Expanding my print edition story . . .
Personnel
If the Hawks are interested in moving forward instead of standing pat, that means they are chasing the Magic. The disparity in talent (basketball, not physical), depth and single-minded execution in this series has been apparent. In addition to Dwight Howard, Jameer Nelson, Vince Carter and Rashard Lewis, the Magic can send out at least seven additional players who effectively fill major roles.
To get to that level, the Hawks need more and better perimeter players, starting with a point guard. That’s true whether they re-sign J.J. or not, which I’ll get into more under the “Philosophy” heading. The Hawks need to see what they have with Teague, and sending him to summer league is a good start, but they also need a veteran other than Bibby who can possibly start or play big minutes.
The Hawks need more depth. Look at the bottom of the roster right now: Joe Smith, Jason Collins, Randolph Morris and Mario West. The Hawks need better players to fill those roles (backup center, power forward, and defensive wing) and either Woody or the next coach has to make it a point to work them into the rotation.
Philosophy
When the Hawks, including co-owner Michael Gearon Jr., say they are a better team when the ball is moving, what they mean is they are better when J.J. isn’t dribbling out the ball on one side of the floor while his teammates stand around. So before the Hawks even begin to ponder how much they think J.J. is worth, they first must decide if he can play a different style. If the Hawks re-sign J.J. and add a point guard who can get to the rim and create open shots, can J.J. thrive as a spot-up shooter and cutter? Or does he need to play his deliberate, slashing style? If the Hawks keep Woody, would he be able to get J.J. to change for the sake of the team? Can any coach do it at this point?
At first I defended the merits of Iso-Joe, which included the Hawks’ excellent efficiency numbers during the regular season. Slowly I came to realize the psychological toll it has on this team, which has several guys who need to be involved to stay sharp. And now we see that in the playoffs good defensive teams, which most of them tend to be, can neutralize Iso-Joe or Iso-Anybody. Actually, we saw that before the playoffs, when the Hawks kept losing those road leads with low-scoring second halves.
The Hawks’ need for a point guard ties into the defensive philosophy, too. Since two of the Hawks’ four primary perimeter players are weak defenders, Woody has had to use switches on screens (Woody is a big fan of Bibby but I think he’d use him as a reserve if he had a clearly better option.) If Woody stays and the Hawks acquire a couple more strong perimeter defenders, would he then scrap the switches? (I think he would.)
The chemistry issues also tie into philosophy. Perhaps if the Hawks ran an offense with more player and ball movement they wouldn’t suffer so many of those demoralizing scoring droughts. Surely a defense that keeps Al and Josh near the basket would help with the negative rebounding margins, fatigue and frustrations that can occur when big men are forced to defend on the perimeter.
Payroll
It’s easy to say ASG simply needs to go for it and start spending serious money. The Magic has three guys (Dwight, Rashard and Vince) making more than J.J., and those three guys have taken it to the Hawks. Still, none of the rest of the Magic are particularly high-priced, but there are lots of them. The Magic picked the right guys behind the stars and a coach who’s gotten them to buy into a defense-first approach.
So it’s not only about payroll. But the Hawks didn’t use either of their salary-cap exceptions this season, and that’s a major way to acquire solid, veteran players who can fill a major role. It’s what teams with real championship aspirations do even if they don’t go out and sign max guys. The Hawks’ $66 million payroll is well below that of the serious contending teams. They’ve gotten next to nothing from the minimum-salaries guys at the end of the bench.
But the reality is, there are only a few superstars ASG could acquire who would provide a reasonable chance at a return on their investment in this market. The list starts with LeBron, Wade, and Kobe and doesn’t go on much longer, if it all. Without getting into the many reasons offered for why people haven’t turned out for Hawks games, the attendance and revenues haven’t kept pace with the victories. The Hawks had to sell deeply discounted tickets (or in some cases give them away) for playoffs games. This is not an environment that would inspire any owner to take on payroll unless they can get a guy on that short list of box-office draws.
I saw that effect in Miami. The Heat traded for Shaq and suddenly they were the hot thing in Miami. Three years of sellouts and dramatically increased revenues followed. Then things went south, teh crowds and revenues started drying up again and Shaq was on his way to Phoenix. That’s how it tends to go unless a franchise is located in a rabid basketball town with deep ties to the local team.
You can offer an argument that the city would rally behind (and spend money on) a low-key, superstarless team that plays fundamentally sound offense and rugged defense. But, really, is that realistic? The Hawks sent out an exciting, athletic team that won 37 games at Philips Arena while scoring a lot of points and still had trouble drawing. Would it really make a big difference if the newly-constructed team ran less isos and fought through screens?
As it stands now, the Hawks’ payroll is projected at roughly $45 million next season. The salary cap is expected to be at about $56 million. That means if the Hawks let J.J. walk without a sign-and-trade, they can could possibly sign a free agent whose salary starts at $10-$11 million $9-$10 million (edit: reader Robert Dinterman emailed to note that this would require the Hawks to renounce several cap holds–see here for details). If they end up at the cap limit, they then could add a player using the mid-level (salary starting at about $5.5 million), bi-annual ($2.1 million) exceptions and/or minimum-salary exceptions.
Perhaps that plan might work in the short term if the Hawks got the Personnel part right and found good value for a starting point guard, defensive wing, center and whatever else they decide they need. Maybe losing an All-NBA talent like J.J. is offset somewhat by the change in Philosophy that presumably would happen with him gone and a point guard added. It’s doubtful it would be a team that can break through to the East finals but maybe it’s a small step back before something bigger down the line.
MC
372 comments Add your comment
James
May 10th, 2010
11:30 pm
*let him go
Clyde
May 10th, 2010
11:33 pm
I told yall this team was only good enough to make it to the second round. No point guard and no center = a second round sweep. The bad part about it is we had the same problem when we got swept last year and nothing was done about it last summer. smh
FIRE WOODY
bigdave
May 10th, 2010
11:37 pm
Josh says ” too many iso’s”
Joe say’s with smile in regards to the door still being open in Atlanta: “its still open, its still open, ive been booed louder than that”
chuck
May 10th, 2010
11:42 pm
The problem is the clown ex GM Billy doofus Knight did a terrible job of drafting players. The best two players on the team by far are both PF and neither should be playing anywhere near big minutes at another position. Bibby is WAY over the hill and is at best a 10-15 minute a game player. Woodson is such a terrible coach that we still don’t know anything about Teague. JJ has to go or play for about half his salary. JJ just isn’t a superstar and is at best a third option on a top 4 or 5 team. The team that signs him to a big contract will regret it come playoff time when JJ chokes as usual. Marvin Williams was a terrible pick then and an even worse pick today. Playing Horford out of position at C isn’t fair to him.
Where have we heard this before? It’s time to blow up the team and rebuild. I don’t understand how with such a vibrant black community that signing free agents for the Hawks is such a problem.
Wabe
May 10th, 2010
11:46 pm
“I don’t understand how with such a vibrant black community that signing free agents for the Hawks is such a problem.”
What does this have to do with signing FA’s?
Woodys No Goody
May 10th, 2010
11:57 pm
Have to admit Im excited to see who Hawks next coach is going to be. Between this and Bobby Cox retiring, I can’t wait for next year!
cp
May 11th, 2010
12:01 am
I read that the Bucks were already trying to sign Salmons to an extension so he might not be available. The Hawks have to make moves this summer. They pretty much got no production from 2 of their starters. The bench other than Craw was terrible I still cant believe we signed Mario when guys like Stack and Von Wafer were available. Its time for Sund to earn his money but I don’t know if he is savvy enough to make great deals. The Craw move was great but other than that its been ehhhh.
Blackbuster
May 11th, 2010
12:04 am
I really think that management needs to have its primary focus on obtaining a quick, defensive point guard, who is not an offensive liability. Honestly, that has been the single biggest problem in our defense all season long. One of the reasons we have to rely on switching so often is due to the fact that Bibby cannot guard quick, talented PGs well at this stage of his career. That results in weak perimeter defense which causes our Bigs like Al Horford to have to switch out onto perimeter guys and leave the basket , which hurts the interior defense as well, and hurts us greatly in terms of rebounding since Horford is an excellent rebounder and interior defender, and bringing him out to the perimeter on defense nullifies that partially. If you have a strong defense, you always give yourself a chance to win and rarely get blown out. Take Charlotte for instance, they are an excellent defensive team with a defensive-minded coach. They were able to hold Orlando to depleted scoring during their series. The only achilles heal for Charlotte was their inability to score, or lack of offense. Atlanta definitely has a superior offense. Also, the lack of offense is another reason why we can’t pick up a starting PG who is an offensive liability since that will result on a much weaker offense as it will result in more double teams and greater attention on our potent scorers.
Richie Rich
May 11th, 2010
12:08 am
to the guy’s wondering about my comments about the free ticket i was trying to give away, i had 2 of them, 1 for me and another for anybody else that wanted to go for free….all you had to do was show up…like i said earlier, the seats were great..section 112 row n right behind the magic bench….it’s pretty bad when u can’t even give away a free playoff ticket!
Byron
May 11th, 2010
12:12 am
You know who else might be a cheap pick-up to bolster the bench and is unlikely to get resigned? Roger Mason Jr. He’s improved defensively with the Spurs and is a solid spot-up shooter.
Just thought I’d throw that out there.
bigdave
May 11th, 2010
12:21 am
someone mention Billy Knight and drafting players? listen to the Wes Durham interview:
http://www.790thezone.com/instantreplay/Episodes.aspx?PID=1345
Najeh Davenpoop
May 11th, 2010
12:30 am
Look at the Jazz scrapping and fighting until the end.
The talent difference between the Jazz and Lakers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the talent difference between the Hawks and Magic.
doc
May 11th, 2010
12:32 am
ROFL @ ROD on woodyspeak.
Greg
May 11th, 2010
12:32 am
The Jazz have real leaders in Jerry Sloan and Deron Williams. They will never quit because of that.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 11th, 2010
12:34 am
LMAO @ the 790 the Zone people clowning on Billy Knight…
omar
May 11th, 2010
12:40 am
Bye Woody, Bye JJ
2011 Hawks Roster
May 11th, 2010
12:40 am
PG Steve Blake/Rafer Alston
SG John Salmons/Jamal Crawford
SF Chris Bosh/Josh Smith
PF Al Horford/Udonis Haslem
C David Lee/Brad Miller
rusty
May 11th, 2010
1:03 am
jj can you please take northcyde with you
rusty
May 11th, 2010
1:06 am
northcyde
be serious, do you think rose,wade or lebron woud let jj dribble for 20secs at a time & take bad shots,be real man
AceDawg
May 11th, 2010
1:32 pm
Joe Johnson, and Jamal Crawford, were letdowns in the end. Definitely the lack of ball movement on offensive and movement without the ball on defense were evident. Vince Carter is solid, but he dribbles by one guy at the three point line and steams in for a dunk muliple times? C’mon. And Orlando was always open for 3’s, the main reason they sunk so many. I had Woodson’s back as the Hawks got better, but this year they took a step back in the playoffs from the year before, and its time to shake things up and see if a coach with more offensive prowess can step in.
Also, Mike Bibby might not even be able to guard me! He’s slow and such a liability at this point. Frankly, Teague should have been playing more because he seems better at assisting and defending.
Jamal Crawford doesn’t play much D either.
I give Horford and Josh Smith passing grades for playing hard if nothing else.
sam'l
May 11th, 2010
2:44 pm
Tom Thibadeau………..Boston defensive coach
Has experience……knows how to put together unshakable defense
let him hire his offensive coordinator
timbo
May 13th, 2010
5:56 pm
It take talent to get talent. I say, give New orleans a call and dangle Jsmoove for either, CP3 or Collison