
Shaq provides muscle but also potential headaches.
Tim Povtak of FanHouse reports that the Hawks have offered Shaquille O’Neal a two-year contact starting at the full mid-level exception. That figure is pegged to the league average salary and won’t be known until the league completes its audit this week but should come in at about $5.5 million for the first season.
I can confirm at least the Shaq half of this story: He’d be interesting in playing for the Hawks, according to a person with knowledge of his free-agent desires. But a person familiar with Atlanta’s plans said it’s doubtful the team has made such an offer this early in the free-agent process. (UPDATE: Shaq’s agent, Perry Rogers, says he hasn’t heard from the Hawks.) The Hawks are seeking a bulky center, and ASG is said to be willing to use the mid-level exception and pay some luxury tax if necessary to do so, but so far it doesn’t appear the Hawks have decided whom else to target after re-signing J.J.
Shaq, 38, just finished the least productive of his 18 seasons. He’s certainly a more physical deterrent in the post than anyone the Hawks have now, and his blocks and rebounds numbers are still pretty good. But Zaza’s production actually compares decently when adjusted for minutes and when accounting for Shaq’s much higher usage rate. And if Shaq were to play a major role for the Hawks it would mean less minutes in the lineup for Al and/or Smoove, who are more effective players.
If the Hawks are looking to make a buzz as Potvak suggests (”They also could use O’Neal’s star appeal to help create some much needed interest in the franchise,” he writes) then Shaq can still do that. But they should be careful what they wish for in that regard. The Hawks are looking to create a more serious and dedicated culture for the team with a first-year coach, and I can tell you from firsthand experience that Shaq probably isn’t going to help that effort. His approach is that of an 18-year vet with four rings and a nonchalant view of the regular season.
If Shaq came to Atlanta, it wouldn’t be long before he’s telling teammates and media that the Hawks simply need to be dominant at home and .500 on the road and everything will be OK. When L.D. says the Hawks need to play with more energy and effort every night to make it a habit, Shaq at some point would suggest the Hawks don’t really need to worry until March. When the Hawks lose games they shouldn’t and slide down the standings, Shaq would shrug and say they just need to hold onto homecourt advantage for the first round and everything will be cool. And if Shaq becomes unhappy with his playing time, then I don’t need to tell you Shaq is not going to be quiet about it.
If the Hawks signed Shaq, he would instantly become the biggest presence in the locker room, the guy with the most cred and the biggest voice. In addition to deciding if Shaq could still help them on the floor, the Hawks would have to be sure this team is ready to handle his off-court influence.
MC
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ryan
July 6th, 2010
3:37 pm
If we got Shaq can you imagine with Al Horford how fearsome that front court would be lets face it Horford could never control D. Howard if bring in huge body like Shaq next to him Al will play harder.
Dan's Dickau
July 6th, 2010
3:38 pm
Your Quest should continue, Knowledge. That site is based in some dude’s basement.
Mystikal
July 6th, 2010
3:39 pm
AL HORFORD IS BETTER THAN JOSH SMITH! Both are good players that produce, but ppl get caught up with the highlight reel with Josh. Smoove is prob top 5 in the league talent wise, problem though is that 90% of what he does is off of talent. He’s seriously lacking in the skill departement. In 6 yrs, he still cannot shoot, dribble, guard on perimeter or make post moves. Because he is such a talent with his length and hops (and he has Big Al backing him up) he still gets good numbers.
Now when Horford came he automatically put hawks over the top into the playoffs. He has a winner’s mentality and even playing out of position is a top 10 center in the league. Al is a great passer, defender, team guy, mid-range shooter, and has post moves when he gets the opportunity. Even considering both are undersized for their positions, If Al and Josh switched positions Al would still be successful whereas Josh would be in foul trouble often.
Believe it or not, i’m not trying to hate on Josh and I like him for us, but if we’re serious about winning Al has what it takes; while we may be waiting many more years for Josh to put it all together.
Truth-Serum
July 6th, 2010
3:48 pm
Ray Northcyde post last night showing stats that showed Horford was near the very bottom for defending in the paint. The stat he showed had 60% of the shots attempted against horford in the paint were successful and that the average center allowed in the low fifties.
I hear you often make generalization like” Horford is a good defender or guys who horford handles well”. You make statements with out evidence. Excuse me for asking you to be a little more supplicant with you statements. I dont recall horford shutting any legitimate center down do you?
I think that is why he got little or no consideration for the defensive team, he doesnt do that well. I would love to see your stats supporting your claim that horford is a good defender. If he were we would not be in need of a defensive center. Further, If why do we need a guy to come in and defend you laughable 1 or 2 guys that horford cant defend. If he can defend people horford cant then horford needs to back him up.
Please dont get persnickety. LOL, There is a LOT of evidence saying horford is a weak defender, but Im still waiting for you to support your claim that he is a good defender with some evidence and not an opinion. We are talking defense, and although i dont count rebounds and defense but a by product of some one causing a missed shot and not necessarily the one who picks up the ball, there are 51 players who average 7 or more rebounds agame.
Im more concerned with defense.
Truth-Serum
July 6th, 2010
3:49 pm
AL HORFORD IS BETTER THAN JOSH SMITH!
hahahaha yea RIGHT!
Truth-Serum
July 6th, 2010
3:52 pm
Couldnt agree more Ray, If trading Al to get a center who can play defense will make the hawks better then ” I’ll hollar at you Horford!”
rodgrimes
July 6th, 2010
3:53 pm
Shaq would be the missing link that makes Atlanta potentially the best team in the east . If he does for Atlanta what he did for Cleveland they could win it all. He does not have to score, he is a space eater and gets his teamates open shots, this benefits Bibby and Johnson . He knows how to block out, this benefits Al and Josh. He has always been a willing passer, this helps with the Hawks biggest weakness, which is ball movement. If Josh Smith can develop a consistent 15 foot shot the Hawks would be a 60 win team. This move also helps the bench, with Marvin being able to become more aggressive teaming with Crawford. The NBA is a game of matchups. The addition of Shaq would give the Hawks the advantage at both forward positions almost every night, along with making them one of the bigger teams in the league.
Knowledge Quest.
July 6th, 2010
3:54 pm
Dan’s Dickau I know, right? I thought Id gain and advance knowledge here but these guys deny the truth to support there favorite player regardless of the fact that he is defensively very weak. I guess you are right. This site is operated in someones basement.
JoJo the Godfather
July 6th, 2010
3:56 pm
If Chicago strikes out with the big time free agents, would any of you consider trading Josh for Noah, a trade exception, and a draft pick?…Also, I know its just speculation, but what impact will the CBA have on next year’s free agents like Horford & Noah?…More or less money?
newkid
July 6th, 2010
3:57 pm
Think I’ve always been long view kind of guy doc. No ONE side in the NBA has a better opportunity (health issues notwithstanding) at creating a dynasty than our home side if we play this thing out with Superman and the assets currently in the home side’s vault. That long view is probably why I got so ticked at the ‘fiasco @ 31′ on draft night, but that’s another story.
All the hoopla by the locals in Cleveland this summer to convince its favorite son to continue to wear Cavaliers’ blue ought to begin here in Atlanta in earnest on the Magic’s first trip to the Bird’s nest this autumn. We should try harder than ever to beat the crap out of Superman’s side, but put just as much effort into showing him just how much he’s wanted and needed in the ATL come ‘12. Can’t be any involvement by the ASG (tampering), but nothing should deter our fans from posting billboards and whatnots around Orlando imploring him to return to his roots when he has his player’s option during the summer of ‘12. That’s our ’summer of 2010′, and the recruiting should commence immediately. BUT, let’s win a couple O’Briens in the interim.
ToeKnee
July 6th, 2010
3:57 pm
Get Shaq in Atlanta! Definitely! JOsh would be better Al and everybody
cp
July 6th, 2010
4:06 pm
We all heard about the locker room problems the Hawks had during the playoffs and now people want to bring in a guy who is known to split a rocker room? Just say to Shaq. Dude is on his last leg. Can you imagine the kind of headache he would be if he isn’t getting his way.
Big Ray
July 6th, 2010
4:17 pm
Actually, another site is reporting that Al is on the trade block. The hawks players in red are franchise players and the ones in black are being shopped around by the hawks. You may also want to book mark this site because its keeps up with the Hawks.
http://realbasketballtalk.motionsforum.com/nba-the-reality-f76/the-official-atlanta-hawks-trading-block-t5069.htm
More fantasy league nonsense
Tony
July 6th, 2010
4:36 pm
Anyone who would consider trading Josh or Horford are just completely lost. The real problem with the Hawks is that they do not possess a low post game. Take a look at the Celtics and what they did with the use of effective big men down the stretch. Shaq would be an immediate presence on the front line. Hands down, he is a premier center in this league if nothing else but to keep opposing teams out of the paint. Teams would be forced to shoot from the outside against a Hawks front line with Shaq in the middle. If you dont like Shaq then say that, but dont say that he is not a force in the middle. Yes, even at his age. The guy wants to win at least one more championship and the Hawks will provide him with a very good opportunity.
Blast
July 6th, 2010
4:46 pm
Simply amazing that we are devoting so much time, energy and cyberspace talking about Shaq, when his agent claims Hawks have not formally made him any offer yet. Why don’t we wait until Hawks actually tender him an offer, then we can all debate the merits on not of Shaq playing in the Highlight Factory?
Anybody advocating that we trade Josh Smith must not be a true Hawks fan. Josh is the most exciting Hawk player we have. At this point I wouldn’t even consider trading Josh for Chris Paul until Paul proves he is totally healthy and can play a whole season of basketball. You gonna trade Josh at all, it better be for an All-Star calibre center.
And anybody claiming AL Horford is a bad defender or cannot still improve his game must not have watched a lot of Hawks basketball. Must not have seen AL suffer through Woody’s switch defence and still be able to stay with point guards and even block their shots.
One thing you cannot take away from Al is his heart and game IQ. Wonder what folks have against this kid?
tjhook
July 6th, 2010
4:56 pm
If we don’t get Shaq then I’m all for Al Harrington getting that Mid-level exception. Al HARRINGTON!!, AL HARRINGTON!!, AL HARRINGTON!!!
Anthony Adams
July 6th, 2010
4:59 pm
He will help the team. How much I can’t say! But it would be nice to have him! I would definitely attend more games! I do beleive it would be a distraction to the team.
lou hudson
July 6th, 2010
5:09 pm
Everyone needs to understand that the Hawks have a ton of players who can be traded as opposed to the dreams mentioned. Again, Marvin is clearly not a legitimate overall # 2, but he’s a decent young SF with potential upside at a relatively fair price for a starter. As a 2nd option, probably he can shine. Bibby has had a solid NBA career he is on the down side, but still an effective shooter who can help a team as a back up PG. They both have value, but the Hawks need to move them in order to improve the teams’ chances to win. No New Orleans will not trade CP3 for these two only. The Hawks 1st round pick next year or ZaZa will probable have to be added. However, do you really want to give away this much for a player coming off a major knee injury and a garbage player. Remember M. Ellis, K. Hingich, A Miller, etc are trade possibilities. Moreover, the Hawks still have J Chill rights, and two expiring contracts JC and Mo Evans. The Hawks have several pieces which are attractive. Whether it’s Shaq, Kaman, and Pryzbilla, The Hawks hold a very strong hand. The Hawks must address the 5 spot and PG positions. This team’s weakness are not at the 2, 3, and 4 positions, so would everyone STOP proposing trades which involve guards and forwards. Please address the areas where the team can be improved. The ASG is making moves to strenghen the team for a title run; broke or not let them complete the task! Also, JJ is not the problem, we all know the problem areas. So people stay focused on that!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Hawks!
Blast
July 6th, 2010
5:09 pm
Next to LeBron James, few players in the league gets as many And 1’s than Josh, or stuffs up the stat sheets better than Josh. And I can also argue that while Josh legitimately earns his and ones, LeBron more often than not gets his handed to him by refs on a golden platter.
How many times has Josh ended a game with stats that go like this: 17 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 blocks, 4 steals, and some monster jams? And y’all so easilly forget the two regular season games he won on put back dunks.
JSmoove’s only weakness that I see are his maturity and free throw woes. Of course he is not a jumpshooter either, but he did cut down on long jumpers and went to the post a whole lot more.
Daniel
July 6th, 2010
5:09 pm
Ray,
I have to bust you on one thing “I have never advocated trading Josh unless it makes the team better.”
Really??? Wow that is a little master of the obvious statement right there.
I hope we don’t make ANY trades or signings that doesn’t make the team better.
Just picking man.
Long time no post, but I have been busy with World Cup. I will get back soon.
Daniel
July 6th, 2010
5:12 pm
Blast- The only problem is that you mentioned Josh’s weaknesses still include maturity issues. He has been in the league too long now for that to be a concern. When does it change from being immaturity and just plain ole “can’t do right”?
I find that element of his game baffling especially given how superbly he has conducted himself off the court.
terrell
July 6th, 2010
5:14 pm
To everyone who says Shaq will put us over the top: Phoenix and Cleveland thought the same thing. Both teams actually had a better year, the year before Shaq arrived. Not sayin any of that matters where the Hawks are concerned. Just sayin.
O'Brien
July 6th, 2010
5:21 pm
Blast,
I wish there was something else to talk about in Hawksville (coaching staff, Chills, trades), but unfortunately, Shaq is all we have for now.
I am open to trading Josh, and I am a true Hawks fan. However, I am hesitant to trade him without seeing what improvement he makes playing closer to the rim (hopefully less jumpshots), and in Drew’s system.
Big Ray,
How do you feel about Brad Miller? He is less of a locker room and chemistry risk than Shaq.
yoursporthouse.com
July 6th, 2010
5:22 pm
get rid of Marvin please….I’ll take him for a slice of Chicago style pizze.
yoursporthouse.com
July 6th, 2010
5:23 pm
If any team is dumb enough to take Marvin, please trade him fast.
STEEL (Formerly VenomSpitter)
July 6th, 2010
5:38 pm
Am I the only one who can’t stand Michael Wilbon
Mitun
July 6th, 2010
5:38 pm
ok, I love watching the Hawks in action but the only way that we could be true contender is a play – maker PG, the right GM and a dominent Big Man. Did the hawks had a chance to become a contender for NBA Title answer yes. we had the chance to have Brandon Roy, Chris Paul/Deron Williams but we passed on them and we drafted Pau Gasol in 2001 but traded him to Vancouver. now if we had those guys and some of the guys such as Josh Smith and Al then we would have been a better team that we are now.
Tony
July 6th, 2010
5:40 pm
Thanks Super Lou. I dont think half of these people even watch the Hawks…maybe they watch the highlights on ESPN…but true, the problem is not JJ or any other player. Remember, this team has IMPROVED over the last 3 years. The hole to be filled is at center, period. Shaq was not the problem in Cleveland, they didnt have a frontcourt! Boston chewed them up. But still these people here will continue to blog for the sake of blogging. If we are real fans, we should band together and encourage mgmt to get us a center. Not another Koncak, but a true center!
bigdave
July 6th, 2010
5:40 pm
Allen Iverson Twitter:
I want to return to the NBA this season, and help any team that wants me, in any capacity that they feel that I can help. I’m disappointed, and I owe my fans more than what they have seen of me the last couple seasons. However, now that my family is healthy and rock solid, I can concentrate fully on doing what I do best! At the camp, I will help teach kids some of what it takes to be successful in life. On and off the basketball court.
22 hrs ago via web
Blast
July 6th, 2010
5:42 pm
Daniel,
I hear ya. But remember, Josh improved by leaps and bounds both in his game and maturity level last year. Yeah, he still pouts and complains to refs too much, which is where the maturity stuffs comes to play, but every player in the league except Joe Johnson complains to the refs.
O’Brien,
Agree with you. We all should also not forget that Josh jumped into the league straight from high school, no college experience, and he has only had Mike Woodson as his only coach in the NBA. Even Kobe took some time to find his stride in the league. I can’t wait to see what Josh can accomplish under a different coach and offense. In fact, that applies to the entire team as well, especially Joe.
~~MAC-ToWN~~ (Area Code 478)
July 6th, 2010
5:54 pm
…………..unless they tell me I have to come off the bench with limited minutes.
-last part of Allen Iverson’s “tweet”
bigdave
July 6th, 2010
6:07 pm
… or my ole lady threaten to leave me cause im tricking off too much here in the A.
-very last part of Allen Iverson’s “tweet”
chris
July 6th, 2010
6:11 pm
It’s true we need a “true” center, but right now there are not many true centers in the nba. Until there is a better option Shac is the best option. We need to match up with our biggest rival in our division which is Orlando. Everyone should realize Shac wld not be expected to play anymore than 25 – 30 mins per game. That wld mean that josh wldnt need to be out on the perimeter for the entire game either. Who said you can’t play with 2 pf and a true center? We dont need Shac to be the Shac of 10 yrs ago. We already have scorers. We just need him to D’up Howard.
chris
July 6th, 2010
6:18 pm
That should read Shaq
JeJe
July 6th, 2010
6:45 pm
Dallas working out Haywood for Beasley? Why the heck would you trade a solid center for a SF/PF tweener? You already got Caron and Dirk
O'Brien
July 6th, 2010
6:55 pm
MC,
Have you heard anything about JJ trying to recruit anybody? Or was his agent just talking out of his mouth?
northcyde
July 6th, 2010
6:58 pm
@ Truth-Serum . . . . Horford’s defense isn’t as bad as you make it out to be. If a center catches a ball in the post around 10 feet away from the basket, Horford does a decent job of keeping him from scoring.
But the problem is exactly what you state . . his defense around the rim. And those stats that are compiled by 82games.com do NOT count PGs coming into the lane and scoring on Horford, like some would want to point out. They’re only accounting for the production of the other team’s center, when Al is matched up against him.
LOL . . you make Horford sound like the worst defensive center in the league. He’s more of an average defensive center, whose on the bal defense is decent, but point blank range defense is suspect
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@ Big Ray . . . adding Shaq to this team will give us the ability to play any style, and against any team. And you could still keep Horford and Smoove here. and you don’t have to play Smoove at the 3.
Go to Bradley’s blog about Shaq, and read starting near the bottom of Page 2. I had to thoroughly and systematically dismantle just about every one of his 5 reasons to not bring Shaq in.
ICECOLD
July 6th, 2010
7:23 pm
It’s funny how people complain about we need a big man and we need to trade josh and all that crappy…crap… but didn’t we have the number one team in points in the paint… top 10 in blocked shots… and didn’t we hold kg and Perkins to almost nothin. isn’t horford the second best center in the east.. and didn’t josh smith get runner up defensive player of the year besides dwight Howard……
are Yall sure yo watching the right team… u trade either one of them its over. this team gets worst… hands down…
Big Ray
July 6th, 2010
7:34 pm
Northcyde
I respect what you have to say, and thank you for telling it like it is. I didn’t have to read your comments to know that Truth Serum was prostituting them for his own purposes, by way of exaggeration.
I agree that Shaq allows us to play a number of styles and that he COULD help. What I don’t want is for him to be a distraction, and no amount of stats on 82games.com or anywhere else is going to be able to explain that. Again, if he can accept the role we need him to play, I’m all for it.
My argument was mainly that he isn’t THE answer for us the way some people are portraying him. Their are some nonsense arguments out there that call for Shaq to be our 30+ mpg starter at center, Horford at the 4, and Josh at the 3, which is something I think both of us don’t want to see happening. As for Bradley….well, he’s Bradley. You know how dude is. I’m going to check out your stuff in a minute or two.
Ken Strickland
July 6th, 2010
7:36 pm
For those still fuming over the ASG offering JJ a max contract, like it’s your money or something, consider this. It’s obvious Larry Drew won the ASG and Sund over with his philosophy, his OFF/DEF systems and overall presentation. It’s also obvious, at least to me anyway, that after analyzing his OFF/DEF philosophy and systems, they were convinced JJ would become a max contract caliber player playing under LDrew and his OFF/DEF systems.
I have no doubt LDrew convinced Sund and the ASG JJ could play fewer mins, handle the ball less, and still maintain, if not actually increase, his overall OFF/DEF production simply by being more efficient. I think they feel JJ will flourish in LDrews OFF system and uptempo OFF. Apparently JJ feels the same way, because he didn’t entertain any other teams or offers, or wait to see what Lebron, DWade, CBosh or AStaudemire would do before returning to the Hawks.
O'Brien
July 6th, 2010
7:45 pm
Northcyde,
Good stuff on Bradley’s blog. I guess nobody told him you were the king of research.
northcyde
July 6th, 2010
7:49 pm
The reason I write these long posts containing research is because I don’t have much other choice.
You see, AJC people, I don’t have what they call social skills.
I spend obsessive hours researching useless stats because I am not quite competent at human interaction.
Thanks,
northclyde
Big Ray
July 6th, 2010
8:02 pm
Northcyde ,
Damn fine string of posts.
I only have a couple of minor quibbles, and they really don’t amount to much.
The first is that we could bring Josh Smith to play a Lamar Odom-like role. I’m not disagreeing as much as I am voicing a concern. I don’t think Josh is mature enough to handle such a role, and I really don’t know if he ever will be (or if he’ll be okay with such a role). He doesn’t always do what we need him to do in a starting role. Still, he could bring one heck of a spark in a 28-30 mpg role. I’m not upset that the Hawks are reportedly listening to offers for him, actually.
Much as I like the guy, if we’re making some changes, we need to get really serious about them. That’s not the same as saying I want him gone, but I’m a Hawks fan first, last, and foremost. If the right deal comes along….
The second is about the “per 36 minutes” and “per 48 minutes” stats. They make plenty of sense, and I won’t argue with any of them. However, there is something to be said for the guys who actually play 36 minutes, and those who don’t. There’s always a reason. Bradley makes a glittering generality statement based on the total stats themselves, not the split hairs. Is he wrong? Yes and no.
I never expected Horford to be more than average defending the rim itself. He’s not that kind of defender, though he does get some blocks. He’s the kind of guy who is more likely to keep a guy from getting the position he wants, assuming he can actually defend the paint area (as opposed to be drawn out to the perimeter on some defensive switch). And he’s better at that than Shaq is.
I don’t have an issue with Shaq. If we can use him properly and he can accept a defined role, we’re good to go. I also can appreciate Horford for who/what he is. A guy who has the guts and heart to play a position that he doesn’t necessarily naturally belong to, and do well at it. On both ends of the floor.
Big Ray
July 6th, 2010
8:15 pm
Truth Serum ,
You are talking about one thing and one thing only: blocking shots. That is not all there is to defense. I don’t see a point in trying to explain the rest of it, as you would only call it a “cop out.” In the meantime, you aren’t exactly a fact producer yourself. You say my claims are never backed up with fact. Heh….and your consistent claims of Horford being a “horrible defender” were just busted by Northcyde. Too funny.
#1 Chillz
July 6th, 2010
8:27 pm
ASG:
Don ‘t do it. The cactus is a cancerous plant. Sign B Haywood and call me. I might be interested in a return from Greece. Do you have enough $$$ for that? If not, leave me alone.
See ya,
J Chillz
Atl Resident
July 6th, 2010
8:29 pm
Well……..the Hawks do need a starting center……..badly and if they want to compete against anyone.
I MUS WRITE
July 6th, 2010
8:31 pm
Shaq over ZAZA the flop artist all day. If we want to move Josh,I would offer Josh/Bibby/Evans, A core of JJ/Melo/Horford would be an absolut problem.
Then we could send ZAZA/Marvin/pick to The Clippers for Kaman.
I think we should look at Ryan Hollins to come off the bench in place of Joe Smith/Cheeseburger Collins.
Teague
JJ
Melo
Horford
Kaman
Bench- JamalC/Chillz/JordanC/Hollins/Siler
I MUS WRITE
July 6th, 2010
8:35 pm
TJ HOOK – Im with you on the Al Harrington thing -he would be a much better option than ol Marvin. Harrington has range as well as a lowpost game. If he would come for the MLE I say lets do it
Mr. Timothy
July 6th, 2010
8:47 pm
MC and Big Ray,
Saw the post by “J Chillz.” Made me think, do the Hawks still own his NBA rights? And, would it have been wiser to bring him home than to get locked down to an immovable 6 year max deal with JJ? The squad would be worse without Johnson, but this feels like an Allen Houston caliber albatross around the neck of the Hawks.
Would Childress have been interested in the starting 2 guard spot on a 53 win NBA team? JJ would be tough to replace, but the trio Chills, Jordan, and Jamal Crawford could have eased the pain. But, that’s with the presumption that Childress would have came back. Who knows? Maybe the dude likes Greece.
P.S. How does Johnson rehab his image with the fans? I’ll never forget the infamous statement he made, “We could care less if the fans show up.” I thought this was just one last blast on his way out of town, but JJ is locked in now. Will his poor showing(s) in the playoffs, along with the previously mentioned statement diminish his value in the eyes of fans? If so, how will that affect the franchise?
ryan
July 6th, 2010
8:48 pm
This is a long shot but why don’t the Hawks look at Steve Nash who may want of the Suns and could lure Shaq and reunite have all the former Suns back together.