Atlanta Hawks: J.J. squeezed out of the big summit?
Who's missing from this picture? (slamdunkcentral.com)
ESPN.com reported there was a free-agent summit in Miami over the weekend involving LeBron, D-Wade and Bosh.
Other reports say the meeting didn’t happen and others that say it couldn’t have happened because James was in New York and Wade was in Las Vegas and Chicago over the weekend.
Now I’m watching ESPN respond to those reports by saying that the three players did too meet in Miami!
All of this comes after Stephen A. Smith reported that James and Bosh would join Wade in Miami.
It’s all very confusing. But if there was a meeting in some city somewhere, and if James and Bosh really are considering headed to Miami to play with D-Wade (it seems to be a real possibility), the one thing missing from all of this is Joe Johnson.
Remember, Wade had said J.J. would be included in the summit and now it turns out he wasn’t invited (if in fact there was a meeting). What that would mean for J.J. is that he’s not included in this free agent master plan orchestrated by LeBron and Wade.
What it means for the Hawks is if those three guys really do end up on the same team, that would leave more teams with top-tier cap space than there are top-tier free agents. If the Hawks really are hoping to avoid offering J.J. the Bird max salary of about $119 million, and there has been some resistance to doing so, then this is not the scenario they’d want to see (and that’s not even considering what it would mean for the balance of power in the Eastern Conference).
Of course, all of this is assuming there really was a meeting, and the Big Three free agents really would play for the same team. It’s not even Thursday yet and it’s hard to know what’s true.
MC
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Truth-Serum
June 30th, 2010
12:15 am
* the only way they are going any higher
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
12:25 am
Why is it so hard to understand that the ball is in Joe’s court? Plenty of teams want him (are we surprised?) and if he wants out, he’ll get OUT.
Trading him should be about getting something back, as opposed to nothing, when he decides he wants to be elsewhere.
If he is cool with staying, then give him his contract. We all know that’s how it’s going to go down anyway, if he stays.
Let’s just hope that Larry Drew can help him back to being what he needs to be.
What Joe needs is to be the type of guy he was in Phoenix. You know, the guy shooting 46% from the field and 47% from the arc. The guy catching and shooting. The guy destroying people one on one, instead of dribbling the ball for 15 or more seconds, then hoisting a shot that should only belong in a game or H-O-R-S-E. If Drew can help that happen, then we’ll see Joe return to Phoenix form. Maybe even ‘06-’07 form (25 ppg, 47% FG).
I’d like that.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
12:30 am
Truth Serum,
Actually, I think the impact free agents don’t want to be here because this ownership group isn’t known for spending large gobs of money, outside of Joe Johnson. As for a center, we would have to settle for a “decent” traditionally-sized center. If we’re keeping Joe, we’d have to trade Josh, as his value (and contract value) will be the best trading chip. Trading Horford won’t get us anywhere, as he only makes about $4 million or so, and we’d have to give up probably another starter for a good starting center.
And I mean a GOOD one. We can’t get anywhere with a traditional center unless said center is good enough to hang on the same level as Dwight Howard, Yao Ming, and the other top centers in the League. Otherwise, waste of money.
If Sund and the ASG get their act together, they might end up with a Brendan Haywood. Everybody else is hanging onto big men that are worth something. Those that get traded are either not as good as you think, or the team on the other side of the trade is giving up some serious talent. Prime example is Samuel Dalembert. The guy blocks all the shots in the world, but he has some issues. That’s why his a$$ got traded for Spencer freakin’ Hawes and Andres “I haven’t met a shot I don’t like” Noccioni, LOL….
Grandad
June 30th, 2010
12:39 am
-Hatter-
In reference to your 12:00 mid-nite post;
check out my 2:26 PM from this afternoon.
Now as far as your language:
I’m not chastising you,
-but-
cursing shows a lack of vocabulary.
I’m well aware of just how intelligent you are.
Your vocab is fine & dandy.
let everyone else see the real TS and become a legit
contributor *(sp)*[intentional].
Your basketball accumen is improving.
Your statistical analysis is ship shape.
Now, my job is to try to enlighten you to:
“The Secret”.
Now, I hope you enjoy my 2:26 PM post from
earlier today. [kinda silly but maybe you chuckle]
Evenin’ TS.
Grandad
June 30th, 2010
12:41 am
Co-Sign…Big Ray
Najeh Davenpoop
June 30th, 2010
12:42 am
“Maybe even ‘06-’07 form (25 ppg, 47% FG). ”
For that to happen, he needs to start driving to the hoop and getting fouled like he did that year, when he averaged 5.5 FT attempts per game (a career high).
Ideally, he should average about 7.
The inability to draw fouls, more than anything else, is what separates Joe from the elite swingmen in the league.
Truth-Serum
June 30th, 2010
12:46 am
Its nice to see you not get emotionally discharge when a comment in made about the hawks need to upgrade the 5 spot.
I think you have a valid argument when you talk about trade scenario’s, however, I dont agree with you position that any center who’s worth having is being kept by the team. I dont think sund is has enough basketball intelligence or business savvy to make the Hawks (or any team for that matter) a front line team capable of winning it all. I know you like to blame ASG for S.U.N D. but the bottom line is we arent going any where JJ or not with out a center. Trades have been and can be made. I tired of hearing the cop-outs for why we did not make an EFFORT to get this center or that center so we are better there for with out ANY CENTER.
This is wheel and deal season. Either we have a player in the GM position or we dont. No excuses or cop outs. Team will be passing us base on there draft and free agent acquisitions. Like it or not Woodson got us to 3rd seed and 53 so the bar has been set. Its time to Rise Up!
Truth-Serum
June 30th, 2010
12:46 am
* Blu Ray
O'Brien
June 30th, 2010
12:47 am
Truth Serum,
The Horford comment that stands out to me, was when he said “he needs help down low”. That should speak loud and clear to Rick Sund, because Horford is the guy next in line for a big contract. So when his deal comes up, he could be tempted by a team that will pay him the max AND let him play PF.
Ray,
I disagree. I think if we’re keeping Joe, we need to trade Jamal. Jamal is an expiring contract, and do we really want to be in a position where he can walk away next year and we get nothing in return?
Also, if we have a third team all NBA SG, I dont want our best bench player and SMOY to also play SG. Especially when Mo Evans and Jordan Crawford can do decent jobs at backup. Our bench is too reliable on one guy. Trade Jamal for a big is my opinion.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
12:48 am
Najeh
Agreed. I actually posted the comparisons on the fan blog from ‘06-’07 til now. Perhaps if he sticks around and Larry Drew’s offense is as advertised, we might see more of that.
Grandad
June 30th, 2010
12:48 am
Another source, today, used by me (G-dad):
Dallas Mavericks.com, by Mike Fisher
Najeh Davenpoop
June 30th, 2010
12:49 am
“So when his deal comes up, he could be tempted by a team that will pay him the max AND let him play PF.”
Until Al starts scoring 20 points per game, he’s not getting a max deal from anyone. Right now, he’d be in line for a deal similar to what Josh got.
bigdave
June 30th, 2010
12:50 am
Big Ray..
the ball is in in the hands of Sund and ASG first, they have to show the commitment. then the decision would be on Joe.. dribble or shoot.
is it not correct to assume that the only way Joe considers a return if he is offered max with that 6th year.. if that doesnt happen, he never got the ball..
Truth-Serum
June 30th, 2010
12:53 am
cursing shows a lack of vocabulary.
I’m well aware of just how intelligent you are.
Your vocab is fine & dandy.
let everyone else see the real TS and become a legit
contributor *(sp)*[intentional].
A) Ive been contributing long before you were here
B) You may not like what I say or how I say it, or when I say how I say what I say….the point is ask me if I give a FCK? what you think.
C)Did I say FCK you Yet?
Let me do so now FCKYOU!
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
12:55 am
Truth Serum ,
Last I looked, you really couldn’t gauge how a person is really feeling just by observing what they type, LOL!
On a more serious note, the ASG hired Sund, so what do you want me to say?
As far as acquiring a center to your liking, how can you say that deals can be done, there are no excuses? Yes, deals can be done, but it’s not as simple as picking up the phone and saying “hey, give me your starting-caliber center, and I’ll give you what I feel like giving you.” I understand that there’s no excuse for a lack of effort. What are your ideas as far as acquiring such a player? Who should we go after, and how should we get him? What details will be involved? Curious on your thoughts.
I’ll give you one of mine: If Memphis were willing to do it, I’d be okay with trading Horford for Marc Gasol. Maybe they’d be okay with it since Horford is more athletic and if they want a tall shot-blocker to play some minutes at the 5, they could use Hasheem Thabeet. Gasol is a legit starting center who put up almost identical stats as Horford (oddly enough). He’s 7′1″ and 260 lbs.
Or, I’d trade Josh Smith to Golden State for Andris Biedrins and Azubuike (or however you spell his damn name). Biedrins is a legit double double center who stands about 6′11″/ 7′0″ and about 245 lbs.
What are your scenarios?
Grandad
June 30th, 2010
12:57 am
bigdave
Don’t trust Sund or ASG to move quickly.
How is it that the whole city of Dallas knows
Cuban is in LA waitin’ on Joe to arrive.
Is Sund [& or ASG] gonna send their offer by,
Pony Express or carrier pigeon.
bigdave
June 30th, 2010
12:59 am
Grandad..
then we lose Joe. i just dont see it any other way.. at some point the Hawks must be more pro active vs their reactive approach.. from personnel moves to the philosophies on the court..
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:02 am
Bigdave
I disagree. Joe is a somewhat hot commodity. If he doesn’t want to be here, then any amount of money/committment won’t be sufficient. He’s not hurting for suitors, as we can see. Didn’t the Hawks offer him a contract that he turned down already? It was a formality, and it was the most they could offer at the time (it would have been an extension), but it was an offer. Is that not a committment?
is it not correct to assume that the only way Joe considers a return if he is offered max with that 6th year
Okay, I hear you on that. But the media is reporting exactly that in some circles. And Joe turning down the extension offer is supposed to make us assume….what? I think we all know why he turned it down. Because waiting until his current contract expires was more lucrative. The offered extension had a limit – 4 years. He turned it down so he could wait until a 5 year or 6 year deal would be available. So maybe assuming that he’d prefer a six year deal isn’t so far-fetched. Any way, it’s not MY assumption. It’s what is being reported. Look at MC’s article, it’s right there.
Truth-Serum
June 30th, 2010
1:02 am
Yea grandad, I read your little escapade into bestiality.
I heard a camel & a giraffe had sex.
They produced an off-spring called a;
“carafe”
and yeah I know about your activities related to the link below. NO I dont find them humors. In fact I think you should get some help!
http://www.ajc.com/news/cops-owner-had-to-556915.html
O'Brien
June 30th, 2010
1:04 am
Najeh,
Even at $10 – $12 mil, Al might want to play PF, so if there is a team that wants him there, he might be willing to go.
Ray,
I would trade Jamal Crawford and another piece for Tyson Chandler. Unfortunately, I dont think Charlotte would go for it because they already have Stephen Jackson.
I also liked Najeh’s proposal. Crawford and draft pick to Portland for Pryzbilla and Rudy Fernandez.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:05 am
Nobody can offer Joe anything for the next 23 hours. I’m guessing Sund and Co. will be in L.A. by then, if they aren’t already.
But hey, I wrote about urgency on the part of the Hawks in the Fan Blog prior to the most recent one. It’s what the entire blog post was about. Hawks gotta move fast, even if Joe wants out, whether it’s orchestrating a palatable S&T, or simply figuring out how to spend the $$ money left over from his absence (and I think a trade or two would also be necessary by then).
Truth-Serum
June 30th, 2010
1:07 am
*humorous
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:07 am
O’brien ,
I find it to be damning evidence that Horford talks about needing help down low. Obviously Josh and Zaza aren’t cutting it, eh?
As for yours and Najeh’s trade proposals, I would be okay with either one.
Grandad
June 30th, 2010
1:08 am
C’mon Hatter, now you done went & spoiled
a nice conversation.
I realize how long you’ve been here.
Man, I was just tryin’ to help you out.
-&-
I will continue.
-why-
’cause I like you.
No need to lash out.
Be civil.
You’re better than that,
even if try to act like your not.
re-read what I said.
“I wasn’t chastising you”.
Actually I enjoy most of what you say,
even when I disagree.
Otherwise, why would I bother.
Your message gets lost sometimes.
That’s all.
However, your message to me was not lost.
I hope my reply was not lost…either.
Now, I hope you feel somewhat better.
eve, TS.
michael
June 30th, 2010
1:08 am
who gives a #@$%-get rid of jj and find another solution.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:12 am
Truth Serum ,
Per my 12:55 post, you gonna rap with me on this “get a center” thing, or are you gonna cuss Grandad off to bed?
Grandad
June 30th, 2010
1:12 am
Hatter,Hatter,Hatter,Hatter,Hatter,Hatter,Hatter.
bigdave
June 30th, 2010
1:16 am
Big Ray..
i think we are saying the same thing.. so im not sure if i see your contention..
my point is there is no way Joe returns to the Hawks if they either fail to act quickly on a max deal or do not offer the max check..
so at this stage in the game its not up to Joe yet. it was when they offered him an extension months ago, but he did what we all would do. the Hawks knew what time it was when that took place. so either they feel Joe is their guy and put the check where their mouth is or they dont.. @ that point Joe has to decide if Atlanta is where he wants to be.
Tyler perry's pajamas
June 30th, 2010
1:17 am
Ray
You asked him to think so no he is not going to answer you and you should know that by now.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:21 am
Bigdave
I hear you. All I’m saying is there’s a possibility Joe wants to go, max contract or not. He wanted to leave Phoenix when he came here, and he asked them to not bother matching any offer that was coming his way. Yeah the Hawks have to make an offer at 12:01 a.m. Thursday morning. No doubt.
But I think it’s irresponsible to think that a max contract is all it takes to get him to stay. Ask Toronto, whose GM (Colangelo) is now publicly quoted as saying Bosh is likely gone from the Raptors come July 1st. I bet they were/are planning on offering a max contract as well….
Truth-Serum
June 30th, 2010
1:21 am
I see where you are with this Ray. I agree with you on principle. I like the Gasol traded but Im not looking for a double double as a measuring stick. There were 62 players who had 10 or more games with that stat. 10 points and 10 rebound is all it takes.
I again would like to see a physical presence in the middle who can block and alter shots there by forcing the other team to become a jump shooting team. Its not just about Howard. Its about competing at the highest level which means we HAVE to be strong at the rack. I dont think we need a great scorer at the 5 as much as we need a stopper. Would love it to have a Dekimbe Mutombo type.
I will just leave it like this. Believe it or or not. Bynum can be had, Amare(about as good a defender as Al but his offense would change the dynamics of the game.)
Here a list of shot blocker. Which do you think is available and would be a good fit?
4
Brendan Haywood , DAL-WAS
77 30.6 158 209 2.05 3.22 .76
5
Samuel Dalembert , PHI
82 25.9 151 252 1.84 3.41 .6
6
Brook Lopez , NJN
82 36.9 139 251 1.7 2.2 .55
7
Kendrick Perkins , BOS
78 27.6 132 219 1.69 2.94 .6
8
JaVale McGee , WAS
60 16.1 101 122 1.68 5.01 .83
9
Roy Hibbert , IND
81 25.1 131 285 1.62 3.09 .46
10
Marc Gasol , MEM
69 35.8 109 254 1.58 2.12 .43
11
Joakim Noah , CHI
64 30.1 100 198 1.56 2.49 .5
12
Emeka Okafor , NOH
82 28.9 127 218 1.55 2.57 .58
13
Andrew Bynum , LAL
65 30.4 94 193 1.45 2.28 .49
14
Joel Przybilla , POR
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:22 am
But in the end, I agree with your last sentence. Assuming he hasn’t made up his mind already (which he probably really hasn’t, having not heard any official offers yet).
bigdave
June 30th, 2010
1:32 am
“All I’m saying is there’s a possibility Joe wants to go, max contract or not.”
this is a reality.. but the only way we know is if its offered. if ASG doesnt of no that he’s gone.. and they didnt do “whatever in our power to re-sign Joe”. which would be quite telling of what to expect for summers to come from our front office. saying one thing.. doing another..
“But I think it’s irresponsible to think that a max contract is all it takes to get him to stay.”
im not sure who believes that makes it a done deal. im certainly not saying that. though it is the 1st step in the order of operations.
bigdave
June 30th, 2010
1:35 am
*offer know
Grandad
June 30th, 2010
1:43 am
Hatter
if you would allow me the courtesy,
I would like to respond to your post.
“I again would like to see a physical presence in the middle who can block and alter shots there by forcing the other team to become a jump shooting team.”
I agree in total.
“I dont think we need a great scorer at the 5 as much as we need a stopper. Would love it to have a Dekimbe Mutombo type.”
Once again we agree.
Not that you care:
TS – mine & your only departure is on the value of Al
to the Team as a whole.
Now TS- Please Read:
I went back & re-read my 12:39 AM post.
“cursing shows a lack of vocabulary”.
Should have been in quotes,
as it was told to me,
many years ago. [A young cusser].
No disrespect intended.
It was not directed @ you,
however, I realize how it sounded.
g’nite.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:45 am
Truth Serum ,
Amare can be had for max money, but he won’t play the 5 (he refuses). It’s why Phoenix traded for Shaq. It’s why they tried Brian Skinner and Kurt Thomas before that. It’s why the went and got Channing Frye, but they ended up playing Robin Lopez at the 5 (Brook Lopez’s less talented twin brother).
Haywood is definitely available, and I want Sund to sign his butt this offseason, regardless of what happens with Joe Johnson. I think Pryzbilla can be had in trade, now that Camby is in Portland. Then again, that might not be the case if Portland gets nervous about Oden and his injury-prone self. If he could stay healthy, the balance of power in the West would have already shifted. He’s bigger than Dwight Howard, if you know what I’m sayin’.
New Jersey is not giving up Brook Lopez. That would be stupid on their part. I don’t think their new Russian billionaire owner would go for that, nor would Avery Johnson. They drafted him as a lottery pick for one thing. For another, it won’t be long before he’s making the all-star team every year if he continues to progress, and his team can actually win some games.
I don’t know what it would take to get Andrew Bynum, but doing business with the Lakers could be quite costly. I don’t see him going anywhere. Why leave for the Hawks when you can play with the NBA champs?
Perkins probably won’t go anywhere anytime soon. Without him Boston has no center at all. And they need him to deal with Dwight in the East (Brook Lopez and Al Horford, too).
I’d like to add Javale McGee. I think he can be had, the Wiz are enamored of Andray Blatche anyway, meaning McGee may not get many minutes in Washington. I’d take him quick, offering Marvin or somebody.
Okafor can be had too, the Hornets want to get rid of him and his contract. But what would it cost us? He’s a stopper, but he’s no bigger than Al. Still, that’s all you want him for: blocked shots and rebounds. And some dunks.
Dalembert can be had too, and we saw that when Philly traded him. But I think Sacramento actually wants him for the same reason we’d want him. He’s probably not available unless we overpay in trade.
I’d LOVE to have Joakim Noah, but I think Chicago only parts with him if it nets them a superstar like Lebron James or somebody. They really like him up there, and I don’t blame them. That, and if he’s gone, their only real center is Brad Miller, who happens to be a 34 year old free agent that might get you about 25 blocks all season long.
Roy Hibbert? Roy Hibbert! Now I KNOW you playin’ with me. The same Roy Hibbert that Al Horford destroyed each time we played the Pacers? Nah, man. Indy can keep Roy. He’s big, but he’s softer than Charmin toilet paper.
The reason why I mentioned double doubles is because I would want something like that from my starting center. Maybe the points don’t mean as much, but the rebounds do. I don’t want a center who blocks shots but can’t rebound. That’s all I’m saying there. I think our best bets are Haywood, McGee, Pryzbilla, and maybe Okafor. They would all fit, though Okafor is a guy who probably has to start or he might catch an attitude.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:46 am
bigdave ,
I agree. The ASG bothers me. A lot.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2010
1:46 am
Anyway, catch y’all later. It’s getting late and it’s been a long day.
Truth-Serum
June 30th, 2010
1:57 am
Fair enough. Those are fair assessments. I dont disagree. However I think the center we get is a starter not a back up to the guy who is the reason we are seeking a center in the first place. Guess we got to wait and see how it pans out, but if you want Joe to stay or any impact player to consider coming here you first got to prove you mean business in the paint.
Grandad
June 30th, 2010
2:16 am
Now TS, I know you read my post.
Are you really gonna stay mad.
I don’t know if Sautee;
will let me back in “the Bubba Crew”.
Woodys No Goody
June 30th, 2010
2:19 am
The big three met without Johnson because he don’t belong mentioned in the same group.
Woodys No Goody
June 30th, 2010
2:20 am
I smell a 2005-2006 season coming on for the Hawks.
RaJaH
June 30th, 2010
4:59 am
How many centers are expected to protect the paint and guard out on the perimeter at the same time? I’m still not comprehending.
terrell
June 30th, 2010
7:16 am
My thoughts on FA
JJ stays in Atlanta($$$)
Bosh goes to Chicago(they’ve been looking for a post threat for 10 years)
Boozer joins Wade in Miami(more of a Riley type player than Christina Bosh)
Lebron in a SHOCKER signs with the Clippers(before you laugh, Bdiddy/Lebron/Griffen/Kaaman and whoever at sg will instantly become a contender out West. And LJ the businessman will soon become the King of Hollywood when Kobe retires. Imagine LJ vs. Kobe at Staples. Can you say opening day on ABC?
Just my 2 cents of course.
MsDee
June 30th, 2010
7:23 am
WOW..I like that terrell..that WOULD be something if Kobe & LeBron could play each other 4 times vs only 2..wow!!
GT
June 30th, 2010
7:27 am
Seems this would be a motivator. JJ not invited but Bosh invited means the open market is not red hot for JJ. It also reminds us how under productive Hewitt is to have burn through two talents and have so little to show for it. It is not that Hewitt can’t coach the big man, it is he can’t get point guards to run an offense. LeBron, and D-Wade can run an offense and score, though it would be interesting to see their egos on the same team. JJ and Bosh are more post up men and certainly not setting up a table on the offense.
drmaryb
June 30th, 2010
7:41 am
Fight Party!
WOW!
I go nite-nite and the ”Boyz to Men” fite-fite? I have no skin in the game, but my Grand-Daddy
got verbally abused and iit was NOT in jest and it was NOT in the best of blog interest.
Disturbing the Peace – has to be a crime and Truth – Serum must do the time!
The educator took the high road, but Truth – Serum was wearing “Apple Bottom Jeans & Shawty got Low … Low … Low … Low … Low!”
Truth – Serum, I ain’t no Beef with you, but please apologize to my Grand-Daddy?
His feelings are hurt and he really likes blogging with the Hatter.
Choose Love! It feels better than Hate.
Now, we are all riled up about our team and IF Joe will re-sign or not. Give it 16 hours and 19 minutes and we can all move on.
Play Nice.
Rondo
Good Morning!
Dan
June 30th, 2010
7:49 am
I just dont see it? Over the years its always been “show me the money!!!” “The team doesnt show me any respect I am holding out to renew my contract.” ” I need to do what is best for me and my family”
OK we heard this over and over again? So why would players now decide to take less? To win a piece of tin championship trophy? I dont think so? I see these players resigning with their teams, sign and trade or whoever is willing to pay them the most money.
northcyde
June 30th, 2010
7:53 am
GT . . your post makes no sense whatsoever.
The reason why Bosh was invited, is because Bosh is a BIG. Ideally, a perimeter player like Lebron or Wade would rather be paired up with a scoring big, than with another scoring wing like JJ. But if they couldn’t play with a big, JJ would be their obvious running mate.
LOL @ the market isn’t red hot for JJ, yet he’s been the talk of the media for the last 3 – 5 days.
There’s a reason why just about every other team outside of Miami is knocking on JJ’s door these days. A lot of those teams either desperately need a high scoring guard, or a guy to compliment the big that they already have there.
This is why Mark Cuban is all over JJ right now. He can’t get Lebron or Wade, and with Dirk in the mix, he really has no use for Bosh or Boozer. JJ is even a higher priority than Amare in Dallas, because Dirk plays the 4, and they can use a high caliber 2 to play with Dirk.
People talk like Bosh is this superstar that carried his team to great heights. LOL . . Bosh has done no more than JJ, heck . . even less than JJ.
d.carter
June 30th, 2010
8:25 am
FIRE RICK SUND… Wash picks up 7ft pick and pop guy YI from the Nets for nothing and yet the Hawks sit around twiddling their thumbs instead of making a serious run at constructing a roster of guys who do different things… Oh i get it lets keep letting Josh shoot jumpers and AL playing with his back to the basket against guys who are waay bigger and stronger than him… that makes sense