Atlanta Hawks: Still waiting on J.J. (Sat. Update: Hawks confident, patient)
SAT. UPDATE: Despite the rumblings about J.J. bolting to team up with another All-Star , the Hawks remain confident he will accept their max contract offer.
There hasn’t been discussion about a sign-and-trade because Joe still hasn’t given Atlanta any indication he doesn’t want to re-sign. The Hawks expected the process would take a few days so, from their perspective, nothing has changed. Hawks blog legend Sekou agrees that everything is still on track for an agreement.
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The apparent hesitation by J.J. to accept the Hawks’ six-year, maximum contract offer has led to speculation that perhaps he’s waiting to see what happens with LeBron and other top free agents before committing to Atlanta.
(UPDATE: Chris Sheridan of ESPN.com reports that J.J. “wants to see how things shake out with the other maximum-salary free agents” before making a decision. He quotes a source saying the chances of J.J. accepting the offer are “slightly” better than 50-50.)
SI’s Ian Thomsen reported earlier today that J.J. and Stoudemire remained “open-minded” about taking less money to sign with the Knicks if LeBron goes there (though now it looks like Amare already is committed to New York) . Under that scenario, which Thomsen described as a “longshot”, either J.J. or Amare (or both) would have to take even less than the non-Bird max to play with LeBron in New York since the Knicks don’t have the cap space to give all three max deals.
Meanwhile, the Hawks continue to wait on Joe. There still have been no indications that he won’t accept their offer. His agent says Joe is “comfortable” and “happy” in Atlanta. In their last meeting, the Hawks reiterated their desire to offer him $27 million more than what he can get on the market. So I’m not sure what’s the hold up.
If you are still hoping for a J.J. sign-and-trade, the transaction would have to happen all at once. When the signing period opens on July 8, the Hawks couldn’t sign J.J. and then trade him later in a separate transaction. Under CBA rules, if J.J. re-signs with the Hawks he’s not eligible to be traded for 90 days or until Dec. 15, whichever comes later.
MC
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304 comments Add your comment
Grandad
July 3rd, 2010
12:49 pm
Grandad; great post @ 12:49
Ernest T.
You have no idea.
You’re in over your head.
Now run over to “Cheers” ‘Cliff’
&
play with Woody and the gang.
Dang Grandad, fantastic post!
Fegatello, son.
Be careful it’s a trap.
i_am_soulstar
July 3rd, 2010
12:57 pm
D21
July 3rd, 2010
12:35 pm
In a perfect world, all players would think like that. But that’s not the world we live in. And I promise you, it’s not how their agents are thinking (especially Arn Tellem, widely regarded as a broker of some of the most lucrative contracts in sports history).
http://www.sports-agent-directory.com/sports-agents/arntellem.asp
Shout out to Najeh by the way, from here on, J.J.’s agent’s name is Arn “Soulja Boy” Tellem!
Everyone’s talking about Childress, but what people aren’t considering is that stock for guys like Marvin WIlliams is rising as well with all the small forwards staying put. So with 1 or both being expendable to us, Sund actually has the assets to improve through proper asset management (Trade Marvin for cap relief, sign-and-trade or sign Childress, etc.)
Also, the owners have stated that they’re willing to go into the luxury tax, and they should be if they’re serious about winning a championship. No one’s applauding them for doing what they SHOULD be doing (I’m not).
Gotta spend money to make money (ask the Lakers and the Celtics).
GO HAWKS!
Mystikal
July 3rd, 2010
12:59 pm
@MC, do you know if Childress has opted out of his Euro contract yet? I believe he has until July 15th to do so?
Mystikal
July 3rd, 2010
1:12 pm
For all the “Lebron Watch” hype that is being reported it seems like much depends on what Chris Bosh does. Since so many teams foolishly thought they could get stars to come together (and take less money) things are playing out much differently than anticipated now that the money is in play.
Lebron & Dwade can obviously get the most money if they re-sign with their respective franchises. Chris Bosh however is the only player who’s made it known he is NOT returning to his old team. So for the teams loomin… Chicago, New York, Jersey, etc.. it seems like they should pay substantial attention to Bosh so that they aren’t left in the cold when the dust settles.
I cannot see Lebron & Dwade playing together. That is too much ego in play. When ppl thought Lebron and Shaq would clash last year, this would be that times 10! Competitively though, it would eat at each of them to do that.
O'Brien
July 3rd, 2010
1:14 pm
Mystakil,
I don’t think childress has opted out yet. He is probably waiting to see what kind of offers he gets.
What I think will happpen is if jj resigns with the hawks, a team will offer childress a contract, because the hawks would be unwilling to match.
I’m concerned about losing JJ though, especially if stoudemire signs with new York on Monday.
Hoops
July 3rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Lewis,
What about Chandler after he passes a physical by the Hawks doctors? Trade Zaza, Bibby, and Evans for Chandler. The Bobcats get a big in Zaza that has a reasonable contract, a shooter off the bench in Bibby, and an expiring contract in Evans. The Hawks finally get a big that can really play when healthy with an expiring contract.
John McCain
July 3rd, 2010
2:01 pm
Duh?
Illinois facing ‘outright disaster’ amid budget crisis
‘We are not paying bills for absolutely essential services … that is obscene’
By MICHAEL POWELL
Updated 7/3/2010 8:30:18 AM
Tuesday, July 24, 2007
Illegal Aliens Cost Illinois Taxpayers $3 Billion+
by Don Castella
A FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform) Report titled The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Illinoisans Concludes that Illinois spends more than $3.5 Billion per year on Illegal aliens in just three major areas:
“Analysis based on current estimates of the illegal alien population residing in Illinois indicates that population costs the state’s taxpayers more than $3.5 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. That annual tax burden amounts to about $695 per Illinois household headed by a native-born resident. Even if the estimated $465 million in sales, income and property taxes collected from illegal immigrants are subtracted from the fiscal outlays, net costs still amount to more than $3 billion per year.”
lewis
July 3rd, 2010
2:08 pm
I’ve always liked Tyson Chandler, he’s a huge presence down low.
I’ll wait for the masses to pick apart that trade.
N-Trigue
July 3rd, 2010
2:17 pm
We need to go after Shannon Brown/Tyrus Thomas or either Shannon Brown/Luis Scola! Don’t know why no one is talkin about Shannon Brown he will be an absolute steal for somebody! He could backup Joe if he returns at sg or start if he doesn’t or he can take Marvins place at Sf. Sund needs to multi task while waiting for Joe to sign. Tyrus Thomas would give us a great athletic front court with shot blocking ability unmatched by no other team. Lineup Teague,JJ,Josh S, Horford, T Thomas bench Jamal, Shannon,Marvin,Randolph, Zaza
vava74
July 3rd, 2010
2:20 pm
DP,
You obviously watch basketball by reading boxscores and you don’t care about D.
Bosh, Roy and Rose are clearly below JJ’s level. Nowitski may be even since his size and type of offense compensate his deficient D.
There are others which their D is still so suspect that their overall contribution to their teams (+-) is questionable and in my opinion lower than JJ: Durant*, ‘Melo.
So yeah, I consider JJ top 10.
Tony,
Salmons played 7 games against the Hawks at his top level and doing his best.
JJ played 4 games at his real level (27,5, 7,5 and 4,5 on .477fg%) and then due to the chemistry train wreck and internal wars completely lost his focus and drive.
Do you want to criticize him for some lack of mental strength? I accept that argument.
And last but not the least: personally, I consider Howard nothing more than a “NBA sponsored Diop” with a free pass to foul on D and on Offense as he sees fit.
His actual BBall talent within the actual BBall game regulations is WEAK and nowhere near JJ’s.
He is basically a marketing product. Potential? Yes. Actual game? No way.
* note that Durant is now getting a privileged treatment from the refs as well. Great talent yes, but protected by NBA refs who award him ALL contact on him, even if minor, as fouls.
northcyde
July 3rd, 2010
2:21 pm
People are dumb . . and too damn emotional when it comes to this.
If we pull the offer, we are definitely limited to MLE type players. We wouldn’t even be able to execute a sign and trade for somebody.
And you need to know the history of the franchise. We are NOT guaranteed to get anybody that’s available, to sign for the MLE. Remember last year? The reason why we had to settle for Joe Smith and Jason Collins, is because NONE of those other big man free agents wanted to come here.
NOT A SINGLE ONE.
But some of you emotional crybabies want the Hawks to just pull the offer off the table, because he’s not making a quick enough commitment to say that he will sign the deal . . . on a holiday weekend?
I know we have a lot of kids out of school that are on these boards, so I understand why they are emotional. They’re teenagers. They can’t help it.
But if you are an adult, there’s no need to be emotional about all of this. Just sit back and let the process play out.
cdog
July 3rd, 2010
2:31 pm
joe johnson is a good basketball player but for whats best for him and the hawks in the long run would be a sign and trade deal to another team.it would benefit both parties.the hawks will never win a championship with johnson as their go to guy because he’s not mentally tough enough to handle that role especially in the playoffs.he’s not d. wade, kobe, pierce, or even steve nash when crunch time comes.the best thing he should do is go to another team.the hawks need to get more talented and better as a team.thats not going to happen with johnson
Tbird
July 3rd, 2010
2:35 pm
Vava…Bosh, Roy and Rose are CLEARLY below JJ’s level and Nowitzki may be???????WOW…unreal. JJ is not in Dirk’s league. The Hawks would do backflips if they could acquire ANY of the other three in a straight up trade while no GM in basketball would trade in the other direction. JJ amasses his stats by dominating the ball for longer and more excruciating periods than any other player in the NBA. He is the product, yes of a horrid offensive system but one that ballooned his personal stats up enormously
G. Tampa Bedwetter
July 3rd, 2010
2:37 pm
I wouldn’t feed him for him.
i_am_soulstar
July 3rd, 2010
2:41 pm
Marvin and Zaza for Tyson Chandler… I think the numbers work..
guesswhosthis
July 3rd, 2010
2:47 pm
I hope Joe Johnson signs with the Hawks. Even though the price is a little high for him, he is the best player we can get. I think the Hawks will be better off moving Joe Johnson over to small forward and start Jordan Crawford at shooting guard because Marvin Williams is our weakest link on the team. If you can trade Marvin for a good piece then do so, but if not, then put him on the bench. And for everyone trying to get a perfect center, there are 30 teams in the NBA and only a few centers that would fit that criteria so our chances are slim. Instead of trying to build the perfect team, chances are it’s not going to happen. If it was that simple to build a perfect team, then you would have 30 perfect teams. The most important thing is coaching. A coach needs to be able to make the most of the pieces he has. Mike Woodson was the worst at that. Instead of putting players in position to make them effective, he put them in positions where they were the least effective. So I think Larry Drew will do wonders with this team. If you watch the international teams that beat the US teams, they were clearly outmatched talent wise. But they put each player in a position where they would be the most effective and thats how they won. And basically, all international teams run offenses that have a lot of player movement and ball movement. I think that’s what Larry Drew will bring to this team. Also how many of those international centers would start in the NBA? I would say none. So it’s not about having the perfect team. It’s about running the team you have perfectly. Sure it would be nice to have Lebron James and Dwyane Wade but they’re only good if they have the ball. They cannot both score on the same possession. So what I’m saying is that if you can use each piece on your team and put each person in positions where they can score, they can be just as effective as having Dwyane Wade or Lebron James. Sure Lebron and Wade can score in all sorts of ways. But each player has a strength. They don’t have to be able to score in ways that Lebron and Wade can. They just have to be able to score the way they are capable of and it’s up to the coach to put them in those positions. With that said, I think Larry Drew will be great and we will see a team like we have never seen before. Not a team with PIECES, but a team that is ONE PIECE.
bartbuzz
July 3rd, 2010
2:49 pm
I hope he leaves. He’s a crybaby and falls short when it really counts. Good riddance I say.
Bones
July 3rd, 2010
2:55 pm
i_am_soulstar,
Two years ago, I would loved the trade idea that you mentioned above with Tyson Chandler. However, at this point, I’m not too sure how effective Tyson Chandler really is. He seems to have really declined after his nagging injuries. Also, I think his time with Chris Paul made him look better than he really was. In principle, he appears to be a pretty decent defender, but that’s actually still in the air. In terms of offense though, he doesn’t bring much at all. Aside from lobs and occasional put backs, he doesn’t bring much to the table. He’s a terrible shooter, and doesn’t really have any post moves. I get the feeling that defenses would sag off of him most of the time if he were here.
The positives are his size and athleticism, however, I’m skeptical of how much that’s declined due to injuries. Also, the fact that Larry Brown had the 80 year old Theo Ratliff starting over Chandler really makes me wonder. Defensively, Chandler is at least better than Zaza, but sadly Zaza may even be a better offensive player than him at this point, and possibly a better rebounder as well.
Bubba G
July 3rd, 2010
2:56 pm
Hope JJ leaves. Go Hawks. Go get a big Center!!!!
Mr. Merlot
July 3rd, 2010
2:58 pm
On the subject of potential centers to acquire, who would you guys rather see in Atlanta: Tyson Chandler or Andris Biedrins? They both have contracts for similar amounts, so if money is out of the discussion, who do you feel is the superior player?
doc
July 3rd, 2010
3:03 pm
maybe joe is checking out if the grass is greener on the other side and maybe even working a sign and trade, if it is to his advantage.
i_am_soulstar
July 3rd, 2010
3:06 pm
N-trigue,
I agree, but what sucks is that the direction the Hawks will go in will be based on whether or not Joe signs, so that’s why there waiting on him to make a move. Unfortunate circumstances though.
i_am_soulstar
July 3rd, 2010
3:07 pm
they’re waiting*
northcyde
July 3rd, 2010
3:10 pm
cdog
July 3rd, 2010
2:31 pm
joe johnson is a good basketball player but for whats best for him and the hawks in the long run would be a sign and trade deal to another team.it would benefit both parties.the hawks will never win a championship with johnson as their go to guy because he’s not mentally tough enough to handle that role especially in the playoffs.he’s not d. wade, kobe, pierce, or even steve nash when crunch time comes.the best thing he should do is go to another team.the hawks need to get more talented and better as a team.thats not going to happen with johnson
******************
So cdog . . . the Hawks get more talented by signing and trading JJ for role players, and let Smoove and Al try to be the go-to guys? Is that the plan?
If and when JJ agrees to sign this contract, you can at least trade him in the future for a player at or near the same level as he is. But right now, we’re going to get little value back from a JJ sign and trade.
If we completely let him go, we get back nothing, and we can’t add a star via free agency because we don’t have enough money to do it. And free agents have traditionally not wanted to come to Atlanta.
If you look at what Boston did, they kept Paul Pierce ( a guy that the fans started to turn on after he couldn’t keep them at playoff level as the star player ) . . but traded everybody around Pierce to acquire Garnett and Allen.
We could do that with JJ. Try to trade everybody around JJ, for legit star players that may possibly be in bad situations. Or we could keep JJ in the mix for a year or two, and trade him either for expiring contracts . . or for more talent.
Some of you are simply not thinking through all of the scenarios that can go down, and is just responding off of emotion.
It’s 4th of July weekend. JJ isn’t making a decision before Monday and probably Tuesday. Enjoy that barbeque tomorrow, and see if JJ is ready to make a decision sometime next week.
dap01
July 3rd, 2010
3:10 pm
Joe will not go anywhere without a S&T. He is in love with the next $. All of the FA’s will be Ho’s forthe $.
If I was the Hawks, I would take charge of the negiotiations and press the issue. Jo’s personality is beginning to rub me the wrong way. Either sign or leave.
dap01
July 3rd, 2010
3:10 pm
Joe will not go anywhere without a S&T. He is in love with the next $. All of the FA’s will be Ho’s forthe $.
If I was the Hawks, I would take charge of the negiotiations and press the issue. Jo’s personality is beginning to rub me the wrong way. Either sign or leave.
northcyde
July 3rd, 2010
3:23 pm
Mr. Riley
July 3rd, 2010
12:38 pm
with all the FA’s floating around, why isn’t the ownership making a play for other players???…man this team is hopeless….better yet, LEAVE JJ, WE DONT NEED YOUR SERVICES….okay ownership, lets make a play for lebron and rudy gay…and throw in Dirk for good measure..
************
(( shaking my head ))
Rudy Gay has already committed to Memphis, because they could give him more money than anybody. And Dirk really has no intentions of leaving Dallas, and opted out so that he could restructure his deal. And Lebron does not want to come to Atlanta.
People just don’t want to accept reality around here.
If we had the cap space to make a play for one of those guys, we’d definitely be doing it. But we don’t have the cap space to do so. That’s why those teams are visiting other places, and not mentioning the Atlanta Hawks.
The comments about the Hawks making a play for these other free agents are simply getting silly. Some of you just flat out refuse to understand the situation here.
IT’S JJ OR BUST . . . and it’s always been that.
All I know is if JJ doesn’t come back . . you same people wishing him gone, better show up to the games next season. DON’T ABANDON THIS TEAM if they happen to slip down in the standings without JJ
northcyde
July 3rd, 2010
3:24 pm
80% of you fans aren’t committed enough to the Hawks, to continue to support them, if we lose JJ. So let’s keep it real around here.
tony
July 3rd, 2010
3:30 pm
guesswhosthis, you nailed it sir. I’ve been saying this for a while now that JJ should play sf because he won’t dribble as much and he will be difficult to defend. If he move to sf I don’t care if they pay him $121 million but if they insist on letting him play the 2 JJ must go.
O'Brien
July 3rd, 2010
3:33 pm
northcyde,
Its not worth responding to some of these over-emotional or irrational bloggers. I’m just glad they are not the GM
northcyde
July 3rd, 2010
3:41 pm
The infamous Game 3 interview . . . this is why people are mad at JJ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u01z0bbfPXg
cp
July 3rd, 2010
3:42 pm
Like I said before, the blog is absolutely terrible during the summer time. I don’t know what it is about the heat that brings so many uninformed fans to this blog.
northcyde
July 3rd, 2010
3:43 pm
You’re right O’Brien. LOL . . if they were the GM, we’d traded JJ for Chris Duhon by now.
Grandad
July 3rd, 2010
3:54 pm
Cliff;
I majored in it
-’cause-
I do !
Neki Ecko
July 3rd, 2010
3:57 pm
I think that it is the Media is doing all of this just to stress out the fans and try to make themselves to be the first to report anything (no offsense, MC. You are doing a good job)
With the rumors of trades with pieces like Bibby, Chills, and Marvin out in the market, Spirit can try to bring the pieces and go over the luxury tax to bring the pieces to complete in the upgraded East. If this is the case, then JJ is acting as a agent for real change. I can understand his thoughts and respect him for them.
I think that a trade has been made or going to be made after J.J. signing
guesswhosthis
July 3rd, 2010
4:02 pm
I hope Joe Johnson signs with the Hawks. Even though the price is a little high for him, he is the best player we can get. I think the Hawks will be better off moving Joe Johnson over to small forward and start Jordan Crawford at shooting guard because Marvin Williams is our weakest link on the team. If you can trade Marvin for a good piece then do so, but if not, then put him on the bench. And for everyone trying to get a perfect center, there are 30 teams in the NBA and only a few centers that would fit that criteria so our chances are slim. Instead of trying to build the perfect team, chances are it’s not going to happen. If it was that simple to build a perfect team, then you would have 30 perfect teams. The most important thing is coaching. A coach needs to be able to make the most of the pieces he has. Mike Woodson was the worst at that. Instead of putting players in position to make them effective, he put them in positions where they were the least effective. So I think Larry Drew will do wonders with this team. If you watch the international teams that beat the US teams, they were clearly outmatched talent wise. But they put each player in a position where they would be the most effective and thats how they won. And basically, all international teams run offenses that have a lot of player movement and ball movement. I think that’s what Larry Drew will bring to this team. Also how many of those international centers would start in the NBA? I would say none. So it’s not about having the perfect team. It’s about running the team you have perfectly. Sure it would be nice to have Lebron James and Dwyane Wade but they’re only good if they have the ball. They cannot both score on the same possession. So what I’m saying is that if you can use each piece on your team and put each person in positions where they can score, they can be just as effective as having Dwyane Wade or Lebron James. Sure Lebron and Wade can score in all sorts of ways. But each player has a strength. They don’t have to be able to score in ways that Lebron and Wade can. They just have to be able to score the way they are capable of and it’s up to the coach to put them in those positions. With that said, I think Larry Drew will be great and we will see a team like we have never seen before. Not a team with PIECES, but a team that is ONE PIECE.
ryan
July 3rd, 2010
4:07 pm
Well this is good news i think the Hawks would have been a lottery team if he signed some where else i know most people wanted him gone but it would be devastating if he would have bolted.
bigdave
July 3rd, 2010
4:13 pm
how could you not expect this.. the media will take anything and run with it. this is pure dramatics.. in a soap opera free agency that includes the leagues biggest “characters”. Joe just getting his shine on.. let the man be Hollywood a min..
doc
July 3rd, 2010
4:16 pm
northcyde some folks dont really comprehend the reality of signing vs not signing jj. unfortunately the word on the street is that some owners didnt understand either. heh heh
anyway beautifully described with your comment here that it almost needs to be reitterated at the top of each blog:
” the Hawks get more talented by signing and trading JJ for role players, and let Smoove and Al try to be the go-to guys? Is that the plan?
If and when JJ agrees to sign this contract, you can at least trade him in the future for a player at or near the same level as he is. But right now, we’re going to get little value back from a JJ sign and trade.
nicely put and simply put but i dstill think it goes over their heads!
If we completely let him go, we get back nothing, and we can’t add a star via free agency because we don’t have enough money to do it. And free agents have traditionally not wanted to come to Atlanta.”
cant say how many times i have said the similar remarks and i was i guy who said last year he shouldnt get a cent over 15 mil. that was before i saw how things were stacking in his negotiator’s favor and what would happen if he left. we need this asset now and in the future, iot may be a long time before we get a similar chip to play that we have in our possession.
i am too old of a fan to watch us blow it up again and start over, been waiting 53 years for the hawks to repeat as nba champs.
drmaryb
July 3rd, 2010
4:25 pm
DP
If not Joe, then who? Is there Someone from your fantasy list who will play for the
8M Cap Space available, or the 6M MLE, or the 2M Bi-annual?
If not, then what is your point. It’s all relative to what we CAN do – not Can’t do.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 3rd, 2010
4:41 pm
“And you need to know the history of the franchise. We are NOT guaranteed to get anybody that’s available, to sign for the MLE. Remember last year? The reason why we had to settle for Joe Smith and Jason Collins, is because NONE of those other big man free agents wanted to come here.”
Uh… actually, if I’m not mistaken, the Hawks began targeting Joe Smith in mid-July and took a full month to actually sign him. As far as I know they didn’t even extend offers to any of these other big man free agents, because by the time Rick Sund decided who he liked, other teams had acted quickly and signed their targeted big men already.
You may have an inferiority complex about the Hawks, but free agents — especially below-max free agents — really only care about joining teams in which either a) they get big minutes or b) they have a legitimate shot at a ring. For crying out loud, the latest reports have the Nets — whose history is just as checkered as the Hawks — in the lead for landing LeBron James.
Grandad
July 3rd, 2010
4:42 pm
-Cliff-
As Falkbeer would say:
I choose to decline.
Therefore, I counter.
Ahh, poetry.
Arcane sometimes.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 3rd, 2010
4:45 pm
“On the subject of potential centers to acquire, who would you guys rather see in Atlanta: Tyson Chandler or Andris Biedrins? They both have contracts for similar amounts, so if money is out of the discussion, who do you feel is the superior player?”
Definitely Biedrins. Both are injury prone, Chandler has the advantage of having an expiring contract, but Biedrins is definitely the more skilled player on both ends of the floor.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 3rd, 2010
4:56 pm
Today’s Free Agency Dime on ESPN
For those of you who are wondering why the Hawks offered Joe the max, read item #3. Replace “John Salmons” with “Joe Johnson”, and “Bucks” with “Hawks”.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 3rd, 2010
4:58 pm
“One of the oddities of the salary cap is that there is a certain level of payroll where it makes a lot of sense to overpay your own players because there is no conceivable way to replace them.”
darrell starks
July 3rd, 2010
5:09 pm
NORTHCYDE posted 3:41 p.m thanks bro i can’t believe i over reacted from what joe said wow!!!!!!!! you see how media always make you look bad as a person, the only thing joe said is that we can care less if the fans show up, in other word he saying we as a team has 2 show up and if the fans don’t show up we still have a job 2 do, there was no outburst towards the fan the ? was ask and he answer it.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
cdog
July 3rd, 2010
5:14 pm
northclyde, you are right in what you say but think about it.if joe johnson remains with the team, any chance of aquiring a quality center goes down the drain.we will be stuck with some more players who will never contribute( LIKE randolph morris and collins)we have enough 2S AND 3S TO REPLACE JOHNSON PLUS IF RICK SUND HAD ANY SENSE OR CARING INSTEAD US HEARING A WADE, LEBRON, DAVID LEE OR AMARIE STOUDERMIERE GOING TO NEW YORK, CHICAGO, PLACES WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH, THEY WOULD BE COMING HERE BUT BECAUSE OF SUND AND ASG GROUP, WE WILL BE STUCK WITH JOHNSON AND HIS PLAYOFF FAILURES AND NO OTHER PLAYERS ADDED TO HELP THE HAWKS BECAUSE OF THE SO CALLED SALARY CAP.SO IN THE LONG RUN, DO YOU STILL WANT JOE JOYNSON AND THE SAME RESULTS OR DO YOU WANT TO ADD PLAYERS THATS GOING TO WIN FOR YOU DOWN THE ROAD CONSISTENTLY.THERE ARE PLAYERS OUT THERE WHO WOULD HELP THE HAWKS GET TO THE CHAMPIONSHIPS BUT SUND IS NOT AN AGGRESSIVE GM.IF RICK SUND KEEPS THE SAME PERSONNEL WHICH I BELIEVE, WILL HAPPEN, WE WILL GET THE SAME RESULTS WE HAD THE PAST SEASONS, OUSTED IN THE PLAYOFFS.IF SUND WAS GOING TO ADD A CENTER AND KEEP JOHNSON THAT MIGHT WORK BUT I HAVE OBSERVED SUND THE PAST THREE YEARS,HE’S NOT GOING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.HE SEEMS TO CAR MORE ABOUT JUST PLAYING .500 BALL, FILLING PHILLIPS ARENA AND GETTING BEAT IN THE SECOND ROUND.THEN HE BLAMES THE HEAD COACH FOR WHAT IS CLEARLY HIS FAILURE TO IMPROVE THE HAWKS.
mc
July 3rd, 2010
5:15 pm
i think the hot are pressing to hard for jj. they should sign an trade joe to the bull are ny and offer denver josh smith and marvin for nene and jr smith
darrell starks
July 3rd, 2010
5:17 pm
Media always take the smallest comment and turn it around and make it somthing out of nothing thats why cameras are important because of little situation like this, all the commotion about nothing, be careful what you say because at the end it could cause you.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
mc
July 3rd, 2010
5:17 pm
if not that josh and marvin and 1rd pick for carmelo and birdman