Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 2: J.J. is All-NBA but is he fading away?

J.J. can't find his groove.

J.J. can't find his groove.

ORLANDO–A reminder that J.J. is considered to be among the best players in the league, at least by media types: He was named to the All-NBA Third Team, the league announced today. It’s the first time for J.J. and the first time the Hawks have had a player selected since Dikembe in 97-98.

The timing is interesting since J.J. is slumping in the playoffs. He’s not the only one, of course, but he’s the lead dog. Before the playoffs opened, J.J. said he knew that as the Hawks’ veteran star he would take the heat if they don’t meet expectations or get the glory if they make a breakthrough. He said he embraced that role. Now, though, both J.J. and Woody seem to want to avoid putting the onus on him to deliver a big game when the Hawks need it most.

Looking at the other guys on the All-NBA teams, all of them except maybe Bogut would be looked at to be The Man for their team in trying times. J.J. needs help–more from fellow All-Star Horford, second-team All-Defense Smoove, Sixth Man of the Year Jamal and Woody. But if the Hawks’ All-NBA star doesn’t come through it’s hard to see them making this a series. It also could end up costing him in free agency.

– You have to be an Insider to read it, but ESPN.com’s John Hollinger makes a case that Iso-heavy offenses like the Hawks and Blazers run are good for the regular season, not so good for the playoffs.

Atlanta, as the league’s third-best offense, should at least be able to battle these defenses [Milwaukee and Orlando] to a draw. But even before Tuesday’s Game 1 implosion against Orlando, they were struggling. The Hawks can’t make shots, ranking just 14th out of 16 teams in postseason TS percentage. While they’ve still been able to generate second shots (they lead all teams in playoff Offensive Rebound Rate) and have been somewhat successful at avoiding turnovers, the net result put the Hawks 11th among the 16 playoff teams in postseason Offensive Efficiency.

So what is it? Perhaps the Hawks and Blazers have just had some bad games against some pretty good defenses. But between the two, we’ve built up a 31-game sample showing that something more nefarious might be at work.

Obviously, this has important implications for Atlanta’s Game 2 in Orlando on Thursday. Iso-Joe has had its moments; Game 4 of the 2008 Boston series, for instance, when Johnson single-handedly tore apart one of the best defensive teams in history. But in the aggregate, its failures have been far greater than its successes, and it’s notable that the most similar offensive team has faced similar troubles.

Is there something about iso-heavy offenses that makes them vulnerable in the playoffs? We can’t say it with certainty yet, but the case is building rapidly. The Hawks have three games left to show that Iso-Joe can be as effective in May as it is between November and April.

– In Game 1, the Hawks ran two isolation plays in the first quarter, one for Bibby (miss) and one for J.J. (a make, but it came just after a steal and Orlando’s defense hadn’t yet set). They ran four isos in that awful second quarter: Marvin (miss), Zaza (miss), J.J. (miss) and Jamal (miss). Of those six plays, all but two were long, challenged jump shots: Marvin got his layup blocked by Dwight Howard and Jamal missed on a runner near the end of the half.

– I covered Stan Van Gundy so this doesn’t surprise me. The guy is fanatical about not letting his team slip. And the Magic are aware of what happened against ‘Nique’s Celtics in ‘95. Still, I keep wondering what lesson there is to learn from a series they ended up winning, anyway.

– Slam Online ranks the Euroleague players and puts Childress at No. 5.

MC

815 comments Add your comment

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:25 pm

they attack our deficiencies.. why not go @ theirs?

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:27 pm

beats sitting around shooting jumpers.. those jumpers arent going to be good looks unless you commit yourself to attacking inside. just like in football, you run the ball to set up the pass…

O'Brien

May 6th, 2010
8:27 pm

Wabe,

A better big lineup is ZaZa, Horford and Josh.

Hawks seemed to have weathered the first storm. Come on Hawks. Keep it coming…

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:27 pm

I haven’t forgotten that the Hawks were tied at 27 in the 2nd quarter yesterday, but I think they are playing a little smarter today than they did on Tuesday, at least on offense. They are definitely not playing as scared of Howard as they did in Game 1. Exploit the Josh-Lewis matchup, share the ball, drive inside, draw fouls, and don’t settle for jumpers. That’s how they have played for most of this quarter, and that’s the way they need to continue playing.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:27 pm

Man Patrick Ewing head is enormous

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:28 pm

Defense definitely has to pick up though. Even there, the Hawks are playing with heart, but they are getting burned by switching.

NUNNA!!

May 6th, 2010
8:28 pm

randmo is activated,but they deactivate mario west..
why?? this whole team needs to be dressed

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:28 pm

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:29 pm

Bibby was lucky Pietrus didnt launch a 3, he was so far away

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:30 pm

Dang, this dude hittin FT’s

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:30 pm

Josh sets up Marvin with a wide open rhythm jumper, which Marvin bricks. Now THERE’S where you can say the Hawks just “need to knock down shots”. In that case the scheme worked fine, but the execution wasn’t there from Marvin.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:31 pm

Randmo should do a Tonya Harding on Dwight LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:31 pm

With all the problems with Hack-a-Dwight, here’s the biggest one — Dwight’s making them.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:31 pm

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:32 pm

Bad Call, cmon man

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:32 pm

You gotta be kidding me. The Hawks have a hard enough time hanging around without having to play 5-on-8.

JSS

May 6th, 2010
8:32 pm

Damn Cheesburger!!!

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:32 pm

Refs makin up for the bad calls he got last series

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:33 pm

Don’t disregard how on that last possession, even with it being a busted play, Josh was the willing passer making the assist for the 3-pointer by Joe.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:33 pm

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:33 pm

refs rigging

O'Brien

May 6th, 2010
8:33 pm

So far, this is the JJ we have been wating for. he will have to keep hitting those shots.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:33 pm

Give me a f-cking break. Refs as biased in this game as I’ve seen them this entire season in any Hawks game.

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:33 pm

3 fouls on Dwight.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:34 pm

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:34 pm

good job Jason

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:34 pm

This is why i hat watchin Magic or Cavs play because Refs give them everything

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:34 pm

Howard is 6/8 from the free throw line.

sam'l

May 6th, 2010
8:35 pm

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Dwight Howard just foul Collins twice and get away with it?

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 6th, 2010
8:35 pm

refs ridin D12’s n#tz

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:35 pm

why are you even playing a guy who hasnt played in mths..?

JSS

May 6th, 2010
8:35 pm

Augh!!! REBOUND

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:35 pm

DRIVE TO THE BASKET, MAKE HIM FOUL YOU, IF HE BLOCKS IT SO BE IT, BUT TAKE IT TO HIS A$$

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
8:36 pm

I like our energy for the most part.

I’m sick already of Dwight Howard enjoying the benefit of star-struck refs. It’s disgusting.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:36 pm

Thanks for sticking up for the Hawks Hubie. I hate blaming the refs, always, but those were two offensive fouls as blatant as can be.

NUNNA!!

May 6th, 2010
8:36 pm

make dwight play defense,and go down low to randmo..out of the 3 reserves on the roster he has the best offensive talent

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:37 pm

Giving up offensive boards to Howard — understandable. Giving up offensive boards to Pietrus — inexcusable.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:37 pm

Well this game is over Howard can’t be stopped

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:38 pm

Randmo just grab em, YOU WILL NOT GET A CALL LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:38 pm

Wow, the Braves are getting no-hit AGAIN…

sam'l

May 6th, 2010
8:38 pm

And the tv announcers are calling him superman and talking about his fabulous quarter…….Hawks should protest any loss officially even if to call attention to the tape on this farce

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:39 pm

you playing a guy you havent developed all year and ask him to defend an all world center.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:39 pm

Not bad, only down by five despite Howard goin off (Thanks to Refs)

JSS

May 6th, 2010
8:39 pm

Way to REBOUND Duck!!! Could have been worse!

steven

May 6th, 2010
8:39 pm

playing Morris in this situation is about as dumb as you can get Woody. He hasn’t played all year and you expect him to guard Howard??

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
8:40 pm

ESPN crew has finally given up calling the refs on their BS, and is now just gushing over Howard.

Maybe somebody sent a script to them…probably came from Stern’s office….

“Guys, give it the f#ck up, we’re not going to call Howard for sh!t, so start calling him Superman. Come on, just go with this.”

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:40 pm

The chances that Dwight continues hitting his hook shots and free throws is pretty unlikely. Down by 5, scoring points with some level of regularity, and the Magic shooters are not really in rhythm yet — I actually like the game plan and the energy so far. Hawks big guys just need to do a better job keeping their bodies between Howard and the hoop, refs need to call a fair game, and they need to continue sharing the ball and getting it to Smoove in the post.

sleepy

May 6th, 2010
8:41 pm

We just need to keep playing because I dont think Howard can play the whole game at this pace. This is what we want the rest of the guys standing around watching Howard. We just need to gang rebound.

Aaron

May 6th, 2010
8:41 pm

The Hawks look pretty solid so far. They’re hanging tough even with the garbage officiating. Even Hubie Brown agreed that Howard should have two offensive fouls already, but what goes around comes around…

drmaryb

May 6th, 2010
8:41 pm

Hawks playing 5 on 8 – (the refs too!)