Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 2: J.J. is All-NBA but is he fading away?

J.J. can't find his groove.

J.J. can't find his groove.

ORLANDO–A reminder that J.J. is considered to be among the best players in the league, at least by media types: He was named to the All-NBA Third Team, the league announced today. It’s the first time for J.J. and the first time the Hawks have had a player selected since Dikembe in 97-98.

The timing is interesting since J.J. is slumping in the playoffs. He’s not the only one, of course, but he’s the lead dog. Before the playoffs opened, J.J. said he knew that as the Hawks’ veteran star he would take the heat if they don’t meet expectations or get the glory if they make a breakthrough. He said he embraced that role. Now, though, both J.J. and Woody seem to want to avoid putting the onus on him to deliver a big game when the Hawks need it most.

Looking at the other guys on the All-NBA teams, all of them except maybe Bogut would be looked at to be The Man for their team in trying times. J.J. needs help–more from fellow All-Star Horford, second-team All-Defense Smoove, Sixth Man of the Year Jamal and Woody. But if the Hawks’ All-NBA star doesn’t come through it’s hard to see them making this a series. It also could end up costing him in free agency.

– You have to be an Insider to read it, but ESPN.com’s John Hollinger makes a case that Iso-heavy offenses like the Hawks and Blazers run are good for the regular season, not so good for the playoffs.

Atlanta, as the league’s third-best offense, should at least be able to battle these defenses [Milwaukee and Orlando] to a draw. But even before Tuesday’s Game 1 implosion against Orlando, they were struggling. The Hawks can’t make shots, ranking just 14th out of 16 teams in postseason TS percentage. While they’ve still been able to generate second shots (they lead all teams in playoff Offensive Rebound Rate) and have been somewhat successful at avoiding turnovers, the net result put the Hawks 11th among the 16 playoff teams in postseason Offensive Efficiency.

So what is it? Perhaps the Hawks and Blazers have just had some bad games against some pretty good defenses. But between the two, we’ve built up a 31-game sample showing that something more nefarious might be at work.

Obviously, this has important implications for Atlanta’s Game 2 in Orlando on Thursday. Iso-Joe has had its moments; Game 4 of the 2008 Boston series, for instance, when Johnson single-handedly tore apart one of the best defensive teams in history. But in the aggregate, its failures have been far greater than its successes, and it’s notable that the most similar offensive team has faced similar troubles.

Is there something about iso-heavy offenses that makes them vulnerable in the playoffs? We can’t say it with certainty yet, but the case is building rapidly. The Hawks have three games left to show that Iso-Joe can be as effective in May as it is between November and April.

– In Game 1, the Hawks ran two isolation plays in the first quarter, one for Bibby (miss) and one for J.J. (a make, but it came just after a steal and Orlando’s defense hadn’t yet set). They ran four isos in that awful second quarter: Marvin (miss), Zaza (miss), J.J. (miss) and Jamal (miss). Of those six plays, all but two were long, challenged jump shots: Marvin got his layup blocked by Dwight Howard and Jamal missed on a runner near the end of the half.

– I covered Stan Van Gundy so this doesn’t surprise me. The guy is fanatical about not letting his team slip. And the Magic are aware of what happened against ‘Nique’s Celtics in ‘95. Still, I keep wondering what lesson there is to learn from a series they ended up winning, anyway.

– Slam Online ranks the Euroleague players and puts Childress at No. 5.

MC

815 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:10 pm

On the bright side, Hawks are actually moving the ball pretty well so far.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:11 pm

That should have been a FOUL!

WHY???

May 6th, 2010
8:11 pm

great finish, shoulda been an and 1

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:11 pm

AND1111111111111!

WHY???

May 6th, 2010
8:11 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:12 pm

Defensively the Hawks look lost.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:12 pm

The 3s begin lol

WHY???

May 6th, 2010
8:12 pm

just weather the 1st qtr storm

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:13 pm

it always seems like the other team has 2 extra players.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:13 pm

Woodys Plan B is to try harder at Plan A

LOL

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:13 pm

Najeh its because they are lost.. its overly complicated.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:16 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:16 pm

Rashard Lewis posts up Bibby out of the timeout. Fantastic.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:16 pm

Movin screen on Dwight

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:17 pm

switching getting us killed again.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:17 pm

LOL Bibby sucks bad

Blast

May 6th, 2010
8:17 pm

They keep leaving Lewis alone, and he continues to burn them.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:17 pm

Bibby shoulda jumped into him once he was in the air

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:17 pm

Another wide open 3 for Lewis. This is all being caused by Jameer Nelson doing whatever he wants to do. Bibby has GOT to go.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:18 pm

man these guys are n the Hawks head so much

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:18 pm

Thank you for driving and picking up the foul against the zone, Marvin.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:19 pm

The hawks should just try to lose by less than 30 becuz they are not gonna win playing like this.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:19 pm

Put Teague in, its not like Bibby is scoring, he has the speed to play nelson

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:19 pm

Neither one of those drives — Marvin or Joe — was a particularly good one, but both were able to draw fouls. Good things happen when you go inside.

O'Brien

May 6th, 2010
8:19 pm

Its not all Woody’s fault. I just dont know if mentally, the players believe they can beat Orlando in Orlando (regardless of what they say)…

Hopefully they will find the intestinal fortitude to come out of Orlando with a win tonight.

Let’s go Hawks.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:20 pm

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@Bibby

sleepy

May 6th, 2010
8:20 pm

Al needs to come out right now if you are not gonna battle Dwight for that position he is gonna kill us . You cant let him post that deep in the lane FIGHT HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:21 pm

Driving to the basket scared too worried about Howard, gotta go at him, make him foul you

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:22 pm

The hawks have a defeated look on their faces.

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:22 pm

every time we switch they get a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open shot..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:22 pm

Joe is making a concerted effort to get inside and is actually getting half-decent looks at those floaters. He’s gotta start hitting those.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:22 pm

in Al’s defense, he just isnt big or strong enough against Dwight, hardly anyone is

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:22 pm

Man Zaza is just terrible

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:23 pm

Great Zsa Zsa

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:23 pm

Hubie is right. The Hawks can’t play scared of Howard like they did in Game 1. Defend him straight up like you would anyone else and tip your hat when he scores.

Nice flop Zaza.

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
8:23 pm

I was never for this before, but why not go big?

Zaza, Horford, Smith?

Maybe that’ll get Orlando to get a shooter off the floor. They’ll get Gortat into the lineup.

Sound dumb? Worth a shot…

Anythings worth a shot at this point.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:23 pm

He may be terrible, just need him to get another foul on Dwight

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:23 pm

all day long.

Old Hawk Fan

May 6th, 2010
8:23 pm

Za Za can’t guard my 9 mo old Grand Baby…………………..LMAO!

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:24 pm

THERE’s what I’m talking about. Josh on Rashard Lewis is a very good matchup for ATL. Lewis is not a great defender and Josh can take his azz every time. Run the offense through Josh, let him either take Lewis inside or set up a perimeter player with a pass. He’s probably the only Hawk with a good matchup in this series.

JSS

May 6th, 2010
8:24 pm

Rock the Rack J-Smoove

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:24 pm

DAMN, Marvin?

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:24 pm

Damn duck with an aggressive move

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
8:24 pm

THERE YOU GO MARVIN!

FLY DUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
8:24 pm

F IN RIGHT!!!!! LETS GO!

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
8:25 pm

As overmatched as they have looked at times, the Hawks are playing with heart. Only down 2 and taking the ball fearlessly to the hoop. Dwight looks scared to foul, and three different Hawks have taken advantage in these last few minutes.

Melvin

May 6th, 2010
8:25 pm

LOL, Marvin look like he was about to sprain his ankle on that dunk…

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
8:25 pm

At least thje hawks aren’t relying on jumpers

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
8:25 pm

So far so good

Old Hawk Fan

May 6th, 2010
8:25 pm

How will the Second Quarter go IS DA KEY! What will be the half time SCORE!