches taller. lol!
terrell
July 8th, 2010
5:48 pm
Swat, they’ll show the games a trillion times. You’ll be alright. lol!
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
5:48 pm
Lebron better sign with the Knicks and get his buddy Melo to sign with him next year.The Kicks are back baby. Please Lebron sign with the knicks and next year Nuggets let Melo play for the Knicks. Now thats the three amigos i will be scared of Lebron,Amare and Melo. Wade and Bosh are frauds.
ReddJonn68
July 8th, 2010
5:54 pm
Agreed Ken Strickland. If Lebron signs with Miami who has no bench whatsoever, this will be compared to when Deion Sanders & Bruce Smith signed with the Redskins. There will be no rings to show for Miami’s so-called free agent coup.
ReddJonn68
July 8th, 2010
6:01 pm
Enter your comments here
ReddJonn68
July 8th, 2010
6:02 pm
my bag
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
6:06 pm
Well u don’t need much with those guys on your roster. Miami would just Sign some shooters. G.Green min, Udonis Haslem, Garrett Siler lol, Luther Head, Quinten Richardson, Jason Williams etc. Etc.
These talented fringe NBA players will def. hop on that bandwagon at the league minimum for a NBA title.
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
6:08 pm
Melo signed a 4yr extension with the Nuggets I beleive.
Jody
July 8th, 2010
6:21 pm
The more time that passes, the more I’m starting to believe the Hawks will do very little to change the roster to one of title contention.
cp
July 8th, 2010
6:26 pm
What is Siler doing that is impressing people on here because I’m not seeing it.
terrell
July 8th, 2010
6:31 pm
Me either CP. Siler looked bad against summer leaguers.
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
6:31 pm
Nothing lol. I am just talking about the fact that IF you get Wade, LeBron, and Bosh on the same team, you really don’t need much else around them to beast.
northcyde
July 8th, 2010
6:33 pm
You guys are crazy A team of Wade – Bosh – Lebron instantly wins 50 games at least . . . easily.
- You have 3 legit #1 scoring options on the team, with at least 2 of them being on the floor at all times.
- You have 2 guys in Lebron and Wade that are the premier slashers in the league, and flat out live at the FT line . . and they both pass the ball as well as anybody
- You have Bosh, who is one of the top 5 scoring big men in the league
- You have big men prospects in Dexter Pittman ( Texas ) and Jarvis Varnado ( Mississippi St ) that both bring a skill set to the table. Pittman = sheer size and decent scoring ability . . . Varnado = shot blocking and decent “on the ball” defense
- You have a PG in Chalmers, if not for anything else, is known for his good “on the ball” defense. He’s the type of defensive PG that the Hawks would LOVE to have.
- And because of all of this . . plus the allure of South Beach . . and the fact that Miami will now be on national TV at least 5 times a month . . you’ll be able to get cast-off vets to play for them. Cast-offs like a Flip Murray . . or God forbid . . an Allen Iverson . . who would go to them and play for the minimum . . just to have one last shot at a ring.
Miami will have no problem whatsoever fielding a team of the “New Big 3″ + 4 veteran players that you’ve heard of before.
Hell . . even Anthony “Dad” Johnson may show up in South Beach. And before anybody laughs at that, don’t forget what happened on Thanksgiving night. And don’t forget who dominated that 4th quarter.
terrell
July 8th, 2010
6:34 pm
Lebron probably doesnt want to be in the shadow of Wade(in Miami), or MJ(in Chicago). So I’m thinking Clev or NY. Clippers are my dark horse. lol!
terrell
July 8th, 2010
6:36 pm
Does Wade really want Lebron to steal some of his spotlight in Miami? If not all of it?
Najeh Davenpoop
July 8th, 2010
6:37 pm
The only two players on the summer league roster who matter are Teague and Crawford. Hopefully they can mesh together and excel in summer league. The rest of the players are not going to make the Hawks’ roster, and even if one or two of them do, they will only be playing in garbage time.
As for Damion James dominating summer league, if I’m not mistaken, DerMarr Johnson also used to dominate summer league. Let’s see him do it in a real game before we start crapping our pants.
terrell
July 8th, 2010
6:38 pm
Najeh, dont forget about Marvin’s MVP performance in the summer league. lol!
terrell
July 8th, 2010
6:40 pm
Heat already projected as a 55 win team with Wade, Bosh and a bunch of scrubs? Yeah right!
Najeh Davenpoop
July 8th, 2010
6:43 pm
Honestly, Kobe/Shaq/Payton/Malone in 2004 was a more formidable lineup than LeBron/Wade/Bosh/scrubs in 2010. Even if LeBron does decide to go to Miami — which I don’t think he will when it’s all said and done — I still don’t think they will win a title. At least not this year.
ReddJonn68
July 8th, 2010
6:49 pm
Chris Bosh is not a defensive terror down low. Also Beasley’s contract must come off the books to even make this happen. They will have the same issues the Hawks have now, being undersized in the post they won’t even be better than an older Boston team. No bench = no ring. And why is ESPN saying this man will be the most hated man in Ohio, this young man has his whole life ahead of him & this is America. This network is worst than TMZ now. Damn, can we get some real sports reporting somewhere.
O'Brien
July 8th, 2010
6:49 pm
I liked the Damian James pick for us, and I like the Jordan Crawford pick.
However, I will love the Jordan pick IF we trade Jamal. Having Jamal and Jordan and Mo at SG and no backup SF (mo is not a SF) is not managing assets efficiently.
Jody
July 8th, 2010
6:52 pm
Damian James has looked solid during summer league.
Robert
July 8th, 2010
6:58 pm
Volman,
Tthe Hawks should have let Joe Johnson go to New York.Joe Johnson will be the Hawks over paid player just like Rashard Lewis is to the Orlando Magic.In a few years Johnson’s contract will create salarly cap problems and there won’t be any money to sign Al Horfford or anyone else.
dub366
July 8th, 2010
7:22 pm
Jermaine B you need to go outside and dig a hole an buried yourself.
BrittishAnger
July 8th, 2010
7:38 pm
Hawks games will also be shown via ESPN3 in addition to what is being shown on NBA TV……
Hummmm
July 8th, 2010
7:44 pm
Matt Barnes to the Lakers? “Large in the pants,” where are you?
Bob Weiss
July 8th, 2010
7:44 pm
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
5:19 pm
“You would be a great defense lawyer Big Ray. Thanks for backing me up on that one.”
No body believe that s!ht. You guys are funny as hell. Orlando couldnt go inside because perkins and crew had that shut down. You mudder fckuers have a Ouija board for basketball sense. Any true NBA guard can dribble around another guard Idiots. What the hell is your Ouija board telling telling you about next year…
More of the same azholes.
niremetal
July 8th, 2010
7:44 pm
I REALLY like the European players on the Summer League roster…
God, I JUST LOVE MEN!
Bob Weiss
July 8th, 2010
7:46 pm
BrittishAnger
July 8th, 2010
7:38 pm
Hawks games will also be shown via ESPN3 in addition to what is being shown on NBA TV……
AS SOON AS THE ANNOUNCEMENTS WE MADE RATINGS PLUMMETED
Bob Weiss
July 8th, 2010
7:48 pm
You guys are crazy A team of Wade – Bosh – Lebron instantly wins 50 games at least . . . easily.
CO SIGN THAT
O'Brien
July 8th, 2010
7:51 pm
JJ article on ESPN.com about his contract signing
Jody
July 8th, 2010
7:57 pm
R.I.P. Mel Turpin
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
8:11 pm
Sherron Collins is looking really good in summer league right now, He’s playing for Charlotte.
N-Trigue
July 8th, 2010
8:32 pm
Papa Sy is gonna be the sleeper he might play better than Teague if given the chance to play extended mins at point. I expect Jordan to put up good numbers along with Teague of course and Sergio Glady will show us how well his jump shot is!
cp
July 8th, 2010
8:55 pm
lol my bad Master of the Obvious I wasn’t directing the Siler comment towards you. I actually caught on to what you were saying. I was talking about the people who act like we need him on the summer league team. I just see much promise in him at all. Other than being big he doesn’t do much else.
northcyde
July 8th, 2010
9:03 pm
Even a team like Charlotte played Orlando tougher than we did.
Why?
Not because of “lockdown” PGs like Felton and Augustin.
No . . they did it by having the bigs that could effectively challenge Dwight on both ends of the floor. Because that’s key to beating Orlando . . making Dwight work, so that he may get in foul trouble.
Charlotte’s bigs didn’t need help in trying to guard Dwight. When you can play him straight up, and keep him from just being dominant, you’ll have a chance to beat that team.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 8th, 2010
9:07 pm
“Even a team like Charlotte played Orlando tougher than we did.
Why?”
They had Larry Brown, we had Woody.
Sautee
July 8th, 2010
9:12 pm
LOL at the multi-named one STILL whining about Woodson.
O'Brien
July 8th, 2010
9:15 pm
Chad Ford has Shaq as his #3 available free agent. And Childress is ranked #4.
As much as we are talking about Shaq, the Hawks have not made an offer. is it safe to assume that they are waiting to see what happens with Childress first?
Sautee
July 8th, 2010
9:15 pm
And STILL diminishing himself as he has to stoop to derogatory language.
Again.
What a disappointing lack of vocabulary. Not surprising, but disappointing.
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
9:22 pm
CP, No worries lol. My mistake ha.
Sign Chills and Shaq lets take the SE Division!!!
Wabe
July 8th, 2010
9:29 pm
The Miami Heat just became America’s most hated team.
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
9:29 pm
CORRECTION NOW WE MUST BRING BACK CHILLS AND SIGN SHAQ OR WE WONT MAKE IT OUT OF THE 2ND ROUND
LEBRON HAS CHOSEN THE HEAT!
Najeh Davenpoop
July 8th, 2010
9:33 pm
The Heat are not going to get past Orlando. Even with LeBron.
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
9:37 pm
Yeah, Lebron and Wade cancelled each other out on Team USA. Wade had big games but lebron didn’t. and Bosh is a shooting Big man anyway. Just pack the lane and we should be fine.
Astro Joe
July 8th, 2010
9:44 pm
I assume that if you can’t get excited by the performance of another team’s player in the summer league (James), then you can’t get excited by a summer league performance from a player on our team. Is that how it works?
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
9:47 pm
Excited yes, but i’m just not going to jump to any “we scrwed up in the draft” hasty conclusions (we’ve had enough of those lol). J.Craw 20ppg at Xavier. I think we made the right decision, but only time will tell.
Wabe
July 8th, 2010
9:50 pm
I know this might not be of importance, but David Lee sign and trade with Golden State is confirmed.
“@STEIN_LINE_HQ RT @chadfordinsider: David Lee has agreed to a 6 year, $80 mil deal w/Warriors via sign-and-trade with Knicks.”
N.D.T.K.A.
July 8th, 2010
9:51 pm
Will Joe Johnnson take less money now to make the Hawks a better team like Lebron, D. Wade, and C. Bosh?
Jody
July 8th, 2010
9:56 pm
Wow. Just, wow. I wonder if the Hawks anticipated this happening (considering the Heat is in the same division)?
N.D.T.K.A.
July 8th, 2010
9:59 pm
Jarvis Varnado and Dexter Pittman are two solid bigs that were drafted by the Miami Heat. Pittman is a solid up and coming big man who has lost weight and can score. Varnado is a solid forward who can score in the post and is a shot blocker deluxe they will both make the Heats roster and will probably get playing time.
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
10:05 pm
Sund bettter get of his butt! We need moves and we need them FAST!
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
10:11 pm
LOL @ Joe. Saying he’ll help recruit Top FAs but will be THE HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE NBA.
Idiot
Ken Strickland
July 8th, 2010
10:12 pm
NORTHCYDE-get real, and stop trying to make up something in a futile attempt to prove your uninformed opinion. Surely you don’t expect anyone with an IQ to believe TChandler(7′1″ 235lbs), or TRatliff(6′10″ 235lbs), or NMuhommed,(6′10″ 250lbs)were the sole reason for Charlotte containing DHoward whenever they played Orlando.
In most cases, DEF schemes and overall team DEF are responsible for containing dominant centers like DHoward, not the individual efforts of any one player. Their PG’s didn’t have to play lock down DEF to be effective. All they had to do was keep the PG and ball out of the lane, effectively fight over picks, provide help DEF, and challenge the ball hard if the PG picks up his dribble.
Bibby couldn’t do any of those things, and we paid the price as a result. Woodson’s stupid behind was more concerned with doing whatever it took to protect MBibby, than doing whatever it took to protect the basket, lane or our front court. We couldn’t cover their 3pt shooters, cover for Bibby’s NO D, and provide help for Horford in the lane.
SAUTEE-STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
10:12 pm
Sign Shaq, Matt Barnes and trade Duck and Bibby and we WILL beat Miami.
GET CHRIS PAUL IN ATL OR ORLANDO. WE CANNOT LET MIAMI WIN
Master of the Obvious
July 8th, 2010
10:13 pm
Cleveland Firesale?
Varejao anyone? Mo Williams?
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
10:13 pm
JOE IS GONNA MAKE TWICE AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER HAWK.
TAKE A PAYCUT.
GOD DAMNIT.
TAKE A PAYCUT SO WE CAN ADD PLAYERS AND TRADE FOR A PG
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
10:15 pm
NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE VEGAS LEAGUE. WE NEED TRADES.
WHATS ALL THIS DAMN TALK ABOUT KEEPING OUR CORE? U DONT KEEP STARTING LINEUPS THE SAME FOR 2398 YEARS IN A ROW.
MAKE TRADES SUND
U SUCK BALLS
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
10:16 pm
SIGN SHAQ, MATT BARNES, AND TRADE MARVIN AND BIBBY FOR THE BEST POINT GUARD OUT THERE.
WE CAN COMPETE VS. MIAMI. OR ORLANDO CAN
Grandad
July 8th, 2010
10:19 pm
Anyone who thinks Jarvis Varnado & Dex Pittman
are championship ready NBA Bigs is foolhardy.
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
10:20 pm
what FAS IS JOE GOING TO RECRUIT HERE, MC?
CAN WE PLEASE GET AN ANSWER?
IS THE HAWKS FRONT OFFICE DOING ANYTHING? EVERY TIME SOMEONE ASKS IT’S S.S.D.D. NO ANSWERS WITH THIS FRANCHISE.
JUST THE SAME STARTING LINEUP WITH USELESS DUCK AND 39 YEAR OLD OVERWEIGHT MIDGET BIBBY
Tbird
July 8th, 2010
10:20 pm
Gonna be in Vegas and see Hawks play on 12th- 14th and 15th– Looking forward obviously to seeing Teague and Crawford– Davidson and Gladyr could be interesting as well–Not huge expectations for Pape–I will update thoughts on this blog if there is interest
Melvin
July 8th, 2010
10:25 pm
Take this you Acie Law haters….:
“Alex Kennedy: What are the Cavaliers doing two hours before The Decision? Meeting with Acie Law and giving him tour of facility, according to sources. Twitter”
Rondo
July 8th, 2010
10:33 pm
Le Boo Boo big mistake son big mistake. No garuntees son because you still can’t match-up against the show-time Lakers. The Lakers still have the better closer,point gaurd, big-men,bench,coach,and championship experience. I feel this move will be the biggest disapointment in NBA history.Artest slows down Lebron, Kobe locks down Wade, and Bynum and Gasol shuts down Bosh or anyother big man you bring in.It will take probably 3 to 4 years before you guys can get a title. And remember injuries do happen and Bosh and Wade are injury prone.
I MUS WRITE
July 8th, 2010
10:39 pm
Brendan Haywood for 54 million….Well Dam !! Hawks never had a chance.
O'Brien
July 8th, 2010
10:39 pm
Why would the Knicks take Randolph, Turiaf, and Azubuike for David Lee? Do they really think they will get Tony Parker or Carmelo next year?
I thought they would have asked for Ellis. That would have generated some excitement (him and Amare in D’Antoni’s system), and he would cost 4 years, $44 mil.
Mel
July 8th, 2010
10:39 pm
Man Joe is my favorite player but who were the Hawks bidding against.. couldnt they have offered Joe 100 mil.. He didnt want to go anywhere
Fresh
July 8th, 2010
10:41 pm
JeJe,
I agree. Rick Sund better get off his ass and get to calling everyone he can!!!! I DON’T CARE WHO YOU TRADE, RICK SUND YOU NEED TO START TO MAKING MOVES!!!
doc
July 8th, 2010
10:43 pm
it is time for our owners to man up and go get shaq and chills back along with a third option defender type point gusrd if we are to stay competitive. then shaq better be ready to man up and show folks he aint dead yet. that is our only hope.
northcyde concur
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
10:43 pm
Have always hated watching Kobe win rings, but will now be their biggest adovcate. Them, Boston, Orlando, and the Hawks.
A.B.M.
Grandad
July 8th, 2010
10:46 pm
Will LBJ cut into D.Wade’s allotment of “Free”-throws,
-OR-
will they carry over LeBronacle’s allotment,
-Giving-
Miami an extra 20+ per. [not including Bosh's]
Miami games may take an Xtra 45 min+ to play this yr.
Seeing as how all their games will be on espn, that means even
more commercial time to sell.[for the 'Boys Club' of course]
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
10:47 pm
SIGN SHAQ, MATT BARNES, AND TRADE DEADWEIGHTS MARVIN AND BIBBY FOR THE BEST PG OUT THERE, AND WE WILL COMPETE IN THIS CONFERENCE.
JAMAL OWNS WADE FOR ANY MORON OUT THERE WHO DOESN’T REALIZE THAT
GO HAWKS
Fresh
July 8th, 2010
10:47 pm
Doc,
I agree. After watching this, the Hawks must not only get Shaq, they need to retain Chills also.
I MUS WRITE
July 8th, 2010
10:48 pm
Je Je-Calm Down its hawks bussiness as usual. Every summer we wait until all the respectable free agents are signed to other teams and then we sign whats left. Our FA period doesnt start until mid August unless your name is Joe johnson. I just remember the way they handled Smoove and Chillz -last minute is what im saying.
Be prepared for the likes of -Joel Anthony,Jamal Magloire or Mbenga
Lebron should have went to Chicago- Miami is in our division ,im disgusted……………………………………………….
JeJe
July 8th, 2010
11:02 pm
I WILL ASK FOR THE 250TH TIME:
WHAT TOP FA’S IS JJ RECRUITING? HE TOOK THE MAX CONTRACT (ALREADY SIGNED) AND IS GONNA CLOG OUR PATHETIC PAYROLL. HOW DO U NOT TAKE LESS LIKE ARENAS OR DIRK OR PIERCE DID?
drmaryb
July 8th, 2010
11:19 pm
POH
The Pursuit of Happy-Ness!
Wade
James
Bosh
Liberty – Justice and the Pursuit of Happy-Ness! Is very elusive – don’t forget they is a god.
A Basketball god is lurking in the wings and he will have some say here.
I was always told – IF you chase the GIRL? The GIRL will run. But, IF you chase the GOAL? The GIRL will come.
Here’s my point: you can not paint a master – piece IF you are determined to paint a master – piece. There has to be a perfect – storm to create a Tsunami. Yeah … Yeah, I am extremely philosophical, but, that is the way I am wired, but I truly believe that you have to pave the way and stay humble, when you do the hard work – the victory is more gratifying and it’s not the pinnacle but the adversity and the journey that makes winning so SWEET.
There are NO shortcuts in LIFE!
There is NO get – rich – quick schemes!
In LIFE – There are NO guarantees … Only Oppottunities!
The Cream always rises to the top!
There is no “I” in team!
We shall overcome!
Never say die!
We could do this all night … But, the other teams in the East must step up the intensity to win.
The Hawks, Magic, Boston and Chicago are the TEAMS to beat … The Heat will soon know that too!
Let’s GO … Sund …Joe … Hawks!
Al Hondo Handy
July 8th, 2010
11:36 pm
Landon Milbourne has a shot at making this team. He is ready. He is a hard worker and will give it a 110% effort during the Summer League Games. Good Luck Landon
Mike is back
July 8th, 2010
11:49 pm
Dang MC, your old job just became the hottest job on the planet. Lol
The crazy thing about Lebron decision is…if you are considered the greatest basketball player on the planet…WHY DO YOU NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER TEAM…to win a ring. Maybe everyone will stop blowing sunshine up his assssssssssss now.
@Big Ray, I don’t want say too much about Crawford…until he gets a chance to play…but he got a fluidness to his game like a few of the great ones…so if he is the real deal…he should be able to light it up in summer league.
The one caveat about Damion James performance in summer league play…is its coming with very little resistant. That’s why these guys look like World Be Free in summer league, and Dion Glover during the regular season.
@Siler Supporters, you can forget about GSiler…I know I drink the Kool-Aid too. It is a niece story, but he is DLeague at best. He is playing with Favors and Damion James with Jersey …but when he is on floor…the game is too fast for him. He still got a looong ways to go…kind of like a poor mans Mario. He can go out and hustle and makes some fouls…but that’s about it. China ain’t helping him…he needs to commit to playing a couple years in the DLeague.
TrueHawk
July 9th, 2010
1:28 am
Alade Aminu. The one name that intrigues me beyond the usual. This is the guy we should give a legit shot. Comes from a legitimate basketball program and league. Has a lot of good basketball skills and his game may be more pro oriented than college. The Hawks are not the best at evaluating talent so we can only hope.
N.D.T.K.A.
July 9th, 2010
1:51 am
I never said Varnado and D. Pittman are NBA starting bigs. They have both started 3 years in the SEC and Big 12 respectively putting up good numbers with Varnado winning SEC player of the year last year. I was just making the point that they will be able to contribute with defense,rebounding and maybe some inside scoring. Playing with Wade, Lebron, and Bosh they will not be asked to do much anyway. Just like “Big Baby” in Boston his first few seasons his role was limited.
Anyway, Hawks need to make a commitment to focus on defense this season. Guys who will not play defense on the Hawks should be sat down regardless to how good they can score the basketball.
THE GAMES ARE ON NBATV
July 9th, 2010
7:11 am
They are broadcast later. I think the game vs the Grizzlies is on NBATV @ 10am July 13th
terrell
July 9th, 2010
7:11 am
Has Riley fired Spoelstra and taken over yet? lol!
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9:50 pm
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slim
July 12th, 2010
7:04 pm
If Sund keeps it up this summer he’ll be called Billy Knight JR!
big wes
July 12th, 2010
11:36 pm
How can you pay Joe more money than 2 time MVP James.Now hawks over salary cap can’t sign any talent for the future.Drafting no bigs.This is a talentless summer roster compared to other teams.
big wes
July 13th, 2010
3:45 pm
Teague looks very similar to Rondo when he played for the hawks.Needs to improve medium to long jump shot.