Atlanta Hawks: Avery Johnson continues talks with Hawks as his other options dwindle

Bring em home Sund!

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SECOND!!!

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If Teague is going to be a starter next year, I’d feel a lot better with Avery or Mark Jackson coaching him…just sayin.

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Bsed on Sund’s reasoning to let woodson go, that he’d taken the Hwaks as far as he could, It would be hard to view Casey as an upgrade over Woody.

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Nside, Avery was a championship point guard. I think he would be a good fit for Teague too. I just think that he is just as much of an unknown as everyone else. I will say that he got the Mavs to play defense.

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Marc Stein from ESPN said we met with Avery today for the 2nd time this week. Good sign. Not that I want this guy, but you all think he’d want to sign Josh Howard?

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BRING IN AJ! TEAGUE WILL BE A BAD A*S PG IN 2 YEARS, AND TRADE MARVIN WILLIAMS FOR A $20 GIFT CARD! GO HAWKS!

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The way they defend….

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Has Dominique Wilkins ever been considered? When he and Bob called the hawks games, he knew just about all the problems hawks had. Dominique knew by how the hawks were playing if they would lose a game or win it. He knew the problems Joe Johnson and the hawks would have in the playoffs and was right on time. Dominique Wilkins would be a great assistant; I think it is about time he gets a chance if he wants it to prove himself.

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Screw D Wilkins. If he coaches the way he calls the game, then Hawks will suck big time. Steve Smith will make a better coach.

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Love Bob’s partner at the Dream game. Fell for her even before I saw her, just from her voice, and now I see her at halftime. Super cutie! Don’t even know her name!

Think that’s one reason I watch the WNBA. Pretty women!

How in hell did Candice fall for Shelden Williams? He must have caught her before she knew better. Shelden is a bum, while his wife is a star. Wow!

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No one cares about the Atlanta Dream. This is about the Atlanta HAWKS! We, the Hawks, will solve our own problems without the help of the Dream!

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I think Teague’s gonna be unique with the right coach

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Blast your face,

It would be more interesting to spar with you if you posted under your real name, or if that’s your real name, then you are a newbie not worthy of my time.

Hawks sucked when it mattered the most. I don’t care about Hawks right now until I see the coach they hire, and the players they get. So screw Hawks, and screw you too. The Dream are playing with more heart than the Hawks displayed in the playoffs, while showing great basketball skills, too!

Hawks had a 53 win season, but sucked in the playoffs, where it counted the most. You gonna justify that?

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nside hawkfan, are you kidding me about Mark Jackson?? That guy is a complete Jack Ass. I use to live in Indy and when he played for Indiana his attitude is the same as what u here on TV.. No thanks.. I’d rather take Avery Johnson.. I agree that Teague is our future but Mark Jackson is a joke and I think could and would discourage him with his gynormous ego!! Go Hawks..

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Excruciatingly boring or terrible things I would rather watch than an Atlanta Dream game:
1 Hockey
2 Something on WE
3 The home shopping network
4 Something on the spanish channel (I dont speak a word)
5 Anything by Tyler Perry

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my man woody, don’t sleep on Univision, Sabado Gigante’ is the sheeeeeeot

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Avery Gets pissed lol!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RjmjejukO0

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A Fans Mavs take on Avery’s firing in Dallas (WATCH THIS!! VERY INFORMATIVE!!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urQ3Dry1GIw&NR=1&feature=fvwp

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Yuck.

Think BIGGER, Hawks!

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stop playing games rick sund and hire avery johnson.you always suppose to hire the best man for a job.avery, by far, is the best man.

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How can any HC that has enough sense to realize:

(1) he needs to utilize his bench,

(2) he needs to make changes or adjustments and utilize strategy during gms when things aren’t working,

(3) he needs to rest his starters during gms,

(4) Bibby is an offensive and defensive liability and shouldn’t start,

(5) it’s a good idea, and long term benefit, to develop and utilize your rookies and bench,

(6) it’s far, far, far, far more effective and beneficial to make changes or adjustments than excuses,

(7) if you don’t know or give a damn about OFF, and your half court OFF is severely limited and one dimensional, you get outside input or assistance, not be considered a better HC than Mike Woodson?

It’s a rather odd, but AJohnson lost his job in part because he made changes that cost his team during the playoffs, and MWoodson lost his job in part because he refused to make any changes or adjustments, particularly during the playoffs.

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Mr. Strickland . . . if Teague doesn’t pan out under Avery or ( insert new coach ) . . will it be because Woody “took away his confidence”, or will it be because Teague just couldn’t handle playing PG on the NBA level?

( this question is open to everybody )

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Teague – 48 minutes 24pts 15assists

#dudeislegit #playhim

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RUN AND GUN

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I don’t care who gets hired.And I don’t care about the FANS!

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Celtics vs Lakers again.

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I am overrated. Just like so many before me.

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“Yeah theres definitly some changes that need to be made but i dont think Avery was one of them. He was a good coach and we got so many open shots under his play calling. Its not Avery’s fault that hardly anyone on our team can make those open easy shots.”

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This fascination over Avery Johnson that some have is quite perplexing. To be perfectly blunt, the man is a terrible post season coach as he’s presided over some of the greatest choke jobs in league memory. His greatest accomplishment as a coach is to blow a 2 – 0 lead in the NBA finals to the Miami heat, and this is after leading game 3 by 8 points with just a couple of minutes to play. Then he follows up the next two season by losing in the first round. The first of which he was a number one seed getting spanked by a number 8 seed.

If the Hawks want to upgrade coaching, Avery Johnson has clearly proved he doesn’t have the track record to do so. Stay as far away as you can from this fraud.

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Hey guys we did beat the Bucks.Only took seven games.

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I know basketball,and the Hawks need more than a new coach.

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What about me?

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Sorry Grandad,

Choking in three straight post seasons can’t be explained by just free throws….

The guy is simply not a top notch coach, and never will be…

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Dirk choked in one of those games in the final seconds at the FT line in I remeber correctly. Woulda put the mavs up 3-1 in the series’.

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Grandad, that’s my point. The next year Dallas completely dominated the NBA and had not only the best record in the West, but also the best record in the entire league. Then they proceeded to lose to the #8 seed in the first round, which is as big as a choke job as you can ever realize.

This is why I don’t want the Hawks to hire Johnson. He can win a lot of games in the regular season with superior talent, but once he’s in the post season, his coaching skills and in game tactics are completely exposed for what they are.

The Hawks would be better off going another direction then Avery Johnson because he simply can’t get it done when it matters the most.

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The Falcons got lucky when the big names turned them down. They took an unknown–Smitty–and it’s worked out well for them. Let’s not go for the name coach. Let’s go for the best match for our roster. I don’t think Avery Johnson is the best match. For one, he likes a more deliberate style of play. And two, he ruffles feathers easily–and we all know what a sensitive bird of prey Josh Smith is.

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If Johnson gets so much blame for his team losing to Miami in the Finals in ‘06, why doesn’t he get credit for beating the top-seeded Spurs and second-season Suns along the way?

The loss to the Warriors can’t really be justified, but to say Johnson is a terrible postseason coach is not accurate. He’s been a hit-or-miss postseason coach. He’s had some very big wins and some very bad losses.

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Sign and trade marvin 7mill and josh 11mill for lebron 19mill a year, and resign joe 14mill a year.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

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They say one of Avery’s best features is the respect he gets from all of his players. With players like SMOOVE we need a coach that the players respect, and one who will coach the Hawks to their strongest game; getting out on the fast break and slashing/driving to the hoop (like the Suns).

If Josh smith doesn’t blossom under our new coach, Sund needs to trade him and aquire a true center, moving Horford to power forward where he will be All-NBA without a doubt. Horford is the heart and soul of our team, should be our captain, and we must build around him.

Lastly, if we lose JJ, teague may thrive, particularly under Avery Johnson. But even if teague excels, we MUST aquire a player via. trade or a FA to replace the scoring that JJ provided. Salmons would be an excellent replacement. Get Salmons, and then get a big man to start OR to come off the bench like crawford did, possibly Kwame Brown, Carlos Boozer, Ilgauskis, or trade for Joel Pryzbilla or another hard nosed gritty rebounder/scorer to bang down low with Howard, Perkins, Big Baby, Varaejo, and Bogut.

With an effective big man (has to be a higher caliber player than Zaza), we can get over the hump. Without a true big man…it’s obvious we’ve gone as far as we can with a team as small as we are down low. (not sure where he’d fit but channing frye would be a huge addition for us)

FORMULA FOR SUCCESS: 1. GET AVERY, BYRON SCOTT OR THIBODEU. 2. RUN A FAST PACED SLASHING OFFENSE/GET ON THE FAST BREAK. 3. RESIGN JOE, OR REPLACE HIM WITH SALMONS OR ANOTHER SCORER. 4. SIGN A REBOUNDING, GRITTY, DECENT SCORING BIG MAN TO EITHER START OR COME OFF THE BENCH OFTEN.

Any problems with this fellas’?

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2010 HAWKS ROSTER COACH AVERY
STARTER TEAGUE, JOE, LEBRON, HORFORD, ZAZA
BENCH JAMAL, MOE, CHILL, HARRINGTON, JOEL,
RESERVE BIBBY, SOLOMON ALABI
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

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Bigs on the radar:
*Jerome Jordan 7-1 / 7-6 w-span / 245
will drop due to 24 yrs. old / NBA ready, not a project.

*Ryan Richards 6-11 / 230 / England /

*Dex Pittman 6-11 / 303 / 20% body fat / 7-6 w-span
10.5 hand width [largest] / 60% career fg shooter(college)
honor student, academic all big 12 /

*Larry Sanders / 6-10.5 / 7-5.5 w-span
measured taller than listed

*Solomon Alabi / 6-11 / 220 / small hands
good mid range jump shot / *w-span only 7-2 or 3
(Wingspan was somewhat shorter than expected)
great intangibles / great teammate / bible major

-MORE lATER-

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I watched those videos WTF put up. I’m sold on Avery as a coach. I’m also sold on Teague starting, AJ can give him his confidence back. Lebron is not coming here, but if the pipe dream came true, trading Marvin and Josh Smith is doable.

Bibby is a liability but only as a starter, bring him off the bench for 10-15 min a game and he’s very effective.

You guys are totally wrong about Horford, he may be weak at center but you fail to realize he’s a PF playing center. Put him at his natural position and he dominates. Solomon Alabi is not 6′11 he’s 7′1″ a monster on defense and my first choice for the first round pick. The Problem: NBATV is projecting him Top 10 as of today. Jerome Jordan is my second choice, hopefully his stock is not so high. I wouldn’t mind Rick Sund trading up.

We’ll be fine without Joe Johnson, and LeBron or Wade would be nice, but we’re fine without them. We have a great core with Smith, Horford, Teague, Crawford, Pachulia, Evans, and Bibby (veteran leadership). Marvin is tradeable. Our first priority is getting a true center in the draft. Hire Avery to develop Teague.

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Please NORTHCYDE don’t say because of the owner and specialy if we sign avery, lebron have always said he love the city of atlanta so why not he come here.
GO HAWKS

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Please, not Casey. There’s a reason he is in his 50’s and still an assistant.

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I have a feeling we might be wishing we never got rid of Woody. It sounds like Casey is the leading candidate, and lets be honest… is he really an upgrade? Avery is not coming to the ATL, because manangement is not going to pay $4 million plus for a head coach. Woody improved the record each year and even though we never got past the second round while he was here, think about where we were before he got here. The Hawks were the laughing stock of the league. I hope the Hawks pick the right man for the job…. GO HAWKS!!!

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JROC SAID,”Avery isn’t an x and o coach Hawks you’re making a big mistake if you bring this guy in as head coach let him be an assistant and hire Mark Price for the job”
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I like the choir boy(price),but he did nothing with teagues shot,and that was his only job..the shooting coach..and lets not forget that jsmoove still is inconsistent at the free throw line and his 3’s as well..those were projects that he himself even failed to provide performance we needed during the season..now mind you,i know that teague shot better in college and in pre-season and the (dumbing down coaching skills of woody)was the main culprit of teagues inconsistency with his shot!! having said that,price couldn’t even help with those projects and you want him to lead a team???

come on son..
DUKE CREWS AND JAMES HILLIARD!!
BRING THEM HOME SUND!!!!!
AND ALABI WOULD NOT BE BAD EITHER!!!NOT BAD AT ALL!!!

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For all the guys that state AJ likes a slow style of basketball please look at history not just his coaching career but his playing career especially in college. He led the nation in assist with 13.3 per game. Do you know who his coach was at Southern University? Ben Jobe. For those of you who do not know who Ben Jobe is think back to the 1993 lost GT had in the NCAA tournment. Coach Jobe is known for running and he along with Pop are AJ’s coaching mentors. So to answer the question AJ has the ability to adjust to multiple styles of offense

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I’m not enamored of Avery Johnson, but I think it’s hilarious that anybody can suggest that a coach who made it to the Finals with his team is a bad coach. Yeah, if Woody made it to the Finals, the same people would be singing his praises and spewing even more venom against his detractors. Whatever, some people’s hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I also find it interesting that New Orleans turned away from Johnson. That’s what happens when you go to a job interview demaning a raise and a promotion, when you haven’t even gotten the job yet. Very stupid, in my opinion. Avery hasn’t been in the game long enough to be doing that.

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Sorry but I can’t understand how anyone would lobby for hiring Casey over Johnson. Casey had the 2nd best player in the game (KG) at the time, and barely manage to get a .500 record. Every one is saying that Avery is only good in the regular season. Well first, don’t you have to play the regular season before the postseason? And doesn’t your play in the regular season determine your road map in the post season? Do you think the Hawks would’ve been swept by Boston or Cleveland in the second round? And second, if Avery made it to the Finals, wouldn’t that mean that he did have to win three rounds of basketball to get there? And the biggest mistake Avery made was trying to play small ball against Golden State instead of playing his team’s game. But not many students can come back and beat their mentor. Avery was the fastest coach in NBA history to reach 100 and 150 victories. I’ll take my chances with him over Casey (although I still prefer Thibodeau).

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Blue-Ray
(1080 P)

Co-Sign that.

What are your true feelings on re-signing Mr. Johnson?
Is it partly predicated upon who the Coach will be? Or, does he even care at this point?

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Big Ray, I think the most powerful question Sund could ask Avery OR Casey is “In your last coaching stint, what do you think you done wrong? And how have you grown since then?” If Sund asked those two questions, and the two things you just said were mentioned by Avery then I think we can go forward. But please remember that Avery micromanaged Harris, he didn’t micromanage Jason Kidd though. Also Woody had a power struggle with the GM during his time here. And Woody usually won, that’s why Speedy was signed, that’s why we traded for Bibby, and that’s why we drafted S. Williams. And that is also why Woody was here after BK. Remember BK CHOSE to leave he wasn’t fired. He turned down the 2 year contract extension they offered him.

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For those who insist on using Teague’s jump shot as an excuse to doubt his ability to become a quality PG and run this team, consider this. This was the same lame issue that was raised when Chris Paul, Deron Williams, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Magic Johnson and Tony Parker came into the league. Would you have dismissed their potential to become stars because they weren’t prolific jump shooters when they came into the league?

Hell, Bibby has been an excellent jump shooter his entire basketball career, but that didn’t stop him from being a total liability to our team as the starting PG. With the offensive progress made by Horford and Smoove, along with the addition of a prolific scorer in JCrawford, their was less need for Bibby’s jump shooting and more need for DEF and ball movement from the PG position.

Teague is quicker, faster, more athletic, a much better ball handler and penetrator, and is on another planet than Bibby when it comes to DEF. So why would anyone chose to ignore all of these factors and focus on his jump shooting ability as the sole means of judging his ability to become an effective starter and help the Hawks? Hell, after the Allstar break and during the playoffs, Bibby was unable to consistently do the one thing he aways did well, hit jump shots, and got worse in doing the things he did poorly.

After 27:4MPG, ABSOLUTELY NO DEF, and a season of inconsistency and limited production from Bibby, the NBA’s worst and least productive starting PG, how in the hell can anyone with a clue raise questions about Teague’s potential and/or ability to do better if given the same mins, support and encouragement?

BIG RAY-you made an excellent point, as usual. But, before anyone judges Teague’s performance this season, whether you’re pro or con on the issue, you have to establish the parameters by which he’s to be judged. Do you use Bibby as your parameter, rookies PG’s taken in the upcoming draft, or PG’s that were drafted with him.

I find it almost impossible to believe that with Teague’s speed, quickness, athleticism, ball handling, penetrating and excellent on the ball DEF ability, he can’t manage Bibby’s 3.9APG, 9.1PPG, .8SPG and 2RPG, if given 27.4 consistent MPG. Teague can develop an effective enough jump shot if given time, but can you say Bibby will develop more speed, quickness, athleticism, penetrating, ball handling and DEF ability if given time?

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Ken Strickland ,

I agree. You must first define what Teague must be judged by. And it won’t just be about his personal stats. Does he control/help the offense? Is he the tip of the spear on defense? Does the team play better when he’s on the court, or worse?

It’s also important to separate immediate desired results from long-term desired results. There is always a learning curve, and he didn’t get to learn a whole lot last year, if you ask me.

Ramon ,

I think that’s a good set of questions to ask. And the answers would be crucial.

I think BK was only offered a one year extension. He did walk away (or so he and Gearon said), and he did have issues with Woody. But not at first. At first, they were still friends, and I think that was part of the problem. BK and Woody didn’t evaluate talent the same way all the time, but he went with a lot of what Woody suggested or wanted. BK was also the one to say that he laughed when people suggested the Hawks needed a pg. He thought JJ could do the job (which bombed badly) of lead guard like that.

Woody didn’t care much for future stars Deron Williams, CP3, or even Rajon Rondo.

I agree that Woody won the battle of influence. After all, ownership wouldn’t let him fire Woody. Maybe it’s because Woody wasn’t the one who massacred nearly all of our lottery picks….

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Sautee ,

Thanks for injecting some actual TRUTH into the serum for once…

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my thoughts on avery johnson have been rollercoastering from high to low. After reading through this particular blog (which, by the way, props to you all, there are at least 10 regular posters on here i’d rather read ahead of whoever ESPN or SI’s got covering the hawks)I think Avery could be the best man for the job.

When the Hawks lost in the playoffs, they were never really in the game to begin with. It seems when Avery’s team loses in the playoffs, it’s by small margins. If Boston sweeps Orlando and wins by a combined 10 pts in all 4 games, does that mean you fire Stan van Gundy?

Hawks are clearly missing some pieces needed to win a championship, but that does not mean they are not a playoff calibur team, capable of going deep. Us fans would like to see a mentally prepared basketball team who stays close each and every game.

We’re not all asking for a championship. Even if we get swept in the playoffs due to lack of superstar / rare, amazing on o/d center, its better to go out like the Jazz against LA, where no one was blatantly giving up due to frustation.

What we don’t want to see in the playoffs is no strategy, no adjustments, no will to win, a divided locker room, and a lack of heart (aka 0-4 vs magic). A 3 seed doesn’t deserve to be a 3 seed if it loses to the 2 seed by a margin of something absurd like 25 pts in the series.

Avery might not win you a championship, but he seems to know quite a bit about how to get there, and how to hang in whilst there. He also gets his knowledge from 2 extremely solid basketball minds, Nelson and Popovich.

If he can somehow improve the bench, the defense, and teague, encourage Al Horford to emerge as the teams heart, soul, and leader, and find out how to get a guy like Josh Smith to play into a real system, we’ll be the Hawks 2.0

—2 cents

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but, back to the realist perspective most people seem to share, since when are the hawks willing to pay more than 2 mil/yr for a HC?

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I think hiring Avery Johnson would be exactly what the Hawks need. He would provide a winning mentality, make their potential future point guard better (Teague), and most of all be a pain in the Spirit’s a!!!. He would force this inept management group to step up & provide him with the pieces to make this team a championship contender. The perceived problems that Avery had in Dallas are a sign of a VERY competitive coach who strives to be the best at his profession…what the he!! is wrong with that?

I would much rather attach the future of this team to Johnson, then bring in “someone who Sund is familiar” with…cause you know what they say about familiarity.

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every one dunks on horford and his is amongst the worse defenders as a center. every body knows that. every opposing coach goes in the middle against him. He was a consolation as an allstar and failed to make either the all nba team or the all defensive team.

if horford is the hawks center next year expect the same results. he would be ok as a back up but everyone and his mother knows hawks need a center.

put my cosign with truth serum.

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Why in the world would the Hawks have Dominique coach the team?

Avery Johnson isn’t my favorite candidate, but he’ll be an upgrade over Woodson. It’ll be interesting to see if Dwayne Casey gets a legitimate look, as well.

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Two words: Doc Rivers. Lets wait until Boston finishes their season and offer this man the moon. The way he has his team playing and players responding is throuigh the roof. He is the coach we need. Resign JJ, tinker with the bench a little bit and a way we go!!

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J-SMOOVE,
we improved in spite of woody..Knight knew that players like jsmoove(which is you,lol)chills,horford,and supposedly marvin williams needed tons of playing time,and that woody was cheaper to hire and these players could get their “coaching up” with off season workouts(like with you jsmoove going to work out with hakeem the dream).

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Clyde, you and me are better options than Collins at this point, lol.

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Avery Johnson…..Donald Duck…..67 wins and loses to Nelson? That is bad. About on the same level as what we saw here this year…..

The most telling point here is that the Hornets have a chance to get Thibadeau. I would have thought the Hawks would be lovin him up if he wanted to leave the potential world champeen Boston Celtics, The pipsqueak from Dallas and a couple of Sund’s friends don’t cut it.

He really has something else in mind, doesn’t he? WELL DOESN’T HE?????? (Sorry Tourette’s capitalization syndrome)

And all we do is interview that pipsqueak from Dallas and a couple of Sund’s friends????? No…..Sund must have something more in mind……

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sam’l, ditto on the 4:49 It gonna look pretty much the same as last year. Kind of remind me of what Obama said about doing the same thing, using the same people and expecting a different result. We have already seen what avery can do with much more talent available than the hawks have now….not much. If he were coaching the current hawks roster youd have pretty much the same results. 1 and out. What a waste of time.

Sund Sucks.

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smh one is a lateral move and the other is an experiment. This just tells me that the hawks will be no better next year than this one

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BIG RAY-I think BK initially wanted to make the JJ PG experiment work, but when it didn’t, he drafted a quick, fast, penetrating PG to run his preferred uptempo style of OFF(enter SStaudemire). The problem was, Woodson didn’t want that type of PG, or any rookie PG, running his team. He wanted a veteran PG, and refused to give any rookie PG a fair chance, especially if he was BK’s choice. That’s why he played every vet PG he had major mins, no matter what.

BK relented and acquired TLue, and traded a 2nd rd pick for AJohnson, and as we all know, neither worked out very well. BK then drafted ALaw, but again, Woodson wasn’t about to change his mind or attitude toward a rookie PG running his team. BK was determined to fire Woodson, and had made several attempts, but was rebuffed by the ASG. Then BK traded for Bibby, and the team turned things around, made the playoffs and took the eventual NBA champion Celtics to a rousing 7gm series. That’s when the ASG figured Woodson was right all along on the veteran PG issue, and BK was wrong. And, as we all know, BK became the odd man out.

I’ve seen comments about SStaudemire, ALaw and JTeague being wastes of time and failures. Well, under Woodson’s obviously biased attitude against rookie PG’s, and subsequent mistreatment thereof, those same comments could likely have been made about CPaul, DWilliams or RRhondo had BK drafted either of them.

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So a guy who has accomplished more as a head coach than the previous coach is a lateral move? Mike Woodson is that you?

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Go ahead and hire Casey Sund. We all know he’s your choice anyway. Seriously!

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I personally don’t think the Hawks would be any better than they are now if Avery Johnson was hired as head coach. Right now, the Hawks need someone who can successfully guide them in the playoffs. Not just regular season. Johnson coached a Dallas Mavericks team to 60 wins or more a few years ago but then they flopped in the playoffs. He would be no better for the Hawks than Mike Woodson was.

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If somehow we sign Avery Johnson to a deal, what are the chances we can get Dirk to come here? What was the relationship between the two during Johnson’s tenure there?

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Anyone seen my eyebrows anywhere? I’ve lost them

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On the subject of the “mighty Magic” and the “mighty Superman”:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Dwight-Howard-still-has-a-long-way-to-go-for-Orlando-Magic

In particular, I would like to call your attention to his words on Pat Ewing since there were many around here praising him… and even putting his name forward as a HC candidate.

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Lol at the Magic about to quit like the Hawks. Lol at Dwight Howard not hustling like Josh Smith. Oh the irony!

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Rondo with a hustle play which will probably become legendary…

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After watching this, I am convinced that Mike Woodson HAD TO GO! With increased effort and a lot more strategic use of Horford, Collins, Zaza, Morris; there isn’t a doubt in my mind that the Hawks could have at least competed with Orlando.

Also,

If the Cavs and Magic were both dismantled by the Celtics, then how far off are the Hawks really away from playing in a championship. I think they are a lot closer than we all think, but we most definitely have to have someone in here that can coach properly and get his to to play hard.

I say keep this team together for atleast another year, add 1 or 2 more additions (someone that can send Marvin to the bench), start Teague, and bring in a good coach; then let’s see what we’re really working with!

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perfect team play by boston, not only sharing the ball, there is good spacing and perfect knowledge on where the team mate is

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“The Hawks passed on CP3, Deron Williams, and Rondo because Woodrow wanted a veteran pg who could “shoot” I’m absolutely disgusted knowing this organization passed on 3 all star pgs for Duck Williams and Shellhead. The only way these two clowns go to an all star game is if they buy a ticket..” -smh

Does Kenny Anderson, Tyron Lue or Speedy Claxton ring a bell?

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Exactly clyde but for some reason its still people on here who don’t get it. The dude said it out of his own mouth and people are still giving him a pass. BK gave Woodson what he wanted. He did not want a young pg. I doubt he wanted Law. I think BK took him because he was tired of passing up on pgs to appease Woodsons infatuation with having a veteran pg. You can check the old archives on here. Woodson came out numerous times and said he wanted more size the year they drafted Sheldon. That was Woodsons guy. When he realized just how terrible Sheldon really was he stopped playing him. Like clyde just noted, why do you think guys like Lue and AJ were playing so much although there was young guys behind them. Because Woodson wanted vets. He said it a million times. You people cannot be this blind.

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Celtics proving defense wins championships. What some need to understand though is that defense doesn’t fall on one man’s shoulders.

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As for Jeff Teague, if there’s anything I’m learning here watching Rondo, it’s that his ability to penetrate instantly adds another dimension to the offense. Penetration helps to space the floor, and get shooters open.

How many times did you hear people say “the Hawks are a jumpshooting team” throughout that Orlando series?

The pick and pop game with Rondo/Garnett that ESPN’s halftime crew discussed is an ideal example of this. Penetration that forces Howard to rotate/help and leave his man, Garnett open for jumpers outside.

Boston has an offensive philosophy. They’re not scared to get creative. They get guys running off screens every possession. They showed faith in Rondo by playing him early in his career even though he came into the league almost as raw as Teague.

I’m looking forward to watching Teague. He *can* be special.

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“Teague, likewise plays no D and can’t throw a rock in the ocean. He may develop, but he is a Project from what I saw!”

Teague’s defense still may be a bit flawed. I saw him let his guy blow right by him a couple times this season in hopes of poking the ball away from his man from behind him. These are things that no doubt he has to *work on*.

Rajon Rondo WOULD NOT be the player he is today if he played as a rookie for Atlanta from day one…

Anybody else think different?

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You have to love how Sund like BK gave Woodrow what he wanted now the Hawks are stuck with Bibby and Duck Williams contracts . smdh

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3 quarters played, and the Magic are yet to hit the 50 point mark.

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Wabe

Rondo wouldn’t be the player he is today, if he was still playing with Al Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins, and Gerald Green.

Remember he is playing with 3 future HOF’ers. That means alot in terms of experience.

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And GeeMack, it helps that he has 3 HOF’ers around him.

Point taken.

But, the point would be, you can credit his development to his PT…

You wouldn’t see Rondo at the point he’s at in his career if, lets say, Boston played him “Teague-like” minutes his rookie year. That would’ve hindered his development. He’d still be playing with 3 HOF’ers, but he’d look nowhere near as good without that extra year under his belt.

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Big Baby is an example of a player who worked hard, and a coach who decided to believe in his play. We’ve been missing that in Atlanta. I want a coach who not only believes in a player who actually has potential, but will push said player, and the guys around him.

Rivers got his team to trust each other, and that is why they are winning. That is what we’ve been missing here, and I hope we get it in the next coach.

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smh

Stan Van Gundy looked like the he had the greatest gameplan against the “heartless Hawks”. Now he looks like Woody on the sideline. It’s funny how those open shots don’t fall with a hand in your face.

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He really didn’t need a gameplan against the Hawks. Someone posted an article on here during the playoffs that showed just how teams beat us and it was very simple actually. It showed just how bad the iso offense is during the playoffs. Van Gundy is a better coach than Woodrow. He actually has made adjustments they just haven’t worked. There is a big difference in trying something else and just sitting there with your arms folded. If the guys you are facing have better counter moves than you then you tip ya hat off to them at least you tried but when you don’t do anything and i mean anything different or new then I cant see how you can compare the two.

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People have to realize that MOST points by BOS this evening, as in ALL OTHER games against CLE and ORL resulted out of team play not individual quality.

Many of them lay ups or easy shots which come as a direct consequence of set plays, good ball rotation and unselfish basketball.

It’s much easier to make an impact in a game if you are given good opportunities to score rather than having to plow your way to the basket or generate your own shots one on one like we have been playing.

Team ball does not require nearly as much individual talent as our ISO oriented offense which depended almost exclusively on the individual ability of our players.

Big Baby playing for Woody would not score a single basket against ORL (unless it was a put back) simply because his oportunities to score would be solely ISO plays down low against Howard.

Have you seen Big Baby posting Howard? I am sure you didn’t and you know what, Howard looks completely lost when there is a lot of ball movement around him.

We played right into his strenghts and never exploited his weaknesses.

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Except Al Horford.

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WTF kind of irony is this?

The team that we swept in the regular season is the same team that is gonna sweep the team that swept us in the playoffs.

WTF???!!!!!

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After this series, if the Hawks don’t interview Tom Thibodeau, they should just be contracted on principle. He has the Celtics playing the perfect defensive game plan and they are executing it to perfection. I can’t think of a better coaching candidate, including Avery Johnson.

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RICK SUND, TAKE A PAGE FROM THE BOSTON.YOU SEE THE BEAUTY OF HAVING A GOOD BIG MAN?OTHERS CAN SEE THIS EXCEPT YOU.YOUR ANSWER WAS TO FIRE MIKE WOODSON INSTEAD OF ADDING TO OUR ROSTER WITH A CENTER. WELL, WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND.YOU COULD BE FACING YOUR LAST YEAR AS GM OF THE HAWKS

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I think we need a coach that’s as handsome and intelligent as my Big Ray!

Wub you pookie!

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Najeh,

Some of us have been calling for thibodeau to at least get an interview, but his name has not been mentioned with the hawks.

Boston signed him in 08 before they won the championship, and the look poised to return to the final. Sure, he has good players. But his defensive game plans look good

And between new York, Houston and Boston, I heard thibodeau’s teams have been top 10 in defense 15 times.

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sign and trade joe johnson + marvin for hinrich and deng?

get rid of joe’s contract, huge improvement at SF?

Hinrich – proven leader, surprising defensive intensity, can hit the 3 – still a large downgrade but I don’t think I want the Hawks SG to be the leading scorer, but more of a defensive player who hits 3’s / open jump shots while not trying to do too much. I think points could come from Teague dishing it down low to Horford, Smith and Deng. This should leave Hinrich open to be a spot up shooter.

Hinrich – 8 mil expiring contract in 2011
Deng – (26) 12-13 mil for the next 2 years

Deng averages about 17-18 pts a game, was the sportsmanship player of the year, could also bring leadership. Has a big heart, made evident to me by the way he hustled against Lebron and the cavs in the first round this year. He’s not afraid. He proved he’s not afraid to play against anyone, Hawks need more guys like that.

Al
Josh
Deng
Hinrich/Jamal
Teage/Bibby

use any extra money to bolster the bench, particularly the backup forward joe smith needed to be this year.

am i crazy?

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Dr.MaryB, where were you when Woody said Deron was too slow and CP3 couldn’t shoot? You must’ve been on the operating table that day? If your’re going to stay on the Woody bandwagon, you could at least be truthful.

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The hawks should have given woody one more season with the improvement of the hawks each year.Management pulled the trigger too fast when they fired woody they should have waited to see how the season ended before they made their final decision.The Magic and the Suns are playing just like the Hawks, are their coaches going to get fired?Whoever the hawks hire will not make any improvement with the championship caliber teams such as the Lakers and Celtics.Honestly did any of you hawks fans feel this team could win a championship with no legite superstar.Yes the season ended with disappointment and you would like to see more effort from the team.But despite any coaching change you still going to get the same results an early exit from the playoffs.Joe and Josh lack heart and determination.The last time Joe showed heart was in the playoffs a couple of years ago against the Celtics.And Josh needs a total attitude ajustment.The Hawks issues isn’t coaching its the players own internal issues No Heart No Drive No Determination a total pathetic mess.The little pirahna Avery Johnson don’t have enough bite in him to change these Hawks around, they have to work hard during the off-season to get that heart,drive and determination that you Hawk fans know they are capable of.

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It makes me sick everytime i hear the lame commentary of Mark Jackson the worst broadcaster in NBA history “ooooohhhh mamma their goes that man” And some off you guys want this fool to be the Hawks head coach Come On Fans Think Better Of Yourself.

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Coach Mark Jackson: Hey Josh go baseline for the alley ooop slam come on baby make me say Hey Mama there goes that Man. Yes he did it there goes that man! there goes that man! there goes that man mama!

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BK tried to fire Woody for talking him into passing on Paul and Williams for Marvin, after they started looking like HOF’s and Marvin was still Marvin. lol! He just had to have his veteran pg. And Mary B, still thinks Woody wanted CP3. lol!

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Joe Mama: alias – the ”Mad hatter”

Please list the four all NBA players.
Make sure now, that they were all NBA, in the year in question.
It doesn’t count if they have a [all NBA] corpse on the roster.
I honestly have not looked it up, so I really don’t know.

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DMR, great comments there. i think your rant could have gone on if you had allowed it, too. thanks for making your point but if you want to come back occasionally to make additional points you are welcome.

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I still think that everyone looking for a coach right now will regret someday not really giving Mark Jackson a solid look. I think the point guard mentality is the same reason Rivers is able to communicate so well with the Celtics. Yes, Avery was one too, but he had his shot in Dallas. If you go could go back in time, when they where in their primes, who would you take Mark or Avery? Keeping it real !!!!

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Honestly, I want Byron Scott. He took the Nets to the finals twice, with JKidd, K-Mart, and a bunch of role players. Did a helluva job in N.O too, in a tough Western Conference. And once again. CP3, David West, and a bunch of role players. He might end up in Chicago though.

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Whoops – sorry – forgot to put 1st paragraph in quotations!!!
Truth_Serum deserves credit when it is due!!!

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Oh yeah Woody does look like a dunce for passing on CP3 & Deron Williams, but he didn’t resign Bibby for 6.2 mill per yr & Marvin for 7.5 mill per yr. Keeping it real !!!!

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True ReddJonn but he was the one who insisted that Sund bring them back. As he put it, he wanted to keep the core together to see if they could make the next step.

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sign and trade joe johnson + marvin for hinrich and deng?

get rid of joe’s contract, huge improvement at SF?

Hinrich – proven leader, surprising defensive intensity, can hit the 3 – still a large downgrade but I don’t think I want the Hawks SG to be the leading scorer, but more of a defensive player who hits 3’s / open jump shots while not trying to do too much. I think points could come from Teague dishing it down low to Horford, Smith and Deng. This should leave Hinrich open to be a spot up shooter.

Hinrich – 8 mil expiring contract in 2011
Deng – (26) 12-13 mil for the next 2 years

Deng averages about 17-18 pts a game, was the sportsmanship player of the year, could also bring leadership. Has a big heart, made evident to me by the way he hustled against Lebron and the cavs in the first round this year. He’s not afraid. He proved he’s not afraid to play against anyone, Hawks need more guys like that.

Al
Josh
Deng
Hinrich/Jamal
Teage/Bibby

use any extra money to bolster the bench, particularly the backup forward joe smith needed to be this year.

am i crazy?

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DRMARYB/OBRIEN-no argument here on Salim and Acie not being pure PG’s, but the fact is they were still drafted for that purpose. And don’t forget, JJ was initially brought here to play PG as well.

DRMARYB-I don’t understand how you can say Teague didn’t play any DEF whatsoever, and not have a single issue when it comes to Bibby and his total lack of DEF ability. Every scouting report and official report on Teague credits him for his solid on the ball DEF. JJ was the only Hawk guard that was able to thrive in Woodson’s stupid switching DEF.

When Magic Johnson came into the league, there were pundits who doubted his ability to be an effective NBA PG. He lacked a jump shot and couldn’t throw a rock in the ocean either. They also questioned his lack of speed, quickness and the ability of a man his size being able to defend the quicker, faster, smaller PG’s. If you spend all of you effort and time focusing on what you perceive a player can’t do, you tend to overlook all of the positive things that player can do. Magic was a perfect example.

Magic was too big, slow and couldn’t shoot, Isiah Thomas, Chris Paul, Mug Bogus, Spud Webb, Charlie Criss and Allan Iverson were either too small or short and Deron Williams was too fat. How long did Ben Wallace sit at the end of the bench because his coaches focused on what he couldn’t do, like shoot, score, dribble, before Piston’s GM and HC LBrown decided to take advantage of what he could do, like rebound, run the court and play solid one on one DEF, including shot blocking.

When you have SF’s(Marvin/Evans), C’s(Horford/Zaza), SG’s(JJ/Crawford), and PF(JoSmith) that are solid outside shooters, you can afford to start and/or give major mins to a quick, fast, penetrating PG like Teague, who actually plays solid one on one DEF.

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doc – I can’t help myself sometimes.
I really enjoy trying [in vain] (of course)to educate
the young man/person?.
Sautee, I think, debates.
Myself, I truly like him.
Does that make me deranged also?
I hope not, just an old-timer, enjoyin’ a young-un’s follies.

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granddad, unless you are misreading what i just said that big oil gets nothing close to a pass and neither do any of our government leaders from both parties that feed at the hand of big oil, then i dont think we disagree. that was hardly what i said.

now back to our ostrich stance.

oh yeah, dont get me started on the banking system either. heh heh

WWSD

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NAJEH-I’m not the 1st one to bring him up, but I’m certainly his biggest fan as far as being our future HC. He’s managed to come up with a DEF strategy that’s totally confused the Magic players and their coaching staff, and after 3 losses, they still don’t have a clue. His strategy has been so smothering defensively, that they have lost their will to compete. The Celtics are doing to the Magic what they’ve routinely done to us, especially in our last record setting playoff series embarrassment. This is exactly what coaches routinely did to us under Woodson.

While a lot of people are going to give HC Doc Rivers credit for the Celtics surge, the mind and inspiration behind their DEF surge has been Thibodeau. However, Doc should be given credit for allowing his assistant to take command over his DEF, rather than trying to be the do all, say all, take for all, dominating type of HC. Phil Jackson allowed his assistant to design and implement his triangle OFF.

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Great – Because the last thing I want to do
is piss off my friends.
When I debate serious stuff I tend to lose
my sense of humor.
Now back to “Real Serious Stuff”
like when will someone in Atl. slip us a tidbit
of info on the coachinf search?
Instead of this garbage:
Mark Bradley »
ESPN report: The Hawks aren’t on Chris Bosh’s wish list
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If you haven’t seen this yet, you may want to give it a try.
posted by:
WTF
May 21st, 2010
11:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gph8RwIYPvM&feature=related

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When I watched this interview I decided – we need this guy!
Thought you might enjoy.

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granddad us old farts have to stick together.

cool

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Orlando is looking like we did against them in the 2nd Round, and to think we handled the Celtics all season long

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We need to draft Sherron Collins in the 2nd Round and trade Mike Bibby

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Grandad,

Yeah, Shaq said a couple of years ago that SVG is the master of panic… Guess we see what he was talking about..

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I am officially switching from ‘Zoubek’:
[didn't attend "Portsmouth"]
(wasn’t invited to combine)
Do not know his official measurements?
Now, for that reason + what I now know;
I’m leaping on the Dexter Pittman bandwagon!
Several of you guys were intrigued a week or so ago.
You get all the cred.
His measurements were off the charts:

per DraftExpress:
“Dexter Pittman is quite a unique physical specimen in his own right, measuring 6-9 ½ without shoes, with a 7-6 wingspan. He also has the biggest hands in this draft (a new stat) at 10.5 inches.”

Also, 6-11 with shoes.(honor grad) Big 12 Academic All-Conference
espnU – talked about teams in the NBA – East:
needed a player like him to battle D.Howard w/o committing to
double-teams.
Lost over 100 lbs. since arriving @ U of Texas. [committed worker]
Shot 60% career @ Tex. *perfect fit, spell Al & Josh, 20/25 min. per.
Plus, I don’t think he will be there in 2nd round….So @ # 24 = Dex.

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If we want to get up and down the court, we dont want Pittman.

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“Nothing makes a guy more accountable on the floor in games and every day in practice than knowing there’s somebody behind him who is capable and ready to take his minutes,” said general manager Steve Kerr. “That goes for Steve and Amar’e. Alvin’s willingness to use all our roster throughout the year has let the reserve guys know that they’ll always get their chance and the starters know that there is never an excuse to pace yourself.”

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o’b, have you researched that theory to see if there is much truth to it??

cart or horse stuff, eh?

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Grandad ,

You clearly have the tolerance, patience, and wisdom that we younger ones lack. That is certainly admirable in the way of character traits.

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Whomever the coach is, I pray it is announced by this time next week!

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We have a young core, so we should have young and youthful PG’s as well. That way in a few years we’ll only have to replace the SG spot (Mal and JJ)

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terrell:

Value – If we could get up high enough to get X.Henry
or Paul George then yeah.
Henry will go between 8 & 15 @ the lowest.
When P.George measured out @ 6-9 he shot up into the lottery.
Alabi may be there @ 24 ”but” – he had foot surgery:
freshman season; think back…Bigs who have had foot surgery:
*Sam Bowie & Bill Walton
Once a Big has broken bones in their feet – watch out.
He’s not Bill Walton.
Jerome Jordan is fine but I suspect he & Dex pittman will be
picked @ the top of the 2nd round. Will not be there when we pick.
That’s why if you like someone – don’t gamble.
A value pick is [if] who you want is there when you pick.
J.Jordan will be 24 before the season starts next yr.
That will lower his stock somewhat. Due to Age.

Another name to keep an eye on @ 24 is Damion James:
combo forward / tough guy / defensive specialist /
put up good offensive #’s / NBA body. [Tex I think]
Could be a solution if Marv is traded.
He [D.James] is tough with mean streak. (the good kind)

One last item on Dex Pittman and his offensive numbers.
He only played 20 to 25 min per game because of his weight.
He has come a long way, losing over 100 lbs. he still has
a ways to go. But as a needs player, he fills the bill.
He has proven that he will and will continue to work on
conditioning. ‘Cousins’ is 292 15% body fat & was out of shape.
He is a bigger risk due to conditioning and other red flags than Pittman. In my humble opinion.

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During his time at Kansas, Collins was a four-time All-Big 12 honoree and helped the Jayhawks to the 2008 NCAA Championship while winning more games (130) than any other player in school history. While those accomplishments, as well as his laundry list of awards, are impressive, they don’t mean a darn thing when it comes to the draft positioning.

This time of year, every prospect’s game is picked apart and scrutinized. The smallest flaw is magnified and made to seem like the elephant in the room rather than the simple acknowledgment that nobody is perfect. Even Brad Pitt did “The Mexican.”
But, alas, so is the world of professional sports.

“I think I showed in my workouts and I think I have been proven at Kansas what I can do,” Collins told HOOPSWORLD. “I think I have shown my strengths. I just want to be remembered as a winner, pretty much, and that is what I try to do: Win.”

“As a rookie in the league as a point guard, you have to have a mindset that you can’t be scared to say anything to a veteran,” Collins explained. “You can’t be scared to say anything to an All-Star. That is your job. You have to be the quarterback. You have to know every spot. You have to know where players need to be. That is my attitude. I just like to win so I’m going to do whatever it takes. I don’t need to score. If it is guarding a guy for 94 feet or doing whatever coach asks me to do, I’m going to do it.”

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16302#ixzz0onxgBXml

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A blind person could see that cousins was out of shpe. Derrick favors it too. These guys can barely jump and have too much bulk on their frames. Just pull up some footage of them and watch it. Those guys arent as athletic as people are claiming them to be. They will struggle early. Even Al Jefferson and Kevin Love had to shed the pounds. Luke Harangody dropped weight as well. Guess these cats didn’t get the memo (too many yes-men around them). Tch I’d rather have Gani Lawal than those two. Pittman needs to drop another 40lbs as well.

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Here we go again

Good post. I like what Collins had to say. That’s absolutely the attitude you want to hear from a pg.

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How in the dickens does one type *Latty instead of *Larry.
”Larry Sanders” not Latty Sanders.

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I Like BIG – BUTTS!

And I can not lie! Get us a Big-Baby to push Dwight around!
The knock on Deron Williams was that he was to big in the bottom to play the point. (Something @ too many hamburgers)

I hearing Cousins has attitude/personality issues tho. (Something @ he’s lazy? Like Derrick Coleman?). Anyway, he’ll be gone by the time we pick anyways – unless we move up to get someone.

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Another COY fired. This time it’s Mike Brown, despite one finals appearance, 5 straight trips to the playoffs, and back to back 60 win seasons.

The last 4 COYs have all been fired within 2 seasons after winning it. Mike Brown, Byron Scott, Sam Mitchell, Avery Johnson. Will Scott Brooks break the trend?

Sund usually moves at a snails pace, but I’m hoping he selects his coach this week. And more and more, I’m starting to think it will not be Avery, and it will be Casey.

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Coaches only get you so far. After that the players take over. Witness the Magic. Could anyone have seen this debacle coming? They look like the Hawks. Should Stan van Gundy be fired too?

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A frontline of Josh, Dirk, and Al would allow Josh to guard the SF, but play PF on the offensive end, and allow Dirk to be on the perimeter.

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Hey guys would yall be interested in bringin back Lenny!

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66774/20100524/lenny_wilkens_open_to_coaching_again/

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“A frontline of Josh, Dirk, and Al would allow Josh to guard the SF, but play PF on the offensive end, and allow Dirk to be on the perimeter.”

that’s actually a great idea
shame there’s no chance in hell

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OBRIEN-I definitely had that same thought in mind when I jumped on the Thibodeau bandwagon. You’d think that with his track record and the way he’s prepared the Celtic’s DEF during this playoff run, he’d be at or near the top of every teams list that’s looking for a HC. I thought that maybe it’s known throughout NBA circles that he’s more interested in remaining in his current capacity, or is more interested in becoming the Celtics eventual HC if Doc decides to leave.

Either way, I’d love to see what he could do for our DEF either as our HC or assistant. After reading the article about the reason Cleveland fired HC Mike Brown, it looked like a reprint of the reasons Woodson was let go. The only difference was Brown was able to rely on LJames, who was far more talented than JJ, and had enough sense not to rely on a total liability like Bibby, at the expense of everything else.

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Westurd, you say Josh is not 3 fool?? Well tell me why the last 4 seasons Josh has guarded EVERY position just as much as he’s guarded the PF position? Woody’s switching constantly put Josh in position of guarding other positions all over the floor. Josh and Dirk would be a great tandem at the forward position because the traditional things that you would want of an SF you have in Dirk at the PF. What SF (aside from Lebron) you know can handle the ball better than Dirk? And the traditional things you want in a PF you have in Smoove. There’s no way that they wouldn’t dominate most teams that they play, fool. lol

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I hope that the Hawks will consider Mike Brown now that he’s available. I know that Cleveland got knocked out of the playoffs just like the Hawks, but I think that this is the Celtics’ year and I don’t think anyone will beat them, so I wouldn’t put too much stock into this year’s playoff performances. The Celtics are making Van Gundy look bad right now, and wait to see how they make the “Zen Master” look in the finals. Brown’s playoff performance is better than Avery’s and just about any coach that the Hawks could attract. I personally would rather see Mike Brown than Avery Johnson, if only so I don’t have to hear that voice all the time.

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SWAT, remember Mike Brown has played with the referees calling anything he asked for the last 4-5 seasons. So I wouldn’t exactly put too much stock into his coaching ability. There are only two things David Stern and the officials like more than a team with Lebron on it, and that’s the Lakers and the Celtics. And if he coached the best player for this long, with a team that had 25-30 mil in their payroll and still couldn’t get it done, I don’t see how he would here.

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Glad to see Dwight and the Magic getting thier s*** handed to them so people around atlanta will see in basketball its about matchups!! The Hawks i know could have beat the C’s b/c they match up better with them b/c our front line is more active and can score on them!! We have to be able to match up though better with the Magic or Cavs b/c in the east with all of us being the best 4 teams will will have to play one of them like it or not!!!!

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Mike Brown and Mike Woodson are the same coaches as far as style of play!!! Defense 1st and letting one player go one on one and if that does not work dump it in the post to somebody!!

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I’ll be honest, I think Sund knows who he wants to hire, but he’s presuming with “caution” to keep the fanbase happy. I personally think he’s going to offer Casey the position, but he’s kept up talks with Avery to keep the fanbase satisfied. It’s strictly a PR move.

I may be wrong. Like I said, it’s just my theory. I’m not as hot about Avery Johnson as some here, but I don’t think he’s going to get the job as it is. I think his asking price will be a bit too high. Sund’s connections to Casey + Casey landing a 2nd interview just confirms (at least to me) that Casey’s gonna be the guy.

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Mike Brown is a glorified Mike Woodson! I HOPE you were joking.

The only difference is that Iso-LeBron works better.

Brown Had like Five Former All-stars on his squad! Including Shaq and LBJ. 90+ million dollar team salary. It would be hard even for Woody to screw that up!

Where in the HELL is Elston Tuner’s INTERVIEW!!!! Rick!!!!! ugh-!!!!

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#crazytalk^^^^

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#morecrazytalk^^^^

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